Re: [nysbirds-l] Hercules' Club/Devil's Walking Stick
There is a nice publication from the NY Botanical Garden called */Mistaken Identity? Invasive Plants and their Native Look-Alikes /* www.nybg.org/files/scientists/rnaczi/Mistaken_Identity_Final.pdf Regards, Peter Bookalam On 9/10/2010 3:59 PM, John Askildsen wrote: > I've seen several references recently on the list of late to migrating > warbler flocks feasting on the fruit of 'Devil's Walkingstick', > /Aralia <../data_results_with_common.cfm?genus=Aralia> spinosa,/ and > "Hercules' Club", /Zanthoxylum/ /clava-herculis/ L., both of which are > of course natives to North America. > > And I too made this identification/assumption years ago, until i was > corrected by a very observant friend of mine. he informed that what we > are all referencing to in our region is actually "Japanese Angelica > Tree", /Aralia elata/. Not a very native species. Figures! > > The two aforementioned native species are, as i recall, appalachian or > southeastern USA species which are not too common around here at all. > And yes, i believe that even the stuff up at Doodletown Road in Bear > Mtn SP, is "Japanese Angelica Tree". > > Interestingly, on the internet, several sites reference the name > "Herculese' Club" interchangibly for several different related (at > least in appearance) species, both native and non-native. while i am > not an expert plant person, i strongly believe that "Herculese' Club" > is properly known as a southeastern USA woody plant and not > the non-native look- alike we see in the NYC area. If i am wrong, i > would be quite happy to know that. > > All the best, > > John > > John Askildsen > Millbrook, New York -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Hercules' Club/Devil's Walking Stick
I've seen several references recently on the list of late to migrating warbler flocks feasting on the fruit of 'Devil's Walkingstick', Aralia spinosa, and "Hercules' Club", Zanthoxylum clava-herculis L., both of which are of course natives to North America. And I too made this identification/assumption years ago, until i was corrected by a very observant friend of mine. he informed that what we are all referencing to in our region is actually "Japanese Angelica Tree", Aralia elata. Not a very native species. Figures! The two aforementioned native species are, as i recall, appalachian or southeastern USA species which are not too common around here at all. And yes, i believe that even the stuff up at Doodletown Road in Bear Mtn SP, is "Japanese Angelica Tree". Interestingly, on the internet, several sites reference the name "Herculese' Club" interchangibly for several different related (at least in appearance) species, both native and non-native. while i am not an expert plant person, i strongly believe that "Herculese' Club" is properly known as a southeastern USA woody plant and not the non-native look- alike we see in the NYC area. If i am wrong, i would be quite happy to know that. All the best,John John AskildsenMillbrook, New York
[nysbirds-l] Hercules' Club/Devil's Walking Stick
I've seen several references recently on the list of late to migrating warbler flocks feasting on the fruit of 'Devil's Walkingstick', Aralia spinosa,and "Hercules' Club", Zanthoxylum clava-herculis L., both of which are of course natives to North America.And I too made this identification/assumption years ago, until i was corrected by a very observant friend of mine. he informed that what we are all referencing to in our region is actually "Japanese Angelica Tree",Aralia elata.Not a very native species. Figures!The two aforementioned native species are, as i recall, appalachian or southeastern USA species which are not too common around here at all. And yes, i believe that even the stuff up at Doodletown Road in Bear Mtn SP, is "Japanese Angelica Tree".Interestingly, on the internet, several sites reference the name "Herculese' Club"interchangibly for several different related (at least in appearance) species, both native and non-native. while i am not an expert plant person, i strongly believe that "Herculese' Club" is properly known as a southeastern USA woody plant and not thenon-native look- alike we see in the NYC area. If i am wrong, i would be quite happy to know that.All the best,JohnJohn AskildsenMillbrook, New York
Re: [nysbirds-l] Hercules' Club/Devil's Walking Stick
There is a nice publication from the NY Botanical Garden called */Mistaken Identity? Invasive Plants and their Native Look-Alikes /* www.nybg.org/files/scientists/rnaczi/Mistaken_Identity_Final.pdf Regards, Peter Bookalam On 9/10/2010 3:59 PM, John Askildsen wrote: I've seen several references recently on the list of late to migrating warbler flocks feasting on the fruit of 'Devil's Walkingstick', /Aralia ../data_results_with_common.cfm?genus=Aralia spinosa,/ and Hercules' Club, /Zanthoxylum/ /clava-herculis/ L., both of which are of course natives to North America. And I too made this identification/assumption years ago, until i was corrected by a very observant friend of mine. he informed that what we are all referencing to in our region is actually Japanese Angelica Tree, /Aralia elata/. Not a very native species. Figures! The two aforementioned native species are, as i recall, appalachian or southeastern USA species which are not too common around here at all. And yes, i believe that even the stuff up at Doodletown Road in Bear Mtn SP, is Japanese Angelica Tree. Interestingly, on the internet, several sites reference the name Herculese' Club interchangibly for several different related (at least in appearance) species, both native and non-native. while i am not an expert plant person, i strongly believe that Herculese' Club is properly known as a southeastern USA woody plant and not the non-native look- alike we see in the NYC area. If i am wrong, i would be quite happy to know that. All the best, John John Askildsen Millbrook, New York -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
