Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-29 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes I meant DL, anyhow I got a new drive pulled the old one and hot-swapped
the new drive it rebuilt in less than 1 hour, back up with no problems,
thanks for all the suggestions.

Stefan



On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Louis, Joe jlo...@guardianalarm.comwrote:

  Did you mean DL instead of GL? I’ve been using DL 380s since G1. Most of
 the Proliants are similar. Cant say that I’ve ever seen one where the RAID
 0+1 is in a box that doesn’t support hot swappable drives. It “should” be as
 simple as pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You
 shouldn’t have to bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the
 Hot-swappable parts have purple handles.



 The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured
 and you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is
 going bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have
 a red fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event
 log will show degrading status entries.



 They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for
 good reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I’ve used drives for years
 after first identified with an alert.



 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.

 Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in
 and the raid controller should automatically rebuild.

 No down time.



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me
 that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!

 I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down
 and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut
 down replace the drive and re-start?

 -

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Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-28 Thread Erik Goldoff
AND worth checking for firmware updates for the drives and controller

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

  +1



 We’ve also re-scanned arrays (on HP, specifically) and seen the array come
 back as healthy with no errors – and run that way for years after the fact.
 Joe is right. It may be a false alarm.



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 *From:* Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:59 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 Did you mean DL instead of GL? I’ve been using DL 380s since G1. Most of
 the Proliants are similar. Cant say that I’ve ever seen one where the RAID
 0+1 is in a box that doesn’t support hot swappable drives. It “should” be as
 simple as pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You
 shouldn’t have to bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the
 Hot-swappable parts have purple handles.



 The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured
 and you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is
 going bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have
 a red fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event
 log will show degrading status entries.



 They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for
 good reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I’ve used drives for years
 after first identified with an alert.



 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.

 Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in
 and the raid controller should automatically rebuild.

 No down time.



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me
 that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!

 I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down
 and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut
 down replace the drive and re-start?

 -

 -
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-28 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
I always forget that - thanks for the reminder, Erik. So easy to forget...


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From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

AND worth checking for firmware updates for the drives and controller
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
+1

We've also re-scanned arrays (on HP, specifically) and seen the array come back 
as healthy with no errors - and run that way for years after the fact. Joe is 
right. It may be a false alarm.


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From: Louis, Joe 
[mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.commailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:59 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Did you mean DL instead of GL? I've been using DL 380s since G1. Most of the 
Proliants are similar. Cant say that I've ever seen one where the RAID 0+1 is 
in a box that doesn't support hot swappable drives. It should be as simple as 
pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You shouldn't have to 
bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the Hot-swappable parts have 
purple handles.

The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured and 
you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is going 
bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have a red 
fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event log will 
show degrading status entries.

They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for good 
reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I've used drives for years after 
first identified with an alert.

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edumailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.
Make sure you've got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and 
the raid controller should automatically rebuild.
No down time.

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-28 Thread Ken Schaefer
Not sure about GL, but DL G5 is hotswap (I suspect that GL will be the same).

For re-assurance, do a backup prior to pulling the failed drive.

Since it's a DC, and you have others, it's not a huge deal (unless you have 
applications hard coded to use this DC - plenty of those around IME).


a)  Check firmware etc (per suggestions)

b)  Transfer the FSMO roles first (if they are held by this machine)

c)   Do a backup

d)  Pull the failed drive. You can try a reseat per suggestions. Otherwise 
plug in the new drive

If everything goes bad, then reinstall Windows and do a dcpromo

Cheers
Ken

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
-
-
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-28 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Nice summation of everyone's input, Ken.


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From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Not sure about GL, but DL G5 is hotswap (I suspect that GL will be the same).

For re-assurance, do a backup prior to pulling the failed drive.

Since it's a DC, and you have others, it's not a huge deal (unless you have 
applications hard coded to use this DC - plenty of those around IME).


a)  Check firmware etc (per suggestions)

b)  Transfer the FSMO roles first (if they are held by this machine)

c)   Do a backup

d)  Pull the failed drive. You can try a reseat per suggestions. Otherwise 
plug in the new drive

If everything goes bad, then reinstall Windows and do a dcpromo

Cheers
Ken

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 4:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
-
-
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Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Stefan Jafs
I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me
that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down
replace the drive and re-start?
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-
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Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Steve Ens
Depends on how the RAID is setup.  You should have hotswap capable drives
thereyou can swap with the system on and the rebuild would be automatic.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me
 that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
 I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down
 and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut
 down replace the drive and re-start?
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Glen Johnson
Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.
Make sure you've got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and 
the raid controller should automatically rebuild.
No down time.

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
In theory... ;-)

I've seen it go both ways. Usually it goes fine, but I have had a 
non-recoverable failure one time. Good luck!


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From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.
Make sure you've got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and 
the raid controller should automatically rebuild.
No down time.

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
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-
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Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes they are hot swap, so pull the drive on the running server and then plug
in the new one just like Raid 5 and it will automatically re-build?
It's my second physical AD server with an virtual as my 3rd back up so I
should be ok.

Stefan

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:

  Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.

 Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in
 and the raid controller should automatically rebuild.

 No down time.



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me
 that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!

 I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down
 and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut
 down replace the drive and re-start?

 -

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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Yes, it should rebuild, and you should be fine. Its been a while since I've 
touched HP, but you should have a GUI loaded on the system that will show you 
RAID rebuild progress.

With it being an AD server, I'd double check what FSMO roles that server is 
running prior to doing anything, just so you know what you're up against if it 
blows up in your face.


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From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Yes they are hot swap, so pull the drive on the running server and then plug in 
the new one just like Raid 5 and it will automatically re-build?
It's my second physical AD server with an virtual as my 3rd back up so I should 
be ok.

Stefan
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Glen Johnson 
gjohn...@vhcc.edumailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:
Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.
Make sure you've got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and 
the raid controller should automatically rebuild.
No down time.

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.commailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Louis, Joe
Did you mean DL instead of GL? I've been using DL 380s since G1. Most of the 
Proliants are similar. Cant say that I've ever seen one where the RAID 0+1 is 
in a box that doesn't support hot swappable drives. It should be as simple as 
pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You shouldn't have to 
bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the Hot-swappable parts have 
purple handles.

The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured and 
you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is going 
bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have a red 
fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event log will 
show degrading status entries.

They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for good 
reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I've used drives for years after 
first identified with an alert.

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.
Make sure you've got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and 
the raid controller should automatically rebuild.
No down time.

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
+1

We've also re-scanned arrays (on HP, specifically) and seen the array come back 
as healthy with no errors - and run that way for years after the fact. Joe is 
right. It may be a false alarm.


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From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Did you mean DL instead of GL? I've been using DL 380s since G1. Most of the 
Proliants are similar. Cant say that I've ever seen one where the RAID 0+1 is 
in a box that doesn't support hot swappable drives. It should be as simple as 
pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You shouldn't have to 
bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the Hot-swappable parts have 
purple handles.

The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured and 
you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is going 
bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have a red 
fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event log will 
show degrading status entries.

They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for good 
reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I've used drives for years after 
first identified with an alert.

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.
Make sure you've got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and 
the raid controller should automatically rebuild.
No down time.

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!
I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the drive and re-start?
-
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RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Bob Hartung
Try removing the drive and then plugging it back in. I've had Dell RAIDs report 
a failed drive but re-seating the drive resolves the issue. I think what 
happens is that over time the contacts develop a little oxide and the 
connections weakens. Re-seating the drive scrapes off the oxide and the drive 
rebuilds and works fine.

Same thing happens on network cables that are plugged in for years and then 
mysteriously stop working. Unplug/replug and the problem is fixed.

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Oregon, WI 53575
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From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:05:15 -0500
Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

  
  

+1  

   

We’ve also re-scanned arrays (on HP, specifically) and seen the array come back 
as healthy with no errors – and run that way for years   after the fact. Joe is 
right. It may be a false alarm.  

   
  

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com  
  
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From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]  
  Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:59 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

   

Did you mean DL instead of GL? I’ve been using DL 380s since G1. Most of the 
Proliants are similar. Cant say that I’ve ever seen   one where the RAID 0+1 is 
in a box that doesn’t support hot swappable drives. It “should” be as simple as 
pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You shouldn’t have to 
bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the Hot-swappable parts have   
purple handles.   

   

The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured and 
you can make your decision from there. If Insight   says that the drive is 
going bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have a 
red fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event log 
will show degrading status entries.

   

They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for good 
reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I’ve   used drives for years after 
first identified with an alert.   

   
  
  

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]  
  Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)  

   

Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.  

Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in and 
the raid controller should automatically rebuild.  

No down time.  

   

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]  
  Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)  

   

I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me that 
drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!  
  

I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down and 
start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut down 
replace the   drive and re-start?
  

-
  

-  
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Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Richard Stovall
+1

And make sure you pull the right one no matter what you end up doing.  The
ACU will let you blink the drive lights individually to be double sure.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.com wrote:

  Try removing the drive and then plugging it back in. I've had Dell RAIDs
 report a failed drive but re-seating the drive resolves the issue. I think
 what happens is that over time the contacts develop a little oxide and the
 connections weakens. Re-seating the drive scrapes off the oxide and the
 drive rebuilds and works fine.

 Same thing happens on network cables that are plugged in for years and then
 mysteriously stop working. Unplug/replug and the problem is fixed.

 --

 Bob Hartung
 Wisco Industries, Inc.
 736 Janesville St.
 Oregon, WI 53575
 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
 Fax: (608) 835-7399
 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com

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 *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 ]
 *Sent:* Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:05:15 -0500

 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

  +1



 We’ve also re-scanned arrays (on HP, specifically) and seen the array come
 back as healthy with no errors – and run that way for years after the fact.
 Joe is right. It may be a false alarm.



 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA*
 *jra...@eaglemds.com*
 *www.eaglemds.com
   --

 *From:* Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:59 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 Did you mean DL instead of GL? I’ve been using DL 380s since G1. Most of
 the Proliants are similar. Cant say that I’ve ever seen one where the RAID
 0+1 is in a box that doesn’t support hot swappable drives. It “should” be as
 simple as pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You
 shouldn’t have to bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the
 Hot-swappable parts have purple handles.



 The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured
 and you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is
 going bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have
 a red fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event
 log will show degrading status entries.



 They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for
 good reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I’ve used drives for years
 after first identified with an alert.



 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.

 Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in
 and the raid controller should automatically rebuild.

 No down time.



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me
 that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!

 I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down
 and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut
 down replace the drive and re-start?

 -

 -
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Re: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

2010-10-27 Thread Richard Stovall
Actually, now that I think about it, you should run the ADU before you do
anything.  Sorry if I missed an earlier post where say you've done that.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

 And make sure you pull the right one no matter what you end up doing.  The
 ACU will let you blink the drive lights individually to be double sure.

 On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Bob Hartung bhart...@wiscoind.comwrote:

  Try removing the drive and then plugging it back in. I've had Dell RAIDs
 report a failed drive but re-seating the drive resolves the issue. I think
 what happens is that over time the contacts develop a little oxide and the
 connections weakens. Re-seating the drive scrapes off the oxide and the
 drive rebuilds and works fine.

 Same thing happens on network cables that are plugged in for years and
 then mysteriously stop working. Unplug/replug and the problem is fixed.

 --

 Bob Hartung
 Wisco Industries, Inc.
 736 Janesville St.
 Oregon, WI 53575
 Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
 Fax: (608) 835-7399
 e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com

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 *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:
 ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 *Sent:* Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:05:15 -0500

 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)

  +1



 We’ve also re-scanned arrays (on HP, specifically) and seen the array come
 back as healthy with no errors – and run that way for years after the fact.
 Joe is right. It may be a false alarm.



 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA*
 *jra...@eaglemds.com*
 *www.eaglemds.com
   --

 *From:* Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:59 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 Did you mean DL instead of GL? I’ve been using DL 380s since G1. Most of
 the Proliants are similar. Cant say that I’ve ever seen one where the RAID
 0+1 is in a box that doesn’t support hot swappable drives. It “should” be as
 simple as pulling the one going bad and putting the new one in. You
 shouldn’t have to bother with Smartstart. On Proliants, most of the
 Hot-swappable parts have purple handles.



 The HP Array control software would tell you exactly how it is configured
 and you can make your decision from there. If Insight says that the drive is
 going bad, it should already have marked it as such and the drive would have
 a red fault light on. If so, it would already be offline. The Windows event
 log will show degrading status entries.



 They are really good about those kinds of things and hyper sensitive for
 good reason. It might just need to be reseated.  I’ve used drives for years
 after first identified with an alert.



 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:32 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 Me thinks those are most likely hot swap drives.

 Make sure you’ve got a good backup, pull the failing drive, put new one in
 and the raid controller should automatically rebuild.

 No down time.



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:27 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing drive in Raid 1 (+ 0)



 I have an HP GL380 G5 server with 2 drives for the OS, it's now telling me
 that drive 1 is about to fail! 2 months after the end of Warranty!

 I'm ordering a new drive but how do I replace it? Do I have to shut down
 and start with SmartStart go to ACU and split the Array or do I simply shut
 down replace the drive and re-start?

 -

 -
 Stefan Jafs

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