Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [Milis-AATI] only you can feel

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gak usah diladenin lah kl nyela pake imel gratisan.. hehee




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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Milis-AATI] Cara Pintar tangkal Bandar ! A tribute to Vibby

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx-consultant
Komentar embah:

1 Untuk investasi jangka panjang
  - STICK to FA, use TA for TIMING.
  - No NEED to discuss BA, buang WAKTU doang. 

2. untuk investasi jangka pendek
  - STICK to TA, use BA for SUPPORT and FA for JAGA JAGA jangan maen
di COMBERAN.

3. untuk trading 
  - STICK to TA and BA
  - No NEED to discuss FA, buang WAKTU doang

4. Trading in SIDEWAYS market with BEARISH BIAS seperti SEKARANG.
  - GO OUT FOR VACATION 
  - DO NOT LET your money DIGROGOTIN bandar



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> Vibby, where ever you are, you are a far better obsever.  I completely
> agree with what you post this day about dark cloud cover... You pull
> me out again this time.  Not for long I'm afraid.In addition to that,
> ini beberapa kesimpulan kecil (mungkin saja salah, so DiSCLAIMER as
> usual)Bandar besar ini orang yang kerjain PR dengan baik, ternyata
> beliau juga memperhatikan Future DJIA, NASDAQ, GOLD, OIL, dan berita2
> terbaru, entah melalui Bloomberg, CNN, dst, dan menjadikannya sebagai
> sentimen esok hari (Banyak trader masih menganggap JSX mengikuti hasil
> regional , padahal tidak lagi tuh... ).  Saya walaupun masih kesal,
> kini mulai kagum dan takut akan "KEBESARANNYA" hehehehe  He is
> always one step ahead guys, kadang dia biarin kita menang melalui
> rumours, kadang melalui teknikal, as he pleasedto mislead you all.  So
> ... always watch out for everything.  Hari ini, sentimennya adalah
> future DJIA yang merah dan tingkat inflasi (seakan bandar sdh tahu
> lebih dulu, dan takutnya, dia benar2 tahu), menjelaskan knp big caps
> yang anteng pada akhir sesi diguyur tiba2.   Jadi Kesimpulan akhir
> dibuat di Jam 15.00, semua player sdh standby di  telpon masing2
> sekuritas.  Lalu pola permainan diubah berdasarkan kesimpulan
> terakhir.  Biasanya 10 menit terakhir merupakan yang paling
> menentukan. THE CERTAIN THING is .. UNCERTAINTY (yang Pasti adalah
> KetidakPastian, ya Wan AL ?)Lalu pers  & analis besoknya mengcover
> kesimpulan tsb menjadi berita yang kita baca  / dengar sehari2.
> Berbahaya ngga tuh ... heheheSorry, big BOZZ bandar, I'll try to make
> it harder for you to kick our butts anytime I can.  You know, BOZZ, it
> would be a pleasure to meet you someday.Forget the 1300, Always be
> careful to everybody arround you. HEAR no evil, SEE no evil, TALK no
> evil, THINK no evil.  Trust yourself mostly.GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL GUYS
> .Until next time.ADIOS AMIGOS . GOO  SILVER !!!the Lone
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Milis-AATI] only you can feel

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik Deddy
vesco, i don't really know how long u have been in the indo share 
market. i think u just don't know what u are talking about. I'm not 
taking side here but mbah is only trying to help and I personally 
very happy for that.
there's now right or wrong answer in equity mkt.good luck w/ your 
investment.:)

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> Bung VESCO,
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> Thank YOU mister  for your NICE OPINION CONTINUE your GOOD
> writing
> 
> I think YOU ARE RIGHT that ONLY embah CAN FEEL ,
> and NO OTHER TECHNICAL expert in this AATI milis FEEL what
> embah FEEL...
> 
> You DO NOT have to PROVE that only I can feel it because I AGREE
> with YOU that ONLY embah can FEEL it.
> 
> Note:
> - my APOLOGY to other member for SAYING a LIE to other
>   member WHO does FEEL it Kalo ada yang FEEL 
> - Embah tidak menulis posting tsb KHUSUS untuk milis AATI, embah 
cuman
>   menforwadkan kemilis AATI , siapa tau ada yang minat dengan
> BANDARMOLOGI.
> - Pada saat ini milis Obrolan Bandar yang embah ASUH hampir mencapai
> 1500 orang.
>   Mudah mudahan 1500 orang ini TIDAK menganggap BANDARMOLOGI sebagai
>   FOOD
> 
> Sekali LAGI, thank YOU a LOT for your NICE OPINION, KEEP on with
> your GOOD writing, your mother will be PROUD of YOU
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> embah
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Milis-AATI] only you can feel

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx-consultant
Bung VESCO,

Thank YOU mister  for your NICE OPINION CONTINUE your GOOD
writing

I think YOU ARE RIGHT that ONLY embah CAN FEEL ,
and NO OTHER TECHNICAL expert in this AATI milis FEEL what
embah FEEL...

You DO NOT have to PROVE that only I can feel it because I AGREE
with YOU that ONLY embah can FEEL it.

Note:
- my APOLOGY to other member for SAYING a LIE to other
  member WHO does FEEL it Kalo ada yang FEEL 
- Embah tidak menulis posting tsb KHUSUS untuk milis AATI, embah cuman
  menforwadkan kemilis AATI , siapa tau ada yang minat dengan
BANDARMOLOGI.
- Pada saat ini milis Obrolan Bandar yang embah ASUH hampir mencapai
1500 orang.
  Mudah mudahan 1500 orang ini TIDAK menganggap BANDARMOLOGI sebagai
  FOOD

Sekali LAGI, thank YOU a LOT for your NICE OPINION, KEEP on with
your GOOD writing, your mother will be PROUD of YOU



embah



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[obrolan-bandar] JAWABAN atas pertanyaan sebagian orang (ANTM, BLTA)

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Udah hampir 2 minggu lebih saya absen cek mils ini, karena bantu istri yg pindahan kantor ke ruko baru (sebagian dana hasil jualan INCO dan MEDC). Selama itu ANTM , BLTA saham kesayangan saya di guyur , dan ada beberapa anggota OB yg coba kontak via HP, Yahoo messanger (saya nggak bisa buka voice mail-nya ada firewall di PC saya), tanya ttg BLTA dan ANTM. Well walau gitu saya nggak nyesel pernah kasih no. HP ke beberapa anggota OB, I'm honored ditanya bak analis aja.     BY the way, ANTM sudah rebound sentuh 4075 tgl 1 maret ini, BLTA sedang berjuang. Terus terang ada yg tanya takut nggak, yah takut pasti ada. Cuma saya selalu pegang fundamental. Saya pun sekarang punya ANTM di berbagai harga , avarage udah kayak tangga monyet. Kalo ada yg bilang setiap saham ada bandarnya , saya setuju...ini kelemahan BEJ yg terlalu di dominasi investor institusi BANDAR fund, dan terlalu kecilnya jumlah investor ritel. Akibatnya Standar Deviasi nya tinggi. Kalo di
 NYSEmana ada saham bagus yg trend up bisa turun tiba2 20% lebih (bukannya promosi cuma perbandingan, toh di NY jarang yg return di atas 100%).     ANTM, PTBA dan TINS ke tiganya perusahaan dgn laba positif, akan membentuk holding (untung nggak di merger murni), yg artinya kalo ada expansi nggak terlalu butuh  bantuan cash extternal. Dgn bentuk holding kalo ada proyek macam TAYAN mungkin ke depan nggak usah JV dgn perusahaan asing. Holding ini bakal sangat menguntungkan ANTM dan PTBA di segi pendanaan.       Proyek Alumina Tayan ANTM bakal nambah laba bersih sekitar 70-90 Juta USD per tahun. Anak perusahaan ANTM yg lain yg nambang emas , yg biasanya selalu rugi bersih mulai MARET 2006 bisa lihat bakal nambah kontribusi laba sekitar Rp 300-400/lembar (ini informasi internal).     Ketika ANTM naik dari 3600- ke 4500, banyak bandar lokal yg kejedut, jadi ada
 perpindahan proporsi saham ANTM besar2an dari lokal ke asing. So sekarang banyak FUND yg rilis macam OD, yg bilang saham ini bakal turun dgn berbagai alasan tak masuk akal.      So utk BOZZ yg gemar guyur saham iniSILAKAN GUYUR SESUKA ANDA, SAYA TIDAK IKUT BUANG, SAYA AKAN TERUS AVARAGE , karena SAYA TAHU anda pun tidak rela SAHAM INI di bawah 3500!!!      Portofolio saya di hitung dari maret'05 ke maret'06 beranak 95%, dari JAN'05 sampai Des'05 di kisaran 115%, dan ANTM menyumbang terbanyak.     UTK BANDAR BLTA coba kalo berani GUYUR SAMPAI DI BAWAH 1250, gw salut dah            

  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] asii

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik jin iprit
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short terus asii... 
buyback di 9600 - 9550. 
 kalau kemarin ngeshort di 9850, target buyback di 9600 
gurih soalnya pake margin (alias modal dengkul) 
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[obrolan-bandar] UNTR

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik Sri Ratu



Kalo UNTR gimana nih kira2 nasibnya pak eka?EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:MEDC nggak usah takut, turunin dikit naik dikit2, dari dulu aye udah ngoceh medc. FUNDAMENTAL NGEDUKUNG!   Cuma sepertinya BANDAR ganti strategi naekin, nggak langsung sehari.  Sorry Baru nimbrung lagi. SIBUK bantuin istri yg baru pindahan kantor.
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[obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] MEDC

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



MEDC nggak usah takut, turunin dikit naik dikit2, dari dulu aye udah ngoceh medc. FUNDAMENTAL NGEDUKUNG!   Cuma sepertinya BANDAR ganti strategi naekin, nggak langsung sehari.  Sorry Baru nimbrung lagi. SIBUK bantuin istri yg baru pindahan kantor.Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Pak Budi S termasuk orang pinter - yg telah biasa dgketinggian2 .See you at the top.:) Saat ini si-kon keberadaan di market - tidak lg merasa gamang, ya.-Original Message-From: saham@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Ofbudi suryonoSent: 28 Februari 2006 15:02To: aati; eko; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; saham@yahoogroups.comSubject: [saham] MEDCMEDC terlihat telah menyentuh highest pricenya , buy di
 4175, yangngerasa ketinggian boleh short level tsb,yang bodo seperti saya akabbeli di highestnya, yang nonton aja dan komentar sesudah kejadiansilahkan, good luck-Brings words and photos together (easily) withPhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]DILARANG KERAS MEMOSTING OPINI PRIBADI TENTANG POLITIK DI MILIS INI.Silahkan lakukan itu di milis [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] untuk unsubscribe dari milis saham[EMAIL PROTECTED] untuk subscribe ke milis sahamSPONSORED LINKS BisahGJVvSluvmSSnw> _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "saham " on the web.* To unsubscribe
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI ! Bandar pasang Jebakan

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik Deddy
aneh di metastock saya kok gak keliatan volnya. tetep kecil

Mbah absent dari OB jgn lama lama dong.

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> Tanggal 28 - 2 - 2006
> 
> Bandar melalui sekuritas CD melakukan TS 8000 lot.  Dari 
Candlestick akan
> terlihat jelas pola penurunan disertai volume yang besar (yang 
dibuat
> bandar, krn TS
> 
> dimasukkan kedalam volume transaksi).  Jadi bagi yang tidak 
memperhatikan
> AALI scr langsung bisa tertipu krn menyangka trend confirmed down 
line.
> Sebaiknya
> 
> saham ini malah dibeli, krn dng begitu bandar akan kehilangan 
barang.
> Waspada, bandar yang satu ini kuat sekali menunggu barangnya & 
tampaknya
> mulai nakal.  Jadi
> 
> utk yang mid-long term investor, it's time to buy.
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI ! Bandar pasang Jebakan

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik ibe
Ahhh, ini bisa jadi jawaban buat pertanyaan saya di 
junior_trader.
Kenapa 2 atau 3 hari yg lalu di ISAT di akhir sesi 
beberapa sekuritas melakukan transaksi TS yg jumlahnya 
bahkan gak ada di bid atau offer sebelum dan sesudah 
transaksi. Yg lebih bikin bingung transaksinya diatas 10 
rb lot.

thanks pak.
iwanibe

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> Tanggal 28 - 2 - 2006
> 
> Bandar melalui sekuritas CD melakukan TS 8000 lot.  Dari 
>Candlestick akan
> terlihat jelas pola penurunan disertai volume yang besar 
>(yang dibuat
> bandar, krn TS
> 
> dimasukkan kedalam volume transaksi).  Jadi bagi yang 
>tidak memperhatikan
> AALI scr langsung bisa tertipu krn menyangka trend 
>confirmed down line.
> Sebaiknya
> 
> saham ini malah dibeli, krn dng begitu bandar akan 
>kehilangan barang.
> Waspada, bandar yang satu ini kuat sekali menunggu 
>barangnya & tampaknya
> mulai nakal.  Jadi
> 
> utk yang mid-long term investor, it's time to buy.
> 
> Tentu saja, saya DISCLAIMER..
> 


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[obrolan-bandar] AALI ! Bandar pasang Jebakan

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik G-MAN





Tanggal 28 - 2 - 2006
 
Bandar 
melalui sekuritas CD melakukan TS 8000 lot.  Dari Candlestick akan terlihat 
jelas pola penurunan disertai volume yang besar (yang dibuat bandar, krn TS 

 
dimasukkan kedalam volume transaksi).  Jadi bagi yang tidak 
memperhatikan AALI scr langsung bisa tertipu krn menyangka trend confirmed down 
line.  Sebaiknya 
 
saham 
ini malah dibeli, krn dng begitu bandar akan kehilangan barang.  Waspada, 
bandar yang satu ini kuat sekali menunggu barangnya & tampaknya mulai 
nakal.  Jadi 
 
utk 
yang mid-long term investor, it's time to 
buy.
 
Tentu 
saja, saya DISCLAIMER..
 
 




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] MEDC

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa










    Pak
Budi S termasuk orang pinter
- yg telah biasa dg ketinggian2 …See you at
the top…

 

:) Saat ini si-kon keberadaan di market - tidak lg merasa
gamang, ya…

 

 

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Subject: [saham] MEDC

 

MEDC terlihat telah menyentuh highest pricenya , buy
di 4175, yang ngerasa ketinggian boleh short level tsb,yang bodo seperti saya
akab beli di highestnya, yang nonton aja dan komentar sesudah kejadian
silahkan, good luck

 
  
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[obrolan-bandar] MEDC

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik budi suryono



MEDC terlihat telah menyentuh highest pricenya , buy di 4175, yang ngerasa ketinggian boleh short level tsb,yang bodo seperti saya akab beli di highestnya, yang nonton aja dan komentar sesudah kejadian silahkan, good luck
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Right Issue MEGA

2006-02-28 Terurut Topik deni hamzah



Dibandingkan saham banking lainnya, saham bank mega termasuk saham yang nggak terlalu likuid, pergerakannya juga lama.Kalo liat dari kinerja dia di 2005 kayaknya lebih baik invest di saham bank lain yang jelas jelas masih lebih murah (BNII,BMRI) dan prospeknya bagus (BBRI).Kalo gw dah punya Mega, mikir 2x deh buat beli right dengan harga segitu, kalo dah chuan mending take profit switch ke saham lain atau mendingan tunggu waktu rightnya listing di bursa."Victor D. W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Bank MEGA akan right issue 18 april nanti pada harga premium 2500. skarang harga nya baru 2100 ada saran dari temen temen disini? bagaimana dengan analisa nya?     tolong info nya yah.     thx   Relax. Yahoo! Mail  virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!  
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