[obrolan-bandar] Re: Shanghai

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant

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 http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EJKSEt=5dl=onz=lq=lc=%
5En225,%5Eks200,%5Essec,%5Ehsi,%5Esti
 
 Ati ati cina ngamuk


Pak Karno,

Sepertinya China mau meningkatkan GOVERNMENT SPENDING ($58 billion) 
untuk menstimulasi pertumbuhan yg mulai melemah. Amerika masih belum 
bisa diharapkan jadi China yg harus jadi Motor..

Akibatnya harga metal naek terutama Nickel yg naik 7%

...

Asia Stocks Rise; China Gains on Government Support Speculation 

By Patrick Rial and Shani Raja

 Aug. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Asian stocks rose from a two-year low, led by 
China and Hong Kong shares on speculation the Chinese government will 
introduce measures to spur growth in the world's fastest expanding 
major economy. 

China Mobile Ltd., the world's largest cell-phone operator by users, 
gained 2 percent in Hong Kong, while Citic Securities Co., a unit of 
China's biggest investment company, jumped 10 percent, the most in 19 
months. BHP Billiton Ltd., the world's largest mining company, and 
Cnooc Ltd., China's largest offshore oil producer, led gains among 
commodities producers as oil and metals prices rebounded. 

``China is a very important economy both regionally and globally,'' 
said Kerry Series, head of Asia Pacific equities at AMP Capital 
Investors Ltd., which manages $108 billion. ``The economy has been 
slowing. The question has been what stimulus will the government 
introduce and when, and will that offset the decline of external 
demand.'' 

The MSCI Asia Pacific Index rose 0.4 percent to 123.39 as of 2:45 
p.m. in Tokyo after closing yesterday at the lowest since July 2006. 
The gauge is down 22 percent this year as soaring inflation eroded 
economic growth amid mounting writedowns and losses at the world's 
largest financial companies. 

China's CSI 300 Index surged 6 percent, the biggest rally since April 
24. Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index gained 1.6 percent. Most benchmark 
indexes in the region climbed, while Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average 
was little changed at 12,859. 

China Stocks Advance 

U.S. stocks fell yesterday, with the Standard  Poor's 500 Index 
losing 0.9 percent, after reports showed that wholesale prices rose 
and housing starts in the world's largest economy decreased. SP 500 
futures added 0.3 percent today. 

Toyota Motor Corp., the world's No. 2 automaker, fell after the Tokyo 
Shimbun reported the company will cut its global sales target. James 
Hardie Industries NV, the biggest seller of home siding in the U.S., 
tumbled after profit plunged. 

China Mobile rose to HK$93.40. In Shanghai, Citic Securities climbed 
10 percent to 18.70 yuan, the most since Jan. 10, 2007. Ping An 
Insurance (Group) Co., the nation's second-largest insurer, rose 8.3 
percent to 44.45 yuan. 

Shares advanced amid speculation regulators will summon major 
brokerages for a meeting tomorrow to discuss the declines in China, 
the world's worst performing stock market this year. A spokesman for 
the China Securities Regulatory Commission said he hasn't heard about 
the meeting. 

Government Intervention 

China's government is considering spending as much as 400 billion 
yuan ($58 billion) to stimulate the economy and may ease monetary 
policy this year, Frank Gong, head of China research at JPMorgan 
Chase  Co., wrote in a report dated yesterday. Measures would 
include tax cuts, stabilizing capital markets and boosting the 
housing market, he wrote. 

``It's obvious that China doesn't want markets to slump any 
further,'' said Kenny Tang, director of Tung Tai Securities Co. in 
Hong Kong. ``I'm sure the government will intervene.'' 

BHP climbed 4.5 percent to A$38.68. Rio Tinto Group , the world's 
third-largest mining company, jumped 4.9 percent to A$116.76. Pacific 
Metals Co., a Japanese nickel producer, rallied 6.9 percent to 700 
yen. 

Cnooc added 5.4 percent to HK$10.64. PetroChina Co., China's largest 
oil producer, gained 2.7 percent to HK$9.86. 

A measure of six metals traded on the London Metal Exchange, 
including copper and zinc, jumped 3 percent yesterday, the first gain 
in four days. Crude oil rose 1.5 percent in New York, while gold 
advanced 1.4 percent. Copper gained 3.6 percent and nickel surged 7.2 
percent. 

Lower Sales Target 

``There's still strong demand for a wide range of physical 
commodities, but how permanent this rebound in oil and metal stocks 
will be is hard to say,'' said Rob Patterson, managing director of 
Adelaide-based Argo Investments Ltd., which looks after about $3.8 
billion assets. ``The volatility in financial markets is extreme, as 
we have seen today.'' 

Toyota, which makes three quarters of its sales outside Japan, lost 
1.8 percent to 4,830 yen. The maker of Prius hybrid cars will lower 
its global sales target for 2009 to between 9.7 million and 9.8 
million vehicles from 10.4 million due to slowing U.S. sales, the 
Tokyo Shimbun said, without citing anyone. 

James Hardie slumped 2.7 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Shanghai

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
SHANGHAI: China's main stock index jumped nearly 6 percent on Wednesday because 
of hopes that the government would introduce a stimulus package to boost the 
slowing economy and aid the stock and property markets. The Shanghai Composite 
Index ended the morning up 5.89 percent at 2,482.642 points, near an intra-day 
high of 2,489.486. On Tuesday it hit a fresh 20-month, intra-day low, having 
dropped more than 60 percent from last October's peak. 

Gaining stocks in Shanghai outnumbered losers by 935 to one, with over 30 
Shanghai A shares up their 10 percent daily limits. Turnover in Shanghai A 
shares expanded to 29.7 billion yuan ($4.3 billion). That was still small 
compared to levels seen during last year's bull run but it exceeded Tuesday's 
full-day turnover of 27.6 billion yuan. 

Frank Gong, chief China economist at JPMorgan Chase, wrote on Tuesday that 
China's leaders were considering an economic stimulus package of at least 
200-400 billion yuan and might ease monetary policy by the end of the year. 

This will include tax cuts and measures to 'stabilise domestic capital 
markets' and support 'healthy development of the housing market', he said. 
Vice premier Li Keqiang said on Tuesday that China must increase domestic 
spending to keep growth on track as the global economy weakened. 

Many fund managers and analysts said that with the contents and timing of any 
stimulus package unknown, it was unclear if the package would do much to halt a 
slowdown in economic and corporate profit growth. So stocks are not necessarily 
starting any kind of extended recovery, they said. But some kind of correction 
to the market's steep fall is reasonable, so the index may move between 2,300 
and 2,600 points for a while as everybody waits to see if the positive news is 
confirmed, said Chen Huiqin, analyst at Huatai Securities. 

Much of the market sees major technical support for the index at 2,245 points, 
its high for the year 2001. Stocks surged across the board on Wednesday but 
brokerages led the gains on hopes that a stock market recovery would boost 
their commission and underwriting income. Several brokerages soared their 10 
percent limits with CITIC Securities , the biggest listed brokerage, up 10 
percent to 18.70 yuan. 

The biggest bank, Industrial  Commercial Bank of China, climbed 5.00 percent 
to 4.83 yuan while property giant Vanke jumped 7.27 percent to 7.38 yuan. 
Industrial Bank gained 6.48 percent to 24.66 yuan after saying net profit in 
the first half surged 80 percent, slightly better than its previous estimate of 
at least 70 percent growth. Railway Erju rose 5.98 percent to 5.85 yuan after 
saying net profit in the first grew 31 percent. 

Hainan Airlines surged 6.15 percent to 3.97 yuan after saying it expected its 
first-half profit to jump more than 50 percent. China South Locomotive , the 
country's biggest train maker, rose a further 7.03 percent to 3.96 yuan after 
gaining 7.25 percent on Tuesday and jumping 58 percent from its initial public 
offer price on Monday as it listed. 

Power stocks underperformed, apparently on disappointment with the size of a 
0.02 yuan per kilowatt hour tariff hike announced for thermal plants. Huaneng 
Power International, China's top electricity provider, rose 3.76 percent to 
7.72 yuan. Sundiro shot up 10 percent to 3.83 yuan after saying senior 
management would buy shares in the company. 

   

[obrolan-bandar] NICKEL NEWS

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Rita Pardede
 
One of news from IndonesianCompany.com
 
 
Xstrata Suspends Nickel Operations After Price Plunge (Update3) (Bloomberg.com)
 Xstrata Plc , the world's fourth- largest nickel refiner, suspended its 
Falcondo operations in the Dominican Republic after costs surged and metal 
prices plunged. Nickel advanced as much as 3.6 percent in London trading.
 
for more...visit Commodity News
 
 
Regards
Rita


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: NICKEL NEWS

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Nickel producer KEEMPAT TERBESAR udah engga TUTUP ONGKOS, berarti
produksi nickel akan berkurang banyak...

INCO dengan MARGIN LABA KOTOR 52% as of Q2/2008 akan TETAP JAYA...

- LABA KOTOR = SALES - HARGA POKOK

Pasti banyak yg bangkrut, dan harga nickel akan naik lagi...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rita Pardede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 One of news from IndonesianCompany.com
  
  
 Xstrata Suspends Nickel Operations After Price Plunge (Update3) 
(Bloomberg.com)
  Xstrata Plc , the world's fourth- largest nickel refiner, suspended 
its Falcondo operations in the Dominican Republic after costs surged 
and metal prices plunged. Nickel advanced as much as 3.6 percent in 
London trading.
  
 for more...visit Commodity News
  
  
 Regards
 Rita





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik yurry sugiharto
udah murah kok...jangan takut ama gosip,keep ajah saham bagus...gw punya di
harga atas tp udah lama cut loss waktu masih 1500-1400 and sekarang lg mo
ngumpulin di harga bawah...
kl gak bisa trading..keep ajah jsmr bagus,baca warren buffet buat inspirasi

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hah? Mau dibawa ke 900? Ada berita apa emangnya bos?

 Bukannya dulu targetnya mau dibawa balik ke harga IPO?

 Soalnya punya banyak nih JSMR di harga atas...

 Mbah bisa kasih petunjuk?

 Bukannya harga skrg udh murah bgt yah?

 Thanks,

 ID

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 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR

  JSMR mau dibawa ke 900..

 2008/8/20 hendi_lie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Pls help info ada apa dengan JSMR tiap hari koq tambah merosot ??


  



[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Limbono 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BUMI :
 Very Short Downtrend Line Telah Break (Garis Ungu)
 Namun Masih dalam short term downtrend (garis Hitam)
 dan baru break di 5450. 
 Rekomendasi : HOLD, CL Jika Tembus 5000 (Garis IJO)
  
 FA : DJ US Coal Nanti Malam Belum Tertebak


Pak Hendrik, 

- Garis hijaunya ko 'NGAMBANG', pak Hendrik tarik garis hijau
  caranya gimana ?.







Re: [obrolan-bandar] CONTENTS BARU

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Rita Pardede
 
Thanks ya sama usulannya.
Coba nanti saya carikan datanya.
 
Mungkin ada masukan juga dari mana datanya
 
 
Regards
Rita
 

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Kim Chi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Kim Chi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CONTENTS BARU
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:05 AM

Mbak Rita,

   Usul donk, utk price chart Base Metal jangan pake satuan LB tapi 
Ton saja.. Supaya dak usah pake kalkulator lagi.

Nim

 Rita Pardede wrote:
 Teman-teman semua.
  
 Di website *IndonesianCompany. com* 
 http://www.indonesiancompany.com, pada menu *COMMODITIES *,
 ada tambahan content berupa news terbaru seputar harga dari :
  
 - PalmOil
 - Coal
 - Tin
 - Copper
 - Nickel
 - Gold
  
 Semoga menjadi bahan pertimbangan untuk investasi
  
 Regards
 Rita
  
  





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA Update : Sideways cenderung turun

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Oil kira2 gimana pak ? Need your view pls. Tq.

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA  Update : Sideways cenderung turun


Dari MACD Optimized terlihat adanya kecenderungan DJIA akan turun
setelah tembus support kuat di 11,438.32 dan berpotensi untuk
terbentuknya double bottom

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Wah seru nih.., konsultan sama konsultan lagi diskusi 


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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Limbono 
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 BUMI :
 Very Short Downtrend Line Telah Break (Garis Ungu)
 Namun Masih dalam short term downtrend (garis Hitam)
 dan baru break di 5450. 
 Rekomendasi : HOLD, CL Jika Tembus 5000 (Garis IJO)
  
 FA : DJ US Coal Nanti Malam Belum Tertebak


Pak Hendrik, 

- Garis hijaunya ko 'NGAMBANG', pak Hendrik tarik garis hijau
  caranya gimana ?.








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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*Now you see me, now you don't type of trend analysis ha ha ha...

Elaine**
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:29 PM, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wah seru nih.., konsultan sama konsultan lagi diskusi


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  BUMI :
  Very Short Downtrend Line Telah Break (Garis Ungu)
  Namun Masih dalam short term downtrend (garis Hitam)
  dan baru break di 5450.
  Rekomendasi : HOLD, CL Jika Tembus 5000 (Garis IJO)
 
  FA : DJ US Coal Nanti Malam Belum Tertebak
 

 Pak Hendrik,

 - Garis hijaunya ko 'NGAMBANG', pak Hendrik tarik garis hijau
  caranya gimana ?.






 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Eropa minus tapi commodity plus

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja
OK ikutan stop... lagian kan bukan saya yang mulai

:D

btw..seems komodity mau short term bear rally.

have funsaya masih holiday mode

disclaimer mode on

On 8/20/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Lagi siapin breakfast,  mBah...  hehehe.
 Oke mBah, better to stop this.

 E...  darliinngg  yuhuu...
 Come here honey,  dipanggil  mBah  ...
 :P

 Hehehe...


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote:
  
   Wah  udah  pada  kurang  ajar
 sama
   mBah,  nih...
 
  It's OKE, no hard feeling... so please
 stop...
 
  EL, udah bangun belon pak Boyz ?.
 
  Ko, dia engga bikin Morning Call ? ...
 hehehe...
 



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG pagi ini akan open gap up +40.....Re: Eropa minus tapi commodity plus

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja
Oh...sorry deh kalau gitu :D

peace


On 8/20/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Embah baru bangun, cuman bisa CENGAR CENGIR liat:
 1. Tulisan pak Halim dibawah dan
 2. Reboundnya commodity dan yang lebih penting lagi
   reboundnya Euro.

 Kenaikan commodity beberapa hari yg lalu GAGAL karena
 kenaikan commodity tidak diikuti oleh kenaikan Euro artinya
 Pelaku Money market memasang taruhan berlawanan antara Euro dan
 commodity.

 Mudah mudahan posting posting BEARISH hari ini hilang dan
 embah bisa UNDUR DIRI istirahat posting hari ini.

 To pak Halim,

 Embah sering TERPAKSA posting berlawanan, malah sampe
 BERLAWANAN dengan portfolio embah sendiri untuk
 memberikan keseimbangan didalam milis. Mudah mudahan
 pak Halim bisa mengerti.

 Kalo engga percaya, coba pak Halim posting cpo BULLISH,
 embah bakal posting cpo BEARISHhehehe Kepentingannya
 bukan buat embah, pak Halim, hanya buat balancing terutama
 untuk membalance posting extrim dari orang senior seperti
 pak Halim terutama jika harganya udah DROP DALAM.

 Jika pak Halim posting bearish saat harganya masih tinggi,
 embah bisa menerima, tapi jika harga udah JATUH DALAM,
 pak Halim posting BEARISH, mau pake TA atau FA, embah
 pasti akan MELAWAN untuk memberikan BANTUAN MORIL
 bagi yang KEJEDUT... Itu saja pak Halim , tidak ada yg lain...



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik rudd haas
yup
 
JSMR tidak cocok buat trading harian
tapi buat investor only, value investor
TP 12 months range 1,700-2,000, fair enough?
terutama yang kuat dengan volatilitas komodiy..boleh keep jsmr
 
 

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From: yurry sugiharto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 1:23 PM








udah murah kok...jangan takut ama gosip,keep ajah saham bagus...gw punya di 
harga atas tp udah lama cut loss waktu masih 1500-1400 and sekarang lg mo 
ngumpulin di harga bawah...
kl gak bisa trading..keep ajah jsmr bagus,baca warren buffet buat inspirasi


On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:






Hah? Mau dibawa ke 900? Ada berita apa emangnya bos?

Bukannya dulu targetnya mau dibawa balik ke harga IPO?

Soalnya punya banyak nih JSMR di harga atas...

Mbah bisa kasih petunjuk?

Bukannya harga skrg udh murah bgt yah?

Thanks,

ID 
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS/EDGE/3G network


From: Hadiah 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:42:13 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR




JSMR mau dibawa ke 900..


2008/8/20 hendi_lie [EMAIL PROTECTED] com






Pls help info ada apa dengan JSMR tiap hari koq tambah merosot ??





 














  

[obrolan-bandar] ISO iso opo ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik selamet.sentosa
Trading limit cuma bisa sebesar saldo cash, nda bisa beli lagi kalau 
sudah jadi saham semuanya, kudu jual saham yang ada dulu atau setor 
uang lagi..? Grafik nda berfungsi?  

Selamet  



[obrolan-bandar] Re: NICKEL NEWS

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Kidod25
jgn2 selanjutnya INCO dan ANTM yg bangkrut ... cadangan di LME masih 
gede

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nickel producer KEEMPAT TERBESAR udah engga TUTUP ONGKOS, berarti
 produksi nickel akan berkurang banyak...
 
 INCO dengan MARGIN LABA KOTOR 52% as of Q2/2008 akan TETAP JAYA...
 
 - LABA KOTOR = SALES - HARGA POKOK
 
 Pasti banyak yg bangkrut, dan harga nickel akan naik lagi...
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rita Pardede call008@ 
wrote:
 
   
  One of news from IndonesianCompany.com
   
   
  Xstrata Suspends Nickel Operations After Price Plunge (Update3) 
 (Bloomberg.com)
   Xstrata Plc , the world's fourth- largest nickel refiner, 
suspended 
 its Falcondo operations in the Dominican Republic after costs 
surged 
 and metal prices plunged. Nickel advanced as much as 3.6 percent in 
 London trading.
   
  for more...visit Commodity News
   
   
  Regards
  Rita
 





[obrolan-bandar] SMGR ketinggalan kereta

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Kidod25
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?
s=SMGR.JKt=6ml=onz=mq=lp=a=c=SMCB.JK,INTP.JK

yg lain udah pada naik ...



[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik hendrik_lwww
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Limbono 
 hendrik_lwww@ wrote:
 
  BUMI :
  Very Short Downtrend Line Telah Break (Garis Ungu)
  Namun Masih dalam short term downtrend (garis Hitam)
  dan baru break di 5450. 
  Rekomendasi : HOLD, CL Jika Tembus 5000 (Garis IJO)
   
  FA : DJ US Coal Nanti Malam Belum Tertebak
 
 
 Pak Hendrik, 
 
 - Garis hijaunya ko 'NGAMBANG', pak Hendrik tarik garis hijau
   caranya gimana ?.

Walau sebenarnya menarik garis dari
candle yang sedang terbentuk saat ini
KURANG LAZIM untuk digunakan namun 
sepertinya cukup valid

Sebenarnya keberadaan garis hijau itu sendiri tidaklah terlalu 
penting,

yang penting adalah trend line di garis warna hitam
Dan saat ini BUMI MASIH DOWNTREND
dan baru BREAK jika tembus 5400 (tembud downtrend)
atau kembalik e LONG TERM UPTREND di 5800 (SOO FAR)

sebaiknya yang main BUMI janganlah TRADER PEMULA, sebab BUMI sedang 
downtrend, mungkin dibutuhkan trader sekaliber Embah, atau pak JT 
untuk main2 di BUMI, sebab kudu KETAT CL, TAKE Profit.

dalam suatu mid term downtrend, bisa aja kan terdapat short term 
uptrend (karena harga berfluktuasi) dan saat ini BUMI sedang di VERY 
SHORT TERM UPTREND.

(DI GARIS HIJAU)
nah garis hjau iu sendiri terbentuk dari LOWEST yang kemarin (4800) 
dan LOWEST hari ini (5075). 

GARIS HIJAU INI NGAMBANG.. JELAS NGAMBANG
karena memang masih dalam posisi intraday atau BISA AJA terbentuk 
LOWEST yang mau.. MAU?

nah.. KITA ASUMSIKAN lowest saat ini di hari ini adalah LOWEST untuk 
hari ini. maka kita dapatkan gaeris hijau untuk PROYEKSI VERY SHORT 
TERM UPTREND. Maka GARIS HIJAU = Sebuah Uptrend yang terbentuk dsri 
sebuah ASUMSI.. benar atau salah.. ditentukan closing..

GARIS HIJAU INI AKAN SALAH. jika pada closeng terbentuk new low (di 
bawah 5075)

karena VERY SHORT TERM, maka garis ini sangat rawan sekali patah. 
saran saya buat NEWBIE.JAUHI BUMIkalau usdah bisa ketat CL 
barulah main di BUMI...

sekian embah penjelasannya...



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dengan JSMR

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik sulistyo_winarto
Buat Mbak  Mas yang milih JSMR..tahanlah 2 taun..Salam
20/08/2008 13:03
Pilihlah TLKM, PGAS, JSMR, UNTR
Kepala Riset Recapital Securities, Poltak Hortadero mengatakan, sektor
telekomunikasi saat ini sangat terkonsolidasi dan punya kans besar
untuk bertahan. Namun, di antara beberapa perusahaan telekomunikasi
yang terdaftar di bursa, Poltak mengaku lebih menyukai saham PT Telkom
(TLKM). 
Menurutnya, TLKM selain memiliki kapitalisasi nomor satu di Indonesia,
juga memiliki portofolio yang lengkap dibanding emiten lain sejenis.
TLKM memiliki satelit, kabel, broadband, CDMA, GSM, dan lainnya. 
Dengan fundamental yang bagus dan diversifikasi produk, seperti
program terbarunya Speedy, kredit perbankan yang dialirkan juga
positif. Tak heran, Poltak menyarankan emiten ini untuk dikoleksi
jangka panjang. TLKM adalah salah satu saham yang bisa dijadikan
strategi defensif untuk kondisi saat ini. Saya rekomendasi buy TLKM,
ujarnya.
Hal senada diungkapkan pengamat pasar modal David Cornelis.
Menurutnya, dengan target pertumbuhan pendapatan TLKM 2008 yang
mencapai 15% dan dukungan fundamental yang kuat, ia merekomendasi
investor membeli sahamnya dengan target harga Rp 9.200 per lembar.
Buy on weakness TLKM di level Rp 7.000-7.300, katanya.
Selain itu, saham lain yang cukup menarik bagi David adalah PT
Perusahaan Gas Negara Tbk (PGAS). Menurutnya, perkiraan jumlah
produksi gas perseroan memang dipangkas lantaran belum selesainya
jalur pemipaan ke PLTG Muara Tawar.
Namun rencana kenaikan harga gas dan kewenangan PGAS membuat
kesepakatan harga jual dengan segmen industri, dapat meningkatan
kinerja keuangan. Pasalnya, PGAS dapat menjual gas sesuai dengan harga
di pasar. 
Selain itu perseroan juga bisa memperoleh revenue yang optimal dari
kenaikan harga bahan bakar tersebut. David pun menargetkan harga PGAS
di level Rp 3.100. Saya rekomendasikan beli PGAS ketika berada di
level rendah yaitu Rp 2.100-2.300, ucapnya.
Adapun saham PT Jasa Marga Tbk (JSMR) dinilai Ciptadana Sekuritas
cukup prospektif. Saat ini, JSMR sedang mengerjakan lima proyek
pembangunan jalan tol, yakni ruas Bogor Ring Road, Semarang-Solo,
Gempol-Pasuruan, Cengkareng-Kunciran dan Kunciran-Serpong serta
penyelesaian seksi JORR W 2 Utara (Ulujami-Kebun Jeruk). 
Proyek jalan tol yang sedang digarap perusahaan tersebut diperkirakan
akan memberikan kotribusi sekitar 30% dari ruas tol yang sudah
beroperasi sepanjang 500 km. Ciptadana memprediksi kinerja perseroan
dalam lima tahun ke depan akan meningkat, sehingga JSMR
direkomendasikan buy on weakness.
Poltak juga merekomendasi beli untuk JSMR. Menurutnya, emiten
infrastruktur ini merupakan saham yang menarik untuk dikoleksi jangka
panjang, apalagi bila proses pembangunannya sudah selesai. Hal ini
disebabkan kebutuhan masyarakat yang tinggi akan jalan bebas hambatan
di masa depan. 
Saham lain yang juga menarik adalah PT United Tractors (UNTR). Saat
ini, perseroan telah menandatangani conditional sales purchase
agreement (CSPA) untuk merampungkan akuisisi tambang batubara di
Kalimantan Tengah pada September 2008. 
UNTR telah menyiapkan dana maksimal US$ 214,5 juta untuk akuisisi
tambang tersebut, lebih rendah dibandingkan nilai akuisisi Tuah
Turangga Agung. Pasalnya, tambang yang diakuisisi masih green field
dengan cadangan batubara lebih kecil, berkalori 5.500-6.000. 
Terkait penutupan lokasi tambang PT Kaltim Prima Coal (KPV), sebagai
salah satu klien anak usaha UNTR yakni PT Pama Persada, terpaksa
menurunkan target produksi batubaranya dari 6,5 juta ton menjadi 5,9
juta ton pada 2008.
Trimegah Securities mengasumsikan produksi batubara UNTR 2008 mencapai
6,8 juta ton jika produksi batubara serta overburden removal
diturunkan masing-masing 13,2% menjadi 5,9 juta ton dan 1,5 juta bank
cubik meter (bcm). 
Trimegah menargetkan pendapatan 2008 UNTR turun 5,3% menjadi Rp
23,5triliun dan laba bersih 2008 turun 7,4% menjadi Rp 2,1 triliun.
Kami rekomendasikan buy UNTR dengan target harga Rp 14.000, paparnya.
Sedangkan Samuel Sekuritas mengatakan masih menetapkan target harga
untuk UNTR sebesar Rp 12.000 per lembar saham dengan rekomendasi hold.
Saat ini UNTR diperdagangkan pada price earning ratio 2008- 2009
sebesar 13,5 kali dan 11 kali. [E1/I4]





--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hah? Mau dibawa ke 900? Ada berita apa emangnya bos?
 
 Bukannya dulu targetnya mau dibawa balik ke harga IPO?
 
 Soalnya punya banyak nih JSMR di harga atas...
 
 Mbah bisa kasih petunjuk?
 
 Bukannya harga skrg udh murah bgt yah?
 
 Thanks,
 
 ID
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 -Original Message-
 From: Hadiah 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:42:13 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR
 
 
 JSMR mau dibawa ke 900..
 
 2008/8/20 hendi_lie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Pls help info ada apa dengan JSMR tiap hari koq tambah merosot ??
 
  
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: NICKEL NEWS

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik pemainedan
cadangan jelas masih gede. kalaupun produksi turun, tentu gak bisa 1-
2 hari dihabisin. dulu butuh hanya 2-3 bulan utk bawa stock nickel 
dr 5000 ke 30,000ton. sekarang sebaliknya bisa ga yah?? hehehe

si embah lg hot di INCO nih. hihihi... dr td sudah hajar terus ya 
mbah. skr balik ke 3700 lg (up 1.3%, pdhl nikel up 7%+)... embah 
hajar lg nggak? saya mau ikutan kl embah hajar. hehehe

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jgn2 selanjutnya INCO dan ANTM yg bangkrut ... cadangan di LME 
masih 
 gede
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  Nickel producer KEEMPAT TERBESAR udah engga TUTUP ONGKOS, berarti
  produksi nickel akan berkurang banyak...
  
  INCO dengan MARGIN LABA KOTOR 52% as of Q2/2008 akan TETAP 
JAYA...
  
  - LABA KOTOR = SALES - HARGA POKOK
  
  Pasti banyak yg bangkrut, dan harga nickel akan naik lagi...
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rita Pardede call008@ 
 wrote:
  
    
   One of news from IndonesianCompany.com
    
    
   Xstrata Suspends Nickel Operations After Price Plunge 
(Update3) 
  (Bloomberg.com)
    Xstrata Plc , the world's fourth- largest nickel refiner, 
 suspended 
  its Falcondo operations in the Dominican Republic after costs 
 surged 
  and metal prices plunged. Nickel advanced as much as 3.6 percent 
in 
  London trading.
    
   for more...visit Commodity News
    
    
   Regards
   Rita
  
 





[obrolan-bandar] It's time to entry ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Dick Q
F nett buy more than 200M. 
Agro dan Coal udah ada volume..banking juga jalan.
It's time to entry the market ?
cheers


[obrolan-bandar] BBNI...apa bener mau dibeli CCB ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik sulistyo_winarto
Dear Senior OB, apa bener green shoes 20 % BBNI mau dibeli CCB di 2050 ?
Mohon konfirmasinya thanks ya



[obrolan-bandar] BUMI and INCO bye2

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik yurry sugiharto
Bosss cukup sudah 300 dari BUMI dan 100 dari INCO dalam 1 hari

Thanks Bos BD...


[obrolan-bandar] Klinger Volume Oscillator

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Pengamat Market
Found something interesting

Klinger Volume Oscillator
The Klinger Oscillator (KO) was developed by Stephen J. Klinger.
Learning from prior research on volume by such well-known technicians
as Joseph Granville, Larry Williams, and Marc Chaikin, Mr. Klinger set
out to develop a volume-based indicator to help in both short- and
long-term analysis.
 
 The KO was developed with two
seemingly opposite goals in mind: to be sensitive enough to signal
short-term tops and bottoms, yet accurate enough to reflect the
long-term flow of money into and out of a security.
 
   The KO is based on the following tenets:  Price
range (i.e. High - Low) is a measure of movement and volume is the
force behind the movement. The sum of High + Low + Close defines a
trend. Accumulation occurs when today's sum is greater than the
previous day's. Conversely, distribution occurs when today's sum is
less than the previous day's. When the sums are equal, the existing
trend is maintained.Volume produces continuous intra-day
changes in price reflecting buying and selling pressure. The KO
quantifies the difference between the number of shares being
accumulated and distributed each day as volume force. A strong,
rising volume force should accompany an uptrend and then gradually
contract over time during the latter stages of the uptrend and the
early stages of the following downtrend. This should be followed by a
rising volume force reflecting some accumulation before a bottom
develops.By converting the volume force into an oscillator
representing the difference between a 34-period and 55-period
exponential moving average with a 13-period trigger, the force of
volume into and out of a security can easily be tracked. Comparing this
force to price action can help identify divergences at tops and bottoms.
 Interpretation
 
   Mr. Klinger recommends the following guidelines for using the KO:
  The
most reliable signals occur in the direction of the prevailing trend.
Strict stop guidelines (i.e., failure to penetrate the zero line or a
violation of the trigger line) should remain in force.The most
important signal occurs when the KO diverges with the underlying price
action, especially on new highs or new lows in overbought/oversold
territory. For example, when a stock makes a new high or low for a
cycle and the KO fails to confirm this, the trend may be losing
momentum and nearing completion.If the price is in an uptrend
(i.e., above an 89-day exponential moving average), buy when the KO
drops to unusually low levels below zero, turns up, and crosses its
trigger line. If the price is in a downtrend (i.e., below an 89-day
exponential moving average), sell when the KO rises to unusually high
levels above zero, turns down, and crosses its trigger line. While
the KO works well for timing trades in the direction of the trend, it
is less effective against the trend. This can create problems for the
trader trying to scalp a trade against the prevailing trend. However,
when the KO is used in conjunction with other technical indicators,
better results can be achieved. William's %R is recommended for
confirming an overbought/oversold price condition and Gerald Appel's
MACD is recommended for confirming the short-term direction of price.
 
   Tip
 
   Stephen Klinger suggests the following formula for viewing   
   the cumulative flow of money into and out of a security: 
   cum(kvo())  Plot a 13-period moving average of 
the formula as a trigger line  for entering buy and sell trades.
source codenya untuk trade stationType: Function, Name: VForce

Vars: TSum(0), Trend(0), DM(0), CM(0);

TSum = High + Low + Close;
IF TSum  TSum[1] Then

Trend = 1
Else
Trend = -1;
IF Trend = Trend[1] Then
CM = CM + Range
Else
CM = Range + Range[1];
IF CM  0 Then
VForce = Volume * AbsValue(2 * (DM/CM) -1) * Trend * 100;


Type: Function, Name: KVO

Inputs:
FastX(Numeric),
SlowX(Numeric); Vars:
FXAvg(0),
SXAvg(0);

FXAvg = XAverage(VForce, FastX);
SXAvg = XAverage(VForce, SlowX);
KVO = FXAvg - SXAvg;


Type: Indicator, Name: Klinger Volume Oscillator

Inputs:
FastX(34),
SlowX(55),
TrigLen(13),
Smooth(1);

Vars:
Trigger(0);Trigger = XAverage(KVO(FastX, SlowX), TrigLen);IF Smooth = 1 Then 
Begin
Plot1(KVO(FastX, SlowX), KVO);
Plot2(Trigger, KVO Trigger);
End Else BeginPlot1(Summation(KVO(FastX, SlowX), Smooth), KVO);
Plot2(Summation(Trigger, Smooth), KVO Trigger);
End;

Plot3(0, Zero);
IF Plot1 Crosses Above Plot2 OR Plot1 Crosses Below Plot2 OR
Plot2 Crosses Above Plot3 OR Plot2 Crosses Below Plot3 Then
Alert = True;


Ada yang bisa bantu Re coding lagi ke metastock, amibroker or metatrader?

this Post originally posted at:
www.trendtrader.co.cc



  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: NICKEL NEWS

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Barang murah sih HAJAR KANAN terus.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 cadangan jelas masih gede. kalaupun produksi turun, tentu gak bisa 
1-
 2 hari dihabisin. dulu butuh hanya 2-3 bulan utk bawa stock nickel 
 dr 5000 ke 30,000ton. sekarang sebaliknya bisa ga yah?? hehehe
 
 si embah lg hot di INCO nih. hihihi... dr td sudah hajar terus ya 
 mbah. skr balik ke 3700 lg (up 1.3%, pdhl nikel up 7%+)... embah 
 hajar lg nggak? saya mau ikutan kl embah hajar. hehehe
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kidod25 kidod25@ wrote:
 
  jgn2 selanjutnya INCO dan ANTM yg bangkrut ... cadangan di LME 
 masih 
  gede
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   Nickel producer KEEMPAT TERBESAR udah engga TUTUP ONGKOS, 
berarti
   produksi nickel akan berkurang banyak...
   
   INCO dengan MARGIN LABA KOTOR 52% as of Q2/2008 akan TETAP 
 JAYA...
   
   - LABA KOTOR = SALES - HARGA POKOK
   
   Pasti banyak yg bangkrut, dan harga nickel akan naik lagi...
   
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rita Pardede call008@ 
  wrote:
   
 
One of news from IndonesianCompany.com
 
 
Xstrata Suspends Nickel Operations After Price Plunge 
 (Update3) 
   (Bloomberg.com)
 Xstrata Plc , the world's fourth- largest nickel refiner, 
  suspended 
   its Falcondo operations in the Dominican Republic after costs 
  surged 
   and metal prices plunged. Nickel advanced as much as 3.6 
percent 
 in 
   London trading.
 
for more...visit Commodity News
 
 
Regards
Rita
   
  
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Shanghai

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jko``
 Analisa prajurit yg berani rugi 50%...
Shanghai mulai didukung govt, base metals dan coals mulai rebound, EUR mulai
balek menguat.
IHSG possibly double bottoms, hari ini sampai skrg jam 2an IHSG volume
kecil.
BUMI mulai pelan2 naek setelah kmrn dijadiin naek 25 poin 25 poin, apa
kurang berita bagus lagi?
Mungkin investor masih pada tidur pulas harus dibangunin dulu dgn sedikit
kejutan, lets see..



-- 
 An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken,
 nevertheless, an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100
 shurikens...


[obrolan-bandar] Re: It's time to entry ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dick Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 F nett buy more than 200M. 
 Agro dan Coal udah ada volume..banking juga jalan.
 It's time to entry the market ?
 cheers


Minyak naek aja, Bank bisa naek engga pake teori dah .
SERBU TERUS

Bakrie jual saham ke Danamon buat naekin IHSG, kata 
anak kecil...hehehe...

Liat tuh, group bakrie lagi berlayar  



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Hendi
embah  El minta info   pencerahan tambahan mengenai JSMR..

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:42 AM











yup
 
JSMR tidak cocok buat trading harian
tapi buat investor only, value investor
TP 12 months range 1,700-2,000, fair enough?
terutama yang kuat dengan volatilitas komodiy..boleh keep jsmr
 
 

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, yurry sugiharto [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

From: yurry sugiharto [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 1:23 PM






udah murah kok...jangan takut ama gosip,keep ajah saham bagus...gw punya di 
harga atas tp udah lama cut loss waktu masih 1500-1400 and sekarang lg mo 
ngumpulin di harga bawah...
kl gak bisa trading..keep ajah jsmr bagus,baca warren buffet buat inspirasi


On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:






Hah? Mau dibawa ke 900? Ada berita apa emangnya bos?

Bukannya dulu targetnya mau dibawa balik ke harga IPO?

Soalnya punya banyak nih JSMR di harga atas...

Mbah bisa kasih petunjuk?

Bukannya harga skrg udh murah bgt yah?

Thanks,

ID 
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From: Hadiah 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:42:13 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan JSMR




JSMR mau dibawa ke 900..


2008/8/20 hendi_lie [EMAIL PROTECTED] com






Pls help info ada apa dengan JSMR tiap hari koq tambah merosot ??






 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Rully, Gw koq jadi gak bisa masuk room OB?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik abdulrahim abdulrahim
Tetep keblok euy pak Rully.
Ya uwis lah
Trims

2008/8/19 Rully [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Pak AA,

 IP Public memang kadang beginilah masalahnya.

 Coba ganti servernya. kalau gagal lewat hotspeed, coba pake mesra, toronto,
 atau yang lain, seperti di daftar yang pernah saya kirim di milis ini.

 Salam,
 Rully


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 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:21 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Rully, Gw koq jadi gak bisa masuk room OB?

 Dikira gw pake proxy, itu alamat gw beneran. Tulunk yak


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: It's time to entry ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Dick Q
Siap Mbah...serbu UNSP masih murah banget..
cheers.

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From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: It's time to entry ?


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dick Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 F nett buy more than 200M. 
 Agro dan Coal udah ada volume..banking juga jalan.
 It's time to entry the market ?
 cheers

 
 Minyak naek aja, Bank bisa naek engga pake teori dah .
 SERBU TERUS
 
 Bakrie jual saham ke Danamon buat naekin IHSG, kata 
 anak kecil...hehehe...
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: It's time to entry ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Petualang Saham
Hari ini cukup dulu Mbah, dah sampae keselek2 nih?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dick Q passion8899@ wrote:
 
  F nett buy more than 200M. 
  Agro dan Coal udah ada volume..banking juga jalan.
  It's time to entry the market ?
  cheers
 
 
 Minyak naek aja, Bank bisa naek engga pake teori dah .
 SERBU TERUS
 
 Bakrie jual saham ke Danamon buat naekin IHSG, kata 
 anak kecil...hehehe...
 
 Liat tuh, group bakrie lagi berlayar





[obrolan-bandar] BUMI

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik abdulrahim abdulrahim
Wew Bumi udah 5200
Nyampe 5700 lagi gak ya :D


[obrolan-bandar] MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
MANTAP katanya...

Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.

Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
bid-offer para RETAILER

Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...

Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...

Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut
ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..

Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200...










Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Waduh gw lagi di jalan nih.., ngga monitor... Seru sekali kedengerannya..

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Sent: Aug 20, 2008 14:32
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI

Wew Bumi udah 5200
Nyampe 5700 lagi gak ya :D



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Waduh gw lagi di jalan nih.., ngga monitor... Seru sekali 
kedengerannya..
 

Hari ini embah bagi bagi PANADOL gratis ama pasukan Bearish, 
supaya lupa ama Bearishnya...hehehe



RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sanggupkah anda melihat saham anda turun 50%

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Pahala Baringbing
BC apa saja yang super murah itu?

mohon di-share..

paling tidak TOP 5 andalan pak tbumi.

 

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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sanggupkah anda melihat saham anda turun 50%

 


Sip : tbumi

 

BC sdh super murah tapi sayang sekali sudah banyak pemain yg bangkrut saat
ini.

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik hst auto
hajar bumi. biar dapet lagi :P

2008/8/20 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Waduh gw lagi di jalan nih.., ngga monitor... Seru sekali
 kedengerannya..
 

 Hari ini embah bagi bagi PANADOL gratis ama pasukan Bearish,
 supaya lupa ama Bearishnya...hehehe

  



Re: [obrolan-bandar] MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik hst auto
mbah,
kapan saatnya ANTM bisa kayak BUMI lagi?
mungkin bisa kasih info, tips n tricknya.

om oent pls share ceritanya. :P


2008/8/20 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
 MANTAP katanya...

 Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.

 Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
 pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
 bid-offer para RETAILER

 Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
 jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...

 Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
 dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...

 Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
 jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut
 ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..

 Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200...

  



[obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik conx_2003
brarti kesimpulannya 

hari ini market maker menyingkir dari bursa, takut keseruduk banteng
alias barangnya yg murah ilang gitu?

brarti kenaikan ihsg dengan vol kecil mantep donk?

tapi klo MM ikut nyeruduk juga, brarti volnya besar?

maklum mbah kurang begitu memahami

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
 MANTAP katanya...
 
 Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.
 
 Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
 pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
 bid-offer para RETAILER
 
 Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
 jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...
 
 Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
 dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...
 
 Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
 jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut
 ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..
 
 Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200...





[obrolan-bandar] HATI HATI DGN CPO potensi koreksi

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase


   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Lapor Mbah, pasukan berani rugi yg kemarin masuk siap exit dulu, biar 
pasukan lain gantian.., saya antri nunggu jemputan di 5275.. 

--Original Message--
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Sender: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
ReplyTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2008 14:32
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
MANTAP katanya...

Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.

Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
bid-offer para RETAILER

Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...

Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...

Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut 
ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..

Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200... 






 




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Mo_Cuan
Jadi maksudnya yang bikin nih pasar ijo para retail trader banteng yah mbah?
trus trader beruang yang kemaren pada cutloss ikut-2an trader banteng juga gak 
mbah
ato MM sebenernya ikut-2an tapi ikut-2an dorong-2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] banteng 
doank
hehehe

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]











Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar

MANTAP katanya...



Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.



Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka

pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa

bid-offer para RETAILER



Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,

jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...



Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat

dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...



Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat

jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut 

ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..



Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200... 




  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] STOCKS NEWS EUROPE-Shares rebound as energy, miners rise

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Anggur Red
- STOCKS NEWS Reuters Results diary Stocks on the move [HOT-RTRS] Real-time 
Equity News [E] [WEU/EQUITY] 07:20GMT 20Aug2008-European shares rebound as 
energy, miners rise 
- European 
shares rise in early trade, recouping some of the losses from the previous 
session as commodity-related stocks bounce back along with oil and metal 
prices. At 0714 GMT, the FTSEurofirst 300 .FTEU3 index of top European shares 
is up 0.5 percent at 1,165.30 points. Rio Tinto RIO.L adds 3.4 percent, 
Xstrata XTA.L gains 3.7 percent and BP BP.L rises 1.4 percent. Tech shares 
get a boost from Hewlett-Packard's HPQ.N results that beat estimates 
overnight as well as from a deal announced by STMicroelectronics STM.PA and 
Ericsson ERICb.ST to combine their chip and mobile applications businesses. 
STMicro gains 2.2 percent, Ericsson rises 1.1 percent, while Infineon 
IFXGn.DE adds 1.5 percent and
 Alcatel-Lucent ALUA.PA gains 1 percent. Reuters Messaging rm://[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 07:21GMT 20Aug2008-Ferrovial gains ground after BAA ruling 
-- Shares in Ferrovial 
rise 2.82 percent to 34.0 euros after the UK Competition Commission said its 
BAA unit may have to sell two of its three London airports. In principal this 
is bad news for Ferrovial... the only positive reading that can be given is 
that Ferrovial could take advantage of the asset sale to further reduce debt 
and operate BAA with fewer obstacles, a trader said. For more double click on 
[ID:nLK68001] Reuters Messaging rm://[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07:05GMT 
20Aug2008-Wirecard shares surge after improved outlook 
--- Shares in 
WireCard WDIG.DE surge 9.2 percent to 7.46 euros, topping gainers in 
Germany's technology index .TECDAX, as the
 payment systems provider raises its full-year guidance after reporting final 
second-quarter results. We did not reckon with an increase of the guidance, 
says Thorsten Reigber, analyst at DZ Bank in a note to clients. So a positive 
surprise here. The analyst confirms his strong buy rating for the share and 
says that WireCard's valuation is still moderate compared to its peers. For 
more double click on [ID:nEQlwjbdox] Reuters Messaging rm://[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
06:54GMT 20Aug2008-Telekom Austria seen opening lower as Q2 disappoints 
--- Shares 
in Telekom Austria TELA.VI are expected to open lower after the company's 
second quarter earnings miss estimates as a further decline of its domestic 
business is masked by its emerging markets business and one-off factors weigh 
down earnings, analysts say. The numbers were light of expectations but better 
Int'l mobile masks a
 huge deterioration in domestic mobile, Deutsche Bank analyst David Wright 
says in a note to clients. Earnings visibility is still lacking. This counters 
(Telekom Austria's) attractive valuation. The market is pretty trigger-happy 
at the moment if there's missed numbers, says one analyst who declined to be 
identified. But i don't see this as a big shock like we saw before, because it 
is largely seasonal and exceptional factors and I think the guidance is still 
achievable. For a story on the results, double click on [ID:nLK25989] Reuters 
Messaging rm://[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06:03GMT 20Aug2008-Futures point to higher 
open in Europe -- 
European stocks are set to open higher after big falls in the previous session, 
steadied by gains in Asian markets and with energy stocks set to benefit from a 
renewed rise in crude prices. At 0604 GMT, futures for the DJ Euro Stoxx 
STXEc1, for
 Germany's DAX FDXc1 and for France's CAC FCEc1 were up between 0.2 percent 
and 0.4 percent. With the corporate and macro diaries both fairly thin, 
investors will focus on minutes of the Bank of England's latest rate setting 
meeting, due at 0830 GMT. Tech stocks could gain after Hewlett-Packard Co 
HPQ.N posted results that beat Wall Street targets. COMPANY UPDATES: Telekom 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Sanggupkah anda melihat saham anda turun 50%

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik ksatria_timur_laut

Saya rasa tidak juga Bung Hendrik ... Saya megang AALI di harga Rp
25.000 dan samapi saat ini tidak cutloss ... liat AALI 16.300 jg tetap
senang aja ... Kalo ada dana dingin akan saya akumulasi lagi saham2 yg
berfundamental kuat ... 

Selain AALI misal SMGR, TRUB, WIKA dsb nya...
Justru tahun 2008 ini tahun yg bagus utk mengakumulasi ... 
Tergantung Time Frame masing-masing juga sech ...

Keputusan di tangan masing-masing  tidak perlu menyalahkan orang
lain ... 
jadi tidak ada yang perlu DIKASIHANI, Portfolio merah atau hijau
adalah hasil keputusan masing-masing ...

Regards,

Ksatria Timur Laut


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic victor_sperandeo@ 
  wrote:
  
   pertanyaan yg juga penting: sanggupkah anda cut loss 50% portfolio
   supaya bandar lebih enteng narik ihsg? mana yg lebih baik, keep 
 all
   portfolio tapi harga gak naik2 atau cut loss sebagian tapi 
 nantinya
   naik 2x lipat?
   
   btw, bhp.ax open +2,86%.
   
  
  Trader adalah LAWAN nya BD, sedangkan Investor MERUPAKAN TEMAN BD.
  
  Jika trader Cutloss (terjadi banyak sekali kemarin) BD sangat
  senang. Kasian yg cutloss di cpo dan mining kemarin
  
  Dan jika Investor menaikan portfolionya, BD akan TAMBAH SENANG,
  karena investor engga mungkin profit taking dengan target price
  naik cuman 10%.
 
 
 lebih kasian yang ngga CL Komodity saat masih +30% dari harga saat 
 ini padahal pak Jos udah koar2.he3...
 
 yang CL kmarin... jangan nyesal... Masih bisa turun kayaknya..





[obrolan-bandar] Asia stocks rebound on hopes for China boost

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Anggur Red


Asia stocks rebound on hopes for China boost
updated 2:38 a.m. ET Aug. 20, 2008 
By Kevin Plumberg
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Most Asian stock markets edged higher on Wednesday, 
rebounding from a two-year low as Chinese shares surged on hopes for policies 
from Beijing to jumpstart growth, though many analysts said it was a long shot.
The dollar struggled as crude oil crept above $115 a barrel and gold prices 
edged higher, taking some of the steam out of the U.S. currency's recent surge 
to a seven-month high.
World stock markets slid to the lowest since September 2006 on Tuesday, with 
investors increasingly skeptical about earnings expectations for 2009 given the 
mixed results so far in 2008 and constant reminders about instability in the 
financial sector.
However, most Asian indexes turned higher as cheap valuations proved 
irresistible, especially with markets rife with chatter about fiscal stimulus 
in China.
Bargain hunters have returned to the market on talks that a rescue package is 
on the way, said Francis Lun, general manager from Fulbright Securities in 
Hong Kong. We are all waiting for a miracle, Lun added.
Hong Kong's Hang Seng index .HSI rose 1.9 percent, after closing at a 
one-year low on Tuesday, with shares of China Mobile 0941.HK providing the 
biggest boost.
Shares of Asia's largest wireless carrier, up 2 percent, hit a one-year low 
before the rally swept through the region.
The Shanghai composite index .SSEC surged 6 percent after touching a 20-month 
low. The index is watched by many global investors as a gauge of risk taking 
and a leading indicator for the world's fastest growing economy.
The MSCI pan-Asia equities index .MIAS0PUS edged up 0.3 percent after 
earlier plumbing the lowest since July 2006.
The MSCI all-countries world index .MIWD0PUS on Tuesday tumbled to a 
23-month low, down 18 percent year-to-date.
Japan's Nikkei share average .N225 rose 0.2 percent, tagging along for the 
rally, with retail companies like clothing chain operator Fast Retailing Co Ltd 
9983.T paving the way higher. 
TOO EARLY FOR FISCAL STIMULUS IN CHINA?
Despite the sudden turnaround in Asian stocks, apprehension about the earnings 
outlook was rife, especially after the Bank of Japan on Tuesday described the 
world's second-largest economy as sluggish -- a term it has not used since 
the Asian financial crisis a decade ago.
Donald Straszheim, vice chairman of Roth Capital Partners in Los Angeles and a 
long-time China analyst, said the Chinese stock market, the worst performer 
this year, will continue to fall because of the toxic concoction of slowing 
growth and high inflation.
He expects earnings to rise 15 percent in China this year, down quite sharply 
from 30 percent to 45 percent pace enjoyed by most sectors in 2006 and 2007.
Shanghai has proven to be a very emotional market, and is likely to stay that 
way, said Straszheim in a note to clients.
Stephen Green, head of China research with Standard Chartered Bank in Beijing, 
said that given economic growth is still expected to stay above 8 percent this 
year and next, it is too early for the government to squeeze its budget to 
boost growth.
Rather, Beijing should consider relaxing loan quotas to stimulate bank lending 
to support growth.
It is too early for a fiscal stimulus package, and we should be responsible 
about calling for one, he said in a research note. There is still room for 
monetary policy before we try fiscal policy.
Central bank officials have been struggling to balance concerns about rapidly 
slowing growth rates around the world with persistent inflation.
Two Federal Reserve officials known for their tough stances against price 
pressures stressed overnight the central bank has to be prepared to raise 
interest rates to keep inflation at bay if slowing growth does not do the trick.
Until we have a clear sense of what will prevail, monetary policy-makers must 
remain poised to act if slowing growth fails to contain inflationary 
pressures, said Richard Fisher, president of the Dallas Fed.
Higher borrowing costs might be the last thing that corporate management wants 
at a time when consumer demand is drying up.
After weeks of liquidation of positions in the metals markets, which have 
helped to push up the U.S. dollar, investors slowed down to survey the scene.
The euro was largely unchanged at $1.4773, but was up from a six-month low 
around $1.4630 hit on Tuesday.
The dollar rose 0.2 percent to 109.85 yen, though it was struggling to test a 
seven-month high of 110.67 yen reached last week.
Metals markets were relatively quiet compared with the last few days. Gold rose 
0.3 percent in the spot market to $815.95 an ounce, spending only a few days 
trading below $800.
The September U.S. light crude contract rose 37 cents to $114.90 a barrel, 
gravitating around the $115 mark.
Oil is still up 20 percent so far this year but its sharp decline in the last 
month on expectations for slowing demand has stung a 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: NICKEL NEWS

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik hidayat . ardiansyah
On 8/20/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Barang murah sih HAJAR KANAN terus.


Ikut hajar INCO mbahdah gatel pegang cash nich =) sebagian dulu...
sebagian dah nancep di BUMI

tunggu aksi Boss nurunin lagi biar bisa Avg lebih murah =)


-HA-



   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  cadangan jelas masih gede. kalaupun produksi turun, tentu gak bisa
 1-
  2 hari dihabisin. dulu butuh hanya 2-3 bulan utk bawa stock nickel
  dr 5000 ke 30,000ton. sekarang sebaliknya bisa ga yah?? hehehe
 
  si embah lg hot di INCO nih. hihihi... dr td sudah hajar terus ya
  mbah. skr balik ke 3700 lg (up 1.3%, pdhl nikel up 7%+)... embah
  hajar lg nggak? saya mau ikutan kl embah hajar. hehehe
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Kidod25 kidod25@ wrote:
  
   jgn2 selanjutnya INCO dan ANTM yg bangkrut ... cadangan di LME
  masih
   gede
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-
   consultant@ wrote:
   
Nickel producer KEEMPAT TERBESAR udah engga TUTUP ONGKOS,
 berarti
produksi nickel akan berkurang banyak...
   
INCO dengan MARGIN LABA KOTOR 52% as of Q2/2008 akan TETAP
  JAYA...
   
- LABA KOTOR = SALES - HARGA POKOK
   
Pasti banyak yg bangkrut, dan harga nickel akan naik lagi...
   
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Rita Pardede call008@
   wrote:


 One of news from IndonesianCompany.com


 Xstrata Suspends Nickel Operations After Price Plunge
  (Update3)
(Bloomberg.com)
  Xstrata Plc , the world's fourth- largest nickel refiner,
   suspended
its Falcondo operations in the Dominican Republic after costs
   surged
and metal prices plunged. Nickel advanced as much as 3.6
 percent
  in
London trading.

 for more...visit Commodity News


 Regards
 Rita

   
  
 

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik didi hernandi
Mbah..

apa artinya MM ga masuk krn ngebiarin retailer ngedorong harga ke atas... abis 
itu MM masup lagi trus dia nginjek2 kita lagi ga Mbah?

Mhn diterawang dari kukunya Mbah... gimana seharusnya kita.. Kalo tehnikal atau 
fundamental ga reasonable... dari itungan primbon atau wetonnya Mbah jg gpp 
deh.. Hee...   

Piisss..



- Original Message 
From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:53:05 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?


brarti kesimpulannya 

hari ini market maker menyingkir dari bursa, takut keseruduk banteng
alias barangnya yg murah ilang gitu?

brarti kenaikan ihsg dengan vol kecil mantep donk?

tapi klo MM ikut nyeruduk juga, brarti volnya besar?

maklum mbah kurang begitu memahami

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant
jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:

 Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
 MANTAP katanya...
 
 Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.
 
 Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
 pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
 bid-offer para RETAILER
 
 Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
 jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...
 
 Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
 dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...
 
 Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
 jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut
 ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..
 
 Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200...





  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik didi hernandi
Mbah..

apa artinya MM ga masuk krn ngebiarin retailer ngedorong harga ke atas... abis 
itu MM masup lagi trus dia nginjek2 kita lagi ga Mbah?

Mhn diterawang dari kukunya Mbah... gimana seharusnya kita.. Kalo tehnikal atau 
fundamental ga reasonable... dari itungan primbon atau wetonnya Mbah jg gpp 
deh.. Hee...   

Piisss..



- Original Message 
From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:53:05 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?


brarti kesimpulannya 

hari ini market maker menyingkir dari bursa, takut keseruduk banteng
alias barangnya yg murah ilang gitu?

brarti kenaikan ihsg dengan vol kecil mantep donk?

tapi klo MM ikut nyeruduk juga, brarti volnya besar?

maklum mbah kurang begitu memahami

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant
jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:

 Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
 MANTAP katanya...
 
 Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.
 
 Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
 pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
 bid-offer para RETAILER
 
 Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
 jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...
 
 Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
 dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...
 
 Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
 jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut
 ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..
 
 Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200...





  

[obrolan-bandar] Putaran BUMI semakin Kencang

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Yanuar Mustofa
Warga OB udah mulai panik n bingung neh mbah...
ada yg bilang buy..ada yg bilang hold malah udah sebagian udah pada sell di 
5100.

klo liat peperangan sesi 2 keliatan kocar kacir warga OB, bisa keliatan yg 
biasa nyopet, yg penakut ama yg pemberani.

lebih baik renungkan dalam hati n baca news sebanyak mungkin buat masuk 
portofolionya.

Happy Cuan


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, didi hernandi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mbah..
 
 apa artinya MM ga masuk krn ngebiarin retailer ngedorong harga ke 
atas... abis itu MM masup lagi trus dia nginjek2 kita lagi ga Mbah?
 
 Mhn diterawang dari kukunya Mbah... gimana seharusnya kita.. Kalo 
tehnikal atau fundamental ga reasonable... dari itungan primbon atau 
wetonnya Mbah jg gpp deh.. Hee...   
 
 Piisss.

MM itu fungsinya menjaga LIKWIDITAS, maksudnya:
- Anda mau jual dia akan beli, 
- Anda mau beli dia jual..

Kalo ada banteng NYERUDUK, engga mungkin MM mau jualan, 
jadi nyingkir dulu... nANTI kalo banteng udah puas makannya,
dia akan muncul lagi melayani RETAIL lagi...







 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:53:05 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume 
KECIL ?
 
 
 brarti kesimpulannya 
 
 hari ini market maker menyingkir dari bursa, takut keseruduk banteng
 alias barangnya yg murah ilang gitu?
 
 brarti kenaikan ihsg dengan vol kecil mantep donk?
 
 tapi klo MM ikut nyeruduk juga, brarti volnya besar?
 
 maklum mbah kurang begitu memahami
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant
 jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:
 
  Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
  MANTAP katanya...
  
  Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.
  
  Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
  pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
  bid-offer para RETAILER
  
  Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
  jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...
  
  Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
  dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...
  
  Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
  jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut
  ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..
  
  Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200...
 





[obrolan-bandar] China's key stock index jumps 7.6 percentse

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Anggur Red
China's key stock index jumps 7.6 percent
updated 3:51 a.m. ET Aug. 20, 2008 
SHANGHAI, China - Chinese stocks have posted their biggest gain in nearly four 
months on speculation Beijing plans new economic stimulus measures and other 
policies aimed at reviving the country's languishing markets.
The benchmark Shanghai Composite Index jumped 7.6 percent Wednesday to 
2,523.28. It is the biggest one-day advance for the index since it rose 9.3 
percent on April 24 after the government cut the tax on share transactions.
The Shenzhen Composite Index shot up 7.2 percent to 712.82.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's 
earlier story is below.
SHANGHAI, China (AP) — Chinese stocks surged early Wednesday on speculation 
Beijing plans new economic stimulus measures and other policies aimed at 
reviving the country's languishing markets.
The benchmark Shanghai Composite Index had gained 6 percent to 2,482.64 by 
midday. The Shenzhen Composite Index also jumped 6 percent to 705.
Share prices rose across the board, with major brokerage CITIC Securities 
hitting the upside 10 percent limit at 18.70 yuan and Poly Real Estate also 
gaining 10 percent, to 15.07 yuan.
The rally came after investment bank JPMorgan issued a report saying China's 
leaders are considering a stimulus plan of up to 400 billion yuan (US$58.4 
billion), including tax cuts and measures to stabilize the financial markets 
and boost the housing industry.
Investors used the news as an excuse to hunt bargains after recent losses that 
had taken the markets to 20-month lows.
The market has been pacing up and down at low levels for a long time. 
Investors have all been waiting for a chance, said An Yun, a strategist at 
Shenyin Wanguo Securities in Shanghai.
Among other measures planned, the report said, the government would raise 
prices for electricity and fuel shortly after the Olympics, which end Sunday in 
Beijing.
Seemingly corroborating that claim, the government announced late Tuesday that 
it was raising electricity tariffs for the second time in two months, with 
wholesale power prices rising about 5 percent, on top of a 4.7 percent increase 
in July.
The move is meant to help utilities offset high coal costs, which had squeezed 
electricity generators in recent months and spawned power outages and rationing.
Coal stocks have run dangerously low at many power plants recently because 
utilities have balked at paying current high market prices.
Power generators advanced, with Huaneng Power International up 3.8 percent to 
7.72 yuan and Shenhua Energy adding 6.2 percent to 28.10.
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not 
be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


  

[obrolan-bandar] Investor Only : Ekonomi US

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik kangduren
data terakhir yg keluar yg cukup menghebohkan ialah data inflasi dan
data keuangan.
Tapi kalau diperhatikan lebih mendalam mengenai inflasi tentunya bukan
kekhawatiran yg didapat tetapi tanda2 positif, krn dg harga2 komoditas
sekarang maka inflasi di US utk ke depannya akan rendah. Dg angka GDP,
indeks manufaktur dan daya beli konsumen yg moderate (tidak terlalu
ekspansif, dan tidak menurun lagi) maka diprediksi 3-6 bulan ke depan
kondisi ekonomi US akan stabil dan mulai menanjak, krn banyak industri
yg menahan produksinya kemarin akan mulai berproduksi.
Hal-hal tersebut di atas juga mendorong negara2 spt Indonesia semakin
membaik perekonomiannya (kisah ttg Emerging Market lain waktu).
secara singkat data2 ekonomi US akan mulai membaik, utk sektor
keuangan krn buruknya birokrasi mudah2an bisa di atasi.
Selamat berinvestasi

salam



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Putaran BUMI semakin Kencang

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Turun senang, Naik sakit kepala

Yang bingung dan sakit kepala dikasih Bodrex and Brother aja (BNBR)
... hehehe...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Yanuar Mustofa 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Warga OB udah mulai panik n bingung neh mbah...
 ada yg bilang buy..ada yg bilang hold malah udah sebagian udah pada 
sell di 5100.
 
 klo liat peperangan sesi 2 keliatan kocar kacir warga OB, bisa 
keliatan yg biasa nyopet, yg penakut ama yg pemberani.
 
 lebih baik renungkan dalam hati n baca news sebanyak mungkin buat 
masuk portofolionya.
 
 Happy Cuan
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Margareth Renata
Atau MMnya ga berani masuk karna masih takut kegencet pantat beruang? ^_^

Salam,
Retha

On 8/20/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, didi hernandi
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mbah..

 apa artinya MM ga masuk krn ngebiarin retailer ngedorong harga ke
 atas... abis itu MM masup lagi trus dia nginjek2 kita lagi ga Mbah?

 Mhn diterawang dari kukunya Mbah... gimana seharusnya kita.. Kalo
 tehnikal atau fundamental ga reasonable... dari itungan primbon atau
 wetonnya Mbah jg gpp deh.. Hee...

 Piisss.

 MM itu fungsinya menjaga LIKWIDITAS, maksudnya:
 - Anda mau jual dia akan beli,
 - Anda mau beli dia jual..

 Kalo ada banteng NYERUDUK, engga mungkin MM mau jualan,
 jadi nyingkir dulu... nANTI kalo banteng udah puas makannya,
 dia akan muncul lagi melayani RETAIL lagi...










 - Original Message 
 From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:53:05 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume
 KECIL ?


 brarti kesimpulannya

 hari ini market maker menyingkir dari bursa, takut keseruduk banteng
 alias barangnya yg murah ilang gitu?

 brarti kenaikan ihsg dengan vol kecil mantep donk?

 tapi klo MM ikut nyeruduk juga, brarti volnya besar?

 maklum mbah kurang begitu memahami

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant
 jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:
 
  Kalo Mr jsxtrader maunya IHSG naek dengan volume kecil biar
  MANTAP katanya...
 
  Tapi kalo embah bilang engga selalu, KENAPA ?.
 
  Kalo ada YG GEDE mau borong saham, Market Maker yg suka
  pada BID-OFFER ribuan lot LANGSUNG NYINGKIR dan yang tersisa
  bid-offer para RETAILER
 
  Market maker itu sangat 'integrated' dengan anggota bursa,
  jadi HIDUNGnya MM sangat PEKA terhadap BANTENG yg suka NYERUDUK...
 
  Otomatis kalo MM nyingkir, maka RUNNING TRADE terkesan lambat
  dan Volume Perdagangan tidak tinggi...
 
  Saat ini IHSG udaj naik +25, running trade masih lambat
  jadi artinya: MARKET MAKER saat ini aja menyingkir takut
  ditabrak dan BARANGNYA HILANG dilahap ama BANTENG..
 
  Uluh uluh... BUMI udah 5200...
 





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Putaran BUMI semakin Kencang

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Yanuar Mustofa
hahahahhaha...
mbah bs aja..mentang2 punya bnbr di 285 ama 300...

kirain BYAN n Brothers. yg punya BYAN siap2 dikerokin ntar malem krn sahamnya 
masuk angin banyak hari ini.

Btw..Oil bs 125dollar lg gak mbah???...mbah udah punya prediksi khan 
yaa...share donkk..

Thnks before





- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 3:23:55
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Putaran BUMI semakin Kencang


Turun senang, Naik sakit kepala

Yang bingung dan sakit kepala dikasih Bodrex and Brother aja (BNBR)
... hehehe...


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
5275 Sell Done..., ngaso dulu ahh..., Thanks GOD !
Yg mau lanjut, silahkan..., GoodLuck
 Salam,
JsxTrader



- Original Message 
From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54:49
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

hahahaha itu kalau si sultan datang mbah menghilang

karena sultan pro bumi, jadi embah ga usa balancing lagi hehehehe

kemaren sultan menghilang ampir 1 minggu hahaha makanya embah aktif



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kalau masuknya kemarin pas harga nyentuh support ya ngga salah-salah
amat.
 hehe., ngga  apa-apa udah cuan toh?
 
 Eh.., btw jgn panggil Mbah, itu boss besar.., itu panggilan JSX
 KONconyaSULTAN.. hehe. 
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Lala Tobing
 Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 10:33
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
  
 
 
 maksudnya yang exit di 5100 adalah sebuah kesalahan mbah ? 
 
 gimana ? bingung nih 
 
 
 
 --- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 3:31 AM
 
 BD tampaknya mengiring trader utk exit di 5100., tampaknya cukup
berhasil.. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 9:33
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
  
 
 ENJOY YOUR MEAL . !!
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 16:28
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
  
 
 Moga-moga besok 4850 ngga Jebol., kalau tembus dgn heavy vol dan CLOSE
 dibawah itu.., jangan ragu-ragu untuk kabrrr.. GoodLuck.
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 12:12
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; analisasaham@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
  
 
 Touch support level 4850 WITHOUT volume, probability tembus kecil
tapi bukan
 tidak mungkin...
 
  
 
 trading strategy; buy at support level.., CUT jika support level tembus
 dengan HEAVY vol.  Resiko ditanggung penumpang.., GoodLuck !!
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: MISTERI: IHSG naik dengan volume KECIL ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Margareth Renata 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Atau MMnya ga berani masuk karna masih takut kegencet pantat beruang? 
^_^
 

Pada saat bearish biasanya MM akan main, jaga likwiditas dan
bisa dapet untung, jual di offer beli di bid...

Tapi kalo diseruduk di groups Bakrie seperti saat ini, bisa
rugi...



[obrolan-bandar] BYAN

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Naughty BoY
BYAN ???



  

[obrolan-bandar] Special Double Match : 2008.2008

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Anggur Red
Today is special double match : 20082008, it happens only once in a lifetime! 
So I wish you a very wonderful day! hope you all good luck, healthy n wealthy..
Have a nice trading day..


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Andreas Butar Butar
Mbah kayaknya kita mesti balik lagi nie
Main CPO dan COAL
Begitu berita INFORMASI JALANAN,,,


NewBie


AB


--- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:43 AM












5275 Sell Done..., ngaso dulu ahh..., Thanks GOD !
 
Yg mau lanjut, silahkan..., GoodLuck
 Salam,
JsxTrader




- Original Message 
From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54:49
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

hahahaha itu kalau si sultan datang mbah menghilang

karena sultan pro bumi, jadi embah ga usa balancing lagi hehehehe

kemaren sultan menghilang ampir 1 minggu hahaha makanya embah aktif



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
wrote:

 Kalau masuknya kemarin pas harga nyentuh support ya ngga salah-salah
amat.
 hehe., ngga  apa-apa udah cuan toh?
 
 Eh.., btw jgn panggil Mbah, itu boss besar.., itu panggilan JSX
 KONconyaSULTAN. . hehe. 

 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
 On Behalf Of Lala Tobing
 Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 10:33
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
  
 
 
 maksudnya yang exit di 5100 adalah sebuah kesalahan mbah ? 
 
 gimana ? bingung nih 
 
 
 
 --- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
 
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 3:31 AM
 
 BD tampaknya mengiring trader utk exit di 5100., tampaknya cukup
berhasil.. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 9:33
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
  
 
 ENJOY YOUR MEAL . !!
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 16:28
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
 com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
  
 
 Moga-moga besok 4850 ngga Jebol., kalau tembus dgn heavy vol dan CLOSE
 dibawah itu.., jangan ragu-ragu untuk kabrrr.. GoodLuck.
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 12:12
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 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
  
 
 Touch support level 4850 WITHOUT volume, probability tembus kecil
tapi bukan
 tidak mungkin...
 
  

 
 trading strategy; buy at support level.., CUT jika support level tembus
 dengan HEAVY vol.  Resiko ditanggung penumpang.., GoodLuck !!
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Maddy Vain
COAL and CPO still the best!
Banyak rumor seru di sektor ini... sektor yang bikin bozz ngiler, masih ada yg 
bilang komoditas sudah berakhir? Kita tunggu sampai awal 2009 deh myBUMI 
pasti sudah 10rebu.


--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Andreas Butar Butar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Andreas Butar Butar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
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Mbah kayaknya kita mesti balik lagi nie
Main CPO dan COAL
Begitu berita INFORMASI JALANAN,,,


NewBie


AB


--- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:43 AM







5275 Sell Done..., ngaso dulu ahh..., Thanks GOD !
 
Yg mau lanjut, silahkan..., GoodLuck
 Salam,
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From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54:49
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

hahahaha itu kalau si sultan datang mbah menghilang

karena sultan pro bumi, jadi embah ga usa balancing lagi hehehehe

kemaren sultan menghilang ampir 1 minggu hahaha makanya embah aktif



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
wrote:

 Kalau masuknya kemarin pas harga nyentuh support ya ngga salah-salah
amat.
 hehe., ngga  apa-apa udah cuan toh?
 
 Eh.., btw jgn panggil Mbah, itu boss besar.., itu panggilan JSX
 KONconyaSULTAN. . hehe. 
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
 On Behalf Of Lala Tobing
 Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 10:33
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
  
 
 
 maksudnya yang exit di 5100 adalah sebuah kesalahan mbah ? 
 
 gimana ? bingung nih 
 
 
 
 --- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
 
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 3:31 AM
 
 BD tampaknya mengiring trader utk exit di 5100., tampaknya cukup
berhasil.. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 9:33
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
  
 
 ENJOY YOUR MEAL . !!
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 16:28
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
  
 
 Moga-moga besok 4850 ngga Jebol., kalau tembus dgn heavy vol dan CLOSE
 dibawah itu.., jangan ragu-ragu untuk kabrrr.. GoodLuck.
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 12:12
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; analisasaham@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
  
 
 Touch support level 4850 WITHOUT volume, probability tembus kecil
tapi bukan
 tidak mungkin...
 
  
 
 trading strategy; buy at support level.., CUT jika support level tembus
 dengan HEAVY vol.  Resiko ditanggung penumpang.., GoodLuck !!
 
  
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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[obrolan-bandar] 20 - 08 - 2008

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik chery thalia


  


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik kangduren
komoditas kemarin2 itu cuma koreksi, komoditas itu tetap diperlukan.
pada waktunya akan rebound kembali, FM tetap mengumpulkan, selama
market fluktuatif utk apa harga cepat2 ditarik ke atas, apalagi jika
US kembali pulih, dan negara2 emerging market (non SDA) ikut
terangkat, demand akan komoditas akan kembali tinggi.
note : Saat sekarang China defisit energi.
salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Butar Butar
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 Mbah kayaknya kita mesti balik lagi nie
 Main CPO dan COAL
 Begitu berita INFORMASI JALANAN,,,
 
 
 NewBie
 
 
 AB




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI PANADOL

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik giek Doang
PANADOL  BODREX 15 ribu ditelan 4 menit sebelum tutup
tanda2 alam?

--- Pada Rab, 20/8/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

Dari: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 20 Agustus, 2008, 7:41 AM






--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 
wrote:

 Waduh gw lagi di jalan nih.., ngga monitor... Seru sekali 
kedengerannya. .
 

Hari ini embah bagi bagi PANADOL gratis ama pasukan Bearish, 
supaya lupa ama Bearishnya.. .hehehe.. ..

 














  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI PANADOL

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik M Herman
Ambil sekarang deh BUMI...sampe pembagian THR akan tetap naik trendnya 

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, giek Doang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: giek Doang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI  PANADOL
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Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:12 AM











PANADOL  BODREX 15 ribu ditelan 4 menit sebelum tutup
tanda2 alam ?

--- Pada Rab, 20/8/08, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id menulis:

Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 20 Agustus, 2008, 7:41 AM




--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 
wrote:

 Waduh gw lagi di jalan nih.., ngga monitor... Seru sekali 
kedengerannya. .
 

Hari ini embah bagi bagi PANADOL gratis ama pasukan Bearish, 
supaya lupa ama Bearishnya.. .hehehe.. ..




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI PANADOL

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik M Herman
Ambil sekarang deh BUMI...sampe pembagian THR akan tetap naik trendnya 

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, giek Doang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: giek Doang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI  PANADOL
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:12 AM











PANADOL  BODREX 15 ribu ditelan 4 menit sebelum tutup
tanda2 alam ?

--- Pada Rab, 20/8/08, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id menulis:

Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 20 Agustus, 2008, 7:41 AM




--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 
wrote:

 Waduh gw lagi di jalan nih.., ngga monitor... Seru sekali 
kedengerannya. .
 

Hari ini embah bagi bagi PANADOL gratis ama pasukan Bearish, 
supaya lupa ama Bearishnya.. .hehehe.. ..




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BYAN

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik M Herman
Ampun deh nih saham ..batubara yg lain naik ..eh dia nggak (untung gue nggak 
beli IPO...tapi temen gue punya banyak )

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Naughty BoY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Naughty BoY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BYAN
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 3:29 AM










BYAN ???

 














  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: 20 - 08 - 2008

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik edwinkdr

 20 - 08 - 2008

Kalo yg ini benar2 misteri...qiqiqi

Penanggalan Jawa:

17 Ruwah 1941 
Tahun: Jimawal Windu: Kuntara Lambang: Klawu Kurup: Asapon   

Penanggalan Islam:  17 Shaban 1429 Hijryah.

Arah Kesatria yg dituju :
Batara Kamajaya

http://jv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathara_Kamajaya

Kamajaya ing lakon Partadéwa

Ing lakon Partadewa, nalika Pandhawa padha ngupadi murcané Arjuna kang
wektu kuwi dadi ratu ana Kahyangan Tinjomaya jejuluk Prabu Karitin iya
Kathili, Kamajaya tumurun ing marcapada salin dadi pandhita mudha
peparap Begawan Partadewa kang jejibahané ngunduraké barisané para
Kurawa kang nedya ngrebut dhampar negara Amarta. Kanthi dibantu para
putra-putra Pandhawa (Gathotkaca, Antareja, Antasena, Abimanyu,
Setyaki, lan sakpituruté) Begawan Partadewa bisa nundhung Kurawa saka
Amarta.

-- Terjadi Rebound --
Begawan Partadewa bisa nundhung Kurawa saka Amarta.
-- ha ha ha...ga nyambung...:-p ---

Bathara Kamajaya iku bisa tumekaning pati kobar déning geni kang metu
saka netrané Bathara Guru kang angka telu.

-- Batara Kamajaya meninggal karena terkena kobar api yg keluar dari
mata ketiga Batara Guru --

Prakiraan watak
orang kelahiran Rabu Kliwon

Dipengaruhi oleh lintang tiwa-tiwa, sopan santun, ramah tamah, lemah
lembut lembaganya dan pandai menyusun kata-katanya hingga kerap kali
pembicaraannya menarik pendengarnya. Tapi sayang telinganya tipis dan
mudah tersinggung

Lintang Tiwa-tiwa : identik dengan : cremation. :-)

Prakiraan watak
orang kelahiran wuku Dungulan

Pembawaan Dalang, kayunya Lotanda dan Tangan, burungnya Elang, gedung
terkunci, ternak Garuda. 

Wataknya : Tetap hati, dapat melegakan hati susah, cinta kebajikan,
dermawan, pengasih, sekalipun rejekinya kecil. Ringan tangan agak suka
pada kepunyaan orang lain. Bernafsu besar, mudah marah



Jadi untuk hari ini memang cukup melegakan hati, walaupun rejekinya
agak kecil...;-)

..

Akhir kata.

Pesan ini dibuat secara IRRASIONAL
dan didukung pembuatannya oleh Ki Edan tenananha ha ha

OOT...ya di sore hari...:-)

Tks

Best Regards


Cerita Dengan Huruf T

Takkala Temperatur Terik Terbakar Terus, Tukang Tempe Tetap Tabah,
Tempe-tempe, Teriaknya. Ternyata Teriakan Tukang Tempe Tadi
Terdengar Tukang Tahu, Terpaksa Teriakannya Tambah Tinggi,
Tahu...Tahu...Tahu...!

Tempenya Terbaik, Tempenya Terenak, Tempenya Terkenal!!, Timpal
Tukang Tempe . Tukang Tahu Tidak Terima,Tempenya Tengik, Tempenya
Tawar, Tempenya Terjelek!

Tukang Tempe Tertegun, Terhenyak, Teplakkk...! Tamparannya Tepat
Terkena Tukang Tahu. Tapi Tukang Tahu Tidak Terkalahkan, Tendangannya
Tepat Terkena Tulang Tungkai Tukang Tempe .

Tukang Tempe Terjengkang Tumbang! Tapi Terus Tegak, Tatapannya
Terhunus Tajam Terhadap Tukang Tahu. Tetapi, Tukang Tahu Tidak
Terpengaruh Tatapan Tajam Tukang Tempe Tersebut, Tidak Takut!!
Tantang Tukang Tahu.

Tidak Ternyana Tangan Tukang Tempe Terkepal, Tinjunya Terarah, Terus
Tonjokkannya Tepat Terkena Tukang Tahu, Tak Terelakkan! Tujuh Tempat
Terkena Tinjunya, Tonjokan Terakhir Tepat Terkena Telak.

Tukang Tahu Terjerembab. Tolong.. Tolong.. Tolong..!, Teriaknya
Terdengar Tinggi. Tetapi Tanpa Tunda Tempo, Tukang Tempe Teruskan
Teriakannya, Tempe .. Tempe .. Tempe ..!!


Alasan Sebenarnya Kenapa Zidane Menyeruduk

Gue dapet info ini dari temen bokap gue namanya Toro. Walaupun sudah
sekian lama terjadi kejadian Zidane nyeruduk Zidane masih saja ingin
memberitahukan yang sebenarnya terjadi, lalu dia pun bercerita:

Z :Begini ceritanya, jadi ketika pertandingan final, saya tidak
sengaja menabrak Materazzi, lalu Materazzi bilang:

M :Nyokap lo gila (Zidane Diem)
M :Satu keluarga loe gila (Zidane Diem)

Z :Akhirnya, saya pun capek mendengarkan dia, saya tinggal saja,
tapi tiba tiba dia bilang

M :LO MANTAN PEMAIN PSSI ya ?

Z :Saya tidak terima, saya langsung saja seruduk!!

Test Kejiwaan 3 Orang Gila

Pada hari pengetesan pasien sang dokter selalu melakukan test jiwanya
pada 3 org pasien dan test tersebut berupa kolam renang yang tidak ada
airnya. Dokter menyuruh pasien melompat

Dokter : Kamu yg pertama ayo berenang!!
Pasien1 : Siap dokter... (dia melompat... gubrakk) sakittt..
Dokter : Ternyata masih sakit jiwanya,dia lompat ke kolam kosong,
masukan dia ke ruangannya kembali
Dokter : Kamu selanjutnya
Pasien2 : Siap dokter...(Hore benerenan. gubrakkk) adu
kok ga ada airrr...
Dokter : weleh... sama juga masih belum sembuh
Dokter : Kamu yg terakhir ayo berenang
Pasien3 : Saya tidak mau dokter!
Dokter : Lohh kenapa?? kamu tau kolam itu tidak ada air??
Pasien3 : Bukan dokter, karena saya takut DINGIN!!


Petani Coklat Membeli Ponsel Baru

Ada seorang petani coklat dari kampung ke kota Makassar dengan membawa
banyak sekali uang hasil penjualan coklat. Mereka bermaksud
membelanjakan uang yang berlimpah itu.

Datanglah mereka ke sebuah gerai handphone terbesar di kota itu.

Saya hendak membeli hape type yang paling baru kata petani itu.

Oh 

[obrolan-bandar] Kapan MEDC balik ke 5000????

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik giek Doang
bisa help kapan buyback nya selesaiKS kayak main layangan 
tarik ulur doang. Dulu Pak Eka S paling getol posting ini saham


  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Andro Meda
My Dear Bearer,

 Sadarilah bahwa BEI adalah Bumi Empunya Index = Bull Emang Indah, Jangan
harap saham lainya naik kalau Bumi tidak naik.Sudah terbukti, Marilah para
bearer daripada hanya menonton turut joint bersama para Buller enjoy the
BUMI ride to 1 otomasi saham lainnya akan naik juga tuh...
Ciao...




On 8/20/08, Maddy Vain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  COAL and CPO still the best!
 Banyak rumor seru di sektor ini... sektor yang bikin bozz ngiler, masih ada
 yg bilang komoditas sudah berakhir? Kita tunggu sampai awal 2009 deh
 myBUMI pasti sudah 10rebu.


 --- On *Wed, 8/20/08, Andreas Butar Butar [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:


 From: Andreas Butar Butar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:55 AM

Mbah kayaknya kita mesti balik lagi nie
 Main CPO dan COAL
 Begitu berita INFORMASI JALANAN,,,


 NewBie


 AB


 --- On *Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com* wrote:

 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:43 AM

5275 Sell Done..., ngaso dulu ahh..., Thanks GOD !

 Yg mau lanjut, silahkan..., GoodLuck

 Salam,
 JsxTrader


 - Original Message 
 From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54:49
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

 hahahaha itu kalau si sultan datang mbah menghilang

 karena sultan pro bumi, jadi embah ga usa balancing lagi hehehehe

 kemaren sultan menghilang ampir 1 minggu hahaha makanya embah aktif



 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
 
  Kalau masuknya kemarin pas harga nyentuh support ya ngga salah-salah
 amat.
  hehe., ngga  apa-apa udah cuan toh?
 
  Eh.., btw jgn panggil Mbah, itu boss besar.., itu panggilan JSX
  KONconyaSULTAN. . hehe.
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Lala Tobing
  Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 10:33
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
 
 
 
  maksudnya yang exit di 5100 adalah sebuah kesalahan mbah ?
 
  gimana ? bingung nih
 
 
 
  --- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
 
  From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 3:31 AM
 
  BD tampaknya mengiring trader utk exit di 5100., tampaknya cukup
 berhasil..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
  Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 9:33
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
 
 
  ENJOY YOUR MEAL . !!
 
 
 
  JsxTrader
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
  Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 16:28
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 2
 
 
 
  Moga-moga besok 4850 ngga Jebol., kalau tembus dgn heavy vol dan CLOSE
  dibawah itu.., jangan ragu-ragu untuk kabrrr.. GoodLuck.
 
 
 
  JsxTrader
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
  Sent: 19 Agustus 2008 12:12
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; analisasaham@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - tech view - SESI 1
 
 
 
  Touch support level 4850 WITHOUT volume, probability tembus kecil
 tapi bukan
  tidak mungkin...
 
 
 
  trading strategy; buy at support level.., CUT jika support level tembus
  dengan HEAVY vol.  Resiko ditanggung penumpang.., GoodLuck !!
 
 
 
  JsxTrader
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bei.alert -- More Quotes Please

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik abdulrahim abdulrahim
Menurut pak Ryuki, pembuat BOT di IRC, semuanya dari Yahoo Finance semua
katanya om kidod25, b5oeryo.

 abdulrahmanrahim pak Ryuki, boleh tau akhirnya ngambil dari mana aja info
untuk:
abdulrahmanrahim DJI
abdulrahmanrahim Dow Fut
abdulrahmanrahim Gold
abdulrahmanrahim CPO
abdulrahmanrahim Coal
abdulrahmanrahim FTSE
abdulrahmanrahim HSI
abdulrahmanrahim dan lain
abdulrahmanrahim thanks ya
  Ryuki dari yahoo pak
  abdulrahmanrahim Semuanya dari Yahoo?
Ryuki iya
Ryuki :)
abdulrahmanrahim soalnya kidod25 mau bikin bot nya di YM, dia nanya
ambilnya darimana datanya
abdulrahmanrahim selama ini cuma saham BEI doang di bot yang udah dia buat
Ryuki semuanya dari yahho finance pak
abdulrahmanrahim boleh saya kasih tau ya, ambilnya dari yahoo finance
abdulrahmanrahim ?
Ryuki iya pak
abdulrahmanrahim ok, thanks ya
Ryuki sama2 pak


Thanks ya om kidod25  b5oeryo.

Berikut beberapa contoh keluaran BOT yang dibikin Ryuki di IRC:

*abdulrahmanrahim !oil
ObrolBandar CLU08.NYM (Crude Oil Price) - 114.73 +0.20 | 8/20/2008 4:14am

  schol7r !ihsg
ObrolBandar ^JKSE (Jakarta Composite Index) - 2064.981 +22.483 |
8/20/2008 4:52am

  thomasfrederick !hsi
ObrolBandar ^HSI (HANG SENG INDEX) - 20931.26 +446.89 | 8/20/2008 4:07am

thomasfrederick !nikkei
ObrolBandar ^N225 (NIKKEI 225) - 12851.69 -13.36 | 8/20/2008 2:00am

abdulrahmanrahim !cpo
ObrolBandar OIL.CM (COL IND OIL PALMS) - 23652.00 +316.859 | 8/19/2008
7:11am

abdulrahmanrahim !gold
ObrolBandar GCZ08.CMX (Gold Price) - 812.70 -4.10 | 8/20/2008 5:30am

  abdulrahmanrahim !coal
ObrolBandar ^DJUSCL (Dow Jones U.S. Coal Index) - 498.80

abdulrahmanrahim !dowfut
ObrolBandar DJU08.CBT (Dow Jones Indus. Sep 08) - 11356.00 0.00 |
8/19/2008 4:15pm
*

2008/8/20 b5oeryo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Mgkn yg buat bot IRC, bs kasi info ke saya, ambil data2 tsb dr mana ?

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 pak Kidod25,udah ditambahin belon quote yang pentign2 di bawah ini?
 Mungkin perlu tambah timah, nikel dan gold sekalian. thks

 he he he...

 Pak Ryuki bantuin pak Kidod25 dunk.

 it's easier to consult the last price in YM than in IRC.
 pls. thks

 2008/8/16 abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Siapa tuh ya kemaren yang bikin BOT bei.alert di YM.
  Kayak di IRC room, tambahin dunk:
 
  futures:
  oil
  cpo
  coal
  dan komoditas lainnya
  dow fut juga
 
  Terus index juga:
  dji
  hsi
  nikkei
  ftse
  cac40
 
  dll
 
  Thanks


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - tech view - SESI 1

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Iyah - kayaknya ada hub 'ama China sbg pengguna energi paling gede di
dunia - dg selesainya olimpiade di China tentunya tingkat konsumsi akan
meningkat2 kembali

Happy Chuan,

Aria

 komoditas kemarin2 itu cuma koreksi, komoditas itu tetap diperlukan.
 pada waktunya akan rebound kembali, FM tetap mengumpulkan, selama
 market fluktuatif utk apa harga cepat2 ditarik ke atas, apalagi jika
 US kembali pulih, dan negara2 emerging market (non SDA) ikut
 terangkat, demand akan komoditas akan kembali tinggi.
 note : Saat sekarang China defisit energi.
 salam

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Butar Butar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mbah kayaknya kita mesti balik lagi nie
 Main CPO dan COAL
 Begitu berita INFORMASI JALANAN,,,


 NewBie


 AB






[obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 +155 atau +6%
dari www.palmoil.com

Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...

Pak Vincent,

Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.

Thanks A LOT ...







[obrolan-bandar] Re: NASABAH PERUSAHAAN SEKURITAS

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik ska
Selamat sore,  
Sebelumnya mohon maaf telah mengganggu waktu anda. 
Saya mahasiswa Marketing Management memohon kesediaan Anda semua 
untuk mengisi kuesioner ini, sebagai keperluan penelitian untuk tugas 
akhir mengenai Perilaku Nasabah Perusahaan Sekuritas di Indonesia. 
Untuk itu, kami sangat mengharapkan partisipasi Bapak/Ibu sekalian 
untuk  mengisi kuesioner dengan mengklik link dibawah ini : 

http://www.my3q.com/go.php?url=ska0804/44030
 atau 
http://www.esurveyspro.com/Survey.aspx?id=6fd18ebf-88a3-494d-b3dc-
86fa3dff7134

Besar harapan kami Bapak/Ibu bersedia untuk mengisi survei ini. 
Apabila ada masukan silahkan anda menghubungi email saya.  
Atas waktu yang telah disediakan, bantuan dan partisipasinya, saya 
ucapkan banyak terima kasih.
 
Salam, 
Siska




[obrolan-bandar] Oil Steadies Above $114 Ahead of US Inventories

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Anggur Red


Oil Steadies Above $114 Ahead of US Inventories
By Reuters | 20 Aug 2008 | 05:20 AM ET 
Oil prices steadied above $114 a barrel on Wednesday, after a lower U.S. dollar 
rekindled buying in oil and other commodities.
 


 
U.S. crude [EMAIL PROTECTED] 114..26    -0.27  (-0.24%)] was flat, rising for a 
second day, after prices had slid about 22 percent from the record peak of 
$147.27 a barrel in mid-July.
London Brent crude [EMAIL PROTECTED] 113.24    -0.01  (-0.01%)] was steady.
There could be further upside, but it will not be that much because of the 
poor economic outlook (in the West), said Gerard Rigby of Fuel First 
Consulting in Sydney.
The dollar steadied on Wednesday, but was off a seven-month high as concerns 
about the U.S. financial system weighed on sentiment for the greenback.
Eyes were also on the upcoming weekly U.S.. oil products data to be released by 
the Energy Information Administration later on Wednesday.
On average, the expanded poll called for a 800,000-barrel increase in crude 
supplies, while gasoline stockpiles were forecast to show a 2.7 million-barrel 
fall, down for the fourth-straight week.
Prices are unlikely to go below $100 a barrel in the short term because robust 
demand for crude oil in China and India will help offset bearish sentiment in 
the West, Rigby said.
However, Chinese demand for diesel and gasoline is set to fall from its surge 
in recent months ahead of the Olympics.
PetroChina and Sinopec will halt diesel imports next month, having bought more 
than half a million tons for August.
OPEC-member Venezuela will be proposing an oil production cut at the next 
meeting of the oil cartel in September if prices continue to fall, energy 
minister Rafael Ramirez told Reuters on Tuesday.
That is why we won't see prices falling below $112 a barrel, Rigby said.
Political upheaval in producer countries and the threat of bad weather in the 
Gulf of Mexico would continue to underpin crude markets.
Unrest in Nigeria would cushion any dramatic fall in prices, as the 
deteriorating security situation in the Niger Delta has shut a fifth of its 2 
million barrels per day (bpd) oil capacity.
Worries over supplies also came after StatoilHydro said it discovered a small 
gas leak in a pipeline between the Kvitebjoern platform in the North Sea and 
the onshore Kollsnes gas processing facility, which will reduce oil production.
But gas customers will not be affected by the leakage, it added.
Copyright 2008 Reuters. Click for restrictions.


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Yanuar Mustofa
di malaysia tutupnya 2591.
dr td siang emang sy amati harga naek terus.
semoga pertanda baik buat komoditi semuanya dech..




- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 5:35:38
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?


CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 +155 atau +6%
dari www.palmoil. com

Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...

Pak Vincent, 

Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.

Thanks A LOT ...




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Tom DS
*Iya Pak Tang...*
**
**
*Nah ini dia nih guru saya sudah turun gunung*
**
**
*T.o.m*


On 8/20/08, Welli Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jualan apa saja juga ada resiko, kalau gak laku nanti diomelin boss...
 ya nga pak Tom?



 2008/8/19 Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*Ikutan comment ah..*
 **
 *Kalau kata pak Abraham Lembang, jualan bakmie aja ada resiko... Resiko
 loss of working capital kalau nggak laku..*
 **
 **
 *T.o.m*


 On 8/18/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Hubert Nice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Ja Benar

  SIP : TBUMI

 Semua investasi baik di saham maupun bisnis (seperti pertanian,

 perkebunan, supermarket) tentu ada resiko rugi juga. Kelebihan

 investasi di saham yaitu investasi ini tak membutuhkan biaya

 operasi seperti biaya sewa tempat, gaji pegawai dll. Bila kondisi

 market tak baik, disimpan saja saham saham tsb.

  --- On Sun, 8/17/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:59 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Ocean Blue
 ocean.lagoon@ ...
  wrote:
  
   Hahaha Pak tibum ketauan banyak pegang aali ya? Even pak tibum
   yg udah byk pengalaman aja bisa stress bin keki ama target bawah
 aali.
 
   SIP : TBUMI
 
  Jika bukan kami yg menikmati harga AALI saat ini, biar saja anak
 
  cucu kami yang akan nikmati cuan di ANTM, BUMI, AALI, UNSP, INCO
 DLL.
 





 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI PANADOL

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik paramanandana

Pembagian THRnya utk lebaran thn brp pak, 2009?



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-Original Message-
From: M Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:02:53 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI  PANADOL


Ambil sekarang deh BUMI...sampe pembagian THR akan tetap naik trendnya 

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, giek Doang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: giek Doang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI  PANADOL
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:12 AM











PANADOL  BODREX 15 ribu ditelan 4 menit sebelum tutup
tanda2 alam ?

--- Pada Rab, 20/8/08, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id menulis:

Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Rabu, 20 Agustus, 2008, 7:41 AM




--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 
wrote:

 Waduh gw lagi di jalan nih.., ngga monitor... Seru sekali 
kedengerannya. .
 

Hari ini embah bagi bagi PANADOL gratis ama pasukan Bearish, 
supaya lupa ama Bearishnya.. .hehehe.. ..




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Anggur Red
Secara tidak langsung sektor perbankan tentunya akan mengikuti 
pula, berhubung beberapa bank besar memiliki credit exposure cukup besar di 
sektor pertanian dan pertambangan..
Harga Palm Oil (sumber reuters)
Last price    : 2570 ( + 140 atau naik 5.76%)
 
http://www.reuters.com/finance/commodities/oilseeds#palm



- Original Message 
From: Yanuar Mustofa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:43:13 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% Pak Vincent, tolong graphic 
CPO ?


di malaysia tutupnya 2591.
dr td siang emang sy amati harga naek terus.
semoga pertanda baik buat komoditi semuanya dech..




- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 5:35:38
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?


CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 +155 atau +6%
dari www.palmoil. com

Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...

Pak Vincent, 

Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.

Thanks A LOT 



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bei.alert -- More Quotes Please

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik chery thalia
pak kok itu kebanyak value untuk future yah?,., kalo yang untuk harga spot 
gimana?



thx

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bei.alert -- More Quotes Please
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 6:25 AM

Menurut pak Ryuki, pembuat BOT di IRC, semuanya dari Yahoo Finance semua 
katanya om kidod25, b5oeryo.

 abdulrahmanrahim pak Ryuki, boleh tau akhirnya ngambil dari mana aja info 
untuk:
abdulrahmanrahim DJI
 abdulrahmanrahim Dow Fut
abdulrahmanrahim Gold
abdulrahmanrahim CPO
abdulrahmanrahim Coal
abdulrahmanrahim FTSE
abdulrahmanrahim HSI
abdulrahmanrahim dan lain
 abdulrahmanrahim thanks ya
       Ryuki dari yahoo pak
       abdulrahmanrahim Semuanya dari Yahoo?
Ryuki iya
Ryuki :)
abdulrahmanrahim soalnya kidod25 mau bikin bot nya di YM, dia nanya ambilnya 
darimana datanya
 abdulrahmanrahim selama ini cuma saham BEI doang di bot yang udah dia buat
Ryuki semuanya dari yahho finance pak
abdulrahmanrahim boleh saya kasih tau ya, ambilnya dari yahoo finance
abdulrahmanrahim ?
 Ryuki iya pak
abdulrahmanrahim ok, thanks ya
Ryuki sama2 pak


Thanks ya om kidod25  b5oeryo.

Berikut beberapa contoh keluaran BOT yang dibikin Ryuki di IRC:

abdulrahmanrahim !oil
ObrolBandar CLU08.NYM (Crude Oil Price) - 114.73 +0.20 | 8/20/2008 4:14am

       schol7r !ihsg
ObrolBandar ^JKSE (Jakarta Composite Index) - 2064.981 +22.483 | 8/20/2008 
4:52am

       thomasfrederick !hsi
ObrolBandar ^HSI (HANG SENG INDEX) - 20931.26 +446.89 | 8/20/2008 4:07am

thomasfrederick !nikkei
ObrolBandar ^N225 (NIKKEI 225) - 12851.69 -13.36 | 8/20/2008 2:00am

abdulrahmanrahim !cpo
ObrolBandar OIL.CM (COL IND OIL PALMS) - 23652.00 +316.859 | 8/19/2008 7:11am

abdulrahmanrahim !gold
ObrolBandar GCZ08.CMX (Gold Price) - 812.70 -4.10 | 8/20/2008 5:30am

       abdulrahmanrahim !coal
ObrolBandar ^DJUSCL (Dow Jones U.S. Coal Index) - 498.80

abdulrahmanrahim !dowfut
ObrolBandar DJU08.CBT (Dow Jones Indus. Sep 08) - 11356.00 0.00 | 8/19/2008 
4:15pm


2008/8/20 b5oeryo [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id:
 Mgkn yg buat bot IRC, bs kasi info ke saya, ambil data2 tsb dr mana ?

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, abdulrahim abdulrahim
 
 abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 pak Kidod25,udah ditambahin belon quote yang pentign2 di bawah ini?
 Mungkin perlu tambah timah, nikel dan gold sekalian. thks

  he he he...

 Pak Ryuki bantuin pak Kidod25 dunk.

 it's easier to consult the last price in YM than in IRC.
 pls. thks

 2008/8/16 abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Siapa tuh ya kemaren yang bikin BOT bei.alert di YM.
  Kayak di IRC room, tambahin dunk:
 
  futures:
  oil
  cpo
  coal
   dan komoditas lainnya
  dow fut juga
 
  Terus index juga:
  dji
  hsi
  nikkei
  ftse
  cac40
  
  dll
 
  Thanks
  


  

[obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar, Pak TOM DS?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik win





[obrolan-bandar] Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000


The bear warrior is DEAD






Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Andri Irawan
Besok mungkin tembus mbah?



2008/8/20 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 +155 atau +6%
 dari www.palmoil.com

 Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...

 Pak Vincent,

 Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
 garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.

 Thanks A LOT ...

  

attachment: agmasifs.png

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik David Hartanto
Apa artinya sudah boleh masuk ke ANTM  INCO lagi Mbah? BNBR masih di hold nich 
Mbah.

--- Pada Rab, 20/8/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
Dari: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 20 Agustus, 2008, 7:24 PM











Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000



The bear warrior is DEAD




  




 

















  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik David Hartanto
Still hold FPNI Pak Tom?

--- Pada Rab, 20/8/08, Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
Dari: Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 20 Agustus, 2008, 5:48 PM











Iya Pak Tang...
 
 
Nah ini dia nih guru saya sudah turun gunung
 
 
T.o.m

 
On 8/20/08, Welli Tang welli.stock@ gmail.com wrote:







Jualan apa saja juga ada resiko, kalau gak laku nanti diomelin boss...  ya nga 
pak Tom?
 

 
2008/8/19 Tom DS tom.ds.stock@ gmail.com 








Ikutan comment ah..
 
Kalau kata pak Abraham Lembang, jualan bakmie aja ada resiko... Resiko loss of 
working capital kalau nggak laku..
 
 
T.o.m

 
On 8/18/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id wrote: 





--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Hubert Nice [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 
wrote:


  
  
 Ja Benar 

 SIP : TBUMI

Semua investasi baik di saham maupun bisnis (seperti pertanian,

perkebunan, supermarket) tentu ada resiko rugi juga. Kelebihan

investasi di saham yaitu investasi ini tak membutuhkan biaya


operasi seperti biaya sewa tempat, gaji pegawai dll. Bila kondisi

market tak baik, disimpan saja saham saham tsb. 

 --- On Sun, 8/17/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:59 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Ocean Blue 
ocean.lagoon@ ... 
 wrote:
 

  Hahaha Pak tibum ketauan banyak pegang aali ya? Even pak tibum
  yg udah byk pengalaman aja bisa stress bin keki ama target bawah 
aali.
 
  SIP : TBUMI
 
 Jika bukan kami yg menikmati harga AALI saat ini, biar saja anak 

 
 cucu kami yang akan nikmati cuan di ANTM, BUMI, AALI, UNSP, INCO 
DLL.






 
 


  




 

















  
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[obrolan-bandar] Emas jeblok, oil dan komo lain naik

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Kidod25
Mm mm jam 10 nih pengumuman oil, sptnya ...



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Hendra Susanto
*Trading Plan buat besok, pagi-pagi hajar kanan CPO..*

Take Profit 10-20% saja. Belum berani keep long, semoga sorenya sudah bisa
kejual...

ngarep-mode.com ^_^



2008/8/20 Andri Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Besok mungkin tembus mbah?



 2008/8/20 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 +155 atau +6%
 dari www.palmoil.com

 Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...

 Pak Vincent,

 Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
 garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.

 Thanks A LOT ...


  



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
wah sy td sudah keburu pulang , baru buka ob lagi sekarang

iya keliatannya short term downtrend channel pecah soalnya dgn harga tertinggi 
tadi pagi saja, harga sudah hampir sentuh  ST resistant down trend

besok sy liat lagi deh hehehe 

Hendra Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Trading Plan buat besok, pagi-pagi hajar kanan CPO..

Take Profit 10-20% saja. Belum berani keep long, semoga sorenya sudah bisa 
kejual...

 ngarep-mode.com ^_^



2008/8/20 Andri Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
Besok mungkin tembus mbah?



2008/8/20 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 
+155 atau +6%
 dari www.palmoil.com
 
 Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...
 
 Pak Vincent, 
 
 Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
 garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.
 
 Thanks A LOT ...
 
 
 
 
  





  
 
  




 
 
   

   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
ahh sip deh, dah dikasih,moga moga besok tembus doain aja boss bekerja di cpo 
sector besok 

Andri Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Besok mungkin tembus mbah?



2008/8/20 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 
+155 atau +6%
 dari www.palmoil.com
 
 Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...
 
 Pak Vincent, 
 
 Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
 garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.
 
 Thanks A LOT ...
 
 
 
 
  




 
 
   

   

[obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jos_martino
Crude Oil Inventories tak diduga NAIK diatas estimate.
Estimate 0.7M barrels, actual sampe 9.4M... Buset!!!

Selamat buat bung JSX yang udah EXIT tadi..

Happy chuan
rgs,
JM



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Tom DS
*Sempat lepas sebentar tapi minggu lalu sedikit2 sudah mulai net buy..*
**
*Tunggu akhir minggu ini mau lihat market regional BOPP  PE plastics dulu..
*
**
**
*T.o.m*


On 8/20/08, David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Still hold FPNI Pak Tom?

 --- Pada *Rab, 20/8/08, Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED]* menulis:

 Dari: Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Rabu, 20 Agustus, 2008, 5:48 PM

   *Iya Pak Tang...*
 **
 **
 *Nah ini dia nih guru saya sudah turun gunung*
 **
 **
 *T.o.m*


 On 8/20/08, Welli Tang welli.stock@ gmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

Jualan apa saja juga ada resiko, kalau gak laku nanti diomelin
 boss...  ya nga pak Tom?



 2008/8/19 Tom DS tom.ds.stock@ gmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*Ikutan comment ah..*
 **
 *Kalau kata pak Abraham Lembang, jualan bakmie aja ada resiko... Resiko
 loss of working capital kalau nggak laku..*
 **
 **
 *T.o.m*


 On 8/18/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
 comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Hubert Nice [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Ja Benar

  SIP : TBUMI

 Semua investasi baik di saham maupun bisnis (seperti pertanian,

 perkebunan, supermarket) tentu ada resiko rugi juga. Kelebihan

 investasi di saham yaitu investasi ini tak membutuhkan biaya

 operasi seperti biaya sewa tempat, gaji pegawai dll. Bila kondisi

 market tak baik, disimpan saja saham saham tsb.

  --- On Sun, 8/17/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:59 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Ocean Blue
 ocean.lagoon@ ...
  wrote:
  
   Hahaha Pak tibum ketauan banyak pegang aali ya? Even pak tibum
   yg udah byk pengalaman aja bisa stress bin keki ama target bawah
 aali.
 
   SIP : TBUMI
 
  Jika bukan kami yg menikmati harga AALI saat ini, biar saja anak
 
  cucu kami yang akan nikmati cuan di ANTM, BUMI, AALI, UNSP, INCO
 DLL.
 









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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Rei
Mbah, sebetulnya pemicu utama kenaikan komo ini krn usd melemah thd euro atau 
berita china mau memberikan stimulus ekonomi? Berita pertama yg saya baca sih 
krn usd melemah thd euro...trims Mbah.



- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:24:38 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000


Alert: Nickel naik ke 9000

The bear warrior is DEAD

 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar, Pak TOM DS?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Parama Nandana
 
Iya bener, bagaimana pak Tom? Buktikan merahmu...!
 


--- On Wed, 8/20/08, win [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: win [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar, Pak 
TOM DS?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:59 AM







 
 
 
  














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar, Pak TOM DS?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Tom DS
*Maintain my target price on several factors:*
*- regional tight supply  bullish BOPP  PE plastics market after China
Olympics.*
*- dramastically higher market share esp after running on its third PE
reactor (increase output)*
*- deeper market penetration*
*- better management of BOPP producer*
*- synergy from reverse takeover (pasca fatrapolindo acquisition), esp on
raw material supply*
*- 2009/2010 plan on new project investment of Raw Material plant... huge
ever in Indonesia history.. (still not confirmed yet)*
**
**
*T.o.m*


On 8/20/08, win [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar, Pak TOM DS?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Tom DS
*Kemarin-kemarin kan sudah terbukti merahnya.. tinggal hijaunya di waktu
yang tersisa 5 bulan ini sampai eoy 2008.*
*Nanti ya tunggu akhir minggu, ada data market regional yang harus
dikonfirmasi dulu mengenai market BOPP  PE plastics.*
**
**
*T.o.m*


On 8/20/08, Parama Nandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Iya bener, bagaimana pak Tom? Buktikan merahmu...!



 --- On *Wed, 8/20/08, win [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:


 From: win [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar,
 Pak TOM DS?
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:59 AM







 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar, Pak TOM DS?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik paramanandana

Ok deh kita tunggu tgl mainnya.

Btw, bgmn dgn iring2an sirkusnya, koq blm muncul juga ya? Apakah still on 
progress? 



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-Original Message-
From: Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:20:44 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar, 
Pak TOM DS?


*Kemarin-kemarin kan sudah terbukti merahnya.. tinggal hijaunya di waktu
yang tersisa 5 bulan ini sampai eoy 2008.*
*Nanti ya tunggu akhir minggu, ada data market regional yang harus
dikonfirmasi dulu mengenai market BOPP  PE plastics.*
**
**
*T.o.m*


On 8/20/08, Parama Nandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Iya bener, bagaimana pak Tom? Buktikan merahmu...!



 --- On *Wed, 8/20/08, win [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:


 From: win [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dgn FPNI setelah Lap Keu uda keluar,
 Pak TOM DS?
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:59 AM







 




RE: [obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Thank you Pak Jos..,

Yup OIL drop lagi.., waduh mudah-mudahan temen-temen yg lain juga bisa
keluar dengan selamat.

Jujur aja sebenernya saya lebih suka harga minyak turun (apalagi kalau udh
clear dari BUMI...hehe) karena biar bagaimanapun ngga healthy buat
perekonomian kita. 

JsxTrader

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jos_martino
Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 21:52
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!

Crude Oil Inventories tak diduga NAIK diatas estimate.
Estimate 0.7M barrels, actual sampe 9.4M... Buset!!!

Selamat buat bung JSX yang udah EXIT tadi..

Happy chuan
rgs,
JM





[obrolan-bandar] Bullish tanpa volume=Be Careful....

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jos_martino
Ditengah eforia bullish tadi ada yang sedikit mengganjal yaitu volume 
kecil dan saham CPO seperti bergerak ditempat saja.

Malam ini ternyata terbukti, bhw keragu-raguan itu karena Crude 
Inventory US membengkak dan MElemahnya Euro. Pasti BD sudah punya 
bocoran.

Oil dan komoditi agaknya BAKAL JATUH lagi alias EDI TANSIL Ejakulasi 
Dini Tanpa Hasil. Be Careful!!!

Goog Luck
rgs,
JM



RE: [obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik felix gunawan
dan juga healthy buat kepentingan nasional dan masyarakatt banyak

krn saya kapitalnya kecil.anggaplah bumi naik 100 persen toh duit cuan 
gw nambahnya gak seberapa dibandingkan harga yg musti dibayar buat kenaikan 
inflasi 

apalagi jutaan manusia yg lain yg gak main saham dan para pekerja klas kecil.

Jika oil jatuh dan sektor lain bergerakny naik maka bisa LEBIH cuan krn 
inflasinya gak naik

--- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:33 AM











Thank you Pak Jos..,



Yup OIL drop lagi.., waduh mudah-mudahan temen-temen yg lain juga bisa

keluar dengan selamat.



Jujur aja sebenernya saya lebih suka harga minyak turun (apalagi kalau udh

clear dari BUMI...hehe) karena biar bagaimanapun ngga healthy buat

perekonomian kita. 



JsxTrader



-Original Message-

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]

On Behalf Of jos_martino

Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 21:52

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!



Crude Oil Inventories tak diduga NAIK diatas estimate.

Estimate 0.7M barrels, actual sampe 9.4M... Buset!!!



Selamat buat bung JSX yang udah EXIT tadi..



Happy chuan

rgs,

JM




  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik jos_martino
Dan juga HEALTHY buat yang pegang saham BANK, PROPERTY, CONSUMER 
he..he..he.LOL

BTW, Elaine pasti lagi ketawa NGAKAK...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, felix gunawan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dan juga healthy buat kepentingan nasional dan masyarakatt banyak
 
 krn saya kapitalnya kecil.anggaplah bumi naik 100 persen 
toh duit cuan gw nambahnya gak seberapa dibandingkan harga yg musti 
dibayar buat kenaikan inflasi 
 
 apalagi jutaan manusia yg lain yg gak main saham dan para pekerja 
klas kecil.
 
 Jika oil jatuh dan sektor lain bergerakny naik maka bisa LEBIH 
cuan krn inflasinya gak naik
 
 --- On Wed, 8/20/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:33 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you Pak Jos..,
 
 
 
 Yup OIL drop lagi.., waduh mudah-mudahan temen-temen yg lain juga 
bisa
 
 keluar dengan selamat.
 
 
 
 Jujur aja sebenernya saya lebih suka harga minyak turun (apalagi 
kalau udh
 
 clear dari BUMI...hehe) karena biar bagaimanapun ngga healthy buat
 
 perekonomian kita. 
 
 
 
 JsxTrader
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com]
 
 On Behalf Of jos_martino
 
 Sent: 20 Agustus 2008 21:52
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Crude Oil Inventories MELONJAK !!!
 
 
 
 Crude Oil Inventories tak diduga NAIK diatas estimate.
 
 Estimate 0.7M barrels, actual sampe 9.4M... Buset!!!
 
 
 
 Selamat buat bung JSX yang udah EXIT tadi..
 
 
 
 Happy chuan
 
 rgs,
 
 JM





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alert: CPO +6% ....Pak Vincent, tolong graphic CPO ?

2008-08-20 Terurut Topik Cun Ming
Chart CPO bisa di lihat di www.investorsaham.com, klik di Indices, bagian menu 
atas, trus pilih aja CPO.. mau chart Oil, or Coal juga ada tuh





2008/8/20 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
 
 CPO dihajar KEATAS saat penutupan, CLOSE 2580 +155 atau +6%
 dari www.palmoil. com
 
 Sepertinya garis downtrendnya TEMBUS...
 
 Pak Vincent, 
 
 Tolong grafik dari bloomberg lagi dong, apakah
 garis DOWNTRENDnya sudah TEMBUS SECARA MEYAKINKAN ?.
 
 Thanks A LOT ...
 
 

 

  
  




 

















  

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