how can i fetch a site manual

2007-07-11 Thread Cuongnhc

hi everyone,
i'm writing searcher engine for blog, i've got a problem when getting info
of bloger.
1. i use filter to make sure nutch only take a profile site of this one.
2. i generate dynamic blog,feed... links by myself and use some function in
nutch to take it content
3. collect all info of this one and update to profile's datum.
everything is ok, but i want nutch fetch all the site i got when taking info
of this person too (able to search late. eg: blog page...). anyone can help
me to solve it. i've try to use this codes in "private ParseStatus output"
function (fetcher.java) on my new data: key2,datum2... but still fetch
nothing.

output.collect
 (key2,
  new FetcherOutput(datum2,
storingContent ? content2 : null,
parse2 != null ? new ParseImpl(parse2) :
null));

thanks for any advices.


[jira] Commented: (NUTCH-505) Outlink urls should be validated

2007-07-11 Thread Hudson (JIRA)

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Hudson commented on NUTCH-505:
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Integrated in Nutch-Nightly #147 (See 
[http://lucene.zones.apache.org:8080/hudson/job/Nutch-Nightly/147/])

> Outlink urls should be validated
> 
>
> Key: NUTCH-505
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-505
> Project: Nutch
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Doğacan Güney
>Assignee: Doğacan Güney
>Priority: Minor
> Fix For: 1.0.0
>
> Attachments: NUTCH-505.patch, NUTCH-505.patch, NUTCH-505_draft.patch, 
> NUTCH-505_draft_v2.patch
>
>
> See discussion here:
> http://www.nabble.com/fetching-http%3A--www.variety.com-%3C-div%3E%3C-a%3E-tf3961692.html
> Parse plugins may extract garbage urls from pages. We need a url validation 
> system that tests these urls and filters out garbage.

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[jira] Commented: (NUTCH-510) IndexMerger delete working dir

2007-07-11 Thread Hudson (JIRA)

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Hudson commented on NUTCH-510:
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Integrated in Nutch-Nightly #147 (See 
[http://lucene.zones.apache.org:8080/hudson/job/Nutch-Nightly/147/])

> IndexMerger delete working dir
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>
> Key: NUTCH-510
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-510
> Project: Nutch
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: indexer
>Affects Versions: 1.0.0
>Reporter: Enis Soztutar
>Assignee: Doğacan Güney
> Fix For: 1.0.0
>
> Attachments: index.merger.delete.temp.dirs.patch
>
>
> IndexMerger does not delete the working dir when an IOException is thrown 
> such as No space left on device. Local temporary directories should be 
> deleted. 

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Re: OPIC scoring differences

2007-07-11 Thread Andrzej Bialecki

Doğacan Güney wrote:


Andrzej, nice to see you working on this.

There is one thing that I don't understand about your presentation.
Assume that page A is the only url in our crawldb and it contains n
outlinks.

t = 0 - Generate runs, A is generated.

t = 1 - Page A is fetched and its cash is distributed to its outlinks.

t = 2 - Generate runs, pages P0-Pn are generated.

t = 3 - P0 - Pn are fetched and their cash are distributed to their 
outlinks.

- At this time, it is possible that page Pk links to page A.
So, now Page A's cash > 0.

t = 4 - Generate runs, page A is considered but is not generated
(since its next fetch time is later than current time).
- Won't page A become a temporary sink? Time between
subsequent fetches may be as large as 30 days in default
configuration. So, page A will accumulate cash for a long time without
distributing it.


Yes. That's why Abiteboul used history (several cycles long) to smooth 
out temporary imbalances in cache redistribution. The history component 
described in the paper could be either several cycles long, or specific 
period of time long.


In our case I think the history for rarely updated pages should span the 
db.max.interval period plus some, and for frequently updated pages it 
should span several cycles.



- I don't see how we can achieve that, but, IMO, if a page is
considered but not generated, nutch should distribute its cash to
outlinks the outlinks that are stored in its parse data. (I know that
this is incredibly hard (if not impossible) to do this.)


Actually we store outlinks in two places - one place is obviously the 
segments. The other less obvious place is the linkdb - the data is 
there, it just needs to be inverted (again).


So, theoretically, we could modify the updatedb process to consider the 
complete webgraph, i.e. all link information collected so far - but the 
main attractiveness of OPIC is that it's incremental, so that you don't 
have to consider the whole webgraph with small incremental updates.



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[jira] Closed: (NUTCH-510) IndexMerger delete working dir

2007-07-11 Thread JIRA

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Doğacan Güney closed NUTCH-510.
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Issue resolved and committed.

> IndexMerger delete working dir
> --
>
> Key: NUTCH-510
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-510
> Project: Nutch
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: indexer
>Affects Versions: 1.0.0
>Reporter: Enis Soztutar
>Assignee: Doğacan Güney
> Fix For: 1.0.0
>
> Attachments: index.merger.delete.temp.dirs.patch
>
>
> IndexMerger does not delete the working dir when an IOException is thrown 
> such as No space left on device. Local temporary directories should be 
> deleted. 

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[jira] Resolved: (NUTCH-510) IndexMerger delete working dir

2007-07-11 Thread JIRA

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Doğacan Güney resolved NUTCH-510.
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Resolution: Fixed
  Assignee: Doğacan Güney

Committed in rev. 555307 with style modifications. I also removed two useless 
log guards in IndexMerger.

> IndexMerger delete working dir
> --
>
> Key: NUTCH-510
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-510
> Project: Nutch
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: indexer
>Affects Versions: 1.0.0
>Reporter: Enis Soztutar
>Assignee: Doğacan Güney
> Fix For: 1.0.0
>
> Attachments: index.merger.delete.temp.dirs.patch
>
>
> IndexMerger does not delete the working dir when an IOException is thrown 
> such as No space left on device. Local temporary directories should be 
> deleted. 

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Re: OPIC scoring differences

2007-07-11 Thread Doğacan Güney

On 7/9/07, Andrzej Bialecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Carl Cerecke wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The docs for the OPICScoringFilter mention that the plugin implements a
> variant of OPIC from Artiboul et al's paper. What exactly is different?
> How does the difference affect the scores?

As it is now, the implementation doesn't preserve the total "cash value"
in the system, and also there is almost no smoothing between the
iterations (Abiteboul's "history").

As a consequence, scores may (and do) vary dramatically between
iterations, and they don't converge to stable values, i.e. they always
increase. For pages that get a lot of score contributions from other
pages this leads to an explosive increase into the range of thousands or
eventually millions. This means that the scores produced by the OPIC
plugin exaggerate score differences between pages more and more, even if
the web graph that you crawl is stable.

In a sense, to follow the "cash" analogy, our implementation of OPIC
illustrates a runaway economy - galloping inflation, rich get richer and
poor get poorer ;)


> Also, there's a comment in the code:
>
> // XXX (ab) no adjustment? I think this is contrary to the algorithm descr.
> // XXX in the paper, where page "loses" its score if it's distributed to
> // XXX linked pages...
>
> Is this something that will be looked at eventually or is the scoring
> "good enough" at the moment without some "adjustment".

Yes, I'll start working on it when I get back from vacations. I did some
simulations that show how to fix it (see
http://wiki.apache.org/nutch/FixingOpicScoring bottom of the page).


Andrzej, nice to see you working on this.

There is one thing that I don't understand about your presentation.
Assume that page A is the only url in our crawldb and it contains n
outlinks.

t = 0 - Generate runs, A is generated.

t = 1 - Page A is fetched and its cash is distributed to its outlinks.

t = 2 - Generate runs, pages P0-Pn are generated.

t = 3 - P0 - Pn are fetched and their cash are distributed to their outlinks.
- At this time, it is possible that page Pk links to page A.
So, now Page A's cash > 0.

t = 4 - Generate runs, page A is considered but is not generated
(since its next fetch time is later than current time).
- Won't page A become a temporary sink? Time between
subsequent fetches may be as large as 30 days in default
configuration. So, page A will accumulate cash for a long time without
distributing it.
- I don't see how we can achieve that, but, IMO, if a page is
considered but not generated, nutch should distribute its cash to
outlinks the outlinks that are stored in its parse data. (I know that
this is incredibly hard (if not impossible) to do this.)

Or am I missing something here?



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[jira] Updated: (NUTCH-506) Nutch should delegate compression to Hadoop

2007-07-11 Thread JIRA

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Doğacan Güney updated NUTCH-506:


Attachment: NUTCH-506.patch

New version. I missed ProtocolStatus and ParseStatus. This patch updates them 
in a backward-compatible way.

> Nutch should delegate compression to Hadoop
> ---
>
> Key: NUTCH-506
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-506
> Project: Nutch
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Doğacan Güney
> Fix For: 1.0.0
>
> Attachments: compress.patch, NUTCH-506.patch
>
>
> Some data structures within nutch (such as Content, ParseText) handle their 
> own compression. We should delegate all compressions to Hadoop. 
> Also, nutch should respect io.seqfile.compression.type setting. Currently 
> even if io.seqfile.compression.type is BLOCK or RECORD, nutch overrides it 
> for some structures and sets it to NONE (However, IMO, ParseText should 
> always be compressed as RECORD because of performance reasons).

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[jira] Resolved: (NUTCH-505) Outlink urls should be validated

2007-07-11 Thread JIRA

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Doğacan Güney resolved NUTCH-505.
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   Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version/s: 1.0.0
 Assignee: Doğacan Güney

Committed in rev. 555237.

> Outlink urls should be validated
> 
>
> Key: NUTCH-505
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-505
> Project: Nutch
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Doğacan Güney
>Assignee: Doğacan Güney
>Priority: Minor
> Fix For: 1.0.0
>
> Attachments: NUTCH-505.patch, NUTCH-505.patch, NUTCH-505_draft.patch, 
> NUTCH-505_draft_v2.patch
>
>
> See discussion here:
> http://www.nabble.com/fetching-http%3A--www.variety.com-%3C-div%3E%3C-a%3E-tf3961692.html
> Parse plugins may extract garbage urls from pages. We need a url validation 
> system that tests these urls and filters out garbage.

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