[nysbirds-l] Corrections to my last posts !

[robert adamo]

With thanks to John Gluth, who, after congratulating me on finally
achieving a long sought  species, cared enough to inform me of a couple of
"my bads" !  First, the upstate bird (Downsville) I referenced was not
N.Y.State's first Golden-crowned Sparrow, and the correct spelling of it's
finder's is Lance Verderame.

Cheers,
Bob

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[nysbirds-l] Addendum to yesterday's Pelican post

[Andrew Block]

Forgot to mention that one of the pelicans flew to the group of docks south of 
the spit where all the gulls gather a little before dusk.
Andrew
Andrew v. F. Block
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age

[Andrew Baksh]

I have not added my digiscoped images as yet to my eBird checklist but in 
reviewing them and the videos I took, I am comfortable with a HY (hatch year) 
bird as well.

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

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林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
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> On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve and all,
> 
> In terms of field-observable appearance, my thought was that it was a 
> hatching-year bird based on (1) the vagueness and narrowness of the blackish 
> arc extending from the forecrown back along the lateral crown; and (2) the 
> relatively large amount of yellow bleeding down below the arc, into the front 
> of the supercilium. A lot of winter birds out west show much broader, more 
> solidly black frontal arcs and little or no yellow below the arc. On the LI 
> bird, the dark arc often looked to me like a vague, discontinuous series of 
> small dark flecks. I would think an adult would show more black.
> 
> When I get a chance I'll check lots of photos for hints regarding molt 
> limits, the shapes of rectrix tips, etc.
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> 
> From: bounce-124141213-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-124141213-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Steve Walter 
> [swalte...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:11 PM
> To: NYSBIRDS
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age
> 
> I’ve posted a couple of pictures at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ 
> . Not being on top of Golden-crowned Sparrow plumages, I assumed while I was 
> there that it’s a first winter (immature) bird. It is what you expect in 
> these situations. Now having had a chance to look at references and pictures, 
> I’m not so sure about that. This bird seems brighter on the crown and above 
> the eye than many immatures. which are often rather plain faced with limited 
> yellow. But it is noted that there’s enough variability in adults and 
> immatures that they can’t always be aged. This individual looks very similar 
> to the one in figure 48.3 in “Sparrows … The Photographic Guide”, which is 
> left undetermined to age.  You can look it up for yourself, if you care about 
> that sort of thing.
> 
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age

[Larry Trachtenberg]

I have not seen the bird (Long Island and all) but have seen golden crowned 
sparrow in Victoria, BC. My point here is only that I appreciate the shared 
knowledge of Steve, Shai, Andrew and their ilk who still post on NYSbirds 
regularly (even if often beyond me). 

Thanks

L. Trachtenberg 
Ossining

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> -CAUTION: EXTERNAL EMAIL
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Steve and all,
> 
> In terms of field-observable appearance, my thought was that it was a 
> hatching-year bird based on (1) the vagueness and narrowness of the blackish 
> arc extending from the forecrown back along the lateral crown; and (2) the 
> relatively large amount of yellow bleeding down below the arc, into the front 
> of the supercilium. A lot of winter birds out west show much broader, more 
> solidly black frontal arcs and little or no yellow below the arc. On the LI 
> bird, the dark arc often looked to me like a vague, discontinuous series of 
> small dark flecks. I would think an adult would show more black.
> 
> When I get a chance I'll check lots of photos for hints regarding molt 
> limits, the shapes of rectrix tips, etc.
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> 
> From: bounce-124141213-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-124141213-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Steve Walter 
> [swalte...@verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:11 PM
> To: NYSBIRDS
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age
> 
> I’ve posted a couple of pictures at my web site 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__stevewalternature.com_&d=DwIF-g&c=dpn1WjMMQGUYKOlM1k1w3OIaMfTHNTwPoUrrILOsxvs&r=NwFWAUOlLbz1fEv1wZE8gwFOElNPUvOXd2Pih8klMD8&m=pI6S1TuMSJzxpX6Zl5JGh7MjTKGVGDt7LvPrQIHZoUE&s=w7oXilpgk1tFInJCAWaDCre07aB-TFhIY-fhk6ZSLQI&e=
>  . Not being on top of Golden-crowned Sparrow plumages, I assumed while I was 
> there that it’s a first winter (immature) bird. It is what you expect in 
> these situations. Now having had a chance to look at references and pictures, 
> I’m not so sure about that. This bird seems brighter on the crown and above 
> the eye than many immatures. which are often rather plain faced with limited 
> yellow. But it is noted that there’s enough variability in adults and 
> immatures that they can’t always be aged. This individual looks very similar 
> to the one in figure 48.3 in “Sparrows … The Photographic Guide”, which is 
> left undetermined to age.  You can look it up for yourself, if you care about 
> that sort of thing.
> 
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age

[Shaibal Mitra]

Hi Steve and all,

In terms of field-observable appearance, my thought was that it was a 
hatching-year bird based on (1) the vagueness and narrowness of the blackish 
arc extending from the forecrown back along the lateral crown; and (2) the 
relatively large amount of yellow bleeding down below the arc, into the front 
of the supercilium. A lot of winter birds out west show much broader, more 
solidly black frontal arcs and little or no yellow below the arc. On the LI 
bird, the dark arc often looked to me like a vague, discontinuous series of 
small dark flecks. I would think an adult would show more black.

When I get a chance I'll check lots of photos for hints regarding molt limits, 
the shapes of rectrix tips, etc.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

From: bounce-124141213-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-124141213-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Steve Walter 
[swalte...@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:11 PM
To: NYSBIRDS
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age

I’ve posted a couple of pictures at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/ . 
Not being on top of Golden-crowned Sparrow plumages, I assumed while I was 
there that it’s a first winter (immature) bird. It is what you expect in these 
situations. Now having had a chance to look at references and pictures, I’m not 
so sure about that. This bird seems brighter on the crown and above the eye 
than many immatures. which are often rather plain faced with limited yellow. 
But it is noted that there’s enough variability in adults and immatures that 
they can’t always be aged. This individual looks very similar to the one in 
figure 48.3 in “Sparrows … The Photographic Guide”, which is left undetermined 
to age.  You can look it up for yourself, if you care about that sort of thing.

Steve Walter
Bayside, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age

[Steve Walter]

I've posted a couple of pictures at my web site
http://stevewalternature.com/ . Not being on top of Golden-crowned Sparrow
plumages, I assumed while I was there that it's a first winter (immature)
bird. It is what you expect in these situations. Now having had a chance to
look at references and pictures, I'm not so sure about that. This bird seems
brighter on the crown and above the eye than many immatures. which are often
rather plain faced with limited yellow. But it is noted that there's enough
variability in adults and immatures that they can't always be aged. This
individual looks very similar to the one in figure 48.3 in "Sparrows . The
Photographic Guide", which is left undetermined to age.  You can look it up
for yourself, if you care about that sort of thing.

 

Steve Walter

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Jamaica Bay Legislation

[Alicia Williams]

 Thanks all for sharing the info! I just called, filled in the website
form, and a letter is going in the mail tomorrow.
Here's the address in case anyone is interested -
The Honorable Andrew M. Cuomo
Governor of New York State
NYS State Capitol Building
Albany, NY 12224

Power to the birders!
Alicia

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:49 AM Nancy Shamban 
wrote:

> FYI to all.  You cannot email directly from that website.  Go to the
> website at https://www.governor.ny.gov/content/governor-contact-form
> 
>  and
> fill in the form with this or another letter.  There is no actual email to
> use to the governor.  So call or go thru the website.  Both easy to do.
> Thanks Joshua
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 8:52 AM Joshua Malbin 
> wrote:
>
>> Here is a sample letter I just wrote that copies heavily from the bill's
>> sponsor for its content. I know it is much easier to copy and paste than to
>> compose your own letter, so feel free to do so.
>>
>>
>> I am writing to urge you to sign S.4165/A.5767 into law. This important
>> bill would extend permanently protections for Jamaica Bay against dumping
>> hazardous dredged material that are currently set to expire in 2022.
>>
>> The Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge is one of the most widely acknowledged
>> and respected bird sanctuaries in the Northeastern United States, and the
>> bay itself is an ecological treasure all New Yorkers can enjoy. People fish
>> in its waters year-round.
>>
>> The constant threat from city, state and federal agencies to use the deep
>> portions of Jamaica Bay as a garbage dump for contaminated sediment has
>> long been one of the biggest threats to the future of the bay. While these
>> threats started to appear decades ago, they have found new supporters as
>> various dredging projects around the city have created a need to get rid of
>> sediment that is often contaminated. In addition, the research that has
>> more recently come to light highlights the amazing role that the deep
>> portions of the bay play in supporting massive amounts of marine life that
>> would cease to exist should they be filled in.
>>
>> Please sign sign S.4165/A.5767.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Joshua Malbin
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:12 PM Andrew Baksh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I hope I would count on your support. I am writing on behalf of the
>>> Jamaica Bay Ecowatchers. We need folks to contact Governor Cuomo and
>>> urge him to pass the Jamaica Bay Bill which would protect the bay from the
>>> dumping of harmful contaminants into its deep sections. The bill is
>>> awaiting his signature and if he does not call it up it will die.
>>>
>>> If you want to protect Jamacia Bay please take a few minutes to either
>>> call
>>> 518-474-8390 or email to
>>> https://www.governor.ny.gov/content/governor-contact-form
>>> 
>>> and request that he pass assembly bill 5767 which is also Senate bill
>>> 4165 which will protect Jamaica Bay. M
>>>
>>> Thank You.
>>>
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>>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own
>>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>>
>>> 風 Swift as the wind
>>> 林 Quiet as the forest
>>> 火 Conquer like the fire
>>> 山 Steady as the mountain
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>>> 
>>>
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[nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow YES 11/20

[Patrick Shure]

Continues at Brookside County Park as of 8:15am. Feeder area north of the
park building

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