Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

[Joe Harrington]

Just to keep people in the loop, Ralf and I are in discussion with 
people at NASA HQ about a funding stream for core development.  Ralf has 
put together a short description of the development and funding model (5 
core projects, 10-20 core developers each, nearly all volunteer now, how 
NumFOCUS fits in, what we hope to establish from NASA vs. from other 
agencies, industry, other countries' science entities, etc.).  That will 
circulate within the agency, to see what can be scraped together. 
Program managers in NASA's Science Mission Directorate (SMD) gave 
quite-positive feedback on how vital the Python ecosystem is to NASA's 
mission.  We're emphasizing the need for both new functionality and 
maintenance (e.g., docs, web site, bug fixing). If this is ultimately 
successful, it can be a model for approaching other agencies in the US 
and elsewhere.


To Steve's point, regarding how hard it is for Civil Servants to 
contribute to OSS (due to NASA's lengthy internal review process for 
releasing software), this problem was clearly called out in the 
Academies report.  We proposed some solutions to streamline things.  
What's needed now is for NASA Civil Servants to take that report and the 
relevant white papers (cited in the report and posted online) to their 
center's senior management, and to NASA HQ, and similarly for others in 
government agencies.  You may wish to start from NASA's (or your 
agency's) mission, which includes sharing technology openly to boost the 
economy, and how you are encountering unreasonable barriers to that 
goal.  This is mandated by the National Air and Space Act of 1958.


For example, there is little reason to conduct an export-control review 
with lawyers looking at code emerging from a group that has nothing to 
do with anything near an export-controlled topic. Universities and 
contractors are subject to the same export-control laws as NASA, and 
they have not routinely conducted similar reviews of every line of code 
released.  This has not led to a pattern of export violations.  (Whether 
there is any benefit at all to the export control laws as applied to 
software is debatable, since it's usually easy for coders elsewhere to 
write the same codes, but the law is the law.)


--jh--

On 5/3/19 12:48 PM, numpy-discussion-requ...@python.org wrote:

Subject:
Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python 
projects (rejected)

From:
Mark Mikofski 
Date:
5/3/19, 12:47 PM

To:
Discussion of Numerical Python 


Sorry, that last attachment was just a slide show of the topic 3 
recording, here is the full funding opportunity announcement - letter 
with 200 word abstract are due May 7th


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:40 AM Mark Mikofski > wrote:


Hi Ralf, and others,

Sorry for the late notice, but there is are several funding
opportunities in solar, including one for $350,000 to develop open
source software to lower soft costs of solar.
https://eere-exchange.energy.gov/#FoaId45eda43a-e826-4481-ae7a-cc6e8ed4fdae

see topic 3.4 specifically in attached PDF - also note to view the
recording the password is "*Setofoa2019"* it's about 30 minutes long.

I know that this is a extremely niche, but as a few others have
said, [the DOE] grants tend to be very specific, but perhaps we
can creatively think of ways to channel funds to NumPy and SciPy.

Also there is a cost share that is typically 20%, which would be a
non-starter for volunteer projects.

But here's an idea, perhaps partnering with a company, like mine
(DNV GL) who is applying for the grant, and who uses NumPy,and
could pay the cost share, and then we collaborate on something
that is required to complete the project, which is contributed to
NumPy (or SciPy) - but we would have to figure what we could align on.

Seems like NumFOCUS, Quantsight, or some other company in the OSS
space could figure out ways to help connect companies, OSS
projects, and funding opportunities like these, where there's a
possibility of alignment and mutual benefit?

The full list of funding opportunities is here:
https://eere-exchange.energy.gov/

Best Regards,
Mark


On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:52 PM Ralf Gommers
mailto:ralf.gomm...@gmail.com>> wrote:



On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury
mailto:water...@pangalactic.us>> wrote:

P.S.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy
2019,
I will be there (on my own nickel!  ;) ...


Thanks for the input Stephen, and looking forward to see you
at SciPy'19!

Ralf


Steve

On 5/2/19 9:45 PM, Stephen Waterbury wrote:


I am a NASA pythonista (for 20+ years ;), but you can now
say you know
yet another person at NASA who has no idea this even
exists ... :)
Not only do I not kno

Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

[Chris Barker]

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 9:56 AM Stephen Waterbury 
wrote:

> Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there.
>
> OK< that's two of us :-)

NumFocus folk: Should we take this off the list and talk about a BoF or
something at SciPy?

-CHB





> Steve
>
> On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris Barker wrote:
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> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommers 
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> P.S.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019,
>>> I will be there (on my own nickel!  ;) ...
>>>
>>
> So will I (on NOAA's nickel, which I am grateful for)
>
> Maybe we should hold a BoF, or even something more formal, on Government
> support for SciPY Stack development?
>
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

[Stephen Waterbury]

Sure, I would be interested to discuss, let's try to meet up there.

Steve

On 5/3/19 12:23 PM, Chris Barker wrote:

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommers > wrote:


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury
mailto:water...@pangalactic.us>> wrote:

P.S.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019,
I will be there (on my own nickel!  ;) ...


So will I (on NOAA's nickel, which I am grateful for)

Maybe we should hold a BoF, or even something more formal, on 
Government support for SciPY Stack development?


-CHB
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

[Chris Barker]

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:51 PM Ralf Gommers  wrote:

> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:49 AM Stephen Waterbury 
> wrote:
>
>> P.S.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019,
>> I will be there (on my own nickel!  ;) ...
>>
>
So will I (on NOAA's nickel, which I am grateful for)

Maybe we should hold a BoF, or even something more formal, on Government
support for SciPY Stack development?

-CHB

-- 

Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer

Emergency Response Division
NOAA/NOS/OR&R(206) 526-6959   voice
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[Numpy-discussion] EuroSciPy 2019 - extension of deadline

[Pierre de Buyl]

Hi all,

The call for proposals for EuroSciPy 2019 is extended to 12 may 2019.

https://pretalx.com/euroscipy-2019/cfp

EuroSciPy 2019 takes place 2-6 September 2019 in Bilbao, Spain. There will be
two days of tutorials, two days of conference, and one day of sprints!

Find us on the web https://www.euroscipy.org/2019/ and on twitter
https://twitter.com/EuroSciPy

Regards,

The EuroSciPy 2019 team

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