Re: [Numpy-discussion] Py3k: making a py3k compat header available in installed numpy for scipy

2010-03-30 Thread Pauli Virtanen
2010/3/30 David Cournapeau da...@silveregg.co.jp
 Pauli Virtanen wrote:
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  At least, I don't see what I would like to change there. The only thing
  I wouldn't perhaps like to have in the long run are the PyString and
  possibly PyInt redefinition macros.

 I would also prefer a new name, instead of macro redefinition, but I can
 do it.

For strings, the new names are PyBytes, PyUnicode and PyUString
(unicode on Py3, bytes on Py2). One of these should be used instead of PyString
in all places, but redefining the macro reduced the work in making a
quick'n'dirty
port of numpy.

For integers, perhaps a separate PyInt on Py2, PyLong on Py3 type should
be defined. Not sure if this would reduce work in practice.

 The header would not be part of the public API proper anyway (I
 will put it somewhere else than numpy/include), it should never be
 pulled implicitly in when including one of the .h in numpy/include.

Agreed.

Pauli
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[Numpy-discussion] Py3k: making a py3k compat header available in installed numpy for scipy

2010-03-29 Thread David Cournapeau
Hi,

I have worked on porting scipy to py3k, and it is mostly working. One
thing which would be useful is to install something similar to
npy_3kcompat.h in numpy, so that every scipy extension could share the
compat header. Is the current python 3 compatibility header usable in
the wild, or will it still significantly change (this requiring a
different, more stable one) ?

cheers,

David
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Py3k: making a py3k compat header available in installed numpy for scipy

2010-03-29 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:13 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I have worked on porting scipy to py3k, and it is mostly working. One
 thing which would be useful is to install something similar to
 npy_3kcompat.h in numpy, so that every scipy extension could share the
 compat header. Is the current python 3 compatibility header usable in
 the wild, or will it still significantly change (this requiring a
 different, more stable one) ?


Pauli will have to weigh in here, but I think it is pretty stable and has
been for a while. The only thing I'm thinking of changing are the PyCapsule
compatibility functions; instead of having them downgrade PyCapsule to
PyCObject like behaviour, go the other way. Going the other way requires
changes to the surrounding code to handle errors, which is why Numpy doesn't
use those functions at the moment.

Chuck
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Py3k: making a py3k compat header available in installed numpy for scipy

2010-03-29 Thread Pauli Virtanen
ma, 2010-03-29 kello 19:13 +0900, David Cournapeau kirjoitti:
 I have worked on porting scipy to py3k, and it is mostly working. One
 thing which would be useful is to install something similar to
 npy_3kcompat.h in numpy, so that every scipy extension could share the
 compat header. Is the current python 3 compatibility header usable in
 the wild, or will it still significantly change (this requiring a
 different, more stable one) ?

I believe it's reasonably stable, as it contains mostly simple stuff.
Something perhaps can be added later, but I don't think anything will
need to be removed.

At least, I don't see what I would like to change there. The only thing
I wouldn't perhaps like to have in the long run are the PyString and
possibly PyInt redefinition macros. But if the header is going to be
used elsewhere, we can as well freeze it now and promise not to remove
or change anything existing.

Pauli


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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Py3k: making a py3k compat header available in installed numpy for scipy

2010-03-29 Thread David Cournapeau
Pauli Virtanen wrote:
 ma, 2010-03-29 kello 19:13 +0900, David Cournapeau kirjoitti:
 I have worked on porting scipy to py3k, and it is mostly working. One
 thing which would be useful is to install something similar to
 npy_3kcompat.h in numpy, so that every scipy extension could share the
 compat header. Is the current python 3 compatibility header usable in
 the wild, or will it still significantly change (this requiring a
 different, more stable one) ?
 
 I believe it's reasonably stable, as it contains mostly simple stuff.
 Something perhaps can be added later, but I don't think anything will
 need to be removed.

Ok. If the C capsule stuff is still in flux, it may just be removed from 
the public header - I don't think we will need it anywhere in scipy.

 At least, I don't see what I would like to change there. The only thing
 I wouldn't perhaps like to have in the long run are the PyString and
 possibly PyInt redefinition macros.

I would also prefer a new name, instead of macro redefinition, but I can 
do it. The header would not be part of the public API proper anyway (I 
will put it somewhere else than numpy/include), it should never be 
pulled implicitly in when including one of the .h in numpy/include.

David
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