Re: [nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe
For me, power has been MORE important than connectivity. I can check my email with my phone, but if I need to work on something I need my laptop which needs power. This became more important as my laptop's batteries aged. And then of course, what if your phone's dead. You don't need wi-fi, you need power. Power is the salt lick... Circulation can be an issue (alt.coffee), but it can made a non-issue (put the outlets under the counter like at Coliseum Books). I'd be curious for some ballpark statistics about the penny cost of powering a laptop for 15 minutes. I might be willing to pay for the outlet, but I'd be happier doing what I do now: offsetting the cost with some frothy frou-frou coffee drink. Rob --- "Hammond, Robin-David%KB3IEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not a bad idea. esp the shade one, with summer comming and all. > > Complementary power outlets seem to be a thorny issue, if coffee > shops > provide ready access to power, hotspots become areas of poor > circulation, > with all the issues that causes for buisness owners. > > I am curious: How many people reading this would be content using > free > wifi, but paying a hefty rate for the use of electricity (extending > your > indoor useage period beyond the life of your batteries), thereby > ensuring > that the buisness owners arn't penalized by allowing you access to > electricity? > > Anyone who NEEDs unblocked ports like tcp 25 can tunnel to thier home > > computer, or get a free shell. I dont want to see overly open APs > becoming > a source of anonymised spam. Blocked ports are probably a Good > Thing(tm) > but tracking who is responsable in this field (and who is not) may > help > boost awareness. > > Biggles! Fetch the comfy chair! > > > On Thu, 11 May 2006, Rob Kelley wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:13:22 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Rob Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > > Subject: [nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe > > > > > [http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/05/02/1951202.shtml?tid=39&tid=92 > ] > > > > Some of this article was obvious but most of it wasn't, especially > to Joe Coffeeshop owner. > > > > My big thing is power outlets. I like places where they're > pentiful and easy to get to. > > > > In fact, I always thought it'd be cool to carry these > not-so-obvious facts about a hotspot like: > > > > 1. Indoor? Outdoor? > > 2. Shade? > > 3. Comfy chairs? > > 4. Power outlets? > > 5. Blocked ports? > > 6. # Available seats (I go to places where there are a lot of > seats). > > > > What makes a good wi-fi cafe? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > > Un/Subscribe: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > > Some people are born mediocre, some people achieve mediocrity, and > some > people have mediocrity thrust upon them. > -- Joseph Heller, "Catch-22" > > > > Robin-David Hammond KB3IEN > www.aresnyc.org. > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe (fwd)
Not a bad idea. esp the shade one, with summer comming and all. Complementary power outlets seem to be a thorny issue, if coffee shops provide ready access to power, hotspots become areas of poor circulation, with all the issues that causes for buisness owners. I am curious: How many people reading this would be content using free wifi, but paying a hefty rate for the use of electricity (extending your indoor useage period beyond the life of your batteries), thereby ensuring that the buisness owners arn't penalized by allowing you access to electricity? Anyone who NEEDs unblocked ports like tcp 25 can tunnel to thier home computer, or get a free shell. I dont want to see overly open APs becoming a source of anonymised spam. Blocked ports are probably a Good Thing(tm) but tracking who is responsable in this field (and who is not) may help boost awareness. Biggles! Fetch the comfy chair! On Thu, 11 May 2006, Rob Kelley wrote: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: [nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe [http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/05/02/1951202.shtml?tid=39&tid=92 ] Some of this article was obvious but most of it wasn't, especially to Joe Coffeeshop owner. My big thing is power outlets. I like places where they're pentiful and easy to get to. In fact, I always thought it'd be cool to carry these not-so-obvious facts about a hotspot like: 1. Indoor? Outdoor? 2. Shade? 3. Comfy chairs? 4. Power outlets? 5. Blocked ports? 6. # Available seats (I go to places where there are a lot of seats). What makes a good wi-fi cafe? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ Some people are born mediocre, some people achieve mediocrity, and some people have mediocrity thrust upon them. -- Joseph Heller, "Catch-22" Robin-David Hammond KB3IEN www.aresnyc.org. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe
You can use Wi-Fi Thank You for this. http://www.wifithankyou.com Dana Spiegel Executive Director NYCwireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.NYCwireless.net +1 917 402 0422 Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info On May 11, 2006, at 11:34 PM, Kevin Mark wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 08:30:01PM -0400, Jon Baer wrote: 7. Good music It would be pretty nice to have something like the NYCWireless Cafe of the Month/Year or some type of award (or spotlight) that recognizes a coffee shop for it's excellence in making the WiFi junkie feel most @ home. Id personally nominate the Tea Lounge on Union in Brooklyn. - Jon Hi, How about a page to submit a review of a wifi spot? and then have it added to a zipcode-based search. Cheers, Kev - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEZAItv8UcC1qRZVMRArdWAJ4o0+ENZIkPDOn0FdusPq4tNerLHACfT0xi UoWkhUrHW9UH/Yjkf+XIBO8= =gnAK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 08:30:01PM -0400, Jon Baer wrote: > 7. Good music > > It would be pretty nice to have something like the NYCWireless Cafe > of the Month/Year or some type of award (or spotlight) that > recognizes a coffee shop for it's excellence in making the WiFi > junkie feel most @ home. Id personally nominate the Tea Lounge on > Union in Brooklyn. > > - Jon Hi, How about a page to submit a review of a wifi spot? and then have it added to a zipcode-based search. Cheers, Kev - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEZAItv8UcC1qRZVMRArdWAJ4o0+ENZIkPDOn0FdusPq4tNerLHACfT0xi UoWkhUrHW9UH/Yjkf+XIBO8= =gnAK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe
7. Good music It would be pretty nice to have something like the NYCWireless Cafe of the Month/Year or some type of award (or spotlight) that recognizes a coffee shop for it's excellence in making the WiFi junkie feel most @ home. Id personally nominate the Tea Lounge on Union in Brooklyn. - Jon On May 11, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Rob Kelley wrote: [http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/05/02/1951202.shtml? tid=39&tid=92 ] Some of this article was obvious but most of it wasn't, especially to Joe Coffeeshop owner. My big thing is power outlets. I like places where they're pentiful and easy to get to. In fact, I always thought it'd be cool to carry these not-so- obvious facts about a hotspot like: 1. Indoor? Outdoor? 2. Shade? 3. Comfy chairs? 4. Power outlets? 5. Blocked ports? 6. # Available seats (I go to places where there are a lot of seats). What makes a good wi-fi cafe? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Article: The right way to run a Wi-Fi cafe
[http://business.newsforge.com/business/06/05/02/1951202.shtml?tid=39&tid=92 ] Some of this article was obvious but most of it wasn't, especially to Joe Coffeeshop owner. My big thing is power outlets. I like places where they're pentiful and easy to get to. In fact, I always thought it'd be cool to carry these not-so-obvious facts about a hotspot like: 1. Indoor? Outdoor? 2. Shade? 3. Comfy chairs? 4. Power outlets? 5. Blocked ports? 6. # Available seats (I go to places where there are a lot of seats). What makes a good wi-fi cafe? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
