[nycwireless] RE: OT: Ethernet Vs. Coaxial for Home Wiring
Michael Stearne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did write on Tue Jan 10 15:15: "I figured wireless people do have a lot of experience with wires also. ... A friend of wants to wire a new construction house and says he is using coaxial cable instead of Cat5/6 ethernet. Is there an advantage to using coaxial (I'm sure speed) but Cat5/6 can do gigabit eithernet. I would think this is more than enough speed for a home user for the forseeable future. What are the advatages of coaxial? Thanks, Michael" -- Often times a resident or home owner will find themselves with existing, sometimes excessive coaxial cabling, either from an earlier pre-build or due to abandonment of the cable by a previous cable tv service providre. In either case there are opportunities to re-use the existing cables for Ethernet in lieu of laying new Category 5 or 6 through the use of adapters that meet industry requirements. Coaxsys is one such outfit making these adapters, and there are several others of note. You can read about this approach in the following article from Broadband Properties Magazine: Campus-Wide IP Television and VoIP By Ted Archer, Coaxsys http://www.broadbandproperties.com/2005issues/jul05issues/archer_july.pdf While this particular article focuses on campuses, the same principles and the same types of adapters apply to residential dwellings, as well. You may wish to make note of this BBP publication, since it is fast rising as one of the premier publications that focus on home- and municipal- networking of all types. As to the question of the amount of speed that is 'enough', I ask that you draw a trend line of the bandwidth that you've had at your disposal over the past ten years or so, and then you tell me how much you'll need in the next two or three. Frank ps - note - this is my second attempt at posting this article -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] OT: Ethernet Vs. Coaxial for Home Wiring
On 1/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Your friend is smoking ajax. > > > > Ethernet is cheap, easy to install, available equipment. > > > > Coax you can use either for CATV or for DS3 (or if you are smoking a lot > > of ajax, 10base5). Each of those is really not appealing option. > Sorry, I have to correct myself. > > If this is a MTU/MDU (as in, a house with lot of tenants), it may be > possible to use DOCSIS or HPNA over coax. (basically, running your own > cable plant and using same equipment cable company does). Benefit is you > have less wires (basically one long wire with splitters). Downside is that > you need more expensive CPE and termination gear. > > But, if I assumed correctly, its a private house - it makes no sense. > C'mon, its 21st century, rock out with ribbon single-mode cable! ;) It is a private home and I was more inclined to use Ethernet but I didn't know about Coaxial so I didn't say anything really. I will let my friend's father he is smoking ajax. :-) Thanks for the info, Michael -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] OT: Ethernet Vs. Coaxial for Home Wiring
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your friend is smoking ajax. > > Ethernet is cheap, easy to install, available equipment. > > Coax you can use either for CATV or for DS3 (or if you are smoking a lot > of ajax, 10base5). Each of those is really not appealing option. Sorry, I have to correct myself. If this is a MTU/MDU (as in, a house with lot of tenants), it may be possible to use DOCSIS or HPNA over coax. (basically, running your own cable plant and using same equipment cable company does). Benefit is you have less wires (basically one long wire with splitters). Downside is that you need more expensive CPE and termination gear. But, if I assumed correctly, its a private house - it makes no sense. C'mon, its 21st century, rock out with ribbon single-mode cable! ;) -alex -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] OT: Ethernet Vs. Coaxial for Home Wiring
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Michael Stearne wrote: > I figured wireless people do have a lot of experience with wires also. > > A friend of wants to wire a new construction house and says he is using > coaxial cable instead of Cat5/6 ethernet. Is there an advantage to using > coaxial (I'm sure speed) but Cat5/6 can do gigabit eithernet. > I would think this is more than enough speed for a home user for the > forseeable future. What are the advatages of coaxial? Your friend is smoking ajax. Ethernet is cheap, easy to install, available equipment. Coax you can use either for CATV or for DS3 (or if you are smoking a lot of ajax, 10base5). Each of those is really not appealing option. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] OT: Ethernet Vs. Coaxial for Home Wiring
I figured wireless people do have a lot of experience with wires also. A friend of wants to wire a new construction house and says he is using coaxial cable instead of Cat5/6 ethernet. Is there an advantage to using coaxial (I'm sure speed) but Cat5/6 can do gigabit eithernet. I would think this is more than enough speed for a home user for the forseeable future. What are the advatages of coaxial? Thanks, Michael -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
Jim, Perhaps you should do a bit more research. The PFF is well known to rely on half-truths and misrepresentations of fact to support their anti-municipal agenda. Free Press has released a white paper that provides the whole story, and if you look at government broadband initiatives, they are overwhelmingly cost saving and beneficial to local communities. http://www.freepress.net/docs/mb_white_paper.pdf Also, PFF's supporters include (and are primarily) every incumbent telecom and cable company: http://www.pff.org/about/supporters.html While this isn't a problem in and of itself, it should make you wonder where their views and motivations are coming from. Dana Spiegel Executive Director NYCwireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.NYCwireless.net +1 917 402 0422 Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Jim Henry wrote: Here's an interesting study on government going into the telecom business. http://www.pff.org/issues-pubs/pops/pop11.3govtownership.pdf Jim -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
