Re: [Nut-upsuser] nut problem on boot/restart

[Arnaud Quette]

hi

2011/5/14 pepe jose 

>  Hi Aquette,
>

please, let my login name for computers...
call me either Arnaud, Arnaud Quette, ... ;-)


> Thank you very much for responding.
>
> I try to up a bit more NUT's ranking with $ sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S50nut
> /etc/rc2.d/s99nut as you say.
>

does it mean that you confirm your issue is fixed?

cheers,
Arnaud
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] nut problem on boot/restart

[pepe jose]

Hi Aquette, 

Thank you very much for responding.

I try to up a bit more NUT's ranking with $ sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S50nut 
/etc/rc2.d/s99nut as you say.
thanks!
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 22:27:54 +0200
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] nut problem on boot/restart
From: aquette@gmail.com
To: dynami...@hotmail.com
CC: nut-upsuser@lists.alioth.debian.org

Hi,

2011/5/8 pepe jose 










hi!
When I turn on my pc everything works fine, but if I restart fails (I'm not 
sure if this is true at 100%)(then, i can do 'sudo /etc/init.d/nut restart' and 
it works)

But what is certain is that sometimes when start up the pc it works and 
sometimes fails. It seems like attempting to use the USB bus before it has 
initialized.
how I can fix this? thanks so much!

my setup:core i5, SSD corsair, 8GB ram, msi p67a-gd65Ubuntu 11.04 64bitNUT v2.6 
deb from ubuntuUPS Soyntec Sekury C 800 USB
syslog:
Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsd[1251]: listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493Apr 30 
21:58:16 tron upsd[1251]: Can't connect to UPS [soyntec] (blazer_usb-soyntec): 
No such file or directoryApr 30 21:58:16 tron upsd[1253]: Startup successful
Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsmon[1256]: Startup successfulApr 30 21:58:16 tron 
upsd[1253]: User monuser 127.0.0.1 logged into UPS [soyntec]Apr 30 21:58:16 
tron upsmon[1259]: Poll UPS [soyntec localhost] failed - Driver not connected
Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsmon[1259]: Communications with UPS soyntec localhost 
lost
output (sudo /lib/nut/blazer_usb -D -a soyntec) attached


as per your provided info, this indeed resemble to a udev related issue.
this is quite probably due to the upstart + sysV mix that is in use in natty, 
with udev being an upstart job, while nut is still a sysV (compatibility) one.

I've sadly not had time to install an actual natty, and pbuilder disable udev.

the final solution will come with NUT conversion to upstart (I had a session at 
the UDS today on that).
for the time being, you can try to up a bit more NUT's ranking by doing:

$ sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S50nut /etc/rc2.d/s99nut
and check if the situation has improved.
I'll give a word tomorrow to upstart developers on this.

cheers,
Arnaud (from UDS Budapest)
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Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/

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Re: [Nut-upsuser] nut problem on boot/restart

[Arnaud Quette]

Hi,

2011/5/8 pepe jose 

>  hi!
>
> When I turn on my pc everything works fine, but if I restart fails (I'm not
> sure if this is true at 100%)(then, i can do 'sudo /etc/init.d/nut restart'
> and it works)
>
> But what is certain is that sometimes when start up the pc it works and
> sometimes fails. It seems like attempting to use the USB bus before it has
> initialized.
>
> how I can fix this? thanks so much!
>
> my setup:
> core i5, SSD corsair, 8GB ram, msi p67a-gd65
> Ubuntu 11.04 64bit
> NUT v2.6 deb from ubuntu
> UPS Soyntec Sekury C 800 USB
>
> syslog:
> Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsd[1251]: listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
> Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsd[1251]: Can't connect to UPS [soyntec]
> (blazer_usb-soyntec): No such file or directory
> Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsd[1253]: Startup successful
> Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsmon[1256]: Startup successful
> Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsd[1253]: User monuser 127.0.0.1 logged into UPS
> [soyntec]
> Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsmon[1259]: Poll UPS [soyntec localhost] failed -
> Driver not connected
> Apr 30 21:58:16 tron upsmon[1259]: Communications with UPS soyntec
> localhost lost
>
> output (sudo /lib/nut/blazer_usb -D -a soyntec) 
> attached
>

as per your provided info, this indeed resemble to a udev related issue.
this is quite probably due to the upstart + sysV mix that is in use in
natty, with udev being an upstart job, while nut is still a sysV
(compatibility) one.
I've sadly not had time to install an actual natty, and pbuilder disable
udev.

the final solution will come with NUT conversion to upstart (I had a session
at the UDS today on that).
for the time being, you can try to up a bit more NUT's ranking by doing:
$ sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S50nut /etc/rc2.d/s99nut

and check if the situation has improved.
I'll give a word tomorrow to upstart developers on this.

cheers,
Arnaud (from UDS Budapest)
-- 
Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://powerquality.eaton.com
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] nut problem on boot/restart

[Jose Álvarez]

sorry, I realized that no kept well linebreaks when I had sent the message 

> This usually means that you're attempting to use the USB bus before it
> has initialized.

how I can fix this?
thanks so much!


> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:38:51 +0200
> From: nut+us...@de-korte.org
> To: nut-upsuser@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] nut problem on boot/restart
>
> Citeren Jose Álvarez :
>
> > When I turn on my pc everything works fine, but if I restart fails
> > (I'm not sure if this is true at 100%) (then, i can do 'sudo
> > /etc/init.d/nut restart' and it works)
>
> This usually means that you're attempting to use the USB bus before it
> has initialized.
>
> > But what is certain is that sometimes when start up the pc it works
> > and sometimes fails, can be a problem with the start time (i have a
> > fast ssd) and the initialization of the driver and the usb port?
>
> The latter.
>
> [...]
>
> Don't inline log files. The formatting will usually not be preserved
> and they become very hard to read. Please attach log messages (and
> preferably, gzip them too to save bandwidth and prevent the
> mailinglist from rejecting them because of size).
>
> Best regards, Arjen
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Re: [Nut-upsuser] nut problem on boot/restart

[Arjen de Korte]

Citeren Jose Álvarez :

When I turn on my pc everything works fine, but if I restart fails  
(I'm not sure if this is true at 100%) (then, i can do 'sudo  
/etc/init.d/nut restart' and it works)


This usually means that you're attempting to use the USB bus before it  
has initialized.


But what is certain is that sometimes when start up the pc it works  
and sometimes fails, can be a problem with the start time (i have a  
fast ssd) and the initialization of the driver and the usb port?


The latter.

[...]

Don't inline log files. The formatting will usually not be preserved  
and they become very hard to read. Please attach log messages (and  
preferably, gzip them too to save bandwidth and prevent the  
mailinglist from rejecting them because of size).


Best regards, Arjen
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