Re: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-03 Thread Bill Humphries
David, do you think the antivirus aspect of it is a real benefit?  Like 
you know it helps stop baddies?  This client uses Trend and it has been 
less than effective at stopping some trojans lately.  Wiping and 
starting over with a machine with serveral LOB apps and 4 or 5 versions 
of quickbooks installed is not something I or the client like doing.


Thanks.

Bill

David Mazzaccaro wrote:
iPrism 
Extremely low admin/maint time.

Can be a big pill to swallow up front, though they will work with you on
pricing.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:26 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web content filtering in the SMB

Hey guys,

I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They

use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the 
firewall.  It looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 
for this feature for a 25 person office.  Do you think that money could 
be spent elsewhere with another filtering product to get better ROI?


Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block 
employees from the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps 
avoid malware and I don't think the SW content filtering does a thing to


help avoid malware.  Do you have any other suggestions that are in the 
same ballpark and are low maintenance/administration time?


Thanks.

bill

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Re: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-03 Thread Jonathan Link
Is the user running as admin, and what are the versins of QB?

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

 David, do you think the antivirus aspect of it is a real benefit?  Like you
 know it helps stop baddies?  This client uses Trend and it has been less
 than effective at stopping some trojans lately.  Wiping and starting over
 with a machine with serveral LOB apps and 4 or 5 versions of quickbooks
 installed is not something I or the client like doing.

 Thanks.

 Bill

 David Mazzaccaro wrote:

 iPrism Extremely low admin/maint time.
 Can be a big pill to swallow up front, though they will work with you on
 pricing.


  -Original Message-
 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday,
 February 01, 2011 4:26 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: web content filtering in the SMB

 Hey guys,

 I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They

 use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the firewall.
  It looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 for this feature
 for a 25 person office.  Do you think that money could be spent elsewhere
 with another filtering product to get better ROI?

 Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block employees
 from the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps avoid malware and
 I don't think the SW content filtering does a thing to

 help avoid malware.  Do you have any other suggestions that are in the
 same ballpark and are low maintenance/administration time?

 Thanks.

 bill

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Re: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-03 Thread Bill Humphries
It's a CPA firm so they have 10 years of various QB installed on various 
machines.  And yes everyone runs as local admin at this client with all 
XP workstations.

Bill

 AsJonathan Link wrote:
 Is the user running as admin, and what are the versins of QB?

 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com 
 mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

 David, do you think the antivirus aspect of it is a real benefit?
  Like you know it helps stop baddies?  This client uses Trend and
 it has been less than effective at stopping some trojans lately.
  Wiping and starting over with a machine with serveral LOB apps
 and 4 or 5 versions of quickbooks installed is not something I or
 the client like doing.

 Thanks.

 Bill

 David Mazzaccaro wrote:

 iPrism Extremely low admin/maint time.
 Can be a big pill to swallow up front, though they will work
 with you on
 pricing.


 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com
 mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01,
 2011 4:26 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: web content filtering in the SMB

 Hey guys,

 I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a
 client.  They

 use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the
 firewall.  It looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping
 $1,000 for this feature for a 25 person office.  Do you think
 that money could be spent elsewhere with another filtering
 product to get better ROI?

 Really, they just think they need to have this in place to
 block employees from the seedy places.  I would like a
 solution that helps avoid malware and I don't think the SW
 content filtering does a thing to

 help avoid malware.  Do you have any other suggestions that
 are in the same ballpark and are low
 maintenance/administration time?

 Thanks.

 bill

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RE: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-03 Thread Stringham, Steven
Take a look at Fortinet. The fortiguard 50c or 60c should do good here.


From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: web content filtering in the SMB

It's a CPA firm so they have 10 years of various QB installed on various 
machines.  And yes everyone runs as local admin at this client with all XP 
workstations.

Bill

 AsJonathan Link wrote:
Is the user running as admin, and what are the versins of QB?

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Bill Humphries 
nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:
David, do you think the antivirus aspect of it is a real benefit?  Like you 
know it helps stop baddies?  This client uses Trend and it has been less than 
effective at stopping some trojans lately.  Wiping and starting over with a 
machine with serveral LOB apps and 4 or 5 versions of quickbooks installed is 
not something I or the client like doing.

Thanks.

Bill

David Mazzaccaro wrote:
iPrism Extremely low admin/maint time.
Can be a big pill to swallow up front, though they will work with you on
pricing.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries 
[mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, 
February 01, 2011 4:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web content filtering in the SMB

Hey guys,

I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They

use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the firewall.  It 
looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 for this feature for a 
25 person office.  Do you think that money could be spent elsewhere with 
another filtering product to get better ROI?

Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block employees from 
the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps avoid malware and I don't 
think the SW content filtering does a thing to

help avoid malware.  Do you have any other suggestions that are in the same 
ballpark and are low maintenance/administration time?

Thanks.

bill

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RE: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-02 Thread Sean Rector
We're using OpenDNS - the free edition blocks the content quite well,
and the other editions have some nice features.  If you want reports of
who/which computer is trying to access inappropriate content, you'll
need to look elsewhere though.

Sean Rector, MCSE

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web content filtering in the SMB

Hey guys,

I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They

use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the 
firewall.  It looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 
for this feature for a 25 person office.  Do you think that money could 
be spent elsewhere with another filtering product to get better ROI?

Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block 
employees from the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps 
avoid malware and I don't think the SW content filtering does a thing to

help avoid malware.  Do you have any other suggestions that are in the 
same ballpark and are low maintenance/administration time?

Thanks.

bill

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RE: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-01 Thread David Mazzaccaro
iPrism 
Extremely low admin/maint time.
Can be a big pill to swallow up front, though they will work with you on
pricing.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web content filtering in the SMB

Hey guys,

I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They

use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the 
firewall.  It looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 
for this feature for a 25 person office.  Do you think that money could 
be spent elsewhere with another filtering product to get better ROI?

Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block 
employees from the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps 
avoid malware and I don't think the SW content filtering does a thing to

help avoid malware.  Do you have any other suggestions that are in the 
same ballpark and are low maintenance/administration time?

Thanks.

bill

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Re: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-01 Thread Richard Stovall
What model SonicWall do you have?

You will also get malware protection on the SonicWall if you purchase a
bundle that has content filtering and gateway AV protection.  Have you had a
look at www.firewalls.com  (
http://www.firewalls.com/sonicwall/sonicwall-firewall/sonicwall-nsa-series/sonicwall-nsa-240)
 An NSA 240 bundle with all the UTM/CFS/IPS addons included only runs $1,391
for a year, and subscription renewals look to start at $582 for 1 year.

We have a couple of these in a failover pair and they work fine.  The CFS
stuff isn't very granular, and the concept of allowing users to manually
override filtering for a short period of time isn't something that SonicWall
seems to have considered, but we worked around the limitations successfully.


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

 Hey guys,

 I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They
 use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the firewall.  It
 looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 for this feature for
 a 25 person office.  Do you think that money could be spent elsewhere with
 another filtering product to get better ROI?

 Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block employees
 from the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps avoid malware and
 I don't think the SW content filtering does a thing to help avoid malware.
  Do you have any other suggestions that are in the same ballpark and are low
 maintenance/administration time?

 Thanks.

 bill

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RE: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-01 Thread James Hill
I’m a big fan of WebMarshal.  Out of the box settings are good and it’s highly 
configurable and very easy to use.  You can plug in a bunch of different 
AV/Malware scanners.

http://www.m86security.com/products/web_security/webmarshal.asp  Give the free 
trial a go.

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 7:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: web content filtering in the SMB

What model SonicWall do you have?

You will also get malware protection on the SonicWall if you purchase a bundle 
that has content filtering and gateway AV protection.  Have you had a look at 
www.firewalls.comhttp://www.firewalls.com  
(http://www.firewalls.com/sonicwall/sonicwall-firewall/sonicwall-nsa-series/sonicwall-nsa-240)
  An NSA 240 bundle with all the UTM/CFS/IPS addons included only runs $1,391 
for a year, and subscription renewals look to start at $582 for 1 year.

We have a couple of these in a failover pair and they work fine.  The CFS stuff 
isn't very granular, and the concept of allowing users to manually override 
filtering for a short period of time isn't something that SonicWall seems to 
have considered, but we worked around the limitations successfully.


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Bill Humphries 
nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:
Hey guys,

I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They use 
the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the firewall.  It looks 
like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 for this feature for a 25 
person office.  Do you think that money could be spent elsewhere with another 
filtering product to get better ROI?

Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block employees from 
the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps avoid malware and I don't 
think the SW content filtering does a thing to help avoid malware.  Do you have 
any other suggestions that are in the same ballpark and are low 
maintenance/administration time?

Thanks.

bill

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Re: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-01 Thread Bill Humphries

It's a 2040.

Richard Stovall wrote:

What model SonicWall do you have?

You will also get malware protection on the SonicWall if you purchase 
a bundle that has content filtering and gateway AV protection.  Have 
you had a look at www.firewalls.com http://www.firewalls.com 
 (http://www.firewalls.com/sonicwall/sonicwall-firewall/sonicwall-nsa-series/sonicwall-nsa-240) 
 An NSA 240 bundle with all the UTM/CFS/IPS addons included only runs 
$1,391 for a year, and subscription renewals look to start at $582 for 
1 year.


We have a couple of these in a failover pair and they work fine.  The 
CFS stuff isn't very granular, and the concept of allowing users to 
manually override filtering for a short period of time isn't something 
that SonicWall seems to have considered, but we worked around the 
limitations successfully.


 
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:


Hey guys,

I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.
 They use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into
the firewall.  It looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping
$1,000 for this feature for a 25 person office.  Do you think that
money could be spent elsewhere with another filtering product to
get better ROI?

Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block
employees from the seedy places.  I would like a solution that
helps avoid malware and I don't think the SW content filtering
does a thing to help avoid malware.  Do you have any other
suggestions that are in the same ballpark and are low
maintenance/administration time?

Thanks.

bill

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RE: web content filtering in the SMB

2011-02-01 Thread Alex Eckelberry
I’m biased, but:

http://www.gfi.com/internet-monitoring-software


From: James Hill [mailto:james.h...@superamart.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: web content filtering in the SMB

I’m a big fan of WebMarshal.  Out of the box settings are good and it’s highly 
configurable and very easy to use.  You can plug in a bunch of different 
AV/Malware scanners.

http://www.m86security.com/products/web_security/webmarshal.asp  Give the free 
trial a go.

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 7:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: web content filtering in the SMB

What model SonicWall do you have?

You will also get malware protection on the SonicWall if you purchase a bundle 
that has content filtering and gateway AV protection.  Have you had a look at 
www.firewalls.comhttp://www.firewalls.com  
(http://www.firewalls.com/sonicwall/sonicwall-firewall/sonicwall-nsa-series/sonicwall-nsa-240)
  An NSA 240 bundle with all the UTM/CFS/IPS addons included only runs $1,391 
for a year, and subscription renewals look to start at $582 for 1 year.

We have a couple of these in a failover pair and they work fine.  The CFS stuff 
isn't very granular, and the concept of allowing users to manually override 
filtering for a short period of time isn't something that SonicWall seems to 
have considered, but we worked around the limitations successfully.


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Bill Humphries 
nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:
Hey guys,

I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client.  They use 
the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the firewall.  It looks 
like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 for this feature for a 25 
person office.  Do you think that money could be spent elsewhere with another 
filtering product to get better ROI?

Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block employees from 
the seedy places.  I would like a solution that helps avoid malware and I don't 
think the SW content filtering does a thing to help avoid malware.  Do you have 
any other suggestions that are in the same ballpark and are low 
maintenance/administration time?

Thanks.

bill

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