RE: Security Camera's

[Phillip Partipilo]

I'll second Axis's PTZ cameras. They cost alot up front, but they are built
very very well.
 
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

  _  

From: Mark Boersma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security Camera's




I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J

 

Mark

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Two rules to success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security Camera's

 

 

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but what
are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?

 

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Re: Security Camera's

[Jon Harris]

Yes Thank you this will save me a lot of time.

Jon

On Dec 28, 2007 8:52 AM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  Excellent writeup, thank you.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> -
>
> Two rules to success in life:
>
> 1. Never tell people everything you know.
>
>
>
> *From:* Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 3:27 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security Camera's
>
>
>
>
> I've had to do some budget camera shopping myself, and have a little
> insight on IP cameras.
>
> Axis is the #1 brand for cameras. They are crisp, responsive, and robust.
> An indoor "cheap" axis (the 207 model) looking through a window looks better
> than some of the outdoor models available from other vendors. Prices can
> skyrocket quickly with these cameras, shooting over $1000 per camera is easy
> to do.
>
> At the other end of the spectrum we have the D-Link. I've dealt with a few
> of these cameras, and the only one that worked for me was the DCS-900...
> their cheapest model. For less than $100, this camera has been running in my
> shop for over a year now non stop... but it's frame rate is horrid (6fps
> using MJPEG). Others I've tried (like the PoE DCS-1110) won't work with my
> software (more on that later).
>
> There is a company named gadspot that makes very inexpensive cameras.
> After putting one of their cameras through the paces, I'd recommend avoiding
> them.
>
> Cisco has come out with a new IP Camera. It's got most of the right
> features like PoE, a DC Iris, MJPEG and MPEG4... And since it's a clone of
> one of their Linksys products, it's fairly inexpensive. I wouldn't mind
> trying one of those.
>
> As for the Trendnet, the only camera of theirs that caught my eye was the
> TV-201p, which appears to be one of the least expensive PoE cameras on the
> market (except for the before-mentioned D-Link DCS-1110). If it can do MJPEG
> support, It would be a killer indoor camera for cheap. Many of the others
> simply will not work with my server software.
>
> Panasonic makes some good looking cameras on paper, but I have yet to get
> one in my hands to try out. If you check out Panasonic's website, they have
> cameras in the Consumer and in the Corperate sections of their site, each
> with their own line of cameras.
>
> Vivotek is an interesting camea vendor. Many other vendors use re-branded
> versions of their camreas. (For example, 4XEM uses rebranded Vivotek gear.)
> If you're in the States, it's a little hard to get these Taiwan cameras, but
> they have a very good price/feature ratio.
>
> But when we decided to get a camera for outdoor use at our school, we
> decided on the Toshiba IK-WB02A. Actually, we decided on the camera kits
> that came with the zoom and wide angle lens. My review of these cameras are
> that they are quite functional, robust (I have 1 out of 5 that is having
> problems, but I think it has more to do with my wiring than the camera
> itself) and has the features we needed for a price we could afford. We house
> them within Videolarm outdoor heated and ventilated housings and have been
> quite happy with the camera's performance. My one complaint would be the
> difficulty it is to focus the cameras, especially since it is best to focus
> these cameras during night. Since the iris opens completely duing dark
> hours, the focus must be spot on... otherwise the picture gets fuzzy very
> quickly.
>
> If I could make suggestion: No matter what camera you get, make sure it
> doesn't "requires Internet Explorer" and doesn't support other browsers.
> This basicaly means that the camera can only be viewed with an ActiveX
> plugin... which means it is only supported by Windows and IE. Never limit
> yourself to a single platform if you can avoid it. this is why I cannot
> recommend most D-Link or Trendnet cameras.
>
> As for server software, I only have dealt with 2: ZoneMinder and Lux Riot.
>
> Lux Riot looks to be an excellent windows based camera recording software.
> but, since license for the camera was going to cost as much as the hardware
> I was going to run the hardware one, I decided to look at the open source
> alternative.
>
> ZoneMinder is quickly maturing into an excellent piece of software. It can
> do motion detection, camera control, Follow the moving item, and many other
> advanced features... but it also has its' limitations: Works only with JPEG
> and MJPEG cameras, no MPEG4. Scheduling needs work. Reviewing video could
> use improvement. Oh, and you'll have to build it for yourself. But, there is
> one great advantage to going withe the Free software first... If ZoneMinder
> ever stops meeting our needs, We aren't heavily invested in it.
>
> I hope this info is useful to some of you.
>
> --Matt Ross
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RE: Security Camera's

[Mark Boersma]

Excellent writeup, thank you.

 

Mark

-

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1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security Camera's

 


I've had to do some budget camera shopping myself, and have a little
insight on IP cameras.

Axis is the #1 brand for cameras. They are crisp, responsive, and
robust. An indoor "cheap" axis (the 207 model) looking through a window
looks better than some of the outdoor models available from other
vendors. Prices can skyrocket quickly with these cameras, shooting over
$1000 per camera is easy to do.

At the other end of the spectrum we have the D-Link. I've dealt with a
few of these cameras, and the only one that worked for me was the
DCS-900... their cheapest model. For less than $100, this camera has
been running in my shop for over a year now non stop... but it's frame
rate is horrid (6fps using MJPEG). Others I've tried (like the PoE
DCS-1110) won't work with my software (more on that later).

There is a company named gadspot that makes very inexpensive cameras.
After putting one of their cameras through the paces, I'd recommend
avoiding them.

Cisco has come out with a new IP Camera. It's got most of the right
features like PoE, a DC Iris, MJPEG and MPEG4... And since it's a clone
of one of their Linksys products, it's fairly inexpensive. I wouldn't
mind trying one of those.

As for the Trendnet, the only camera of theirs that caught my eye was
the TV-201p, which appears to be one of the least expensive PoE cameras
on the market (except for the before-mentioned D-Link DCS-1110). If it
can do MJPEG support, It would be a killer indoor camera for cheap. Many
of the others simply will not work with my server software.

Panasonic makes some good looking cameras on paper, but I have yet to
get one in my hands to try out. If you check out Panasonic's website,
they have cameras in the Consumer and in the Corperate sections of their
site, each with their own line of cameras.

Vivotek is an interesting camea vendor. Many other vendors use
re-branded versions of their camreas. (For example, 4XEM uses rebranded
Vivotek gear.) If you're in the States, it's a little hard to get these
Taiwan cameras, but they have a very good price/feature ratio.

But when we decided to get a camera for outdoor use at our school, we
decided on the Toshiba IK-WB02A. Actually, we decided on the camera kits
that came with the zoom and wide angle lens. My review of these cameras
are that they are quite functional, robust (I have 1 out of 5 that is
having problems, but I think it has more to do with my wiring than the
camera itself) and has the features we needed for a price we could
afford. We house them within Videolarm outdoor heated and ventilated
housings and have been quite happy with the camera's performance. My one
complaint would be the difficulty it is to focus the cameras, especially
since it is best to focus these cameras during night. Since the iris
opens completely duing dark hours, the focus must be spot on...
otherwise the picture gets fuzzy very quickly.

If I could make suggestion: No matter what camera you get, make sure it
doesn't "requires Internet Explorer" and doesn't support other browsers.
This basicaly means that the camera can only be viewed with an ActiveX
plugin... which means it is only supported by Windows and IE. Never
limit yourself to a single platform if you can avoid it. this is why I
cannot recommend most D-Link or Trendnet cameras.

As for server software, I only have dealt with 2: ZoneMinder and Lux
Riot.

Lux Riot looks to be an excellent windows based camera recording
software. but, since license for the camera was going to cost as much as
the hardware I was going to run the hardware one, I decided to look at
the open source alternative.

ZoneMinder is quickly maturing into an excellent piece of software. It
can do motion detection, camera control, Follow the moving item, and
many other advanced features... but it also has its' limitations: Works
only with JPEG and MJPEG cameras, no MPEG4. Scheduling needs work.
Reviewing video could use improvement. Oh, and you'll have to build it
for yourself. But, there is one great advantage to going withe the Free
software first... If ZoneMinder ever stops meeting our needs, We aren't
heavily invested in it.

I hope this info is useful to some of you.

--Matt Ross

 
 
 
 

 

 





 


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RE: Security Camera's

[RichardMcClary]

[sigh, and possible hijack] Our Axis bit the big one when trying to do a 
firmware upgrade...

We received a CERT advisory warning of a known vulnerability in the 
firmware it was running.  Well, at least the vulnerability no longer 
exists...  :(
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Art DeKneef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/27/2007 08:09:11 PM:

> Axis has cameras and software that will allow you to motion record 
> what the camera sees. Great for instances like this. This is 
> considering that the area doesn’t get a lot of traffic. They have 
> proven useful twice at one of my clients.
> 
> Art
> 
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Security Camera's
> 
> 
> Thanks good to know.  We just discovered 3 laptops took a powder 
> over the Christmas holiday.  They were removed from a securty cage. 
> At the moment we are considering all doors with fixed camera's and 
> some ptz's in more open areas. 
> 
> Jon
> On Dec 27, 2007 7:04 PM, Art DeKneef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Axis makes cameras for inside use. I have deployed several 206 
> cameras at different clients if all you need is a fixed camera.
> 
> I think it depends on the number of cameras and how/who they are 
> going to be viewed/managed. 
> 
> Art
> 
> 
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:01 PM 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Security Camera's
> 
> 
> Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very 
> impressive.  They are also intended for outside use at least that is
> what their sales engineer told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks 
> for the dlink warning. 
> 
> What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at 
> the IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price 
range.
> 
> Jon
> On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites. 
> Stay away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J
> 
> Mark
> -
> Two rules to success in life:
> 1. Never tell people everything you know.
> 
> From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Security Camera's 
> 
> 
> We use pelco.  No complaints
> 
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Security Camera's
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> 
> There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes 
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RE: Security Camera's

[Matthew W. Ross]

I've had to do some budget camera shopping myself, and have a little insight on 
IP cameras.

Axis is the #1 brand for cameras. They are crisp, responsive, and robust. An 
indoor "cheap" axis (the 207 model) looking through a window looks better than 
some of the outdoor models available from other vendors. Prices can skyrocket 
quickly with these cameras, shooting over $1000 per camera is easy to do.

At the other end of the spectrum we have the D-Link. I've dealt with a few of 
these cameras, and the only one that worked for me was the DCS-900... their 
cheapest model. For less than $100, this camera has been running in my shop for 
over a year now non stop... but it's frame rate is horrid (6fps using MJPEG). 
Others I've tried (like the PoE DCS-1110) won't work with my software (more on 
that later).

There is a company named gadspot that makes very inexpensive cameras. After 
putting one of their cameras through the paces, I'd recommend avoiding them.

Cisco has come out with a new IP Camera. It's got most of the right features 
like PoE, a DC Iris, MJPEG and MPEG4... And since it's a clone of one of their 
Linksys products, it's fairly inexpensive. I wouldn't mind trying one of those.

As for the Trendnet, the only camera of theirs that caught my eye was the 
TV-201p, which appears to be one of the least expensive PoE cameras on the 
market (except for the before-mentioned D-Link DCS-1110). If it can do MJPEG 
support, It would be a killer indoor camera for cheap. Many of the others 
simply will not work with my server software.

Panasonic makes some good looking cameras on paper, but I have yet to get one 
in my hands to try out. If you check out Panasonic's website, they have cameras 
in the Consumer and in the Corperate sections of their site, each with their 
own line of cameras.

Vivotek is an interesting camea vendor. Many other vendors use re-branded 
versions of their camreas. (For example, 4XEM uses rebranded Vivotek gear.) If 
you're in the States, it's a little hard to get these Taiwan cameras, but they 
have a very good price/feature ratio.

But when we decided to get a camera for outdoor use at our school, we decided 
on the Toshiba IK-WB02A. Actually, we decided on the camera kits that came with 
the zoom and wide angle lens. My review of these cameras are that they are 
quite functional, robust (I have 1 out of 5 that is having problems, but I 
think it has more to do with my wiring than the camera itself) and has the 
features we needed for a price we could afford. We house them within Videolarm 
outdoor heated and ventilated housings and have been quite happy with the 
camera's performance. My one complaint would be the difficulty it is to focus 
the cameras, especially since it is best to focus these cameras during night. 
Since the iris opens completely duing dark hours, the focus must be spot on... 
otherwise the picture gets fuzzy very quickly.

If I could make suggestion: No matter what camera you get, make sure it doesn't 
"requires Internet Explorer" and doesn't support other browsers. This basicaly 
means that the camera can only be viewed with an ActiveX plugin... which means 
it is only supported by Windows and IE. Never limit yourself to a single 
platform if you can avoid it. this is why I cannot recommend most D-Link or 
Trendnet cameras.

As for server software, I only have dealt with 2: ZoneMinder and Lux Riot.

Lux Riot looks to be an excellent windows based camera recording software. but, 
since license for the camera was going to cost as much as the hardware I was 
going to run the hardware one, I decided to look at the open source alternative.

ZoneMinder is quickly maturing into an excellent piece of software. It can do 
motion detection, camera control, Follow the moving item, and many other 
advanced features... but it also has its' limitations: Works only with JPEG and 
MJPEG cameras, no MPEG4. Scheduling needs work. Reviewing video could use 
improvement. Oh, and you'll have to build it for yourself. But, there is one 
great advantage to going withe the Free software first... If ZoneMinder ever 
stops meeting our needs, We aren't heavily invested in it.

I hope this info is useful to some of you.

--Matt Ross



  
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RE: Security Camera's

[Art DeKneef]

Yes. With the camera management software you can do all the time, certain
times, or motion. Depending on the camera. You can mix or match also.
Meaning from 8AM to 5PM record everything, the rest of the time motion. 

 

Here's the cameras http://www.axis.com/products/video/camera/

 

Here's the software:
http://www.axis.com/products/cam_station_software/index.htm

 

The new model 209 is really nice.

 

Art

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

 

Can they be set to only record during certain times of the day?

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 9:09 PM, Art DeKneef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

Axis has cameras and software that will allow you to motion record what the
camera sees. Great for instances like this. This is considering that the
area doesn't get a lot of traffic. They have proven useful twice at one of
my clients. 

 

Art

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:16 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

 

Thanks good to know.  We just discovered 3 laptops took a powder over the
Christmas holiday.  They were removed from a securty cage.  At the moment we
are considering all doors with fixed camera's and some ptz's in more open
areas. 

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 7:04 PM, Art DeKneef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

Axis makes cameras for inside use. I have deployed several 206 cameras at
different clients if all you need is a fixed camera.

 

I think it depends on the number of cameras and how/who they are going to be
viewed/managed. 

 

Art

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:01 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

 

Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.  They
are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales engineer
told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink warning. 

 

What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J

 

Mark

-

Two rules to success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Security Camera's 

 

 

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but what
are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?

 

Jon

















































































































 
 


 

 
























































 


 





























 


 





























 


 















 


 















 


 








 


 








 


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RE: Security Camera's

[Joe Fox]

We just deployed about 40 Axis cameras at one of our facilities (both
indoor and outdoor).  You want to make sure that you have enought space
if you are keeping the video (in just under 3 months we used 1.3Tb at
8fps).  Since we have the drive cage max'd out on the server, we added a
Drobo with an additional Tb of storage for archiving.  You also want to
make sure that you have plenty of bandwidth going to the
recording/monitoring server.  We kept dropping packets on our 10/100
switches, but eliminated it by putting a 48 port gigabit switch in.

 

HTH.

 

Joe Fox

Systems Administrator

 

The McGuire Group

Office#  (716) 826-2010 ext: 1172

Mobile# (716) 846-9308

 

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From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

 

Yeah, I know about that but this is for internal use so I will care very
much who can and can not see.  I do have an external web server that we
may or may not use.

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 5:02 PM, Alex Eckelberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

 

With any camera, just make sure you set up the security correctly (if
you care -- many people don't give a darn if the world can see their
parking lot).  


Examples:

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=inurl%3AindexFrame.shtml+A
xis&btnG=Google+Search
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=inurl%3AindexFrame.shtml+
Axis&btnG=Google+Search> 

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22&btnG
=Google+Search
<http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22&btn
G=Google+Search> 

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22+%7C+
inurl%3Aview%2Fview.shtml%5E
<http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22+%7C
+inurl%3Aview%2Fview.shtml%5E> 

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=inurl%3A%22ViewerFrame%3FM
ode%3D%22&btnG=Google+Search 

 

And so on

 

Alex

 



From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:56 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.
They are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales
engineer told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink
warning. 

 

What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J

 

Mark

-

Two rules to success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Security Camera's 

 

 

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but
what are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away
from?

 

Jon





















 
 


 

 










 


 






 


 






 


 






 

 

 






 


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Re: Security Camera's

[Jon Harris]

Can they be set to only record during certain times of the day?

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 9:09 PM, Art DeKneef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  Axis has cameras and software that will allow you to motion record what
> the camera sees. Great for instances like this. This is considering that the
> area doesn't get a lot of traffic. They have proven useful twice at one of
> my clients.
>
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>
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:16 PM
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> Thanks good to know.  We just discovered 3 laptops took a powder over the
> Christmas holiday.  They were removed from a securty cage.  At the moment we
> are considering all doors with fixed camera's and some ptz's in more open
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> Jon
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> On Dec 27, 2007 7:04 PM, Art DeKneef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:01 PM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Security Camera's
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> Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.
> They are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales
> engineer told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink warning.
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> What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
> IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.
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> Jon
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> On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
> away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J
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> Two rules to success in life:
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> 1. Never tell people everything you know.
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> *From:* Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
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> *Subject:* RE: Security Camera's
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> We use pelco.  No complaints
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Security Camera's
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> There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but
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RE: Security Camera's

[Art DeKneef]

Axis has cameras and software that will allow you to motion record what the
camera sees. Great for instances like this. This is considering that the
area doesn't get a lot of traffic. They have proven useful twice at one of
my clients.

 

Art

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

 

Thanks good to know.  We just discovered 3 laptops took a powder over the
Christmas holiday.  They were removed from a securty cage.  At the moment we
are considering all doors with fixed camera's and some ptz's in more open
areas. 

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 7:04 PM, Art DeKneef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

Axis makes cameras for inside use. I have deployed several 206 cameras at
different clients if all you need is a fixed camera.

 

I think it depends on the number of cameras and how/who they are going to be
viewed/managed. 

 

Art

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:01 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

 

Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.  They
are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales engineer
told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink warning. 

 

What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J

 

Mark

-

Two rules to success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Security Camera's 

 

 

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but what
are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?

 

Jon

























































 
 


 

 




























 


 















 


 















 


 








 


 








 


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Re: Security Camera's

[Jon Harris]

Thanks good to know.  We just discovered 3 laptops took a powder over the
Christmas holiday.  They were removed from a securty cage.  At the moment we
are considering all doors with fixed camera's and some ptz's in more open
areas.

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 7:04 PM, Art DeKneef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  Axis makes cameras for inside use. I have deployed several 206 cameras at
> different clients if all you need is a fixed camera.
>
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>
> I think it depends on the number of cameras and how/who they are going to
> be viewed/managed.
>
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> Art
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:01 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Security Camera's
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> Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.
> They are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales
> engineer told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink warning.
>
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>
> What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
> IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.
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> Jon
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> On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
> away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J
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> Mark
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> -
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> Two rules to success in life:
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> 1. Never tell people everything you know.
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> *From:* Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM
>
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Security Camera's
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> We use pelco.  No complaints
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Security Camera's
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> what are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?
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RE: Security Camera's

[Art DeKneef]

Axis makes cameras for inside use. I have deployed several 206 cameras at
different clients if all you need is a fixed camera.

 

I think it depends on the number of cameras and how/who they are going to be
viewed/managed. 

 

Art

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's

 

 

Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.  They
are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales engineer
told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink warning. 

 

What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.

 

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J

 

Mark

-

Two rules to success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Security Camera's 

 

 

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but what
are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?

 

Jon





























 
 


 

 














 


 








 


 








 


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Re: Security Camera's

[Jon Harris]

Yeah, I know about that but this is for internal use so I will care very
much who can and can not see.  I do have an external web server that we may
or may not use.

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 5:02 PM, Alex Eckelberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> With any camera, just make sure you set up the security correctly (if you
> care -- many people don't give a darn if the world can see their parking
> lot).
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> Examples:
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> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=inurl%3AindexFrame.shtml+Axis&btnG=Google+Search
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>  --
>  *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:56 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Security Camera's
>
>
> Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.
> They are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales
> engineer told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink warning.
>
> What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
> IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.
>
> Jon
>
> On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Stay away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J
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> > *From:* Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* RE: Security Camera's
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> > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Security Camera's
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RE: Security Camera's

[Alex Eckelberry]

With any camera, just make sure you set up the security correctly (if
you care -- many people don't give a darn if the world can see their
parking lot).  

Examples:
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=inurl%3AindexFrame.shtml+A
xis&btnG=Google+Search
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=inurl%3AindexFrame.shtml+
Axis&btnG=Google+Search> 
 
http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22&btnG
=Google+Search
<http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22&btn
G=Google+Search> 
 
http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22+%7C+
inurl%3Aview%2Fview.shtml%5E
<http://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22Live+View+%2F+-+AXIS%22+%7C
+inurl%3Aview%2Fview.shtml%5E> 
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=inurl%3A%22ViewerFrame%3FM
ode%3D%22&btnG=Google+Search
 
And so on
 
Alex



From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Camera's



Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.
They are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales
engineer told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink
warning. 
 
What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.
 
Jon


On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction
sites.  Stay away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J

 

Mark

-

Two rules to success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Security Camera's 





 

 

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security
purposes but what are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I
stay away from?

 

Jon









 
 


 

 




 























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Re: Security Camera's

[Jon Harris]

Yeah, I have seen the Axis cameras up close they are very impressive.  They
are also intended for outside use at least that is what their sales engineer
told me.  I need inside camera's.  Thanks for the dlink warning.

What about TrendNet camera's are they pretty good?  I am looking at the
IP201 and IP400 ones they look promising and are within my price range.

Jon

On Dec 27, 2007 4:49 PM, Mark Boersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
> away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J
>
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> Mark
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> -
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> Two rules to success in life:
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> 1. Never tell people everything you know.
>
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> *From:* Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security Camera's
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> We use pelco.  No complaints
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Security Camera's
>
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> There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but
> what are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?
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RE: Security Camera's

[Mark Boersma]

I've got a quite a few axis ptz cameras out on construction sites.  Stay
away from dlink cameras, they tend to last 366 days. J

 

Mark

-

Two rules to success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security Camera's

 

 

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but
what are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away
from?

 

Jon











 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Security Camera's

[Jacob]

We use pelco.  No complaints

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security Camera's

 

 

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but what
are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?

 

Jon








 


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Security Camera's

[Jon Harris]

There are a lot of companies hawking cameras for security purposes but what
are some of you using.  Better yet which ones should I stay away from?

Jon

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