[nycwireless] BellSouth wants new Net Fees

2006-01-17 Thread Dana Spiegel
Posted on: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info/2006/01/17/bellsouth- 
wants-new-net-fees-2/


According to an article on MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/ 
news/story.asp?guid=%7B02432D2D-1EE0-4037-A15F-54B748D6CF26%7D):


BellSouth Corp. confirmed Monday that it is pursuing discussions  
with

Internet content companies to levy charges to reliably and speedily
deliver their content and services.

Bill Smith, chief technology officer at BellSouth, justified  
content

charging companies by saying they are using the telco’s network
without paying for it.

Higher usage for broadband services drives more costs that we have
to recover, he said in a telephone interview.

He suggested that Apple Computer might be asked to pay a nickel  
or a
dime to insure the complete and rapid transmission of a song via  
the

Internet, which is being used for more and more content-intensive
purposes. He cited Yahoo Inc.’s plans to stream reality TV shows  
as an

example.

It’s the shipping business of the digital age, Smith said,  
arguing

that consumers should welcome the pay-for-delivery concept.

So, let me get this straight. Right now, I buy my internet service  
from an ISP, and while that ISP doesn’t guarantee that I will be able  
to access every single site, they do ensure that I am able to get  
onto the internet completely, and that any generally available web  
page will be available to me. This is the definition of how the  
internet works. This also means that if Apple’s iTunes online store  
is online and generally accessible, it will be accessible to me just  
like anyone else on the internet.


Now, Bill Smith and BellSouth are saying that, maybe, if I use  
BellSouth as my ISP, I won’t be able to get at any generally  
available internet site that hasn’t paid them to access their network— 
a network for which I’m already paying a monthly fee. They are saying  
that, just because I’ve paid them $50 or $100 for internet access,  
that this fee doesn’t give me access to the internet in general? They  
are saying that, once I’ve paid them to access their “pipes”, that I  
should have no expectation to be able to get to any website that I  
want, or get service from a third party at best-effort broadband speeds?


Normally, such a statement is just hot air, since BellSouth just  
provides the last mile. But they are the provider of most internet  
connections in the southeast. And Verizon and ATT (SBC) have been  
saying the same thing, and they actually control the pipes that make  
up the infrastructure of the internet.


So, if Apple doesn’t play along, does that mean that Verizon and ATT  
will start refusing to carry their traffic on the internet’s  
backbone, thereby affecting many more people than just Verizon and  
ATT customers?


Seems like this is a great time for the FTC (not even the FCC) to  
step in. If this were any other industry, this would be considered  
extortion and racketeering, both very serious crimes in our country.



Dana Spiegel
Executive Director
NYCwireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.NYCwireless.net
+1 917 402 0422

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Re: [nycwireless] BellSouth wants new Net Fees

2006-01-17 Thread Dustin Goodwin
Getting your broadband provider to support the NYCwireless Network 
Neutrality Broadband Challenge is becoming more important with each 
passing day. If your a independent broadband provider that wants to 
allow customers unfettered access to the content of their choosing 
please visit our challenge homepage right away.

http://www.nycwireless.net/tiki-index.php?page=BroadbandChallenge

My provider is Speakeasy.net... hello anyone listening at Speakeasy?

So far only our friends Bway.net have responded. Keep an eye on the 
result on our scorecard page: 
http://www.nycwireless.net/tiki-index.php?page=BroadbandChallengeScoreCard.


- Dustin -


Dana Spiegel wrote:

Posted on: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info/2006/01/17/bellsouth- 
wants-new-net-fees-2/


According to an article on MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/ 
news/story.asp?guid=%7B02432D2D-1EE0-4037-A15F-54B748D6CF26%7D):


BellSouth Corp. confirmed Monday that it is pursuing discussions  
with

Internet content companies to levy charges to reliably and speedily
deliver their content and services.

Bill Smith, chief technology officer at BellSouth, justified  content
charging companies by saying they are using the telco’s network
without paying for it.

Higher usage for broadband services drives more costs that we have
to recover, he said in a telephone interview.

He suggested that Apple Computer might be asked to pay a nickel  or a
dime to insure the complete and rapid transmission of a song via  the
Internet, which is being used for more and more content-intensive
purposes. He cited Yahoo Inc.’s plans to stream reality TV shows  
as an

example.

It’s the shipping business of the digital age, Smith said,  arguing
that consumers should welcome the pay-for-delivery concept.

So, let me get this straight. Right now, I buy my internet service  
from an ISP, and while that ISP doesn’t guarantee that I will be able  
to access every single site, they do ensure that I am able to get  
onto the internet completely, and that any generally available web  
page will be available to me. This is the definition of how the  
internet works. This also means that if Apple’s iTunes online store  
is online and generally accessible, it will be accessible to me just  
like anyone else on the internet.


Now, Bill Smith and BellSouth are saying that, maybe, if I use  
BellSouth as my ISP, I won’t be able to get at any generally  
available internet site that hasn’t paid them to access their network— 
a network for which I’m already paying a monthly fee. They are saying  
that, just because I’ve paid them $50 or $100 for internet access,  
that this fee doesn’t give me access to the internet in general? They  
are saying that, once I’ve paid them to access their “pipes”, that I  
should have no expectation to be able to get to any website that I  
want, or get service from a third party at best-effort broadband speeds?


Normally, such a statement is just hot air, since BellSouth just  
provides the last mile. But they are the provider of most internet  
connections in the southeast. And Verizon and ATT (SBC) have been  
saying the same thing, and they actually control the pipes that make  
up the infrastructure of the internet.


So, if Apple doesn’t play along, does that mean that Verizon and ATT  
will start refusing to carry their traffic on the internet’s  
backbone, thereby affecting many more people than just Verizon and  
ATT customers?


Seems like this is a great time for the FTC (not even the FCC) to  
step in. If this were any other industry, this would be considered  
extortion and racketeering, both very serious crimes in our country.



Dana Spiegel
Executive Director
NYCwireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.NYCwireless.net
+1 917 402 0422

Read the Wireless Community blog: http://www.wirelesscommunity.info


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