Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: IP: FBI probing 'war chalking'?
Just as an FYI, Dave Farber was the Chief Scientist at the FCC, as well as a VERY well-respected technology/techo professor at UPenn (I believe). His list has such people as Esther Dyson, Nick Negroponte and a *lot* of other tech-sphere bigwigs. He only sends out legit stuff. :) RMT. On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 09:09 AM, R. Lonstein wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 01:20:45AM -0400, rick m. tait wrote: >> You guys might be interested in reading this.. FBI now on >> our backs? >> >> [ From Dave Farber's Interesting People list ] >> > [snip] > > I'm a bit skeptical of forwarded messages, but if it is genuine, it > merely indicates that the FBI culls the mainstream media for technology > trends. Interestingly, the risks are identified somewhat > matter-of-factly which would suggest that the author is not trying to > make a point or bolster a position but to convey the information. Seems > innocuous in and of itself but it remains to be seen what it made of > it, > particularly by the companies most opposed to wireless efforts. > > - Ross > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: IP: FBI probing 'war chalking'?
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 01:20:45AM -0400, rick m. tait wrote: > You guys might be interested in reading this.. FBI now on > our backs? > > [ From Dave Farber's Interesting People list ] > [snip] I'm a bit skeptical of forwarded messages, but if it is genuine, it merely indicates that the FBI culls the mainstream media for technology trends. Interestingly, the risks are identified somewhat matter-of-factly which would suggest that the author is not trying to make a point or bolster a position but to convey the information. Seems innocuous in and of itself but it remains to be seen what it made of it, particularly by the companies most opposed to wireless efforts. - Ross -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
FW: [nycwireless] Fwd: IP: FBI probing 'war chalking'?
It was gonna happen. But im not too worried. At the moment, the FBI has bigger fish to fry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of rick m. tait Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [nycwireless] Fwd: IP: FBI probing 'war chalking'? You guys might be interested in reading this.. FBI now on our backs? [ From Dave Farber's Interesting People list ] RMT. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dave Farber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:37:37 PM America/New_York > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: IP: FBI probing 'war chalking'? > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: "Jim Thompson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 8/13/02 4:26:03 PM > To: "Dave Farber"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: FBI probing 'war chalking'? > > > There is an Special Agent named "Bill Shore" in the Pittsburgh field > office. I've spoken to him, this is his. He forwarded it to an > 'infoguard' list > > Forwarded by my local Time-Warner/Road Runner 'insider'. > > Jim > > -- > > From:Bill Shore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent:Monday, July 08, 2002 9:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Wireless networks - Warchalking/Wardriving > > > It has recently been brought to my attention that individuals/groups > have been actively working in the Pittsburgh area as well as other > areas > of the United States including Philadelphia, and Boston, and the rest > of > the world for that matter, to identify locations where wireless > networks > are implemented. This is done by a technique identified as > "Wardriving." Wardriving is accomplished by driving around in a vehicle > using a laptop computer equipped with appropriate hardware and software > http://www.netstumbler.com/ to identify wireless networks used in > commercial and/or residential areas. Upon identifying a wireless > network, the access point can be marked with a coded symbol, or > "warchalked." This symbol will alert others of the presence of a > wireless network. The network can then be accessed with the proper > equipment and utilized by the individual(s) to access the Internet, > download email, and potentially compromise your systems. In > Pittsburgh, > the individuals are essentially attempting to map the entire city to > identify the wireless access points, see here, > > > http://mapserver.zhrodague.net/cgi- > bin/mapserv?mode=browse&layer=all&layer=q > uadsheets&layer=borough&layer=roads&layer=ap&zoomdir=1&zoomsize=2&imgxy > =458+ > 165&imgext=-80.175489+40.268422+- > 79.733217+40.621536&map=%2Fmnt%2Fhog%2Fwebs > ites%2Fmapserver%2Fpublic_html%2Fpa%2Fpgh.map&savequery=true&program=%2 > Fcgi- > bin%2Fmapserv&map_web_imagepath=%2Fmnt%2Fhog%2Fwebsites%2Fmapserver%2Fp > ublic > _html%2Ftmp%2F&map_web_imageurl=%2Ftmp%2F&img.x=250&img.y=197. > > > Also, check this article from pghwireless.com, > http://www.pghwireless.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19 > > Identifying the presence of a wireless network may not be a criminal > violation, however, there may be criminal violations if the network is > actually accessed including theft of services, interception of > communications, misuse of computing resources, up to and including > violations of the Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Statute, Theft of > Trade Secrets, and other federal violations. At this point, I am not > aware of any malicious activity that has been reported to the FBI here > in Pittsburgh, however, you are cautioned regarding this activity if > you > have implemented a wireless network in your business. You are also > highly encouraged to implement appropriate wireless security practices > to protect your information assets, > http://www.cert.org/research/isw/isw2001/papers/Kabara-31-08.pdf > > There are several articles available with additional details including > http://www.warchalking.org as well as http://www.pghwireless.com. A > copy of the coding symbols is attached in .pdf format. If you notice > these symbols at your place of business, it is likely your network has > > > [Message truncated. Tap Edit->Mark for Download to get remaining > portion.] > > For archives see: > http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: IP: FBI probing 'war chalking'?
You guys might be interested in reading this.. FBI now on our backs? [ From Dave Farber's Interesting People list ] RMT. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dave Farber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:37:37 PM America/New_York > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: IP: FBI probing 'war chalking'? > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: "Jim Thompson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 8/13/02 4:26:03 PM > To: "Dave Farber"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: FBI probing 'war chalking'? > > > There is an Special Agent named "Bill Shore" in the Pittsburgh field > office. I've spoken to him, this is his. He forwarded it to an > 'infoguard' list > > Forwarded by my local Time-Warner/Road Runner 'insider'. > > Jim > > -- > > From:Bill Shore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent:Monday, July 08, 2002 9:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Wireless networks - Warchalking/Wardriving > > > It has recently been brought to my attention that individuals/groups > have been actively working in the Pittsburgh area as well as other > areas > of the United States including Philadelphia, and Boston, and the rest > of > the world for that matter, to identify locations where wireless > networks > are implemented. This is done by a technique identified as > "Wardriving." Wardriving is accomplished by driving around in a vehicle > using a laptop computer equipped with appropriate hardware and software > http://www.netstumbler.com/ to identify wireless networks used in > commercial and/or residential areas. Upon identifying a wireless > network, the access point can be marked with a coded symbol, or > "warchalked." This symbol will alert others of the presence of a > wireless network. The network can then be accessed with the proper > equipment and utilized by the individual(s) to access the Internet, > download email, and potentially compromise your systems. In > Pittsburgh, > the individuals are essentially attempting to map the entire city to > identify the wireless access points, see here, > > > http://mapserver.zhrodague.net/cgi- > bin/mapserv?mode=browse&layer=all&layer=q > uadsheets&layer=borough&layer=roads&layer=ap&zoomdir=1&zoomsize=2&imgxy > =458+ > 165&imgext=-80.175489+40.268422+- > 79.733217+40.621536&map=%2Fmnt%2Fhog%2Fwebs > ites%2Fmapserver%2Fpublic_html%2Fpa%2Fpgh.map&savequery=true&program=%2 > Fcgi- > bin%2Fmapserv&map_web_imagepath=%2Fmnt%2Fhog%2Fwebsites%2Fmapserver%2Fp > ublic > _html%2Ftmp%2F&map_web_imageurl=%2Ftmp%2F&img.x=250&img.y=197. > > > Also, check this article from pghwireless.com, > http://www.pghwireless.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19 > > Identifying the presence of a wireless network may not be a criminal > violation, however, there may be criminal violations if the network is > actually accessed including theft of services, interception of > communications, misuse of computing resources, up to and including > violations of the Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Statute, Theft of > Trade Secrets, and other federal violations. At this point, I am not > aware of any malicious activity that has been reported to the FBI here > in Pittsburgh, however, you are cautioned regarding this activity if > you > have implemented a wireless network in your business. You are also > highly encouraged to implement appropriate wireless security practices > to protect your information assets, > http://www.cert.org/research/isw/isw2001/papers/Kabara-31-08.pdf > > There are several articles available with additional details including > http://www.warchalking.org as well as http://www.pghwireless.com. A > copy of the coding symbols is attached in .pdf format. If you notice > these symbols at your place of business, it is likely your network has > > > [Message truncated. Tap Edit->Mark for Download to get remaining > portion.] > > For archives see: > http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
