[nysbirds-l] Buff-breasted Sandpiper, RN Phalarope - Jones Beach 9/7 (Nassau Co)

[Brendan Fogarty]

Hi all,
You know about the phalarope, but there were also three Buff-breasted 
Sandpipers at the swale. Seen with Mike Zito just before 7pm.
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[nysbirds-l] Buff-breasted Sandpiper, RN Phalarope - Jones Beach 9/7 (Nassau Co)

[Brendan Fogarty]

Hi all,
You know about the phalarope, but there were also three Buff-breasted 
Sandpipers at the swale. Seen with Mike Zito just before 7pm.
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31472671

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach

[John Mora]

Hi - the bird was still there at far end of pond at sunset.

Very active.  

Thanks Deborah for the trailblazing roadmap.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Deborah Martin  wrote:
> 
> Should have credited GlennWilson with the find! Thanks, Glenn 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Deborah Martin 
>> Date: September 7, 2016 at 4:38:16 PM EDT
>> To: NYSbirds-L 
>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach
>> Reply-To: Deborah Martin 
>> 
>> Currently swimming in the pond with the blind between west end 1/nature 
>> center and west end 2-Jones Beach, LI 
>> Much more water here than Sunday and some other shorebirds in the distance.  
>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach

[John Mora]

Hi - the bird was still there at far end of pond at sunset.

Very active.  

Thanks Deborah for the trailblazing roadmap.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Deborah Martin  wrote:
> 
> Should have credited GlennWilson with the find! Thanks, Glenn 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Deborah Martin 
>> Date: September 7, 2016 at 4:38:16 PM EDT
>> To: NYSbirds-L 
>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach
>> Reply-To: Deborah Martin 
>> 
>> Currently swimming in the pond with the blind between west end 1/nature 
>> center and west end 2-Jones Beach, LI 
>> Much more water here than Sunday and some other shorebirds in the distance.  
>> 
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Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach

[Deborah Martin]

Should have credited GlennWilson with the find! Thanks, Glenn 

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Deborah Martin 
> Date: September 7, 2016 at 4:38:16 PM EDT
> To: NYSbirds-L 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach
> Reply-To: Deborah Martin 
> 
> Currently swimming in the pond with the blind between west end 1/nature 
> center and west end 2-Jones Beach, LI 
> Much more water here than Sunday and some other shorebirds in the distance.  
> 
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Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach

[Deborah Martin]

Should have credited GlennWilson with the find! Thanks, Glenn 

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Deborah Martin 
> Date: September 7, 2016 at 4:38:16 PM EDT
> To: NYSbirds-L 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach
> Reply-To: Deborah Martin 
> 
> Currently swimming in the pond with the blind between west end 1/nature 
> center and west end 2-Jones Beach, LI 
> Much more water here than Sunday and some other shorebirds in the distance.  
> 
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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach

[Deborah Martin]

Currently swimming in the pond with the blind between west end 1/nature center 
and west end 2-Jones Beach, LI 
Much more water here than Sunday and some other shorebirds in the distance.  

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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Jones Beach

[Deborah Martin]

Currently swimming in the pond with the blind between west end 1/nature center 
and west end 2-Jones Beach, LI 
Much more water here than Sunday and some other shorebirds in the distance.  

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[nysbirds-l] W. 46th Street Pocket Park

[Amy Simmons]

Location:  W. 46th Street, NYC (between 5th & 6th Ave.)

Date:  Wednesday, 9/7/16, 2 - 2:30 pm

Observer:  Amy Simmons


A new migrant for the pocket park today:  American Redstart.  Brings the park 
total to 23 species since folks started recording birds at this location last 
year.  Also present were two Ovenbird, two Common Yellowthroat and the 
lingering juvenile American Robin.


(Still waiting for one of those Red-breasted Nuthatches to show up...)


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[nysbirds-l] W. 46th Street Pocket Park

[Amy Simmons]

Location:  W. 46th Street, NYC (between 5th & 6th Ave.)

Date:  Wednesday, 9/7/16, 2 - 2:30 pm

Observer:  Amy Simmons


A new migrant for the pocket park today:  American Redstart.  Brings the park 
total to 23 species since folks started recording birds at this location last 
year.  Also present were two Ovenbird, two Common Yellowthroat and the 
lingering juvenile American Robin.


(Still waiting for one of those Red-breasted Nuthatches to show up...)


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[nysbirds-l] Birding Hermine on Long Island, 5 Sep

[Shaibal Mitra]

I’m writing this summary to tie together a number of overlapping but incomplete 
conversations with many people over the past several days, and to draw a few 
conclusions from what we observed.

I’ll remember Hermine most for how much she inconvenienced us with her timing! 
It seemed like it took forever for the storm to arrive, and by the time things 
became interesting, I was facing early morning drives to work on Staten Island 
on Tuesday and today. Still her prolonged gyrations offshore were probably 
responsible for some notable and memorable bird records.

First, it’s important to note that the overall pattern exemplified by Hermine 
is very commonplace here: a middling tropical cyclone approaching from the 
south, producing easterly winds and heavy surf on the LI shore, then passing 
off to the east. Taken broadly, these events are very characteristic of the 
Labor Day period here. One can generally expect to see increased occurrence of 
species such as American Golden-Plover, Buff-breasted Sandpiper (and other 
long-distance migrant sandpipers), Lesser Black-backed Gull, and Caspian and 
Black Terns in these situations—presumably because they are reluctant to 
continue their long flights under these conditions and arriving migrants 
therefore accumulate along our ocean inlets. This phenomenon was a very 
conspicuous consequence of Hermine, probably due especially to the unusual 
duration of the obstacle she posed to southbound migration.

Another feature of these periods of easterly winds is a pronounced movement of 
common seabirds, especially Common Terns and Laughing Gulls, but also things 
like Northern Gannet and Cory’s Shearwater, flying west to east along the LI 
shoreline as storms approach from the south. I’ve never seen a fully 
satisfactory explanation for this phenomenon, but I’m aware of two conjectures. 
One is that “birds always fly into the wind.” This makes sense not only in its 
almost absurd simplicity, but also to the extent that some species might simply 
be compensating for being drifted east to west overnight. The other hypothesis 
is my own and posits that the local seabirds know exactly where they are and 
also where the local shorelines are, and they respond to approaching storms by 
fleeing to the east to avoid being driven ashore by hurricanes. (This is 
potentially consistent with the previous explanation, which could be the 
proximate cue underlying this ultimate cause.) Part of my reasoning in support 
of this explanation is the marked disparity in groundings of various pelagic 
species during real hurricane strikes (which Hermine categorically was NOT), 
wherein locally rare species of distant origin are paradoxically found inland 
far more frequently than the their common kin inhabiting the nearby shelf 
waters (e.g., Leach’s vs. Wilson’s Storm-Petrels and many others). It is really 
remarkable that our commonest shelf-inhabiting seabirds (Cory’s, Great, and 
Manx Shearwaters, etc.) are almost never recorded inland, whereas a number of 
tropical and Gulf Stream Species are actually predictably regular inland after 
strong storms.

Hermine was not a strong storm here and did not come close to striking us, but 
it was very interesting to see the classic pre-storm procession of Gannets, 
Cory’s Shearwaters, Laughing Gulls, and Common Terns streaming eastward as she 
approached. Furthermore, we could actually discern when this changed on Monday. 
Whereas the flight was still very pronounced from west to east during the 
morning, it shifted the other way in the early afternoon. The wind also shifted 
at this time, losing its easterly component and going almost during north, 
presumably as the storm center shifted somewhat to the north and east.

Birding with Patricia Lindsay, Pete Morris and Taylor Sturm, my overall 
impression was that Hermine was a very good example of Labor Day easterly 
winds: we encountered lots of White-rumped Sandpipers (and other interesting 
shorebirds), Lesser Black-backed Gulls (including a very early juvenile), and 
Black Terns, as well as notable near-shore movements of Cory’s and Manx 
Shearwaters, Northern Gannets, and Parasitic Jaegers—all species expected to be 
present in the region already but harder to detect under normal conditions.

In view of all of this, Black-capped Petrel was not expected, but perhaps the 
unusually long duration of the powerful winds as Hermine lingered over the Gulf 
Stream tired or disoriented some of the birds residing there. Below are links 
to our checklists from Monday. It was a very interesting and rewarding day but 
definitely slow at times. More than once, after hitting a slow period, we 
vacillated between focusing on seabirds vs. shorebirds, only to encounter new 
surprises that shifted our expectations.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31453098
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31453339
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31453442

[nysbirds-l] Birding Hermine on Long Island, 5 Sep

[Shaibal Mitra]

I’m writing this summary to tie together a number of overlapping but incomplete 
conversations with many people over the past several days, and to draw a few 
conclusions from what we observed.

I’ll remember Hermine most for how much she inconvenienced us with her timing! 
It seemed like it took forever for the storm to arrive, and by the time things 
became interesting, I was facing early morning drives to work on Staten Island 
on Tuesday and today. Still her prolonged gyrations offshore were probably 
responsible for some notable and memorable bird records.

First, it’s important to note that the overall pattern exemplified by Hermine 
is very commonplace here: a middling tropical cyclone approaching from the 
south, producing easterly winds and heavy surf on the LI shore, then passing 
off to the east. Taken broadly, these events are very characteristic of the 
Labor Day period here. One can generally expect to see increased occurrence of 
species such as American Golden-Plover, Buff-breasted Sandpiper (and other 
long-distance migrant sandpipers), Lesser Black-backed Gull, and Caspian and 
Black Terns in these situations—presumably because they are reluctant to 
continue their long flights under these conditions and arriving migrants 
therefore accumulate along our ocean inlets. This phenomenon was a very 
conspicuous consequence of Hermine, probably due especially to the unusual 
duration of the obstacle she posed to southbound migration.

Another feature of these periods of easterly winds is a pronounced movement of 
common seabirds, especially Common Terns and Laughing Gulls, but also things 
like Northern Gannet and Cory’s Shearwater, flying west to east along the LI 
shoreline as storms approach from the south. I’ve never seen a fully 
satisfactory explanation for this phenomenon, but I’m aware of two conjectures. 
One is that “birds always fly into the wind.” This makes sense not only in its 
almost absurd simplicity, but also to the extent that some species might simply 
be compensating for being drifted east to west overnight. The other hypothesis 
is my own and posits that the local seabirds know exactly where they are and 
also where the local shorelines are, and they respond to approaching storms by 
fleeing to the east to avoid being driven ashore by hurricanes. (This is 
potentially consistent with the previous explanation, which could be the 
proximate cue underlying this ultimate cause.) Part of my reasoning in support 
of this explanation is the marked disparity in groundings of various pelagic 
species during real hurricane strikes (which Hermine categorically was NOT), 
wherein locally rare species of distant origin are paradoxically found inland 
far more frequently than the their common kin inhabiting the nearby shelf 
waters (e.g., Leach’s vs. Wilson’s Storm-Petrels and many others). It is really 
remarkable that our commonest shelf-inhabiting seabirds (Cory’s, Great, and 
Manx Shearwaters, etc.) are almost never recorded inland, whereas a number of 
tropical and Gulf Stream Species are actually predictably regular inland after 
strong storms.

Hermine was not a strong storm here and did not come close to striking us, but 
it was very interesting to see the classic pre-storm procession of Gannets, 
Cory’s Shearwaters, Laughing Gulls, and Common Terns streaming eastward as she 
approached. Furthermore, we could actually discern when this changed on Monday. 
Whereas the flight was still very pronounced from west to east during the 
morning, it shifted the other way in the early afternoon. The wind also shifted 
at this time, losing its easterly component and going almost during north, 
presumably as the storm center shifted somewhat to the north and east.

Birding with Patricia Lindsay, Pete Morris and Taylor Sturm, my overall 
impression was that Hermine was a very good example of Labor Day easterly 
winds: we encountered lots of White-rumped Sandpipers (and other interesting 
shorebirds), Lesser Black-backed Gulls (including a very early juvenile), and 
Black Terns, as well as notable near-shore movements of Cory’s and Manx 
Shearwaters, Northern Gannets, and Parasitic Jaegers—all species expected to be 
present in the region already but harder to detect under normal conditions.

In view of all of this, Black-capped Petrel was not expected, but perhaps the 
unusually long duration of the powerful winds as Hermine lingered over the Gulf 
Stream tired or disoriented some of the birds residing there. Below are links 
to our checklists from Monday. It was a very interesting and rewarding day but 
definitely slow at times. More than once, after hitting a slow period, we 
vacillated between focusing on seabirds vs. shorebirds, only to encounter new 
surprises that shifted our expectations.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31453098
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31453339
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S31453442

[nysbirds-l] Jones beach ponds.

[Glenn Wilson]

I found them. Some insect found me and LOVES to bite. Anyway, there is a 
RED-NECKED PHALAROPE right in front of the blind and 100s of peeps in the back 
seen from the blind. They look mostly to be one species. least maybe. 

Glenn Wilson
Endicott, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Jones beach ponds.

[Glenn Wilson]

I found them. Some insect found me and LOVES to bite. Anyway, there is a 
RED-NECKED PHALAROPE right in front of the blind and 100s of peeps in the back 
seen from the blind. They look mostly to be one species. least maybe. 

Glenn Wilson
Endicott, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Marine Nature Study Area, Oceanside

[syschiff]

Oceanside 7 September

Cloudy morning with not much activity. But, we managed to see both a SEASIDE 
and SALTMARSH SPARROW.   A GREEN HERON popped up. a very pretty breeding 
plumage BLACK-BELLIED PLOVER, some SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERS, GREATER YELLOWLEGS, 
a number of PEEP and a single AMERICAN OYSTERCATCHER were present. A number of 
FORSTER'S TERNS are still around.

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[nysbirds-l] Marine Nature Study Area, Oceanside

[syschiff]

Oceanside 7 September

Cloudy morning with not much activity. But, we managed to see both a SEASIDE 
and SALTMARSH SPARROW.   A GREEN HERON popped up. a very pretty breeding 
plumage BLACK-BELLIED PLOVER, some SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERS, GREATER YELLOWLEGS, 
a number of PEEP and a single AMERICAN OYSTERCATCHER were present. A number of 
FORSTER'S TERNS are still around.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Jade Fallon]

Some info in this doc.

http://riverhead.municipalcms.com/docview.aspx?docid=33077

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:40 PM, leormand .  wrote:

> I'll try and check some tax maps
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM Mike  wrote:
>
>> My understanding was that the area north of Rt 25 was part of the
>> Calverton National Cemetary and that was just a matter of time before the
>> Cemetary expanded into those fields.  Hopefully  your info is correct.
>>
>> Mike Cooper
>> Ridge, LI
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, leorm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Here is the link to the subdivision map:
>>
>> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620
>>
>> Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming
>> to those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:
>>
>> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339
>>
>> Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm
>> not an expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL
>> currently.
>>
>> Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar
>> station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a
>> grassland.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted
>> anywhere for public review?
>>
>> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the
>> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that
>> we are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
>>
>> Thanks again Luke.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved
>>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands
>>> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.
>>>
>>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with
>>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come
>>> at a much later date.
>>>
>>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer
>>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway.
>>>
>>> Anyone have more info?
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>>
>>> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
>>> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
>>> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
>>> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
>>> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
>>> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-
>>> acres-in-calverton/
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
>>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
>>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>>
>>> 風 Swift as the wind
>>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>>> 山 Steady as the mountain
>>> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
>>> 
>>>
>>> (\__/)
>>> (= '.'=)
>>>
>>> (") _ (")
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Baksh
>>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>>> --
>>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>
>> 風 Swift as the wind
>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>> 山 Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
>> 
>>
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>>
>> (") _ (")
>>
>>
>> Andrew Baksh
>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Jade Fallon]

Some info in this doc.

http://riverhead.municipalcms.com/docview.aspx?docid=33077

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:40 PM, leormand .  wrote:

> I'll try and check some tax maps
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM Mike  wrote:
>
>> My understanding was that the area north of Rt 25 was part of the
>> Calverton National Cemetary and that was just a matter of time before the
>> Cemetary expanded into those fields.  Hopefully  your info is correct.
>>
>> Mike Cooper
>> Ridge, LI
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, leorm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Here is the link to the subdivision map:
>>
>> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620
>>
>> Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming
>> to those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:
>>
>> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339
>>
>> Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm
>> not an expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL
>> currently.
>>
>> Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar
>> station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a
>> grassland.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted
>> anywhere for public review?
>>
>> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the
>> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that
>> we are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
>>
>> Thanks again Luke.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved
>>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands
>>> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.
>>>
>>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with
>>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come
>>> at a much later date.
>>>
>>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer
>>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway.
>>>
>>> Anyone have more info?
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>>
>>> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
>>> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
>>> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
>>> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
>>> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
>>> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-
>>> acres-in-calverton/
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
>>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
>>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>>
>>> 風 Swift as the wind
>>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>>> 山 Steady as the mountain
>>> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
>>> 
>>>
>>> (\__/)
>>> (= '.'=)
>>>
>>> (") _ (")
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Baksh
>>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>>> --
>>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>>> Welcome and Basics 
>>> Rules and Information 
>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>>> 
>>> *Archives:*
>>> The Mail Archive
>>> 
>>> Surfbirds 
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>>> *Please submit your observations to **eBird*
>>> *!*
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>
>> 風 Swift as the wind
>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>> 山 Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
>> 
>>
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>>
>> (") _ (")
>>
>>
>> Andrew Baksh
>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>>
>> --
>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>> Welcome and Basics 
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>> 
>> *Archives:*
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[leormand .]

I'll try and check some tax maps
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM Mike  wrote:

> My understanding was that the area north of Rt 25 was part of the
> Calverton National Cemetary and that was just a matter of time before the
> Cemetary expanded into those fields.  Hopefully  your info is correct.
>
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, leorm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Here is the link to the subdivision map:
>
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620
>
> Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming to
> those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:
>
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339
>
> Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm
> not an expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL
> currently.
>
> Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar
> station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a
> grassland.
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>
> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted
> anywhere for public review?
>
> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the
> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that
> we are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
>
> Thanks again Luke.
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved
>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands
>> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.
>>
>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with
>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come
>> at a much later date.
>>
>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer
>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway.
>>
>> Anyone have more info?
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>
>> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
>> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
>> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
>> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
>> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
>> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
>>
>> --
>>
>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>
>> 風 Swift as the wind
>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>> 山 Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
>> 
>>
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>>
>> (") _ (")
>>
>>
>> Andrew Baksh
>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>> --
>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>> Welcome and Basics 
>> Rules and Information 
>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> 
>> *Archives:*
>> The Mail Archive
>> 
>> Surfbirds 
>> BirdingOnThe.Net 
>> *Please submit your observations to **eBird*
>> *!*
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest
> 火 Conquer like the fire
> 山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
> 
>
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
>
> (") _ (")
>
>
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>
> --
> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
> Welcome and Basics 
> Rules and Information 
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> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[leormand .]

I'll try and check some tax maps
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM Mike  wrote:

> My understanding was that the area north of Rt 25 was part of the
> Calverton National Cemetary and that was just a matter of time before the
> Cemetary expanded into those fields.  Hopefully  your info is correct.
>
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge, LI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, leorm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Here is the link to the subdivision map:
>
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620
>
> Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming to
> those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:
>
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339
>
> Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm
> not an expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL
> currently.
>
> Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar
> station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a
> grassland.
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>
> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted
> anywhere for public review?
>
> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the
> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that
> we are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
>
> Thanks again Luke.
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved
>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands
>> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.
>>
>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with
>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come
>> at a much later date.
>>
>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer
>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway.
>>
>> Anyone have more info?
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>
>> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
>> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
>> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
>> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
>> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
>> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
>>
>> --
>>
>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>
>> 風 Swift as the wind
>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>> 山 Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
>> 
>>
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>>
>> (") _ (")
>>
>>
>> Andrew Baksh
>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>> --
>> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
>> Welcome and Basics 
>> Rules and Information 
>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
>> 
>> *Archives:*
>> The Mail Archive
>> 
>> Surfbirds 
>> BirdingOnThe.Net 
>> *Please submit your observations to **eBird*
>> *!*
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest
> 火 Conquer like the fire
> 山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
> 
>
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
>
> (") _ (")
>
>
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>
> --
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Mike]

My understanding was that the area north of Rt 25 was part of the Calverton 
National Cemetary and that was just a matter of time before the Cemetary 
expanded into those fields.  Hopefully  your info is correct.  

Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, leorm...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Here is the link to the subdivision map:
> 
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620
> 
> Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming to 
> those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:
> 
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339
> 
> Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm not 
> an expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL 
> currently. 
> 
> Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar 
> station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a 
> grassland.  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted 
>> anywhere for public review?
>> 
>> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the 
>> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that we 
>> are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
>> 
>> Thanks again Luke.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved 
>>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands 
>>> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.  
>>> 
>>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with 
>>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come 
>>> at a much later date. 
>>> 
>>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer 
>>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway. 
>>> 
>>> Anyone have more info? 
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
 
 If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was 
 recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade 
 Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious 
 to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any 
 queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at 
 Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
 
 http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
 
 -- 
 
 "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the 
 ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own 
 abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
 
 風 Swift as the wind
 林　Quiet as the forest
 火　Conquer like the fire
 山　Steady as the mountain
 Sun Tzu  The Art of War
 
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
 
 Andrew Baksh
 www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
 --
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 Surfbirds
 BirdingOnThe.Net
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
>> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
>> Frederick Douglass
>> 
>> 風 Swift as the wind
>> 林　Quiet as the forest
>> 火　Conquer like the fire
>> 山　Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
>> 
>>> (\__/)
>>> (= '.'=)
>>> (") _ (") 
>> 
>> Andrew Baksh
>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
> --
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Mike]

My understanding was that the area north of Rt 25 was part of the Calverton 
National Cemetary and that was just a matter of time before the Cemetary 
expanded into those fields.  Hopefully  your info is correct.  

Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, leorm...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Here is the link to the subdivision map:
> 
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620
> 
> Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming to 
> those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:
> 
> http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339
> 
> Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm not 
> an expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL 
> currently. 
> 
> Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar 
> station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a 
> grassland.  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted 
>> anywhere for public review?
>> 
>> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the 
>> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that we 
>> are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
>> 
>> Thanks again Luke.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved 
>>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands 
>>> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.  
>>> 
>>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with 
>>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come 
>>> at a much later date. 
>>> 
>>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer 
>>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway. 
>>> 
>>> Anyone have more info? 
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
 
 If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was 
 recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade 
 Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious 
 to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any 
 queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at 
 Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
 
 http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
 
 -- 
 
 "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the 
 ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own 
 abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
 
 風 Swift as the wind
 林　Quiet as the forest
 火　Conquer like the fire
 山　Steady as the mountain
 Sun Tzu  The Art of War
 
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
 
 Andrew Baksh
 www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
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>> 風 Swift as the wind
>> 林　Quiet as the forest
>> 火　Conquer like the fire
>> 山　Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
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[nysbirds-l] Red-breasted Nuthatches in the Bronx

[Deborah Allen]

New York Botanical Garden, Bronx, NY
Wednesday September 7, 2016
OBS: Robert DeCandido, PhD

More evidence of a Red-breasted Nuthatch irruption:

This morning in two hours at the NYBG Bob observed 21 Red-breasted Nuthatches, 
including 10 in one Cedar of Lebanon just outside the Rock Garden. 

Conversely, yesterday on a visit to Bartow-Pell in Pelham Bay Park from 4-5PM 
none were observed in conifers in the area of the parking lot. 

On June 26th our bird walk group saw a Red-breasted Nuthatch at the Maintenance 
Field spotted by Jeff Ward. The day before (June 25th) we found two 
Red-breasted Nuthatches at the NYBG in the Bronx. These June reports certainly 
appear to have been an early indication of an irruption year. 

Hoping for Xbills,

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[nysbirds-l] Red-breasted Nuthatches in the Bronx

[Deborah Allen]

New York Botanical Garden, Bronx, NY
Wednesday September 7, 2016
OBS: Robert DeCandido, PhD

More evidence of a Red-breasted Nuthatch irruption:

This morning in two hours at the NYBG Bob observed 21 Red-breasted Nuthatches, 
including 10 in one Cedar of Lebanon just outside the Rock Garden. 

Conversely, yesterday on a visit to Bartow-Pell in Pelham Bay Park from 4-5PM 
none were observed in conifers in the area of the parking lot. 

On June 26th our bird walk group saw a Red-breasted Nuthatch at the Maintenance 
Field spotted by Jeff Ward. The day before (June 25th) we found two 
Red-breasted Nuthatches at the NYBG in the Bronx. These June reports certainly 
appear to have been an early indication of an irruption year. 

Hoping for Xbills,

Deb Allen

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[leormand]

Here is the link to the subdivision map:

http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620

Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming to 
those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:

http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339

Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm not an 
expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL currently. 

Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar 
station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a 
grassland.  



> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted 
> anywhere for public review?
> 
> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the 
> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that we 
> are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
> 
> Thanks again Luke.
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved 
>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands though 
>> it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.  
>> 
>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with 
>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come 
>> at a much later date. 
>> 
>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer 
>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway. 
>> 
>> Anyone have more info? 
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was 
>>> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade 
>>> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious 
>>> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any 
>>> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at 
>>> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the 
>>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own 
>>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>> 
>>> 風 Swift as the wind
>>> 林　Quiet as the forest
>>> 火　Conquer like the fire
>>> 山　Steady as the mountain
>>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
>>> 
 (\__/)
 (= '.'=)
 (") _ (") 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Baksh
>>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
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> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>> (") _ (") 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[leormand]

Here is the link to the subdivision map:

http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/docview.aspx?docid=44620

Here is the link to "all the documents" which is certainly overwhelming to 
those unfamiliar with the Ins and outs of these type of projects:

http://www.townofriverheadny.gov/pview.aspx?id=32339

Anyway with new / different / detailed information please chime in. I'm not an 
expert - this is just my understanding of where we are at with EPCAL currently. 

Also, keep in mind that the grasslands on the North side of 25 (old radar 
station) are preserved (I think by the state) and are actively managed as a 
grassland.  



> On Sep 7, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted 
> anywhere for public review?
> 
> If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the 
> community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that we 
> are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.
> 
> Thanks again Luke.
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:
>> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved 
>> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands though 
>> it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.  
>> 
>> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with 
>> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come 
>> at a much later date. 
>> 
>> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer 
>> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway. 
>> 
>> Anyone have more info? 
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was 
>>> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade 
>>> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious 
>>> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any 
>>> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at 
>>> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the 
>>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own 
>>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>> 
>>> 風 Swift as the wind
>>> 林　Quiet as the forest
>>> 火　Conquer like the fire
>>> 山　Steady as the mountain
>>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
>>> 
 (\__/)
 (= '.'=)
 (") _ (") 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Baksh
>>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>>> --
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
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> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>> (") _ (") 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

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[nysbirds-l] Sound Analysis Workshop, Ithaca NY, Oct 3-7, 2016

[Liz D. Rowland]

As the season for recording night flight calls is upon us, you might be 
interested in attending the upcoming Sound Analysis 
Workshop run by 
the Bioacoustics Research Program at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, NY 
from Monday October 3rd to Friday October 7th, 2016. This workshop covers basic 
principles of spectrographic analysis and measurement of animal sounds, as well 
as specific tools and techniques in Raven Pro. The workshop is intended 
primarily for biologists interested in analysis, visualization, and measurement 
of animal sounds. The standard fee is $1,400, but there is a discounted rate of 
$1,050 for registered students (Bachelors, Masters or PhD.). The fee covers 
tuition, lunches, and a complimentary 1-yr license for 
Raven. We currently 
have 3 places available.  More details can be found on the BRP 
homepage 
(Education & Outreach tab).

Please contact Liz Rowland, e...@cornell.edu if you're 
interested or have questions.



Liz Rowland
Research Analyst
Elephant Listening Project
+1 (607) 254-2136
Elephant Listening Project


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[nysbirds-l] Central Park, NYC 9/7

[Thomas Fiore]

Wednesday, 7 September, 2016 -
Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City

From about sunrise thru 8 a.m. or so, & also later in the morning, a  
Connecticut Warbler (seen on TUES) was looked-for, by at least a dozen  
birders, probably more, & apparently remained unseen by those I saw or  
spoke with on-site (location as in mine & Anders' posts for 9/6)  -  
although the bird may still be in the park & even perhaps in that same  
area of the park, but behaving a bit more (typically) skulking - seen  
this morning again in the same area have been some Common  
Yellowthroats and what seemed an even greater number of American  
Redstarts (which are more numerous this Wed., over all of the park  
than the prior days).


A fine variety of species are being seen this day by groups led by &  
for the NYC Audubon organization & by & for the American Museum of  
Natural History, both fine non-profit organizations worthy of our  
support.  Many highlights include the on-going sightings of very many  
Red-breasted Nuthatches, which have been occurring in this park - &  
throughout the NYC region and far beyond - for months now, with by now  
many hundreds of observations documented by at least that many  
observers, over more than a dozen states in the eastern U.S. (and in  
numbers in some instances that appear to be nearly unprecedented,  
outside of major irruptive movements).  Thanks to the many observers  
this morning offering comments, and efforts to seek out various birds.


For easy reference, & a gentle reminder, here are the American Birding  
Association's Code of Birding Ethics, which have been approved-of by  
thousands of the most reputable organizations including hundreds of  
birding clubs & conservation organizations throughout this hemisphere  
and elsewhere, and in principle by the American Ornithologists Union  
and many other scientific organizations, as well as responsible nature- 
loving individuals everywhere on the planet.  (For those unfamiliar  
with the code of ethics, please read at least the first paragraphs of  
the short document and use it as a simple guide to our responsible &  
respectful birding on a daily basis) - thank you. SEE http://listing.aba.org/ethics/


good birding,

Tom Fiore
Manhattan

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[nysbirds-l] Sound Analysis Workshop, Ithaca NY, Oct 3-7, 2016

[Liz D. Rowland]

As the season for recording night flight calls is upon us, you might be 
interested in attending the upcoming Sound Analysis 
Workshop run by 
the Bioacoustics Research Program at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, NY 
from Monday October 3rd to Friday October 7th, 2016. This workshop covers basic 
principles of spectrographic analysis and measurement of animal sounds, as well 
as specific tools and techniques in Raven Pro. The workshop is intended 
primarily for biologists interested in analysis, visualization, and measurement 
of animal sounds. The standard fee is $1,400, but there is a discounted rate of 
$1,050 for registered students (Bachelors, Masters or PhD.). The fee covers 
tuition, lunches, and a complimentary 1-yr license for 
Raven. We currently 
have 3 places available.  More details can be found on the BRP 
homepage 
(Education & Outreach tab).

Please contact Liz Rowland, e...@cornell.edu if you're 
interested or have questions.



Liz Rowland
Research Analyst
Elephant Listening Project
+1 (607) 254-2136
Elephant Listening Project


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[nysbirds-l] Central Park, NYC 9/7

[Thomas Fiore]

Wednesday, 7 September, 2016 -
Central Park, Manhattan, N.Y. City

From about sunrise thru 8 a.m. or so, & also later in the morning, a  
Connecticut Warbler (seen on TUES) was looked-for, by at least a dozen  
birders, probably more, & apparently remained unseen by those I saw or  
spoke with on-site (location as in mine & Anders' posts for 9/6)  -  
although the bird may still be in the park & even perhaps in that same  
area of the park, but behaving a bit more (typically) skulking - seen  
this morning again in the same area have been some Common  
Yellowthroats and what seemed an even greater number of American  
Redstarts (which are more numerous this Wed., over all of the park  
than the prior days).


A fine variety of species are being seen this day by groups led by &  
for the NYC Audubon organization & by & for the American Museum of  
Natural History, both fine non-profit organizations worthy of our  
support.  Many highlights include the on-going sightings of very many  
Red-breasted Nuthatches, which have been occurring in this park - &  
throughout the NYC region and far beyond - for months now, with by now  
many hundreds of observations documented by at least that many  
observers, over more than a dozen states in the eastern U.S. (and in  
numbers in some instances that appear to be nearly unprecedented,  
outside of major irruptive movements).  Thanks to the many observers  
this morning offering comments, and efforts to seek out various birds.


For easy reference, & a gentle reminder, here are the American Birding  
Association's Code of Birding Ethics, which have been approved-of by  
thousands of the most reputable organizations including hundreds of  
birding clubs & conservation organizations throughout this hemisphere  
and elsewhere, and in principle by the American Ornithologists Union  
and many other scientific organizations, as well as responsible nature- 
loving individuals everywhere on the planet.  (For those unfamiliar  
with the code of ethics, please read at least the first paragraphs of  
the short document and use it as a simple guide to our responsible &  
respectful birding on a daily basis) - thank you. SEE http://listing.aba.org/ethics/


good birding,

Tom Fiore
Manhattan

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Andrew Baksh]

Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted
anywhere for public review?

If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the
community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that
we are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.

Thanks again Luke.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:

> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved
> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands
> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.
>
> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with
> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come
> at a much later date.
>
> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer
> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway.
>
> Anyone have more info?
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>
> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>
> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-
> acres-in-calverton/
>
> --
>
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest
> 火 Conquer like the fire
> 山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
> 
>
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
>
> (") _ (")
>
>
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
> --
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>


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ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*


(\__/)
(= '.'=)

(") _ (")


Andrew Baksh
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Andrew Baksh]

Thank you for the quick and detailed response. Are these plans posted
anywhere for public review?

If anyone else has additional information, please do share with the
community. We ought to keep an eye on the developments over there so that
we are not scrambling to stave off any destruction of habitat.

Thanks again Luke.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:03 PM,  wrote:

> It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved
> subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands
> though it carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.
>
> I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with
> grasslands - the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come
> at a much later date.
>
> What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer
> "luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway.
>
> Anyone have more info?
>
> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>
> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
> recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
> Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
> to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
> queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
> Calverton.  Thanks in advance.
>
> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-
> acres-in-calverton/
>
> --
>
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest
> 火 Conquer like the fire
> 山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*
> 
>
> (\__/)
> (= '.'=)
>
> (") _ (")
>
>
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
> --
> *NYSbirds-L List Info:*
> Welcome and Basics 
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> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave
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風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[leormand]

It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved 
subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands though it 
carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.  

I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with grasslands 
- the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come at a much later 
date. 

What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer 
"luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway. 

Anyone have more info? 

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was recently 
> made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade Fallon. 
> Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious to know if 
> anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any queries as to what 
> this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at Calverton.  Thanks in 
> advance.
> 
> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
> 
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> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
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> Andrew Baksh
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[leormand]

It is my understanding that it goes in line with the recently approved 
subdivision. The subdivision preserves nearly all existing grasslands though it 
carves out some lots along the entrance/25A.  

I seem to recall that the runways will be ripped up and planted with grasslands 
- the hope is for a driving / walking trail but that would come at a much later 
date. 

What I don't know is how this all fits in with the "drone" manufacturer 
"luminati" which of courses utilizes the eastern runway. 

Anyone have more info? 

> On Sep 7, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was recently 
> made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade Fallon. 
> Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious to know if 
> anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any queries as to what 
> this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at Calverton.  Thanks in 
> advance.
> 
> http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/
> 
> -- 
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林　Quiet as the forest
> 火　Conquer like the fire
> 山　Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
>> (\__/)
>> (= '.'=)
>> (") _ (") 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
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[nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Andrew Baksh]

If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
Calverton.  Thanks in advance.

http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/

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"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*


(\__/)
(= '.'=)

(") _ (")


Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

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[nysbirds-l] Calverton Grasslands - Developer wins bid...

[Andrew Baksh]

If I missed this posted already please forgive my redundancy. I was
recently made aware of this by fellow birder and conservationist Jade
Fallon. Travelling got in the way but being back in the area, I am curious
to know if anyone or group out in the LI area is aware and making any
queries as to what this could mean in terms of affecting the grasslands at
Calverton.  Thanks in advance.

http://libn.com/2016/09/01/li-developers-win-bid-for-633-acres-in-calverton/

-- 

"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the
ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest
火 Conquer like the fire
山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu   *The Art of War*


(\__/)
(= '.'=)

(") _ (")


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[nysbirds-l] Red-breasted Nuthatches

[Andrew Baksh]

I usually don't ever post any backyard sightings save for noteworthy 
observations, which of course is subjective.

In in the interest of data mining and tracking irruptive behavior, I thought it 
might be worth posting my observation of 5 Red-breasted Nuthatches in the 
backyard just a few minutes ago.

I was alerted to the presence of the said species and did a bit of pishing to 
get a sense of how many since I detected by ear, multiple birds.  This is a 
high backyard count for me and falls in line with earlier reports of RBNU 
(Red-breasted Nuthatches) showing up in several other locations in our area.

Could this mean that we might see Pine Siskins, Purple Finches and Crossbills 
in decent numbers our way this year??

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

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[nysbirds-l] Red-breasted Nuthatches

[Andrew Baksh]

I usually don't ever post any backyard sightings save for noteworthy 
observations, which of course is subjective.

In in the interest of data mining and tracking irruptive behavior, I thought it 
might be worth posting my observation of 5 Red-breasted Nuthatches in the 
backyard just a few minutes ago.

I was alerted to the presence of the said species and did a bit of pishing to 
get a sense of how many since I detected by ear, multiple birds.  This is a 
high backyard count for me and falls in line with earlier reports of RBNU 
(Red-breasted Nuthatches) showing up in several other locations in our area.

Could this mean that we might see Pine Siskins, Purple Finches and Crossbills 
in decent numbers our way this year??

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

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[nysbirds-l] Mecox - Hudsonian Godwit, Yes

[Eileen Schwinn]

The previously reported Hudsonian Godwit it currently being seen from the 
western shore of Mecox Bay, WaterMill.  The bird is on the sand spit in the bay.
There is also one Lesser Black-backed Gull, Multiple Forsters Terns, Black 
Skimmers, and Royal Terns.
Eileen Schwinn 
Eric Salzman
MIke Higgiston

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[nysbirds-l] Mecox - Hudsonian Godwit, Yes

[Eileen Schwinn]

The previously reported Hudsonian Godwit it currently being seen from the 
western shore of Mecox Bay, WaterMill.  The bird is on the sand spit in the bay.
There is also one Lesser Black-backed Gull, Multiple Forsters Terns, Black 
Skimmers, and Royal Terns.
Eileen Schwinn 
Eric Salzman
MIke Higgiston

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