Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
maksud pak oentoeng, yang ngeshort TINS bakalan game over ya kan pa..? bravo pak oentoeng...! swan silo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: info penting nih...arahnya ke utara ato keselatan bozz?soalnya pemodal kecil nih barumasuk kmrn. - Original Message From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:35:28 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) apakah maksudnya supaya kita nggak berani jualan tins dulu biar BD bisa buang barang duluan ... yok kita tungguin apa kejadian sore ini On 4/13/07, Tonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] indah.com wrote: maksudnya apa ni pak oen? mo dikerek kayak bendera apa mo dijeblosin? tp kayaknya asyikk jg nonton aksi boss oentoeng.. nyokk kita nonton the battle ... - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS... .Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
Pak Oen Bisa lebih jelas gak nueh info-nyaaa... Hehehh... Ngeraba-raba repot nanti. Thanks. - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
kalo gitu short ANTM donk?? hehehe akhirnya hari ini merah juga... guyur terus deh... JG - Original Message - From: Tonny To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) maksudnya apa ni pak oen? mo dikerek kayak bendera apa mo dijeblosin? tp kayaknya asyikk jg nonton aksi boss oentoeng.. nyokk kita nonton the battle ... - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING!
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] pertanyaan tentang Proyek pemipaan Bakrie Brothers
thanks. - Original Message From: Irmandita Wahyu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:23:02 AM Subject: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] pertanyaan tentang Proyek pemipaan Bakrie Brothers Infonya proyek ini batal karena cadangan gas yang ada di kalimantan di prioritaskan untuk LNG Bontang dan pupuk Kaltim. BNBR akan berlaku seperti PGas yaitu sebagai trader gas dan transportir dengan pola toll fee - Pesan Asli Dari: anton ie [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 8:28:41 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] pertanyaan tentang Proyek pemipaan Bakrie Brothers Rekan rekan Milis yang terhormat... .. apakah ada yang tau kelanjutan proyek pemipaan Kalimantan Jawa BNBR? saya juga tidak terlalu mengerti tentang proyek ini, pemerintah seperti yang saya baca selalu membicarakan bahwa BNBR harus mencari sendiri buyer dan seller gas nya untuk dialirkan melalui pipa tersebut pertanyaan saya, apakah ada yg tau, apakah BNBR hanya bertindak sebagai pihak yang mendapatkan hak untuk membangun pipa di jalur tersebut? biaya pembangunan pipa bukan ditanggung oleh pemerintah? maksud saya mereka bukan sbg kontraktor yg mendapat order dari pemerintah untuk membangun pipa yah? Jadi BNBR membangun pipa, dan income yg mereka terima nantinya dari mana yah? Apabila ada anggota milis yang sangat update mengenai proyek ini, saya sangat berterima kasih atas bantuannya. Thanks anton Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
Sepertinya mau koreksi dulu ya p oentoeng tadi ANTM empet nyetuh 14 650 kan ?? apa nungguin adiknya TINS naik antm turun.he..he biar bs salaman ?? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanto Winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Oen Bisa lebih jelas gak nueh info-nyaaa... Hehehh... Ngeraba-raba repot nanti. Thanks. - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING!
[obrolan-bandar] BUY TMPI, TRUB, TINS NOW!!!.......bmri?
bmri nampaknya boleh juga dikoleksi...hari ini mudah2an bisa nembus harga tertinggi baru..selain itu ada berita positif.npl turun jadi 4,5%, lepas dari pengawasan bi, sehingga lebih terbuka utk ekspansi kredit, gcg nya juga semakin baik.. - Original Message From: V. Dhany Setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:40:26 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY TMPI, TRUB, TINS NOW!!! when u buy, i already sold mine... accidentally hehehe... regards - Original Message - From: Tekaer To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY TMPI, TRUB, TINS NOW!!! The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT Bank Niaga Tbk. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to administrator@ bniaga.co. id and then delete it from your system. PT Bank Niaga Tbk is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265
[obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
Dari dulu meraba2 duit memang sulit pak, apalagi duit orang. Yang jelas posting tsb SENGAJA saya kirim sblm rehat. Pengen tahu dampaknya thd SKENARIO BOZZ selanjutnya. Toh nggak semua trader di BEJ nimbrung di Waroeng Embah. Tapi saya tahu BOZZ lagi on line sekarang. Hehehe Kalau pengen NGESOT TINS pun nggak ada yg ngelarang. Apalagi ANTM Yang jelas transaksi mereka HARI INI TIDAK ADA HUBUNGANNYA dengan KOMODITAS. Semoga Embah bisa ngasih penjelasan bandarmologi-nya. Kalau saya khan cuman bisa ngeluarin dongeng... Yang jelas sedang terjadi PIBU di dunia persilatan... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanto Winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Oen Bisa lebih jelas gak nueh info-nyaaa... Hehehh... Ngeraba-raba repot nanti. Thanks. - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING!
[obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
mungkin akan ada info jelas mengenai stock splitnya TINS sore ini... Soalnya tadi pagi di metroTV, ada info katanya rencana Stock Split TINS akan diajukan pada RUPSLB ini.. ada yang bisa confirm gak? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanto Winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Oen Bisa lebih jelas gak nueh info-nyaaa... Hehehh... Ngeraba-raba repot nanti. Thanks. - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING!
[obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
pusing... kalau saja ngomongnya Don't ever think to SHORT TINS! itu BRAVO!!! jangan2... 16000?!! tapi yg ini, agak bingung nih Don't ever think... SHORT TINS?! Hmm... tp kalau dilihat dari nadanya, sepertinya pak Oen menantang org yg berani short TINS. Ah, semoga saja... Atau begini... Pak Oen itu paling hobby liatin yg lagi/bakal cium2an. Mungkin maksud dia ANTM bakal ciuman sama TINS lagi. Ciumannya bisa beberapa macem lho. Ada cium2 atas (high ANTM=16000, wah kalo ini mah orgasme), ada cium2 tengah (Current ANTM, mgkn sekitar 15000-an, still full of passion). Kalau cium2 bawah, itu yg gawat utk ANTM (ED). Hehe... betul tidak pak Oen? Pak Oen 'kan suka yg hot2. Eagerly waiting for your next posting, Pak Oen. Salam, -Darmawan --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksud pak oentoeng, yang ngeshort TINS bakalan game over ya kan pa..? bravo pak oentoeng...! swan silo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: info penting nih...arahnya ke utara ato keselatan bozz?soalnya pemodal kecil nih barumasuk kmrn. - Original Message From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:35:28 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) apakah maksudnya supaya kita nggak berani jualan tins dulu biar BD bisa buang barang duluan ... yok kita tungguin apa kejadian sore ini On 4/13/07, Tonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] indah.com wrote: maksudnya apa ni pak oen? mo dikerek kayak bendera apa mo dijeblosin? tp kayaknya asyikk jg nonton aksi boss oentoeng.. nyokk kita nonton the battle ... - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS... .Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
jadi ada dua artinyajangan mikir2 short TINSatau Jangan pernah befikir untuk ngeshort TINS... yang mana dunk oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dari dulu meraba2 duit memang sulit pak, apalagi duit orang. Yang jelas posting tsb SENGAJA saya kirim sblm rehat. Pengen tahu dampaknya thd SKENARIO BOZZ selanjutnya. Toh nggak semua trader di BEJ nimbrung di Waroeng Embah. Tapi saya tahu BOZZ lagi on line sekarang. Hehehe Kalau pengen NGESOT TINS pun nggak ada yg ngelarang. Apalagi ANTM Yang jelas transaksi mereka HARI INI TIDAK ADA HUBUNGANNYA dengan KOMODITAS. Semoga Embah bisa ngasih penjelasan bandarmologi-nya. Kalau saya khan cuman bisa ngeluarin dongeng... Yang jelas sedang terjadi PIBU di dunia persilatan... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanto Winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Oen Bisa lebih jelas gak nueh info-nyaaa... Hehehh... Ngeraba-raba repot nanti. Thanks. - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan
Profit soars because on leaseback ships not because increase in performance, kinda window dressing though, be careful. On 4/13/07, Abraham Sihombing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Berlian Laju Tanker Net Profit Soars 86.81% StockWatch (April 10, 2007 - 08:47:07 AM) - Ocean transportation company PT Berlian Laju Tanker Tbk (BLTA) booked net profit of IDR1.205 trillion (IDR303 per share) in 2006, rising sharply about 86.81% from IDR645.186billion (IDR159 per share) in 2005. The net profit rose significantly after the company booked other net revenues of IDR267.644 billion versus other expenses of IDR292.836 billion that boosted the pre-tax profit from IDR652.986 billion to IDR1.214trillion. Besides, the company also booked revenue of IDR3.074 trilllion, rising about 17.46% from IDR2.617 trillion, which lifted the gross profit form IDR1.049 trillion to IDR1.123 trillion although direct expenses rose from IDR1.569 trillion to IDR1.951 trilllion. But the operating profit climbed up only slightly at IDR946.392 billion from IDR945.822 billion since the operating expense stepped up to IDR175.901 billion from IDR102.753 billion. (abr/bud) -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Bettina Tan *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2007 9:34 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan Where's come the rumor? tanker rate is slipping.. On 4/13/07, *Irmandita Wahyu* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rumornya BLTA lagi ditaksir berat (mo dibeli) sama perusahaan pelayaran petikemas dari Denmark yaitu FRONTLINES. Selain itu penjualana naik 17,5% dan laba bersihnya naik 86,8%. salam - Pesan Asli Dari: V. Dhany Setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 8:42:37 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan sorry, any particular reason why we should watch blta..? any relation with the danatama news? sorry for this foolish but sincere question... - Original Message - *From:* Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2007 8:16 AM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan watch BLTA then On 4/12/07, *komaru muchtar* komar2002sg@ yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan JAKARTA (SINDO)- Bursa Efek Jakarta (BEJ) melarang PT Danatama Makmur melakukan aktivitas perdagangan di BEJ sejak kemarin, 12 April 2007. Pasalnya BEJ menilai Danatama tidak melakukan prinsip tata kelola perusahaan dengan baik. Terhitung sejak tanggal 12 April 2007, tidak diperkenankan melakukan aktivitas perdagangan di bursa sampai pengumuman lebih lanjut, terang Kadiv Keanggotaan BEJ, Bambang Widodo, di Jakarta, kemarin. Bambang mengatakan, sanksi tersebut disebabkan karena Danatama tidak melakukan pencatatan secara benar atas transaksi jual maupun beli dan penyetoran atau penarikan efek untuk kepentingan nasabah. Selain itu perusahaan tidak melakukan pengelolaan perusahaan secara baik, ujarnya. Sementara itu Direktur Pemeriksaan BEJ Justitia Tripurwasani mengatakan dilarangnya Danatama untuk beraktivitas dikarenakan hasil audit operasional yang dilakukan BEJ, menemunkan good corporate governance (GCG) yang dilakukan oleh Danatama tidak baik. Selain itu BEJ juga menemukan adanya rangkap jabatan yang dilakukan oleh direksi Danatama di perusahaan efek lain. Menurutnya hal ini bertentangan dengan aturan Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan. Akibat hal-hal yang kita temukan, maka kita memutuskan untuk melarang Danatama melakukan aktivitas perdagangan, ujar ketika dihubungi wartawan di Jakarta, kemarin. Mengenai adanya unsur merugikan nasabah, Justitia belum bisa berbicara jauh, hal itu katanya perlu pendalaman lebih lanjut. Namun, kalau ada nasabah yang merasa dirugikan oleh Danatama, maka BEJ siap menindaklanjutinya. Apakah merugikan nasabah atau tidak, tergantung nasabahnya, kalau ada pengaduan, tentu kita akan tindak lanjuti, tambahnya. Justitia menjelaskan pelarangan aktivitas perdagangan terhadap Danatama akan terus berlangsung sampai Danatama memenuhi persyaratan yang diminta oleh BEJ. Kalau mereka sudah mematuhi aturan yang ada di pasar modal, tentu kita akan cabut larangan tersebut, ujar dia. Menurut Justitia ditemukannya pelanggaran yang dilakukan oleh Danatama berawal dari audit operasional yang dilakukan oleh BEJ kepada broker-broker. Sebenarnya tidak ada audit khusus, audit ini biasa kita lakukan ke broker-broker setiap harinya, tambah dia, Justitia mengatakan audit ini akan terus dilakukan BEJ untuk melindungi kepentingan nasabah yang bertransaksi. Saat ini nilai transaksi di BEJ cukup besar, harapan kita nasabah tidak ada yang dirugikan. Untuk itu perlu
[obrolan-bandar] 4/13/2007 9:01:16 AM Dow Jones LME Tin Warehouse Stocks -190 MT To 8,845 MT
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY TMPI, TRUB, TINS NOW!!!.......bmri?
03.27 BMRI 3025...udah terlanjur terlalu cepat lepas..nih Gimana apa bisa masuk lagi ? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], swan silo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bmri nampaknya boleh juga dikoleksi...hari ini mudah2an bisa nembus harga tertinggi baru..selain itu ada berita positif.npl turun jadi 4,5%, lepas dari pengawasan bi, sehingga lebih terbuka utk ekspansi kredit, gcg nya juga semakin baik.. - Original Message From: V. Dhany Setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:40:26 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY TMPI, TRUB, TINS NOW!!! when u buy, i already sold mine... accidentally hehehe... regards - Original Message - From: Tekaer To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY TMPI, TRUB, TINS NOW!!! The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT Bank Niaga Tbk. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to administrator@ bniaga.co. id and then delete it from your system. PT Bank Niaga Tbk is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. __ __ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265
[obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........TIMAH BELOM MAU STOCK SPLIT
timah belom mau stock split baca detikfinance...laba Q1 cuman 100 M --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pusing... kalau saja ngomongnya Don't ever think to SHORT TINS! itu BRAVO!!! jangan2... 16000?!! tapi yg ini, agak bingung nih Don't ever think... SHORT TINS?! Hmm... tp kalau dilihat dari nadanya, sepertinya pak Oen menantang org yg berani short TINS. Ah, semoga saja... Atau begini... Pak Oen itu paling hobby liatin yg lagi/bakal cium2an. Mungkin maksud dia ANTM bakal ciuman sama TINS lagi. Ciumannya bisa beberapa macem lho. Ada cium2 atas (high ANTM=16000, wah kalo ini mah orgasme), ada cium2 tengah (Current ANTM, mgkn sekitar 15000-an, still full of passion). Kalau cium2 bawah, itu yg gawat utk ANTM (ED). Hehe... betul tidak pak Oen? Pak Oen 'kan suka yg hot2. Eagerly waiting for your next posting, Pak Oen. Salam, -Darmawan --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ wrote: maksud pak oentoeng, yang ngeshort TINS bakalan game over ya kan pa..? bravo pak oentoeng...! swan silo swan_groups@ wrote: info penting nih...arahnya ke utara ato keselatan bozz?soalnya pemodal kecil nih barumasuk kmrn. - Original Message From: James Arifin james.arifin@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:35:28 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) apakah maksudnya supaya kita nggak berani jualan tins dulu biar BD bisa buang barang duluan ... yok kita tungguin apa kejadian sore ini On 4/13/07, Tonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] indah.com wrote: maksudnya apa ni pak oen? mo dikerek kayak bendera apa mo dijeblosin? tp kayaknya asyikk jg nonton aksi boss oentoeng.. nyokk kita nonton the battle ... - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS... .Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan
Yeuw
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007
15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA
needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend
collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I
believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang
market udah close, TINS dari candlestick menuju ke selatan, yang tadi BUY selamat dititip bandar dulu barangnya ntar mungkin 1 minggu, 1 bulan atau bahkan 1 tahun baru diambil balik. stock split hanya rumor, siap-siap hari senin namanya juga millis obrolan bandar, yach pada bandar semua . yang amatir langsung beli tanpa lihat TA dan dicerna tulisannya pak oen, jadi 'ONENG' dech
Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
hebat, harga PTBA = harga UNTR, yakin banget! kalau untuk jangka waktu 2-4 tahun ke depan yach sama saja bohong, semua sudah tau kalau saya yakin bisa 10rb untuk 2 - 4 tahun asal semua proyek PTBA jalan saya simpan posting ini buat mr lee On 4/13/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Thanks a lot Mr. Lee jm - Original Message - *From:* Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience . -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg *.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Aiyoo
Masa sih ke Tujuh ribu?? Mendingan masuk BUMI denk, asetnya kan lebih
gede daripada Petak Baru..
Short Baby ! Short!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan
Yeuw
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007
15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA
needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend
collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I
believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
.
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Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
So...PTBA will go up to 7000+ ? - Pesan Asli Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 3:37:09 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Thanks a lot Mr. Lee jm - Original Message - From: Lee Cwan Yeuw To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience . Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Klo double track KA jalan seperti pak EKA bilang seh mungkin saja, gimana pak Eka sudah ada signal utk masuk ??? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Deden Hafid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So...PTBA will go up to 7000+ ? - Pesan Asli Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 3:37:09 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Thanks a lot Mr. Lee jm - Original Message - From: Lee Cwan Yeuw To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience . Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
saya gabungkan semua email mr lee biar lebih ngerti kalau baca i am an investor, kira-kira kalau jadi jadi investor itu jangka waktu 4 tahun (sampai tahun 2011) ndak? be patience, kalau sabar 1 tahun ndak apa-apa kalau disuruh sampe 4 tahun kalau ptba misalnya turun ke 2rb lagi, kalau seorang investor cut loss nggak? beli saham berdasarkan tulisan orang lain yang sangat meyakinkan = .. sekadar perbandingan 3 jan harga ptba 3675, 13 apr harga ptba 3675(high) 3 jan harga antm 8150, 13 apr harga antm 14600 regards Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience On 4/13/07, Deden Hafid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So...PTBA will go up to 7000+ ? - Pesan Asli Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 3:37:09 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Thanks a lot Mr. Lee jm - Original Message - *From:* Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience . -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *. -- Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesiahttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http://id.yahoo.com/yang baru!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
please short. Mr Bear
The Real Short Seller have big money as guarantee
How about you ?
bear likes russian rollet
Bull likes American Dream
Different with me, I buy prospect, 'cause I don't have resources in my
country.
See, april - a years ago.
I wait your short.
once again - please short.
- Original Message
From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 4:20:27PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Aiyoo
Masa sih ke Tujuh ribu?? Mendingan masuk BUMI denk, asetnya kan lebih
gede daripada Petak Baru..
Short Baby ! Short!
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan
Yeuw
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007
15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA
needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend
collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I
believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
.
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[obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
Pusing juga kalau ditanggepin macem2 gini pak... Yang jelas hari ini yg suka TA silahkan dianalisa pake TA, demikian juga FA. Tapi yg jelas TIDAK ADA perubahan secara fundamental. Anggaplah hari ini ANTM demikian pula TINS PROFIT TAKING biasa aja. Tapi utk dongeng hari ini pastinya ADA. Awalnya SOPIR ANTM akhir2 ini khan DEBUTAN BARU... Karena gayanya yg UGAL2AN...ini memancing BOZZ utk ngasih PELAJARAN! Dan HARI INI kelihatan BAKAL BARU tersebut sudah MUNTABER. Akibat serangan Demam Berdarah, Malaria, KenZing manis, dll...kelihatannya KOMPLIKASI AKUT. Dari harga 16REBU sampai hari ini kalau nggak MUNTAH DARAH, akan dilayani BOZZ sampai menutup LUBANG MENGANGA di bawah juga BOLEH!? Kaitannya dg TINS, kemarin LUBANGNYA sdh DITUTUP dulu, jadi relatif AMAN. Saat ini ANTM sama TINS lagi KEJAR2an...HUNT TO BE HUNTED Takutnya tadi kalau ada yg ngesot TINS bisa dijadikan PERANGKAP oleh BOZZ. Tapi kalau ada yg jual utk PROFIT TAKING khan nggak bisa dilarang. Itu cuman warning utk jaga2 aja...karena PIBU sebenarnya di ANTM. Bicara rekomendasi, saya tdk ada rekmd lagi; 1. BUY TINS, kalau 11 ribu (wkt itu) IYA, tapi kalau sekarang NO COMMENT. 2. Demikian BUY ANTM, karena saya rekomendnya di 8000. Bagaimanapun kerja (ngomporin) itu harus ada BATASNYA Pelajaran hari ini menurut saya adalah; Kalau pengen berkarir jadi BAKAL jadilah ikan HIU yg bisa BERSAHABAT dg IKAN PAUS. Seperti pesen Embah ke saya... BOZZ saat ini TERTAWA2 sampai kedengaran di tempat saya. Bagaimanapun SALUTE atas KEMENANGAN ANDA!!! Oentoeng The Storyteller. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pusing... kalau saja ngomongnya Don't ever think to SHORT TINS! itu BRAVO!!! jangan2... 16000?!! tapi yg ini, agak bingung nih Don't ever think... SHORT TINS?! Hmm... tp kalau dilihat dari nadanya, sepertinya pak Oen menantang org yg berani short TINS. Ah, semoga saja... Atau begini... Pak Oen itu paling hobby liatin yg lagi/bakal cium2an. Mungkin maksud dia ANTM bakal ciuman sama TINS lagi. Ciumannya bisa beberapa macem lho. Ada cium2 atas (high ANTM=16000, wah kalo ini mah orgasme), ada cium2 tengah (Current ANTM, mgkn sekitar 15000-an, still full of passion). Kalau cium2 bawah, itu yg gawat utk ANTM (ED). Hehe... betul tidak pak Oen? Pak Oen 'kan suka yg hot2. Eagerly waiting for your next posting, Pak Oen. Salam, -Darmawan --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ wrote: maksud pak oentoeng, yang ngeshort TINS bakalan game over ya kan pa..? bravo pak oentoeng...! swan silo swan_groups@ wrote: info penting nih...arahnya ke utara ato keselatan bozz?soalnya pemodal kecil nih barumasuk kmrn. - Original Message From: James Arifin james.arifin@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:35:28 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) apakah maksudnya supaya kita nggak berani jualan tins dulu biar BD bisa buang barang duluan ... yok kita tungguin apa kejadian sore ini On 4/13/07, Tonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] indah.com wrote: maksudnya apa ni pak oen? mo dikerek kayak bendera apa mo dijeblosin? tp kayaknya asyikk jg nonton aksi boss oentoeng.. nyokk kita nonton the battle ... - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS... .Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
[obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
Oh, rupanya ini toh, maksudnya Pak Oen. Congrats, Mr. Oen, you finally managed to get Mr. FS write in Indonesian!!! It's a big success, you know! May this achievement also translate to stock market success, too. To Mr. FS, is it not about time for you to give some us your enlightening opinions again? What is your take on ANTM TINS? Your opinions and views will be greatly appreciated! Regards, -Darmawan --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jadi ada dua artinyajangan mikir2 short TINSatau Jangan pernah befikir untuk ngeshort TINS... yang mana dunk oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dari dulu meraba2 duit memang sulit pak, apalagi duit orang. Yang jelas posting tsb SENGAJA saya kirim sblm rehat. Pengen tahu dampaknya thd SKENARIO BOZZ selanjutnya. Toh nggak semua trader di BEJ nimbrung di Waroeng Embah. Tapi saya tahu BOZZ lagi on line sekarang. Hehehe Kalau pengen NGESOT TINS pun nggak ada yg ngelarang. Apalagi ANTM Yang jelas transaksi mereka HARI INI TIDAK ADA HUBUNGANNYA dengan KOMODITAS. Semoga Embah bisa ngasih penjelasan bandarmologi-nya. Kalau saya khan cuman bisa ngeluarin dongeng... Yang jelas sedang terjadi PIBU di dunia persilatan... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanto Winarto susanto_winarto@ wrote: Pak Oen Bisa lebih jelas gak nueh info-nyaaa... Hehehh... Ngeraba-raba repot nanti. Thanks. - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Hi Mr Lee,
wait for short?? hahaha :).
i guess you are a real investor but (no offense).
i respect your vision for PTBA but it seems PGAS is better :)
happy weekend to all
On 4/13/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
please short. Mr Bear
The Real Short Seller have big money as guarantee
How about you ?
bear likes russian rollet
Bull likes American Dream
Different with me, I buy prospect, 'cause I don't have resources in my
country.
See, april - a years ago.
I wait your short.
once again - please short.
- Original Message
From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 4:20:27PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Aiyoo
Masa sih ke Tujuh ribu?? Mendingan masuk BUMI denk, asetnya kan lebih
gede daripada Petak Baru..
Short Baby ! Short!
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan
Yeuw
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007
15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA
needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend
collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I
believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
.
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Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Andree..
In my opinion
In the bull market, we need short sellers. They are hero for investors.
In the bear market, we hate short sellers. They like a ghost.
I believe the 7 stars will save.
Remember.. when speculators do short (not real short selling) in TINS on
March 27- April 10.
What's happenned? The price jump again.
How about ANTM ? Mr. James Arifeen gives us the TA indicator - fibonacci-. If
you are short seller.. you are the winner.
For me, I don't care.. the price down or up.. As an investor I think ...
until now... This is a bull market. So...If we enter a bear market... I will
sell a half of my port folio... and be a short seller.
Talking about PTBA.. PTBA is not my favorite
My Favourite are 7 stars.
But after I heard information from my friend... I believe.
So..believe or not depends on you.
I just give an information.
Thank's for you to collect my email.
Best regards
- Original Message
From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 4:40:43PM
Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
saya gabungkan semua email mr lee biar lebih ngerti kalau baca
i am an investor, kira-kira kalau jadi jadi investor itu jangka waktu 4 tahun
(sampai tahun 2011) ndak?
be patience, kalau sabar 1 tahun ndak apa-apa kalau disuruh sampe 4 tahun
kalau ptba misalnya turun ke 2rb lagi, kalau seorang investor cut loss nggak?
beli saham berdasarkan tulisan orang lain yang sangat meyakinkan = ..
sekadar perbandingan
3 jan harga ptba 3675, 13 apr harga ptba 3675(high)
3 jan harga antm 8150, 13 apr harga antm 14600
regards
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
PTBA needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
On 4/13/07, Deden Hafid dedenhafid1@ yahoo.co. id wrote:
So...PTBA will go up to 7000+ ?
- Pesan Asli
Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com.sg
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 3:37:09
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan Yeuw
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
..
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Kalau salah seorang Suheng saya punya target 3950 paling lambat awal
Juni.
Tapi melihat SOPIR PTBA yg dibelakang kemudi saat ini, menurut saya
NGGAK USAH menunggu real foreigner.
Saya OPTIMIS harga tersebut akan TERCAPAI LEBIH CEPAT.
Kalau perlu BULAN INI...
Ini semua bagi saya tdk ada kaitannya dg Double Track, kaitan harga
komoditas, dst
Seperti biasa dengan TANGAN KOSONG (tanpa TA, FA...)
Cuman ketemu sopirnya di terminal, sudah tahu mau dibawa kemana
saham ini.
regards
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
please short. Mr Bear
The Real Short Seller have big money as guarantee
How about you ?
bear likes russian rollet
Bull likes American Dream
Different with me, I buy prospect, 'cause I don't
have resources in my country.
See, april - a years ago.
I wait your short.
once again - please short.
- Original Message
From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 4:20:27PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Aiyoo
Masa sih ke Tujuh ribu?? Mendingan masuk BUMI denk, asetnya kan
lebih
gede daripada Petak Baru..
Short Baby ! Short!
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@
wrote:
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: jammin@ jammin@
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan
Yeuw
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007
15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA
needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend
collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I
believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
WOW It should be a great investment then Have you bought it for ur self? jm - Original Message - From: Lee Cwan Yeuw To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 15:37 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Thanks a lot Mr. Lee jm - Original Message - From: Lee Cwan Yeuw To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience . -- Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
bukanya sama ohm fred...intinya jangan berfikir he3 lakukan saja yang kamu
inginkan ia kan pak oen
- Original Message
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:43:13 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN -
SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
jadi ada dua artinya jangan mikir2 short TINSatau Jangan pernah
befikir untuk ngeshort TINS...
yang mana dunk
oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Dari dulu meraba2 duit memang sulit pak, apalagi duit orang.
Yang jelas posting tsb SENGAJA saya kirim sblm rehat.
Pengen tahu dampaknya thd SKENARIO BOZZ selanjutnya.
Toh nggak semua trader di BEJ nimbrung di Waroeng Embah.
Tapi saya tahu BOZZ lagi on line sekarang.
Hehehe
Kalau pengen NGESOT TINS pun
nggak ada yg ngelarang.
Apalagi ANTM
Yang jelas transaksi mereka HARI INI TIDAK ADA HUBUNGANNYA dengan
KOMODITAS.
Semoga Embah bisa ngasih penjelasan bandarmologi- nya.
Kalau saya khan cuman bisa ngeluarin dongeng...
Yang jelas sedang terjadi PIBU di dunia persilatan.. .
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Susanto Winarto
susanto_winarto@ ... wrote:
Pak Oen
Bisa lebih jelas gak nueh info-nyaaa.. .
Hehehh.. .
Ngeraba-raba repot nanti.
Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: oentoeng_q
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS... .Re:
BLUECHIPS
DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!?
Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant
More closer with your monitor
Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!?
Wait until closing TODAY...
What will happen?
Let's see...
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] TINS NGUAMUKK dan unsp
Peta=map Baru=new What kind of map (place) you wanna know? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw Sent: 13 April 2007 14:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS NGUAMUKK dan unsp I know about you , when you tell us about The Brilliance. Schroeder ? Ehrliecheit wahrt am langsten. You are The Brilliance. Budi is brillliance. In the end of January, my friend ask me, Do you know about PeTaBAru? What is that? Could you help me to know about that? - Original Message From: budi machribie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 9:22:03PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] TINS NGUAMUKK dan unsp Kapan ada yg pakai nama Lu Cuan Yo _ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw Sent: 12 April 2007 9:54 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS NGUAMUKK dan unsp be wise, boy. Good is not good where better is expected hold - state owned company - TINS = ANTM = PGAS TLKM = ISAT BBRI = BMRI The seven star state owned company You will get lucky. Lee Cwan Yeuw - Original Message From: V. Dhany Setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 9:37:05AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS NGUAMUKK dan unsp Unsp sepertinya akan kehabisan bensin dulu. Untuk yg trendfollower, mungkin sudah nggak menarik. Begitu juga dengan inco. Malah yg menarik adalah macd tins yg justru cross up lagi tuh... intp boleh diintip...? - Original Message - From: swan silo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TINS NGUAMUKK dan unsp Betul tadi salah gambar.. .ada tabahan untuk unsp keliatannya kurang meyakinkan prospeknya.. ... trim ssulwan The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT Bank Niaga Tbk. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to administrator@ bniaga.co. id and then delete it from your system. PT Bank Niaga Tbk is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. _ http://answers.yahoo.com.sg Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know http://answers.yahoo.com.sg . -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 05/04/2007 15:33 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 05/04/2007 15:33 _ http://answers.yahoo.com.sg Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know http://answers.yahoo.com.sg . -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 19:58 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 19:58
[obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - Analisa dl
Coba analisa dengan kepala dingin Q406A TINS jual 11878 ton dengan harga US$10142 menghasilkan revenue sebesar 1,072T dengan net income sebesar 146M (13.6%) Di Q107A ditulis TINS jual 14rb ton dan laba bersih 100M Apa mgkn dengan jual lebih banyak, net income lbh kecil pdhl kita tau Q107A ini harga avrg tin di 12500 ? Mestinya revenue Q107 sekitar 1.59T dengan Net income sekitar 300M Nah kalau 100M per bln sih masuk akal Ini dirut yg bermain atau wartawan yg salah kutip? Di bangkapos ditulis skrg perbln jual 5500 ton Kl kita asumsi 5000 * 9 = 45000 + 14000 = 59rb ton untuk tahun 2007 ini penjualannya Sehingga EPS untuk thn ini sekitar 3200 dengan revenue 7.78T (asumsi harga tin avrg 13500) Regards, Herman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew wijaya Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... Berdasarkan wawancara wartawan dengan Dirut PT. Timah sebagaimana dilansir detik.com bahwa pencapaian penjualan perseroan selama kwartal pertama 2007 yang mencapai 14ribu ton sedang laba bersih perseroan mencapai sekitar 100 milyar rupiah. Bila pencapaian laba bersih perseroan berdasarkan pernyataan Dirut PT. Timah tersebut dikumulasikan menjadi laba bersih per tahun maka laba bersih perkiraan perseroan bisa mencapai 400 milyar rupiah, Bila laba bersih sebesar Rp 400M dibagikan total saham akan didapat laba bersih per saham per tahun mencapai Rp 795 per saham per tahun atau sebesar Rp 199 per saham selama kwartal ke-4'2006 (P/E mencapai sekitar 18x per tahun dengan harga TINS Rp 14.400). Bila kita memperhatikan pencapaian laba bersih per saham pada IIIQ'2006 dan IVQ'2006 diperoleh Rp 120 (sd. IIIQ'2006) dan Rp 414 (sd. IVQ'2006), berarti selama kwartal ke-4'2006 diperoleh Rp 295 per saham. Dibandingkan kinerja IVQ'2006 dan IQ'2007 (sebagaimana yang dinyatakan Dirut Timah) kinerja perseroan malah terjadi penurunan padahal kita tahu harga jual logam selama IQ'2007 lebih tinggi dibandingkan harga jual pada IVQ'2006 yang lalu. Dengan harga jual logam yang lebih tinggi semestinya pencapaian laba bersih TINS bisa diatas Rp 800-an milyar pada tahun 2007 ini. betapa mengecewakan kinerja TINS, sungguh ironi... Padahal andalan utama analisis PT. Timah yang utama hanya dengan P/E ratio, dengan metode analis yang lain sesungguhnya TINS tidaklah terlalu baik. Melihat hal tersebut, maka saya sangat kecewa dengan kinerja TINS jauh bahkan jauh dari estimasi selama ini. Kemana larinya laba bersih perseroan dari yang semestinya? Oleh karena itu dan peluang pencapaian harga saham, saya merekomendasikan SELL atas semua saham PT. TIMAH, bila dulu saya pernah rekomendasikan Buy sewaktu TINS di 2500-3000 an, maka saat ini saya rekomendasikan SELL semua TINS, sudah tidak ada harapan yang cerah atas TINS, kalopun ada gain sudah minimal bahkan isue split pun masih belum mampu memberikan gain secerah ketika masih di 3000-an. Salam, Andrew Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan
Apakah ini salah satu sekuritas yang membolehkan ngeshort sampe 1 bln? - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan This is what I am afraid of. On 4/12/07, komaru muchtar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BEJ Larang Danatama Lakukan Aktivitas Perdagangan JAKARTA (SINDO)- Bursa Efek Jakarta (BEJ) melarang PT Danatama Makmur melakukan aktivitas perdagangan di BEJ sejak kemarin, 12 April 2007. Pasalnya BEJ menilai Danatama tidak melakukan prinsip tata kelola perusahaan dengan baik. Terhitung sejak tanggal 12 April 2007, tidak diperkenankan melakukan aktivitas perdagangan di bursa sampai pengumuman lebih lanjut, terang Kadiv Keanggotaan BEJ, Bambang Widodo, di Jakarta, kemarin. Bambang mengatakan, sanksi tersebut disebabkan karena Danatama tidak melakukan pencatatan secara benar atas transaksi jual maupun beli dan penyetoran atau penarikan efek untuk kepentingan nasabah. Selain itu perusahaan tidak melakukan pengelolaan perusahaan secara baik, ujarnya. Sementara itu Direktur Pemeriksaan BEJ Justitia Tripurwasani mengatakan dilarangnya Danatama untuk beraktivitas dikarenakan hasil audit operasional yang dilakukan BEJ, menemunkan good corporate governance (GCG) yang dilakukan oleh Danatama tidak baik. Selain itu BEJ juga menemukan adanya rangkap jabatan yang dilakukan oleh direksi Danatama di perusahaan efek lain. Menurutnya hal ini bertentangan dengan aturan Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan. Akibat hal-hal yang kita temukan, maka kita memutuskan untuk melarang Danatama melakukan aktivitas perdagangan, ujar ketika dihubungi wartawan di Jakarta, kemarin. Mengenai adanya unsur merugikan nasabah, Justitia belum bisa berbicara jauh, hal itu katanya perlu pendalaman lebih lanjut. Namun, kalau ada nasabah yang merasa dirugikan oleh Danatama, maka BEJ siap menindaklanjutinya. Apakah merugikan nasabah atau tidak, tergantung nasabahnya, kalau ada pengaduan, tentu kita akan tindak lanjuti, tambahnya. Justitia menjelaskan pelarangan aktivitas perdagangan terhadap Danatama akan terus berlangsung sampai Danatama memenuhi persyaratan yang diminta oleh BEJ. Kalau mereka sudah mematuhi aturan yang ada di pasar modal, tentu kita akan cabut larangan tersebut, ujar dia. Menurut Justitia ditemukannya pelanggaran yang dilakukan oleh Danatama berawal dari audit operasional yang dilakukan oleh BEJ kepada broker-broker. Sebenarnya tidak ada audit khusus, audit ini biasa kita lakukan ke broker-broker setiap harinya, tambah dia, Justitia mengatakan audit ini akan terus dilakukan BEJ untuk melindungi kepentingan nasabah yang bertransaksi. Saat ini nilai transaksi di BEJ cukup besar, harapan kita nasabah tidak ada yang dirugikan. Untuk itu perlu pengawasan intensif, jelasnya. Sementara itu saat dikonfirmasi, Senior Manager PT Danatama Makmur, Vicky Ganda Saputra belum bersedia memberikan komentarnya. Kami belum tahu itu, nanti saya cek lagi, karena saya tidak mengurusi bidang perdagangan, katanya. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
RE: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Kalau mau tahan sampai 4 tahun taruh saja di Brilliance + pakai asuransi Kinerja selama ini Tahun% 200341,77 200451,61 200522,31 200653,84 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andri Wijaya Sent: 13 April 2007 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA saya gabungkan semua email mr lee biar lebih ngerti kalau baca i am an investor, kira-kira kalau jadi jadi investor itu jangka waktu 4 tahun (sampai tahun 2011) ndak? be patience, kalau sabar 1 tahun ndak apa-apa kalau disuruh sampe 4 tahun kalau ptba misalnya turun ke 2rb lagi, kalau seorang investor cut loss nggak? beli saham berdasarkan tulisan orang lain yang sangat meyakinkan = .. sekadar perbandingan 3 jan harga ptba 3675, 13 apr harga ptba 3675(high) 3 jan harga antm 8150, 13 apr harga antm 14600 regards Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience On 4/13/07, Deden Hafid HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So...PTBA will go up to 7000+ ? - Pesan Asli Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://com.sg; \n com.sg Kepada: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 3:37:09 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Thanks a lot Mr. Lee jm - Original Message - From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \nLee Cwan Yeuw To: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \nobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience . _ HYPERLINK http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/; \n Real people. Real questions. Real answers. HYPERLINK http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/; \nShare what you know. _ Kunjungi halaman depan HYPERLINK http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http:/id.yahoo.com/; \nYahoo! Indonesia yang baru! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 19:58 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 19:58
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
masalah utama dr PTBA adalah tranportasi seperti yg sudah di bahas
kemarin-2, termasuk di Kompas.
Metro TV kemarin ada berita PT KA akan membeli lokomotif dan gerbong
pengangkut yg lebih besar tahun ini
Ini solusi sementara utk memenuhi target ptba sambil mencari
investor double track.. dan apakah sdh masuk APBN ?
Baru double track selesai produksi bisa digenjot...
Apakah anda termasuk investor double track tsb ??
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Andree..
In my opinion
In the bull market, we need short sellers. They are hero for
investors.
In the bear market, we hate short sellers. They like a ghost.
I believe the 7 stars will save.
Remember.. when speculators do short (not real short selling) in
TINS on March 27- April 10.
What's happenned? The price jump again.
How about ANTM ? Mr. James Arifeen gives us the TA indicator -
fibonacci-. If you are short seller.. you are the winner.
For me, I don't care.. the price down or up.. As an investor I
think ... until now... This is a bull market. So...If we enter a
bear market... I will sell a half of my port folio... and be a short
seller.
Talking about PTBA.. PTBA is not my favorite
My Favourite are 7 stars.
But after I heard information from my friend... I believe.
So..believe or not depends on you.
I just give an information.
Thank's for you to collect my email.
Best regards
- Original Message
From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 4:40:43PM
Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
saya gabungkan semua email mr lee biar lebih ngerti
kalau baca
i am an investor, kira-kira kalau jadi jadi investor itu jangka
waktu 4 tahun (sampai tahun 2011) ndak?
be patience, kalau sabar 1 tahun ndak apa-apa kalau disuruh sampe
4 tahun
kalau ptba misalnya turun ke 2rb lagi, kalau seorang investor cut
loss nggak?
beli saham berdasarkan tulisan orang lain yang sangat meyakinkan
= ..
sekadar perbandingan
3 jan harga ptba 3675, 13 apr harga ptba 3675(high)
3 jan harga antm 8150, 13 apr harga antm 14600
regards
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
PTBA needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
On 4/13/07, Deden Hafid dedenhafid1@ yahoo.co. id wrote:
So...PTBA will go up to 7000+ ?
- Pesan Asli
Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com.sg
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 3:37:09
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan Yeuw
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
..
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
Salut buat BOSSuntuk permainan ANTM hari ini. Lumayan juga buat olah raga jantung. hehehehe oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pusing juga kalau ditanggepin macem2 gini pak... Yang jelas hari ini yg suka TA silahkan dianalisa pake TA, demikian juga FA. Tapi yg jelas TIDAK ADA perubahan secara fundamental. Anggaplah hari ini ANTM demikian pula TINS PROFIT TAKING biasa aja. Tapi utk dongeng hari ini pastinya ADA. Awalnya SOPIR ANTM akhir2 ini khan DEBUTAN BARU... Karena gayanya yg UGAL2AN...ini memancing BOZZ utk ngasih PELAJARAN! Dan HARI INI kelihatan BAKAL BARU tersebut sudah MUNTABER. Akibat serangan Demam Berdarah, Malaria, KenZing manis, dll...kelihatannya KOMPLIKASI AKUT. Dari harga 16REBU sampai hari ini kalau nggak MUNTAH DARAH, akan dilayani BOZZ sampai menutup LUBANG MENGANGA di bawah juga BOLEH!? Kaitannya dg TINS, kemarin LUBANGNYA sdh DITUTUP dulu, jadi relatif AMAN. Saat ini ANTM sama TINS lagi KEJAR2an...HUNT TO BE HUNTED Takutnya tadi kalau ada yg ngesot TINS bisa dijadikan PERANGKAP oleh BOZZ. Tapi kalau ada yg jual utk PROFIT TAKING khan nggak bisa dilarang. Itu cuman warning utk jaga2 aja...karena PIBU sebenarnya di ANTM. Bicara rekomendasi, saya tdk ada rekmd lagi; 1. BUY TINS, kalau 11 ribu (wkt itu) IYA, tapi kalau sekarang NO COMMENT. 2. Demikian BUY ANTM, karena saya rekomendnya di 8000. Bagaimanapun kerja (ngomporin) itu harus ada BATASNYA Pelajaran hari ini menurut saya adalah; Kalau pengen berkarir jadi BAKAL jadilah ikan HIU yg bisa BERSAHABAT dg IKAN PAUS. Seperti pesen Embah ke saya... BOZZ saat ini TERTAWA2 sampai kedengaran di tempat saya. Bagaimanapun SALUTE atas KEMENANGAN ANDA!!! Oentoeng The Storyteller. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pusing... kalau saja ngomongnya Don't ever think to SHORT TINS! itu BRAVO!!! jangan2... 16000?!! tapi yg ini, agak bingung nih Don't ever think... SHORT TINS?! Hmm... tp kalau dilihat dari nadanya, sepertinya pak Oen menantang org yg berani short TINS. Ah, semoga saja... Atau begini... Pak Oen itu paling hobby liatin yg lagi/bakal cium2an. Mungkin maksud dia ANTM bakal ciuman sama TINS lagi. Ciumannya bisa beberapa macem lho. Ada cium2 atas (high ANTM=16000, wah kalo ini mah orgasme), ada cium2 tengah (Current ANTM, mgkn sekitar 15000-an, still full of passion). Kalau cium2 bawah, itu yg gawat utk ANTM (ED). Hehe... betul tidak pak Oen? Pak Oen 'kan suka yg hot2. Eagerly waiting for your next posting, Pak Oen. Salam, -Darmawan --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ wrote: maksud pak oentoeng, yang ngeshort TINS bakalan game over ya kan pa..? bravo pak oentoeng...! swan silo swan_groups@ wrote: info penting nih...arahnya ke utara ato keselatan bozz?soalnya pemodal kecil nih barumasuk kmrn. - Original Message From: James Arifin james.arifin@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:35:28 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) apakah maksudnya supaya kita nggak berani jualan tins dulu biar BD bisa buang barang duluan ... yok kita tungguin apa kejadian sore ini On 4/13/07, Tonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] indah.com wrote: maksudnya apa ni pak oen? mo dikerek kayak bendera apa mo dijeblosin? tp kayaknya asyikk jg nonton aksi boss oentoeng.. nyokk kita nonton the battle ... - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS... .Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - Analisa dl
Sepertinya banyak yang ingin jadi CEOnya Tins. Sebentar lagi RUPSnya digelar jadi bisa daftar nih. Bukan kali ini saja Bpk. Thobrani Alwi mengatakan penjualan dan laba Tins. Hari ini saya sudah cukup bermain Tins target sudah selesai. Switching ke emas abu-abu dulu. On 4/13/07, Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coba analisa dengan kepala dingin Q406A TINS jual 11878 ton dengan harga US$10142 menghasilkan revenue sebesar 1,072T dengan net income sebesar 146M (13.6%) Di Q107A ditulis TINS jual 14rb ton dan laba bersih 100M Apa mgkn dengan jual lebih banyak, net income lbh kecil pdhl kita tau Q107A ini harga avrg tin di 12500 ? Mestinya revenue Q107 sekitar 1.59T dengan Net income sekitar 300M Nah kalau 100M per bln sih masuk akal Ini dirut yg bermain atau wartawan yg salah kutip? Di bangkapos ditulis skrg perbln jual 5500 ton Kl kita asumsi 5000 * 9 = 45000 + 14000 = 59rb ton untuk tahun 2007 ini penjualannya Sehingga EPS untuk thn ini sekitar 3200 dengan revenue 7.78T (asumsi harga tin avrg 13500) Regards, Herman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew wijaya Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... Berdasarkan wawancara wartawan dengan Dirut PT. Timah sebagaimana dilansir detik.com bahwa pencapaian penjualan perseroan selama kwartal pertama 2007 yang mencapai 14ribu ton sedang laba bersih perseroan mencapai sekitar 100 milyar rupiah. Bila pencapaian laba bersih perseroan berdasarkan pernyataan Dirut PT. Timah tersebut dikumulasikan menjadi laba bersih per tahun maka laba bersih perkiraan perseroan bisa mencapai 400 milyar rupiah, Bila laba bersih sebesar Rp 400M dibagikan total saham akan didapat laba bersih per saham per tahun mencapai Rp 795 per saham per tahun atau sebesar Rp 199 per saham selama kwartal ke-4'2006(P/E mencapai sekitar 18x per tahun dengan harga TINS Rp 14.400). Bila kita memperhatikan pencapaian laba bersih per saham pada IIIQ'2006 dan IVQ'2006 diperoleh Rp 120 (sd. IIIQ'2006) dan Rp 414 (sd. IVQ'2006), berarti selama kwartal ke-4'2006 diperoleh Rp 295 per saham. Dibandingkan kinerja IVQ'2006 dan IQ'2007 (sebagaimana yang dinyatakan Dirut Timah) kinerja perseroan malah terjadi penurunan padahal kita tahu harga jual logam selama IQ'2007 lebih tinggi dibandingkan harga jual pada IVQ'2006 yang lalu. Dengan harga jual logam yang lebih tinggi semestinya pencapaian laba bersih TINS bisa diatas Rp 800-an milyar pada tahun 2007 ini. betapa mengecewakan kinerja TINS, sungguh ironi... Padahal andalan utama analisis PT. Timah yang utama hanya dengan P/E ratio, dengan metode analis yang lain sesungguhnya TINS tidaklah terlalu baik. Melihat hal tersebut, maka saya sangat kecewa dengan kinerja TINS jauh bahkan jauh dari estimasi selama ini. Kemana larinya laba bersih perseroan dari yang semestinya? Oleh karena itu dan peluang pencapaian harga saham, saya merekomendasikan SELL atas semua saham PT. TIMAH, bila dulu saya pernah rekomendasikan Buy sewaktu TINS di 2500-3000 an, maka saat ini saya rekomendasikan SELL semua TINS, sudah tidak ada harapan yang cerah atas TINS, kalopun ada gain sudah minimal bahkan isue split pun masih belum mampu memberikan gain secerah ketika masih di 3000-an. Salam, Andrew Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
yup boleh juga lebih cuan kayaknya regards On 4/13/07, budi machribie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau mau tahan sampai 4 tahun taruh saja di Brilliance + pakai asuransi Kinerja selama ini Tahun% 200341,77 200451,61 200522,31 200653,84 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andri Wijaya *Sent:* 13 April 2007 16:41 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA saya gabungkan semua email mr lee biar lebih ngerti kalau baca i am an investor, kira-kira kalau jadi jadi investor itu jangka waktu 4 tahun (sampai tahun 2011) ndak? be patience, kalau sabar 1 tahun ndak apa-apa kalau disuruh sampe 4 tahun kalau ptba misalnya turun ke 2rb lagi, kalau seorang investor cut loss nggak? beli saham berdasarkan tulisan orang lain yang sangat meyakinkan = .. sekadar perbandingan 3 jan harga ptba 3675, 13 apr harga ptba 3675(high) 3 jan harga antm 8150, 13 apr harga antm 14600 regards Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience On 4/13/07, *Deden Hafid* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So...PTBA will go up to 7000+ ? - Pesan Asli Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg Kepada: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terkirim: Jumat, 13 April, 2007 3:37:09 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Jammin... You bought PTBA yesterday Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Thanks a lot Mr. Lee jm - Original Message - *From:* Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 15:41 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA PTBA needs foreign players you can collect PTBA Some of my friend collect too wait until the real - big- foreigners come. I believe ... they will come... I am an investor, not speculator be patience . -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *. -- Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http:/id.yahoo.com/yang baru! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 19:58 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 19:58
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
IDR. 4,300,- ?
- Original Message -
From: oentoeng_q
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 6:20 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Kalau salah seorang Suheng saya punya target 3950 paling lambat awal
Juni.
Tapi melihat SOPIR PTBA yg dibelakang kemudi saat ini, menurut saya
NGGAK USAH menunggu real foreigner.
Saya OPTIMIS harga tersebut akan TERCAPAI LEBIH CEPAT.
Kalau perlu BULAN INI...
Ini semua bagi saya tdk ada kaitannya dg Double Track, kaitan harga
komoditas, dst
Seperti biasa dengan TANGAN KOSONG (tanpa TA, FA...)
Cuman ketemu sopirnya di terminal, sudah tahu mau dibawa kemana
saham ini.
regards
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
please short. Mr Bear
The Real Short Seller have big money as guarantee
How about you ?
bear likes russian rollet
Bull likes American Dream
Different with me, I buy prospect, 'cause I don't
have resources in my country.
See, april - a years ago.
I wait your short.
once again - please short.
- Original Message
From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 4:20:27PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Aiyoo
Masa sih ke Tujuh ribu?? Mendingan masuk BUMI denk, asetnya kan
lebih
gede daripada Petak Baru..
Short Baby ! Short!
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@
wrote:
Jammin...
You bought PTBA yesterday
Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
- Original Message
From: jammin@ jammin@
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
jm
- Original Message -
From:
Lee Cwan
Yeuw
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007
15:41
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
PTBA
needs foreign players
you can collect PTBA
Some of my friend
collect too
wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
I
believe ... they will come...
I am an investor, not speculator
be patience
.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDS........Re: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang)
wah... asyik nih ANTM benar2 dibikin merah meriah... guyur terus donk ke 12700, biar tutup gapnya sekalian, jadi bisa belanja lagi... Pak James dah untung banyak yah 3 hari kemarin? JG - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) apakah maksudnya supaya kita nggak berani jualan tins dulu biar BD bisa buang barang duluan ... yok kita tungguin apa kejadian sore ini On 4/13/07, Tonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya apa ni pak oen? mo dikerek kayak bendera apa mo dijeblosin? tp kayaknya asyikk jg nonton aksi boss oentoeng.. nyokk kita nonton the battle ... - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAR of LORDSRe: BLUECHIPS DOWN - SECONDLINER UP (Yin Yang) Ok BOZZ let's playHUNT TO BE HUNTED!? Thats for ANTM and TINS i meant More closer with your monitor Don't ever think..SHORT TINS!? Wait until closing TODAY... What will happen? Let's see... Formasi X Embah still on PROCESSING!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - masa sih..
TINS... warning... jangan main sembarangan... stick to TA. Lihat aja... dirutnya mulai mencla-mencle omongannya. Beberapa hal aneh : Sales 1Q di RTI disebutkan 12.000 ton Sales 1Q di detikcom disebutkan 14.000 ton Net profit 1Q disebutkan 100M.. (gile bener nih direktur... anak SMA bisa bingung lihat angka itu.. korupsinya gede amat) btw... hitungan anak SMA bilang EPS 1Q07 TINS 420 (mungkin aja salah.. anak SMA cuman hitung 5 menit.. dirutnya yang 3 bulan kerja di sana cuman lihat EPS 250) On 4/13/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/kanal.read/tahun/2007/bulan/04/tgl/13/time/133048/idnews/767034/idkanal/6 Dirutnya bilang net profit, bukan net income. Mungkin dipotong bayar utang yang jatuh tempo (?) Anyway... look at the following table: (see attachment for data) TINS stock price gains almost 480% since Dec 11, 2006, BUT TIN Cash buyer price gains less than 30%. Namun tingkat korelasinya tinggi (0.917522414), yang artinya pergerakan harga TINS searah (walau beda kecepatan) dengan TIN. *Does anybody want to explain anything? Maaf kalo bahasanya campur aduk.* [image: TIN vs TINS] Sumber : JSX, Bloomberg Regards, *Dean Earwicker* ** * * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - Analisa dl Coba analisa dengan kepala dingin Q406A TINS jual 11878 ton dengan harga US$10142 menghasilkan revenue sebesar 1,072T dengan net income sebesar 146M (13.6%) Di Q107A ditulis TINS jual 14rb ton dan laba bersih 100M Apa mgkn dengan jual lebih banyak, net income lbh kecil pdhl kita tau Q107A ini harga avrg tin di 12500 ? Mestinya revenue Q107 sekitar 1.59T dengan Net income sekitar 300M Nah kalau 100M per bln sih masuk akal Ini dirut yg bermain atau wartawan yg salah kutip? Di bangkapos ditulis skrg perbln jual 5500 ton Kl kita asumsi 5000 * 9 = 45000 + 14000 = 59rb ton untuk tahun 2007 ini penjualannya Sehingga EPS untuk thn ini sekitar 3200 dengan revenue 7.78T (asumsi harga tin avrg 13500) Regards, Herman
[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - masa sih..
Hitungan saya juga sekitar 400. Tapi saya coba cek lagi kemungkinan salah hitung. Satu-satunya yang mungkin bisa miss jauh adalah cost. Ada kemungkinan cost/tonne meningkatnya linier dengan harga timah (yang sebelumnya saya tidak perkirakan). Saya coba lihat data historikal antara rata-rata harga timah (3 bulan) dengan delivered cost/tonne dan average tin price received (dari press release TINS). Hasilnya adalah: \ tahunrata-rata harga timahdelivered cost/tonneavg tin price rcvd \ 2004 8.480 7.6938.481 2005 7.358 7.121 7.506 2006 8.7558.052 8.844 \ Terlihat bahwa sebetulnya rata-rata harga jual dari TINS (average tin price received) mendekati rata-rata harga timah. Tapi ternyata delivered cost juga ikut naik. Dan kenaikan costnya linier sehingga otomatis margin tidak bisa naik drastis. Rasio antara delivered cost dengan rata-rata harga timah sekitar 90-95%. Jadi kalau di Q1 rata-rata harga timah sekitar 12.500 maka delivered cost menjadi sekitar 11.500. Saya jadi ragu campur khawatir juga dengan angka ini. Mudah-mudahan ini skenario terjelek. Ini sekedar hitungan atas dasar historikal. Bisa saja keliru. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TINS... warning... jangan main sembarangan... stick to TA. Lihat aja... dirutnya mulai mencla-mencle omongannya. Beberapa hal aneh : Sales 1Q di RTI disebutkan 12.000 ton Sales 1Q di detikcom disebutkan 14.000 ton Net profit 1Q disebutkan 100M.. (gile bener nih direktur... anak SMA bisa bingung lihat angka itu.. korupsinya gede amat) btw... hitungan anak SMA bilang EPS 1Q07 TINS 420 (mungkin aja salah.. anak SMA cuman hitung 5 menit.. dirutnya yang 3 bulan kerja di sana cuman lihat EPS 250) On 4/13/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/kanal.read/tahun/2007/bulan/04/tgl\ /13/time/133048/idnews/767034/idkanal/6 Dirutnya bilang net profit, bukan net income. Mungkin dipotong bayar utang yang jatuh tempo (?) Anyway... look at the following table: (see attachment for data) TINS stock price gains almost 480% since Dec 11, 2006, BUT TIN Cash buyer price gains less than 30%. Namun tingkat korelasinya tinggi (0.917522414), yang artinya pergerakan harga TINS searah (walau beda kecepatan) dengan TIN. *Does anybody want to explain anything? Maaf kalo bahasanya campur aduk.* [image: TIN vs TINS] Sumber : JSX, Bloomberg Regards, *Dean Earwicker* ** * * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - Analisa dl Coba analisa dengan kepala dingin Q406A TINS jual 11878 ton dengan harga US$10142 menghasilkan revenue sebesar 1,072T dengan net income sebesar 146M (13.6%) Di Q107A ditulis TINS jual 14rb ton dan laba bersih 100M Apa mgkn dengan jual lebih banyak, net income lbh kecil pdhl kita tau Q107A ini harga avrg tin di 12500 ? Mestinya revenue Q107 sekitar 1.59T dengan Net income sekitar 300M Nah kalau 100M per bln sih masuk akal Ini dirut yg bermain atau wartawan yg salah kutip? Di bangkapos ditulis skrg perbln jual 5500 ton Kl kita asumsi 5000 * 9 = 45000 + 14000 = 59rb ton untuk tahun 2007 ini penjualannya Sehingga EPS untuk thn ini sekitar 3200 dengan revenue 7.78T (asumsi harga tin avrg 13500) Regards, Herman
Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - masa sih..
hehee.. pecat aja direksinya.. kebanyakan ngomong, performanya memble dan gak efisien On 4/14/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TINS... warning... jangan main sembarangan... stick to TA. Lihat aja... dirutnya mulai mencla-mencle omongannya. Beberapa hal aneh : Sales 1Q di RTI disebutkan 12.000 ton Sales 1Q di detikcom disebutkan 14.000 ton Net profit 1Q disebutkan 100M.. (gile bener nih direktur... anak SMA bisa bingung lihat angka itu.. korupsinya gede amat) btw... hitungan anak SMA bilang EPS 1Q07 TINS 420 (mungkin aja salah.. anak SMA cuman hitung 5 menit.. dirutnya yang 3 bulan kerja di sana cuman lihat EPS 250)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - masa sih..
Setelah detik finance memberitakan tins. Hari ini Sabtu giliran Bisnis memberitakan hal yang sama. Jelas wartawan tidak salah tulis. Kalau pun laba tins cuma 100 milyar saya lebih setuju dengan pendapat Bpk. Alfanendya cost/ton naik seiring dengan harga jual. Barangkali hari Senin bandar masih baik hati untuk menciptakan new high. Walaupun sekarang untuk PT tidak masalah karena TA juga mengatakan demikian. Konsolidasi dulu beberapa hari, seperti INCO dalam beberapa hari kemarin tidak pesta tetapi memilih konsolidasi TA terlebih dahulu sebelum rally berlanjut. Semoga week end pikiran lebih jernih. On 4/14/07, alfanendya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hitungan saya juga sekitar 400. Tapi saya coba cek lagi kemungkinan salah hitung. Satu-satunya yang mungkin bisa miss jauh adalah cost. Ada kemungkinan cost/tonne meningkatnya linier dengan harga timah (yang sebelumnya saya tidak perkirakan). Saya coba lihat data historikal antara rata-rata harga timah (3 bulan) dengan delivered cost/tonne dan average tin price received (dari press release TINS). Hasilnya adalah: \ tahunrata-rata harga timahdelivered cost/tonneavg tin price rcvd \ 2004 8.480 7.6938.481 2005 7.358 7.121 7.506 2006 8.7558.052 8.844 \ Terlihat bahwa sebetulnya rata-rata harga jual dari TINS (average tin price received) mendekati rata-rata harga timah. Tapi ternyata delivered cost juga ikut naik. Dan kenaikan costnya linier sehingga otomatis margin tidak bisa naik drastis. Rasio antara delivered cost dengan rata-rata harga timah sekitar 90-95%. Jadi kalau di Q1 rata-rata harga timah sekitar 12.500 maka delivered cost menjadi sekitar 11.500. Saya jadi ragu campur khawatir juga dengan angka ini. Mudah-mudahan ini skenario terjelek. Ini sekedar hitungan atas dasar historikal. Bisa saja keliru. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TINS... warning... jangan main sembarangan... stick to TA. Lihat aja... dirutnya mulai mencla-mencle omongannya. Beberapa hal aneh : Sales 1Q di RTI disebutkan 12.000 ton Sales 1Q di detikcom disebutkan 14.000 ton Net profit 1Q disebutkan 100M.. (gile bener nih direktur... anak SMA bisa bingung lihat angka itu.. korupsinya gede amat) btw... hitungan anak SMA bilang EPS 1Q07 TINS 420 (mungkin aja salah.. anak SMA cuman hitung 5 menit.. dirutnya yang 3 bulan kerja di sana cuman lihat EPS 250) On 4/13/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/kanal.read/tahun/2007/bulan/04/tgl\ /13/time/133048/idnews/767034/idkanal/6 Dirutnya bilang net profit, bukan net income. Mungkin dipotong bayar utang yang jatuh tempo (?) Anyway... look at the following table: (see attachment for data) TINS stock price gains almost 480% since Dec 11, 2006, BUT TIN Cash buyer price gains less than 30%. Namun tingkat korelasinya tinggi (0.917522414), yang artinya pergerakan harga TINS searah (walau beda kecepatan) dengan TIN. *Does anybody want to explain anything? Maaf kalo bahasanya campur aduk.* [image: TIN vs TINS] Sumber : JSX, Bloomberg Regards, *Dean Earwicker* ** * * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [saham] SELL semua TINS, kinerja sangat jauh dari harapan... - Analisa dl Coba analisa dengan kepala dingin Q406A TINS jual 11878 ton dengan harga US$10142 menghasilkan revenue sebesar 1,072T dengan net income sebesar 146M (13.6%) Di Q107A ditulis TINS jual 14rb ton dan laba bersih 100M Apa mgkn dengan jual lebih banyak, net income lbh kecil pdhl kita tau Q107A ini harga avrg tin di 12500 ? Mestinya revenue Q107 sekitar 1.59T dengan Net income sekitar 300M Nah kalau 100M per bln sih masuk akal Ini dirut yg bermain atau wartawan yg salah kutip? Di bangkapos ditulis skrg perbln jual 5500 ton Kl kita asumsi 5000 * 9 = 45000 + 14000 = 59rb ton untuk tahun 2007 ini penjualannya Sehingga EPS untuk thn ini sekitar 3200 dengan revenue 7.78T (asumsi harga tin avrg 13500) Regards, Herman Yahoo! Groups Links
