RE: [nysbirds-l] White ibis no

[Curt McDermott]

Hi All,
Sorry for the late post.  I was at work and just arrived home.  The 5 
White Ibis DID in fact return this evening to roost in the same tree.  This 
reported tonight(Monday) by Linda Scrima,  who with her husband, braved a 
pretty rough storm by all accounts and observed the birds arriving at 7:07PM.
Good Birding,
Curt McDermott



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From: David Klauber 
Date: 7/17/17 11:29 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: NY Birds 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] White ibis no


People were at Wickham lake after dawn but no luck. Searching in the area was 
not productive. They may be out feeding and could return to their roost at 
Wickham lake. Or not
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RE: [nysbirds-l] White ibis no

[Curt McDermott]

Hi All,
Sorry for the late post.  I was at work and just arrived home.  The 5 
White Ibis DID in fact return this evening to roost in the same tree.  This 
reported tonight(Monday) by Linda Scrima,  who with her husband, braved a 
pretty rough storm by all accounts and observed the birds arriving at 7:07PM.
Good Birding,
Curt McDermott



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 Original message 
From: David Klauber 
Date: 7/17/17 11:29 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: NY Birds 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] White ibis no


People were at Wickham lake after dawn but no luck. Searching in the area was 
not productive. They may be out feeding and could return to their roost at 
Wickham lake. Or not
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[nysbirds-l] White Ibis- Yes Orange County

[sophiesaid]

7/17/17  Thunder/lightning storm stakeout in car at Wickham Lake, Warwick 
tonight.
5 White Ibis flew over car, and flew past yesterday's perch in treeline.  Ibis 
circled back past perch a few minutes later, but kept going.
Took documentary photo through car windshield. The rain was too heavy and 
lightning got worse, so I left without relocating. 


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[nysbirds-l] White Ibis- Yes Orange County

[sophiesaid]

7/17/17  Thunder/lightning storm stakeout in car at Wickham Lake, Warwick 
tonight.
5 White Ibis flew over car, and flew past yesterday's perch in treeline.  Ibis 
circled back past perch a few minutes later, but kept going.
Took documentary photo through car windshield. The rain was too heavy and 
lightning got worse, so I left without relocating. 


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[nysbirds-l] Brown Pelicans - Jones Beach West End, Nassau Co.

[Patricia Lindsay]

 Rich Kelly just called to report he and Al Lindberg are watching two 
Brown Pelicans in the inlet north of restroom building at the Coast 
Guard Station at West End. The birds were flying around, then settled on 
the water and are drifting east with tide at the moment.


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[nysbirds-l] Brown Pelicans - Jones Beach West End, Nassau Co.

[Patricia Lindsay]

 Rich Kelly just called to report he and Al Lindberg are watching two 
Brown Pelicans in the inlet north of restroom building at the Coast 
Guard Station at West End. The birds were flying around, then settled on 
the water and are drifting east with tide at the moment.


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving - The New York Times

[Derek Rogers]

An important piece of information to consider when recalling the 18 June 
shearwater flight is food availability within offshore LI waters. Many birds 
were already here prior to the 18 June flight and the moderate coastal 
depression is what likely drove a significant number of these individuals into 
the beaches. 
 
I suspect the same would likely happen now if we were to experience another 
weather event with moderate to strong southeast winds because the huge numbers 
of shearwaters continue to feed off Long Island out to 30 nautical miles and 
beyond.
 
Casual observations from before and after the large inshore shearwater flight 
on 18 June indicate improved abundance and quality of food relative to recent 
years. I've spoken with a handful of offshore fishermen who, without being 
provoked and unaware of the 18 June flight, referenced "a lot more birds than 
usual." This coincided with "a lot more bait than usual," mostly sand eels. 
There have also been lots of baleen whales, presumably attracted to this food.
 
Some personal shearwater observations from three combined combined offshore 
outings on 4 June, 22 June, and 5 July include the following.
 
-463 Cory's Shearwater
-703 Great Shearwater 
-535 Cory's/Great Shearwater 
-142 Sooty Shearwater
-8 Manx Shearwater
 
These Cory's and Great Shearwater totals seem larger than normal and of course 
provide only a narrow snapshot of what offshore NY looks like. On all 3 
outings, rafts of Cory's, Great and Sooty Shearwaters were found feeding and 
sitting on the surface as close as 2.5 nm from the beach, which is why I 
wouldn't have been surprised if another moderate wind/weather event produced 
big seawatch numbers of large shearwaters. Along with these bird sightings, 
we've been detecting masses of bait from 8 nm out to approx. 30 nm and further 
south at the continental shelf break. And I'm still getting text messages from 
offshore fishermen finding huge numbers of birds out to 30 nm. 
 
Just like our terrestrial migrants, seabirds are also faced with rapidly 
changing environmental conditions along their migratory pathway, it's just more 
difficult for land-based observers to monitor. So perhaps several hundred 
(probably more like thousand) dead Great Shearwaters, isn't so significant in 
an area where they regularly pass through and are currently congregating in 
mass. After all, their estimated population is in the millions. The fact that 
Cory's are also present in large numbers but to my knowledge few, if any, 
Cory's specimens were recovered is interesting. One possibility, as suggested 
by others, is that Great Shearwaters have had a tougher time finding food near 
their departure grounds in the South Atlantic and were thus weaker (or more 
prone to disease) when they arrived in our waters. Cory's Shearwaters have a 
different point of origin and shorter migration.
 
Best,
 
Derek Rogers
Sayville

> On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Hugh McGuinness  wrote:
> 
> To play Devil's Advocate for a second: Great Shearwater is regular from 
> mid-May to late August off Suffolk County, so their occurrence in Nassau is 
> not really that surprising, and might be explained by something like the 
> improved quality of feeding offshore from Nassau, for which there is some 
> recent evidence. I agree that the shearwater kill requires an explanation, 
> but I remain unconvinced that the birds were significantly off course.
> 
> Hugh
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Shaibal Mitra  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Dick and all,
>> 
>> I think it's fair to say that the multi-hundreds of Great Shearwaters 
>> observed from the Nassau County shoreline on 18 June were off course. The 
>> species is entirely absent from this area for years at a time (I'd never 
>> previously seen even one from shore in Nassau in over twenty years), and the 
>> sum total of records over all time is vastly lower the numbers seen in just 
>> a few hours. Thus, their extreme concentration in a small area where they 
>> are ordinarily completely absent requires explanation. The fact that they 
>> were starving explains why many birds died, but alone it doesn't account for 
>> why they were bunched up in the New York Bight, rather than dispersing over 
>> a broader area of nearby waters they typically inhabit. All else equal, in 
>> the absence of food, one would expect widely foraging pelagic birds either 
>> to spread out randomly, or possibly to orient directly for traditionally 
>> productive areas, such as Block Canyon, Georges Bank, etc.--if they could. 
>> Food shortage alone doesn't account for the unprecedented densities inshore 
>> in the New York Bight, unless they were actively seeking food in this 
>> unusual area, with seems very unlikely. I think they were starving, tried to 
>> keep moving, and wound up following a path of least resistance that brought 
>> them to where we encountered them.
>> 
>> Shai Mitra
>> Bay Shore
>> 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: A Mystery of Seabirds, Blown Off Course and Starving - The New York Times

[Derek Rogers]

An important piece of information to consider when recalling the 18 June 
shearwater flight is food availability within offshore LI waters. Many birds 
were already here prior to the 18 June flight and the moderate coastal 
depression is what likely drove a significant number of these individuals into 
the beaches. 
 
I suspect the same would likely happen now if we were to experience another 
weather event with moderate to strong southeast winds because the huge numbers 
of shearwaters continue to feed off Long Island out to 30 nautical miles and 
beyond.
 
Casual observations from before and after the large inshore shearwater flight 
on 18 June indicate improved abundance and quality of food relative to recent 
years. I've spoken with a handful of offshore fishermen who, without being 
provoked and unaware of the 18 June flight, referenced "a lot more birds than 
usual." This coincided with "a lot more bait than usual," mostly sand eels. 
There have also been lots of baleen whales, presumably attracted to this food.
 
Some personal shearwater observations from three combined combined offshore 
outings on 4 June, 22 June, and 5 July include the following.
 
-463 Cory's Shearwater
-703 Great Shearwater 
-535 Cory's/Great Shearwater 
-142 Sooty Shearwater
-8 Manx Shearwater
 
These Cory's and Great Shearwater totals seem larger than normal and of course 
provide only a narrow snapshot of what offshore NY looks like. On all 3 
outings, rafts of Cory's, Great and Sooty Shearwaters were found feeding and 
sitting on the surface as close as 2.5 nm from the beach, which is why I 
wouldn't have been surprised if another moderate wind/weather event produced 
big seawatch numbers of large shearwaters. Along with these bird sightings, 
we've been detecting masses of bait from 8 nm out to approx. 30 nm and further 
south at the continental shelf break. And I'm still getting text messages from 
offshore fishermen finding huge numbers of birds out to 30 nm. 
 
Just like our terrestrial migrants, seabirds are also faced with rapidly 
changing environmental conditions along their migratory pathway, it's just more 
difficult for land-based observers to monitor. So perhaps several hundred 
(probably more like thousand) dead Great Shearwaters, isn't so significant in 
an area where they regularly pass through and are currently congregating in 
mass. After all, their estimated population is in the millions. The fact that 
Cory's are also present in large numbers but to my knowledge few, if any, 
Cory's specimens were recovered is interesting. One possibility, as suggested 
by others, is that Great Shearwaters have had a tougher time finding food near 
their departure grounds in the South Atlantic and were thus weaker (or more 
prone to disease) when they arrived in our waters. Cory's Shearwaters have a 
different point of origin and shorter migration.
 
Best,
 
Derek Rogers
Sayville

> On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Hugh McGuinness  wrote:
> 
> To play Devil's Advocate for a second: Great Shearwater is regular from 
> mid-May to late August off Suffolk County, so their occurrence in Nassau is 
> not really that surprising, and might be explained by something like the 
> improved quality of feeding offshore from Nassau, for which there is some 
> recent evidence. I agree that the shearwater kill requires an explanation, 
> but I remain unconvinced that the birds were significantly off course.
> 
> Hugh
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Shaibal Mitra  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Dick and all,
>> 
>> I think it's fair to say that the multi-hundreds of Great Shearwaters 
>> observed from the Nassau County shoreline on 18 June were off course. The 
>> species is entirely absent from this area for years at a time (I'd never 
>> previously seen even one from shore in Nassau in over twenty years), and the 
>> sum total of records over all time is vastly lower the numbers seen in just 
>> a few hours. Thus, their extreme concentration in a small area where they 
>> are ordinarily completely absent requires explanation. The fact that they 
>> were starving explains why many birds died, but alone it doesn't account for 
>> why they were bunched up in the New York Bight, rather than dispersing over 
>> a broader area of nearby waters they typically inhabit. All else equal, in 
>> the absence of food, one would expect widely foraging pelagic birds either 
>> to spread out randomly, or possibly to orient directly for traditionally 
>> productive areas, such as Block Canyon, Georges Bank, etc.--if they could. 
>> Food shortage alone doesn't account for the unprecedented densities inshore 
>> in the New York Bight, unless they were actively seeking food in this 
>> unusual area, with seems very unlikely. I think they were starving, tried to 
>> keep moving, and wound up following a path of least resistance that brought 
>> them to where we encountered them.
>> 
>> Shai Mitra
>> Bay Shore
>> 
>> From: 

[nysbirds-l] White ibis no

[David Klauber]

People were at Wickham lake after dawn but no luck. Searching in the area was 
not productive. They may be out feeding and could return to their roost at 
Wickham lake. Or not
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[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

[Joseph Brin]

*  New York*  Syracuse   
   - July 10, 2017
*  NYSY  07.10.17 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):July 04, 2017 - 
July 10, 2017to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY 
counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands 
Complex (MWC) (just outside Cayuga County),Onondaga, Oswego, Lewis, Jefferson, 
Oneida, Herkimer,  Madison & Cortlandcompiled: July 10  AT 4 p.m. 
(EDT)compiler: Joseph BrinOnondaga Audubon Homepage: www.onondagaaudubon.org  
Greetings: This is the Syracuse Rare Bird Alert for the week of July 04, 2017.
Highlights--
LEAST BITTERNBLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERONRUFFSHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERSTILT 
SANDPIPERUPLAND SANDPIPERRED-HEADED WOODPECKERACADIAN FLYCATCHERSWAINSON’S 
THRUSHDICKCISSEL (Extralimital)




Montezuma National Wildlife Complex (MNWC) and Montezuma Wetlands Complex 
(MWC) 
     Eleven species of shorebirds were noted at the complex this week 
highlighted by the continuing male RUFF and also SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHER and 
STILT SANDPIPER. All three birds were seen at Kipp Island although the RUFF 
also made another appearance at Eaton Marsh on Saturday but was only seen by 
two people.     7/12: A STILT SANDPIPER was seen at Kipp Island.     7/14: The 
last report of the RUFF at Kipp Island although there may be other reports not 
on ebird.     7/15: The RUFF was seen at Eaton Marsh at about 11:30 but did not 
stay long and was not relocated the rest of the day . A SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHER 
was seen at KippIsland. A RED-HEADED WOODPECKER and probably a family group 
continues at the end of Mays Point road on the south side in the cottonwood 
tree. Numerous people reported seeing a LEAST BITTERN on the WildlifeTrail near 
Larue’s Lagoon.

Onondaga county
     7/14: An ACADIAN FLYCATCHER continues at Whiskey Hollow Nature Preserve 
west of Baldwinsville.

Oswego County
     7/12: A GREAT EGRET was south of Co. Rt. 49 west of Central Square.     
7/14: A RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was seen at Sunset Bay Park on Lake Ontario. A 
SWAINSON’S THRUSH was found on Otto Mills Road in north of Redfield. A LEAST 
BITTERN was seen at Derby Hill. an UPLAND SANDPIPER continues at the Oswego 
County Airfield on Howard Road.

Madison County
     A pair of RING-NECKED DUCKS continue at Woodman Pond north of Hamilton.

Extralimital
     Two DICKCISSELS were found at a stakeout on Kingdom Road south of River 
road between Seneca Falls and Waterloo in Seneca County.       
              
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[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

[Joseph Brin]

*  New York*  Syracuse   
   - July 10, 2017
*  NYSY  07.10.17 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird AlertDates(s):July 04, 2017 - 
July 10, 2017to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.comcovering upstate NY 
counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refugeand Montezuma Wetlands 
Complex (MWC) (just outside Cayuga County),Onondaga, Oswego, Lewis, Jefferson, 
Oneida, Herkimer,  Madison & Cortlandcompiled: July 10  AT 4 p.m. 
(EDT)compiler: Joseph BrinOnondaga Audubon Homepage: www.onondagaaudubon.org  
Greetings: This is the Syracuse Rare Bird Alert for the week of July 04, 2017.
Highlights--
LEAST BITTERNBLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERONRUFFSHORT-BILLED DOWITCHERSTILT 
SANDPIPERUPLAND SANDPIPERRED-HEADED WOODPECKERACADIAN FLYCATCHERSWAINSON’S 
THRUSHDICKCISSEL (Extralimital)




Montezuma National Wildlife Complex (MNWC) and Montezuma Wetlands Complex 
(MWC) 
     Eleven species of shorebirds were noted at the complex this week 
highlighted by the continuing male RUFF and also SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHER and 
STILT SANDPIPER. All three birds were seen at Kipp Island although the RUFF 
also made another appearance at Eaton Marsh on Saturday but was only seen by 
two people.     7/12: A STILT SANDPIPER was seen at Kipp Island.     7/14: The 
last report of the RUFF at Kipp Island although there may be other reports not 
on ebird.     7/15: The RUFF was seen at Eaton Marsh at about 11:30 but did not 
stay long and was not relocated the rest of the day . A SHORT-BILLED DOWITCHER 
was seen at KippIsland. A RED-HEADED WOODPECKER and probably a family group 
continues at the end of Mays Point road on the south side in the cottonwood 
tree. Numerous people reported seeing a LEAST BITTERN on the WildlifeTrail near 
Larue’s Lagoon.

Onondaga county
     7/14: An ACADIAN FLYCATCHER continues at Whiskey Hollow Nature Preserve 
west of Baldwinsville.

Oswego County
     7/12: A GREAT EGRET was south of Co. Rt. 49 west of Central Square.     
7/14: A RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was seen at Sunset Bay Park on Lake Ontario. A 
SWAINSON’S THRUSH was found on Otto Mills Road in north of Redfield. A LEAST 
BITTERN was seen at Derby Hill. an UPLAND SANDPIPER continues at the Oswego 
County Airfield on Howard Road.

Madison County
     A pair of RING-NECKED DUCKS continue at Woodman Pond north of Hamilton.

Extralimital
     Two DICKCISSELS were found at a stakeout on Kingdom Road south of River 
road between Seneca Falls and Waterloo in Seneca County.       
              
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