RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
We disabled ours too but... Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet. This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week :) -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird -Original Message- From: Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but... Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet. This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week :) -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
It does when its old From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird From: Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but… “Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use”, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. “A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet.” This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week ☺ -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.commailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens
RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
And now they think we are going to trust them with our passwords? http://betanews.com/2012/01/31/symantec-launches-norton-identity-safe-as-sta ndalone-beta-app/ From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird _ From: Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but. Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article /225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet. This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week J -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20 Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
Ahh, might we see a resurgence of Norton branding now? On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: And now they think we are going to trust them with our passwords? ** ** http://betanews.com/2012/01/31/symantec-launches-norton-identity-safe-as-standalone-beta-app/ ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird -- *From: *Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com *Date: *Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** We disabled ours too but… * * *“Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use”, Tuesday, 1/31/2012* http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ ** ** Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. ** ** *“A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet.”* ** ** This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week J ** ** -- *Joe Louis* ** ** *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** Zing! ** ** My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi ** ** On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 ** ** On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission.* *In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. * *We take no responsibility for non
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
They kept a lot of corporate customers a couple years ago when they released a bad definition file that borked computers (they wouldn't boot after receiving the definition file update.) They then gave corporate customers either a year or a couple of years of free upgrades. I wonder if they can buy their way back from this one. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: And now they think we are going to trust them with our passwords? ** ** http://betanews.com/2012/01/31/symantec-launches-norton-identity-safe-as-standalone-beta-app/ ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird -- *From: *Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com *Date: *Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** We disabled ours too but… * * *“Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use”, Tuesday, 1/31/2012* http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ ** ** Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. ** ** *“A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet.”* ** ** This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week J ** ** -- *Joe Louis* ** ** *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** Zing! ** ** My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi ** ** On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 ** ** On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission.* *In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach
RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
I wouldn't hold a bad definition against them, though. Vipre, TrendMicro and McAfee have all done that. From: cynicalg...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:19:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com They kept a lot of corporate customers a couple years ago when they released a bad definition file that borked computers (they wouldn't boot after receiving the definition file update.) They then gave corporate customers either a year or a couple of years of free upgrades. I wonder if they can buy their way back from this one. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: And now they think we are going to trust them with our passwords? http://betanews.com/2012/01/31/symantec-launches-norton-identity-safe-as-standalone-beta-app/ From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware?Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird From: Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but… “Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use”, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. “A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet.” This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week J -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit
RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
I wouldn't hold a bad definition against them, though. Vipre, TrendMicro and McAfee have all done that. From: cynicalg...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:19:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com They kept a lot of corporate customers a couple years ago when they released a bad definition file that borked computers (they wouldn't boot after receiving the definition file update.) They then gave corporate customers either a year or a couple of years of free upgrades. I wonder if they can buy their way back from this one. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: And now they think we are going to trust them with our passwords? http://betanews.com/2012/01/31/symantec-launches-norton-identity-safe-as-standalone-beta-app/ From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware?Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird From: Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but… “Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use”, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. “A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet.” This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week J -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit
RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
True, but Symantec handled it very poorly. From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. I wouldn't hold a bad definition against them, though. Vipre, TrendMicro and McAfee have all done that. _ From: cynicalg...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:19:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com They kept a lot of corporate customers a couple years ago when they released a bad definition file that borked computers (they wouldn't boot after receiving the definition file update.) They then gave corporate customers either a year or a couple of years of free upgrades. I wonder if they can buy their way back from this one. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: And now they think we are going to trust them with our passwords? http://betanews.com/2012/01/31/symantec-launches-norton-identity-safe-as-sta ndalone-beta-app/ From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird _ From: Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but. Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use, Tuesday, 1/31/2012 http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article /225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet. This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week J -- Joe Louis From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20 Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
Vipre was very proactive in it's handling of theirs if memory serves me on this they are the only ones I have seen in recent years that actually will admit to not being perfect but then I am getting old and the brain is failing. Jon On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: True, but Symantec handled it very poorly. ** ** *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:48 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** I wouldn't hold a bad definition against them, though. Vipre, TrendMicro and McAfee have all done that. -- From: cynicalg...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:19:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com They kept a lot of corporate customers a couple years ago when they released a bad definition file that borked computers (they wouldn't boot after receiving the definition file update.) They then gave corporate customers either a year or a couple of years of free upgrades. I wonder if they can buy their way back from this one. On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: And now they think we are going to trust them with our passwords? http://betanews.com/2012/01/31/symantec-launches-norton-identity-safe-as-standalone-beta-app/ *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. ** ** Didn't they also claim that SEP caught malware? Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird -- *From: *Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.com *Date: *Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:21:19 -0500 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. We disabled ours too but… * * *“Symantec declares pcAnywhere safe to use”, Tuesday, 1/31/2012* http://www.scmagazineuk.com/symantec-declares-pcanywhere-safe-to-use/article/225425/ Looks like they are offering free upgrades; even if you have a no-longer-supported version. *“A scan for exposed systems running pcAnywhere found that tens of thousands of installations that could be attacked through unpatched vulnerabilities in the software because they directly communicate with the internet.”* This might explain an uptick in PSA ports that were being probed last week J -- *Joe Louis* *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 4:34 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF.
Zing! My co automagically disabled it on all of our clients whether they like it or not. -- Espi On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I think ASB posted about it yesterday or the day before. You might see the post next week :-) Sorry, cheap shot :-0 On 27 January 2012 18:16, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.comwrote: * Run pcAnywhere? TURN IT OFF. You may not have seen this, but Symantec has advised all its users of pcAnywhere to literally turn it off, and wait for security patches. It's old code and it was stolen in 200g and was not updated much. There are several vulnerabilities in encoding and encryption. Here is the white paper with their recommendations: http://www.symantec.com/connect/sites/default/files/pcAnywhere%20Security%20Recommendations%20WP_01_23_Final.pdf Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
