Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Bartosz Telenczuk]

> The footer appended by the mailing list shows that the name it’s right but 
> only the subject tag is wrong. It’s trivial to fix.

You are probably right, but I wouldn't like to mess up with people's mail 
filters (some of which may depend on the subject tag).

Cheers,

Bartosz
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Andrea Bedini]

> On 6 Sep 2016, at 8:05 PM, Bartosz Telenczuk  wrote:
> 
> The name of the mailing lists still conflicts with the practice, but perhaps 
> it would be more hassle to rename it than it's worth it. :)

The footer appended by the mailing list shows that the name it’s right but only 
the subject tag is wrong. It’s trivial to fix.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Bartosz Telenczuk]

Hi,

The general consensus seems to be in favour of using "NumPy" when referring to 
the project and "numpy" as a module name.

Please note that there are currently PRs in 3 different repositories 
implementing this practice:

- numpy docs: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/8021
- numpy.org website: https://github.com/numpy/numpy.org/pull/5
- Scipy Lecture Notes: 
https://github.com/scipy-lectures/scipy-lecture-notes/pull/265

The name of the mailing lists still conflicts with the practice, but perhaps it 
would be more hassle to rename it than it's worth it. :). There is also some 
instances of "Numpy" spelling in numpy sources, but changing them would 
probably need more care and time.

If everyone agrees the PRs could be merged together. Please review and comment!

Thanks in advance,

Bartosz
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Sebastian Berg]

On Di, 2016-08-30 at 12:17 -0700, Stefan van der Walt wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016, at 04:43, m...@telenczuk.pl wrote:
> > 
> > The documentation is not consistent and it mixes both NumPy and
> > Numpy.
> > For example, the reference manual uses both spellings in the
> > introduction
> > paragraph (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/reference/):
> > 
> > "This reference manual details functions, modules, and objects
> > included in Numpy, describing what they are and what they do.
> > For
> > learning how to use NumPy, see also NumPy User Guide."
> That's technically a bug: the official spelling is NumPy.  But, no
> one
> really cares :)
> 

I like the fact that this is all posted in: [Numpy-discussion] ;).

- Sebastian

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Stefan van der Walt]

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016, at 04:43, m...@telenczuk.pl wrote:
> The documentation is not consistent and it mixes both NumPy and Numpy.
> For example, the reference manual uses both spellings in the introduction
> paragraph (http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/reference/):
> 
> "This reference manual details functions, modules, and objects
> included in Numpy, describing what they are and what they do. For
> learning how to use NumPy, see also NumPy User Guide."

That's technically a bug: the official spelling is NumPy.  But, no one
really cares :)

Stéfan

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Benjamin Root]

There was similar discussion almost two years ago with respect to
capitalization of matplotlib in prose. Most of the time, it was lower-case
in our documentation, but then the question was if it should be upper-case
at the beginning of the sentence... or should it always be upper-cased like
a proper noun. I don't think a clear consensus was reached, but I ended up
treating it as a proper noun in my book.

I am also pretty sure I used "NumPy" in most places, even for "NumPy
arrays", which still looks weird to me when I go back over my book.

Ben Root


On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:56 PM,  wrote:

> https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/scipy-user/2010-June/025756.html
>
> "NumPy and SciPy to refer to the projects. numpy and scipy to refer to
> the packages, specifically. When in doubt, use the former."
>
> I thought there was also another discussion about capital letters, but
> I don't find it.
>
> Josef
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Bartosz Telenczuk 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would not mind any choice as long as it's consistent.
> >
> > I agree that using all-lowercase spelling may avoid some common errors.
> However,
> > PEP8 requires all module/package names to be lower case [1].  If we
> force the
> > name of the library and the corresponding package to be the same, all
> Python
> > libraries would be named in lowercase. This would not be the best choice
> for
> > libraries, which have multi-component names (like NumPy = Numerical
> Python).
> >
> > Note also that both the Wikipedia page [2] and the official NumPy logo
> [3] use
> > "NumPy" spelling.
> >
> > Some other popular [4] libraries use similar dichotomies:
> >
> > - Django - import django
> > - Cython - import cython
> > - PyYAML - import yaml
> > - scikit-learn - import sklearn
> >
> > On the other hand all standard Python libraries are lower-case named.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bartosz
> >
> > [1] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#package-and-module-names
> > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NumPy
> > [3] http://www.numpy.org/_static/numpy_logo.png
> > [4] http://pypi-ranking.info/alltime
> >
> >> On 08/29/2016 07:43 AM, m...@telenczuk.pl wrote:
> >> > What is the official spelling of NumPy/Numpy/numpy?
> >>
> >> IMHO it should be written numpy, because ...
> >>
> >>  >>> import NumPy
> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>File "", line 1, in 
> >> ImportError: No module named NumPy
> >>  >>> import Numpy
> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>File "", line 1, in 
> >> ImportError: No module named Numpy
> >>  >>> import numpy
> >>  >>>
> >>
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[josef . pktd]

https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/scipy-user/2010-June/025756.html

"NumPy and SciPy to refer to the projects. numpy and scipy to refer to
the packages, specifically. When in doubt, use the former."

I thought there was also another discussion about capital letters, but
I don't find it.

Josef


On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Bartosz Telenczuk  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would not mind any choice as long as it's consistent.
>
> I agree that using all-lowercase spelling may avoid some common errors. 
> However,
> PEP8 requires all module/package names to be lower case [1].  If we force the
> name of the library and the corresponding package to be the same, all Python
> libraries would be named in lowercase. This would not be the best choice for
> libraries, which have multi-component names (like NumPy = Numerical Python).
>
> Note also that both the Wikipedia page [2] and the official NumPy logo [3] use
> "NumPy" spelling.
>
> Some other popular [4] libraries use similar dichotomies:
>
> - Django - import django
> - Cython - import cython
> - PyYAML - import yaml
> - scikit-learn - import sklearn
>
> On the other hand all standard Python libraries are lower-case named.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bartosz
>
> [1] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#package-and-module-names
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NumPy
> [3] http://www.numpy.org/_static/numpy_logo.png
> [4] http://pypi-ranking.info/alltime
>
>> On 08/29/2016 07:43 AM, m...@telenczuk.pl wrote:
>> > What is the official spelling of NumPy/Numpy/numpy?
>>
>> IMHO it should be written numpy, because ...
>>
>>  >>> import NumPy
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>File "", line 1, in 
>> ImportError: No module named NumPy
>>  >>> import Numpy
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>File "", line 1, in 
>> ImportError: No module named Numpy
>>  >>> import numpy
>>  >>>
>>
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Bartosz Telenczuk]

Hi,

I would not mind any choice as long as it's consistent.

I agree that using all-lowercase spelling may avoid some common errors. However,
PEP8 requires all module/package names to be lower case [1].  If we force the
name of the library and the corresponding package to be the same, all Python
libraries would be named in lowercase. This would not be the best choice for
libraries, which have multi-component names (like NumPy = Numerical Python).

Note also that both the Wikipedia page [2] and the official NumPy logo [3] use
"NumPy" spelling.

Some other popular [4] libraries use similar dichotomies:

- Django - import django
- Cython - import cython
- PyYAML - import yaml
- scikit-learn - import sklearn

On the other hand all standard Python libraries are lower-case named.

Cheers,

Bartosz

[1] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#package-and-module-names
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NumPy
[3] http://www.numpy.org/_static/numpy_logo.png
[4] http://pypi-ranking.info/alltime

> On 08/29/2016 07:43 AM, m...@telenczuk.pl wrote:
> > What is the official spelling of NumPy/Numpy/numpy?
> 
> IMHO it should be written numpy, because ...
> 
>  >>> import NumPy
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "", line 1, in 
> ImportError: No module named NumPy
>  >>> import Numpy
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "", line 1, in 
> ImportError: No module named Numpy
>  >>> import numpy
>  >>>
> 
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Which NumPy/Numpy/numpy spelling?

[Phil Hodge]

On 08/29/2016 07:43 AM, m...@telenczuk.pl wrote:

What is the official spelling of NumPy/Numpy/numpy?


IMHO it should be written numpy, because ...

>>> import NumPy
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
ImportError: No module named NumPy
>>> import Numpy
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
ImportError: No module named Numpy
>>> import numpy
>>>

Phil
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