Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

[Ardith Bondi]

I noticed the appearance in that post of the left bird's legs, as well. 
I believe it is a photographic artifact, given the light conditions and 
the apparent crop and lightening of the image.


This is the only photo I've posted of the birds, and their legs look 
pretty normal to me. http://www.ardithbondi.com/slideshow55.html#20


Ardith

On 6/12/12 10:28 AM, Angus Wilson wrote:

I agree with Ardith and others that the onus now is on finding photos
that definitively show a band - after all, these must already be some of
the most photographed Mississippi Kites in history! Usually it's the
other way around, birds are reported as being unbanded until someone
looks more closely at pictures and sees different.

Although I am not advocating this as an explanation here, it is worth
remembering that nesting Mississippi Kites will tolerate a 'helper',
usually a subadult. Multiple observers stated that the pair that nested
in Root (Montgomery Co) were joined at times by a third bird. Apparently
this cooperative behavior is especially common at the northern edges of
the range were conditions may not be optimal.

NYSARC has received a couple of reports on the kites but I would have
expected (hoped for) a few more considering the hundreds of people
who've been to see them so far. The next stage in documentation will be
to obtain evidence of egg laying, chicks etc.

One last thing, looking at the picture sent by Steve Sachs (BTW a no-no
on this list), I was struck by how thin the legs look on the left hand
bird (female?) compared to the right hand bird. Is this due to the angle
or a genuine difference?

Cheers, Angus Wilson
New York City/Springs
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

[Angus Wilson]

I agree with Ardith and others that the onus now is on finding photos that
definitively show a band - after all, these must already be some of the
most photographed Mississippi Kites in history! Usually it's the other way
around, birds are reported as being unbanded until someone looks more
closely at pictures and sees different.

Although I am not advocating this as an explanation here, it is worth
remembering that nesting Mississippi Kites will tolerate a 'helper',
usually a subadult. Multiple observers stated that the pair that nested in
Root (Montgomery Co) were joined at times by a third bird. Apparently this
cooperative behavior is especially common at the northern edges of the
range were conditions may not be optimal.

NYSARC has received a couple of reports on the kites but I would have
expected (hoped for) a few more considering the hundreds of people who've
been to see them so far. The next stage in documentation will be to obtain
evidence of egg laying, chicks etc.

One last thing, looking at the picture sent by Steve Sachs (BTW a no-no on
this list), I was struck by how thin the legs look on the left hand bird
(female?) compared to the right hand bird. Is this due to the angle or a
genuine difference?

Cheers, Angus Wilson
New York City/Springs

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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

[Scott Haber]

Or perhaps they didn't actually see a band (which would also be more likely
than "bands" plural) on the female.

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On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Nadine Scarpa
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> Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw
> bands on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male or
> the female of this pair in the photograph.
>
> Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi wrote:
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>> I don't either.
>>
>> Ardith Bondi
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>> On 6/12/12 7:31 AM, Spsdmd wrote:
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>>> looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't
>>> see any bands.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

[Ardith Bondi]

It would be more conclusive if someone could get good photos of the 
bands on the bird.


Ardith

On 6/12/12 8:58 AM, Nadine Scarpa wrote:

Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw
bands on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male
or the female of this pair in the photograph.
Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi mailto:ard...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

I don't either.

Ardith Bondi


On 6/12/12 7:31 AM, Spsdmd wrote:

looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i
don't
see any bands.
steve sachs
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

[Nadine Scarpa]

Is it at all possible that there are two pairs of kites?  Someone saw bands
on one female, and there are clearly no bands on either the male or
the female of this pair in the photograph.

Perhaps another pair is nesting somewhere nearby?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Ardith Bondi  wrote:

> I don't either.
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> Ardith Bondi
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Re: [nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

[Ardith Bondi]

I don't either.

Ardith Bondi

On 6/12/12 7:31 AM, Spsdmd wrote:

looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't
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re:[nysbirds-l] bands on female kite?

[Spsdmd]

looking at my photos of the 2 miss. kites in sterling forest, i don't see any 
bands.
steve sachs


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