Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Census THIS WEEKEND

2006-08-15 Thread Dana Spiegel
Awesome! I won't be around, but please take photos, and keep  
documentation! This is huge!


Also, do you know how you're going to gather people's data?


Dana Spiegel
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On Aug 15, 2006, at 5:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good news. Our "Wireless Census" of Manhattan is back on track. Our  
four units should be arriving this week.


Each unit will include:
* an Orinoco Gold wifi card PCMCIA in a USB chassis)
* a Garmin GPS 18 sensor with a serial interface
* a serial-usb adapter (for the Garmin)
* a 7dbi magnetic roof mount wifi antenna
* a power inverter for car

Please let me know offline if you're available to do a route THIS  
WEEKEND.
Each surveyor (or surveying team) will need to provide a laptop  
(Mac, PC, Linux) with either two USB ports or a Serial/PCMCIA  
combination.


Questions:
1. What days and time are good for you? (Friday night to Monday)
2. What zipcodes are good for you?
3. Do you have a laptop?
4. Do you have a car?
5. Are there other folks you know?
6. How confident are you in being able to participate?

If we get enough takers, I'll try to schedule a training session to
walk through configuring a laptop with the peripherals.

So let me know via email.

Rob Kelley
NYCwireless.net








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[nycwireless] Wireless Census THIS WEEKEND

2006-08-15 Thread rob
Good news. Our "Wireless Census" of Manhattan is back on track. Our  
four units should be arriving this week.


Each unit will include:
* an Orinoco Gold wifi card PCMCIA in a USB chassis)
* a Garmin GPS 18 sensor with a serial interface
* a serial-usb adapter (for the Garmin)
* a 7dbi magnetic roof mount wifi antenna
* a power inverter for car

Please let me know offline if you're available to do a route THIS WEEKEND.
Each surveyor (or surveying team) will need to provide a laptop (Mac,  
PC, Linux) with either two USB ports or a Serial/PCMCIA combination.


Questions:
1. What days and time are good for you? (Friday night to Monday)
2. What zipcodes are good for you?
3. Do you have a laptop?
4. Do you have a car?
5. Are there other folks you know?
6. How confident are you in being able to participate?

If we get enough takers, I'll try to schedule a training session to
walk through configuring a laptop with the peripherals.

So let me know via email.

Rob Kelley
NYCwireless.net








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Re: [nycwireless] Kit followup: which setup?

2006-08-15 Thread vortex

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



My question: for optimal reception, is it better to have a 
highpowered  card with a basic antenna (senao) or a lower powered card 
with an  excellent antenna (orinoco)?



i assume you want to use kismet or variant to passively scan and map the 
local network ecosystem.


most cards are rated for *transmission* power (because that's what's 
regulated by FCC/ETSI). the antenna will be your best ally rather than 
transmission strength. each anetenna sculpts it's own reception volume 
of space. for your usage, consider an omni-directional that creates a 
"donut" shaped reception zone, maybe specced at about 8-10dBi..


if you've got a team of participants, it will definitely be easier to 
calibrate and share results to map if everyone uses identical set-ups 
(same cards, length of pigtails, antennae - even car mount point for 
antenna). and cruising speed will affect results as well.


also, scanning software does eactly that - jumps and scans all channels. 
when you're listening to one channel, you can't listen to all the rest. 
programs such as kismet allow for multiple wlan devices to cut down on 
missed activity. mind you, that's gonna hit your budget.


if you do manage a setup with a laptop, usb hubs & 14 wlans, pigtails 
and antennae mounted in one car, i want the photos!!! :-)


hope this helps!

shine brightly,

.vortex




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[nycwireless] Kit followup: which setup?

2006-08-15 Thread rob

Hi:

I'm trying to settle on hardware for the upcoming wireless census and  
I have a question about wireless receivers.


We want something that'll work on the greatest range of laptops and  
OS'es (MAC, PC, Linux), so we're standardizing on USB connections (not  
serial or PCMCIA) and devices that'll work on all platforms.


I'm trying to decide between the Orinoco USB (~100mw) and the Senao  
USB (200mw):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orinoco-Gold-USB-powered-Wardriving-w-RP-SMA-NEW_W0QQitemZ120016738108QQihZ002QQcategoryZ61816QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=34250675&category=45002#ebayphotohosting

My question: for optimal reception, is it better to have a highpowered  
card with a basic antenna (senao) or a lower powered card with an  
excellent antenna (orinoco)?


Help appreciated!

Rob

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