Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Stanley Greenberg 
This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible
to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there
sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some
birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway
management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's absurd that
people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than people who watch
(birds).


On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar  wrote:

> Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my
> guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily).
>
> L. Trachtenberg
> Ossining NY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus  wrote:
>
> 
> Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and you
> need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this
> unjust regulation.  Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this season.
> It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of Fort
> Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know about it from the
> organizations representing us. I know. It is not right. It is also about
> money. The fishermen they say are complaining they have no parking space.
> From my experience that is not true. There are always lots of empty spots.
> I was planning to go, but we cannot.
>
> Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if another
> driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the second driver
> gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The rest can go back to
> the main area, and then later pick up the original driver., complicated,
> but possible, Bird different areas and take turns.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro  wrote:
>
>> Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags?
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit
>> you can be towed.
>> Bob O’Neill
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy
>>> Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in winter,
>>> but I seem to remember some change in that policy.
>>> > Thank you,
>>> > Dawn Hannay
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Question re parking at Breezy Point, Queens

2022-02-03 Thread Stanley Greenberg 
This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible
to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there
sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some
birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway
management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's absurd that
people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than people who watch
(birds).


On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar  wrote:

> Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my
> guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily).
>
> L. Trachtenberg
> Ossining NY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus  wrote:
>
> 
> Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and you
> need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this
> unjust regulation.  Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this season.
> It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of Fort
> Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know about it from the
> organizations representing us. I know. It is not right. It is also about
> money. The fishermen they say are complaining they have no parking space.
> From my experience that is not true. There are always lots of empty spots.
> I was planning to go, but we cannot.
>
> Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if another
> driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the second driver
> gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The rest can go back to
> the main area, and then later pick up the original driver., complicated,
> but possible, Bird different areas and take turns.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro  wrote:
>
>> Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags?
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit
>> you can be towed.
>> Bob O’Neill
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy
>>> Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in winter,
>>> but I seem to remember some change in that policy.
>>> > Thank you,
>>> > Dawn Hannay
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
>>> >
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>> >
>>> > ARCHIVES:
>>> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>>> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>>> > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>>> >
>>> > Please submit your observations to eBird:
>>> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>>> >
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>>> >
>>>
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>>>
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>>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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>>>
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[nysbirds-l] Swainson's Prospect Park transportation directions

2017-05-26 Thread Stanley Greenberg 
I’ve been asked by members of the Brooklyn Bird Club to post some information 
about travel to Prospect Park.  

Please do not drive here if you can avoid it, especially on the weekend.  
Parking is difficult, traffic is congested, and it is easy to reach us by 
subway.  The closest subway station is Prospect Park on the B and Q trains 
(only Q runs on the weekend).  Stay towards the front of the train if you’re 
coming from Manhattan, turn right as you exit the station on Lincoln Rd. and 
you will see the park across Ocean Avenue.  The Midwood, current location of 
the warbler, is just to the right (north) once you get into the park.  Follow 
the East Drive until you meet Center Drive, the walk left (west).  

You can also take the F, G or 2 train, and walk through the park.  There are 
many maps around the park, along with PEPs and other park workers who can 
direct you.

If you’re coming this afternoon keep in mind that Ocean Avenue becomes two 
lanes of traffic southbound at 4PM, so no parking on that side.  There are 
always many events in the park on the weekend, especially Smorgasburg on 
Sunday, which brings lots of crowds and traffic.

Thank you.  Good luck getting the bird.  Last one was 1950.



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[nysbirds-l] Swainson's Prospect Park transportation directions

2017-05-26 Thread Stanley Greenberg 
I’ve been asked by members of the Brooklyn Bird Club to post some information 
about travel to Prospect Park.  

Please do not drive here if you can avoid it, especially on the weekend.  
Parking is difficult, traffic is congested, and it is easy to reach us by 
subway.  The closest subway station is Prospect Park on the B and Q trains 
(only Q runs on the weekend).  Stay towards the front of the train if you’re 
coming from Manhattan, turn right as you exit the station on Lincoln Rd. and 
you will see the park across Ocean Avenue.  The Midwood, current location of 
the warbler, is just to the right (north) once you get into the park.  Follow 
the East Drive until you meet Center Drive, the walk left (west).  

You can also take the F, G or 2 train, and walk through the park.  There are 
many maps around the park, along with PEPs and other park workers who can 
direct you.

If you’re coming this afternoon keep in mind that Ocean Avenue becomes two 
lanes of traffic southbound at 4PM, so no parking on that side.  There are 
always many events in the park on the weekend, especially Smorgasburg on 
Sunday, which brings lots of crowds and traffic.

Thank you.  Good luck getting the bird.  Last one was 1950.



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