Re: wierd e-mail issue

[Len Hammond]

Not an actual trace route. From my admin account I *can* get to where she
needs to go and from her user account I can't get there. This is a Windows
2003 Domain with all XP boxes, including this laptop. The kicker is that
just this box fails to get to the Yahoo mail servers and only with her
account. The rest of the workstations on the network *can* get there from
her user account.

Took a look at the firewall and it IS on. Looking at the individual items, I
allowed POP3 mail through and rebooted. Now she can get to the Yahoo mail
servers and get her mail.

So, I guess it's fixed but I'm not clear as to why I had to make this change
on this laptop and *not* on any thing else in the network.

Thanks for the help. Again this list comes through with aid! Great group of
people!!

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com


On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Brian Desmond wrote:

>  *Have you taken a network trace to ascertain whether the machine is
> attempting a connection on the wire? *
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> *Thanks,*
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> *Brian Desmond*
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> *br...@briandesmond.com*
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> *c - 312.731.3132*
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> *From:* Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:30 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* wierd e-mail issue
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> I have a client that I just built a new laptop for that can't get to her
> personal e-mail server on the web. The new machine was a Vista laptop that I
> down graded back to XP (fully patched) to add to the XP/2003 domain in the
> church where she runs the preschool. Her old laptop, a personal XP box could
> and still can get to her e-mail server. She can get to her e-mail server
> from ALL of the rest fo the workstations in the church network, just not her
> own new laptop. The funny part is I think it is some kind of permission
> issue but I can seem to find it. I can get to her e-mail from my church
> accout with admin privs but not her standard user account.  I'm not totally
> convinced it is a propblem with her account as it works from the rest of the
> workstations just not her new laptop.
>
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>
> Any one have thought on what part of the permissions I need to look at now?
>
>
>
> Len Hammond
> CSI:Hartland
> lenhamm...@gmail.com
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RE: wierd e-mail issue

[Brian Desmond]

Have you taken a network trace to ascertain whether the machine is attempting a 
connection on the wire?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: wierd e-mail issue

I have a client that I just built a new laptop for that can't get to her 
personal e-mail server on the web. The new machine was a Vista laptop that I 
down graded back to XP (fully patched) to add to the XP/2003 domain in the 
church where she runs the preschool. Her old laptop, a personal XP box could 
and still can get to her e-mail server. She can get to her e-mail server from 
ALL of the rest fo the workstations in the church network, just not her own new 
laptop. The funny part is I think it is some kind of permission issue but I can 
seem to find it. I can get to her e-mail from my church accout with admin privs 
but not her standard user account.  I'm not totally convinced it is a propblem 
with her account as it works from the rest of the workstations just not her new 
laptop.

Any one have thought on what part of the permissions I need to look at now?

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com<mailto:lenhamm...@gmail.com>





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Re: wierd e-mail issue

[John Aldrich]

On Sun April 4 2010, you wrote:
> This has been true of all recent versions of Windows, IME
> 
> Disabling the service has more implications in Win7
> 
I couldn't say. I've never had any real problem turning off the firewall in 
XP and still having stuff blocked. I just know that even "turning off" the 
firewall in Win 7 doesn't really turn it off. :-)

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

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Re: wierd e-mail issue

[Andrew S. Baker]

This has been true of all recent versions of Windows, IME

Disabling the service has more implications in Win7

On Apr 4, 2010 12:19 AM, "John Aldrich" 
wrote:

On Sat April 3 2010, you wrote:
> The local firewall is (should be) off when this laptop is on the
>...
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know Windows 7 as well as some here
do, but IIRC, even if you have the firewall set to "off" it's still on
unless
you go in and disable the service entirely. Check the vipre network install
instructions for how to disable it entirely. Windows 7 makes it MUCH harder
to disable the firewall than any previous version of Windows.

--
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

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~   ~

Re: wierd e-mail issue

[John Aldrich]

On Sat April 3 2010, you wrote:
> The local firewall is (should be) off when this laptop is on the
> internal network at the church where the preschool is located. The
> firewall was off on both her user account and my admin account when
> logged in to the domain from this laptop the last time I tested
> anything last week. I built all the boxes on the network and this is
> the only laptop, all the others are desk workstations. All machines
> were built from scratch on bare drives - no upgrades here. All done
> with Open License Media and church owned Open License keys. (Charity
> pricing is wonderful - they have a great network with a minimal
> investment into licensing)
> 
> Thanks for the thoughts. I'm going to need to look over the laptop again
> before I make any changes and I'll check the firewall again. That piece
> of work will have to wait until next week. I also have a new piece of
> software to install as soon as it gets here. Probably be here mid week
> next week.
> 
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know Windows 7 as well as some here 
do, but IIRC, even if you have the firewall set to "off" it's still on unless 
you go in and disable the service entirely. Check the vipre network install 
instructions for how to disable it entirely. Windows 7 makes it MUCH harder 
to disable the firewall than any previous version of Windows.

-- 
Thanks,
John Aldrich
Blueridge Industries
IT Manager

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: wierd e-mail issue

[Len Hammond]

The local firewall is (should be) off when this laptop is on the internal
network at the church where the preschool is located. The firewall was off
on both her user account and my admin account when logged in to the domain
from this laptop the last time I tested anything last week. I built all the
boxes on the network and this is the only laptop, all the others are desk
workstations. All machines were built from scratch on bare drives - no
upgrades here. All done with Open License Media and church owned Open
License keys. (Charity pricing is wonderful - they have a great network with
a minimal investment into licensing)

Thanks for the thoughts. I'm going to need to look over the laptop again
before I make any changes and I'll check the firewall again. That piece of
work will have to wait until next week. I also have a new piece of software
to install as soon as it gets here. Probably be here mid week next week.

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  Firewall?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:30 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* wierd e-mail issue
>
>
>
> I have a client that I just built a new laptop for that can't get to her
> personal e-mail server on the web. The new machine was a Vista laptop that I
> down graded back to XP (fully patched) to add to the XP/2003 domain in the
> church where she runs the preschool. Her old laptop, a personal XP box could
> and still can get to her e-mail server. She can get to her e-mail server
> from ALL of the rest fo the workstations in the church network, just not her
> own new laptop. The funny part is I think it is some kind of permission
> issue but I can seem to find it. I can get to her e-mail from my church
> accout with admin privs but not her standard user account.  I'm not totally
> convinced it is a propblem with her account as it works from the rest of the
> workstations just not her new laptop.
>
>
>
> Any one have thought on what part of the permissions I need to look at now?
>
>
>
> Len Hammond
> CSI:Hartland
> lenhamm...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: wierd e-mail issue

[Steven M. Caesare]

Firewall?

 

-sc

 

From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: wierd e-mail issue

 

I have a client that I just built a new laptop for that can't get to her
personal e-mail server on the web. The new machine was a Vista laptop
that I down graded back to XP (fully patched) to add to the XP/2003
domain in the church where she runs the preschool. Her old laptop, a
personal XP box could and still can get to her e-mail server. She can
get to her e-mail server from ALL of the rest fo the workstations in the
church network, just not her own new laptop. The funny part is I think
it is some kind of permission issue but I can seem to find it. I can get
to her e-mail from my church accout with admin privs but not her
standard user account.  I'm not totally convinced it is a propblem with
her account as it works from the rest of the workstations just not her
new laptop.

 

Any one have thought on what part of the permissions I need to look at
now?

 

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

wierd e-mail issue

[Len Hammond]

I have a client that I just built a new laptop for that can't get to her
personal e-mail server on the web. The new machine was a Vista laptop that I
down graded back to XP (fully patched) to add to the XP/2003 domain in the
church where she runs the preschool. Her old laptop, a personal XP box could
and still can get to her e-mail server. She can get to her e-mail server
from ALL of the rest fo the workstations in the church network, just not her
own new laptop. The funny part is I think it is some kind of permission
issue but I can seem to find it. I can get to her e-mail from my church
accout with admin privs but not her standard user account.  I'm not totally
convinced it is a propblem with her account as it works from the rest of the
workstations just not her new laptop.

Any one have thought on what part of the permissions I need to look at now?

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~