[obrolan-bandar] TRUB kok disandra?

[iwan jalal]

babe/nyak/ncang/ncing .TRUB disandera sampe kapan ya? ade nyang tau kagak?

trimakasih



- Original Message 
From: Jack Surya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008 9:56:10
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] REBOUND 


cayo. ..
May God Bless us Now n Forever. ..

salam
JS


2008/9/10 Jack Surya <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>

masa sih gak bisa ke 3800let see...


2008/9/10 Frendy 


ada tuh KZ yang dapat semua barangnya... ..di 
3475...
bandarnya kali nih.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:42  AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] REBOUND  

Di RTI, kejadian terendah Bumi di 3550 sebanyak 140 lot, tapi koq harga low  
ditulis 3475? 


On 9/10/08, Jack  Surya <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>  wrote: 
siapa yang dapet BUMI d 3500 tuhacik- -acik


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:33 AM, abdulrahim  abdulrahim  wrote:

Now JCI is 1900 !!

It must rebound

Today  !

 
 




  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tidak ada redemption besar2 an di REKSADANA !!!

[Kucing Tua]

maaf kang... arti gambarnya tuh apaan?

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, D O D I K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: D O D I K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tidak ada redemption besar2 an di REKSADANA !!!
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:21 AM











tidak ada redemption besar-besaran di reksadana, ...




  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] Unit Pembelian Reksadana Saham

[Anggur Red]

 



























Berdasarkan data bank kustodian Deutsche Bank, selama bulan September 2008, unit pembelian di reksadana saham masih lebih besar dari unit penjualannya
 

Berikut ini adalah data2 redemption (pencairan) & subscription (pembelian) reksadana saham yang ada di bank kustodian Deutsche Bank, sbb:
 

Date   Redemption        Subscription 
 
1 Sept 08    42,26 B                116,39 B
2 Sept 08  6,17 B  16,01 B
3 Sept 08    15,09 B                            7,15 B
4 Sept 08    18,83 B  11,76 B   
5 Sept 08  8,75 B                          29,85 B
8 Sept 08  9,41 B                          27,81 B
9 Sept 0812,57 B                          23,79 B
 
-Bank Kustodian DB adalah pengelola portofolio saham terbesar diantara bank kustodian lainnya   
 
Regards,
-AR-

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 












  

Bls: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SELL COMO BUY UNVR + INDF

[White Beauty]

Mr. Oen : I told You

--- Pada Rab, 10/9/08, Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

Dari: Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Topik: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SELL COMO BUY UNVR + INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 10 September, 2008, 4:52 AM






Era komo ternyata sudah berakhir OIL < 100, saya menyerah deh.. 


 




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB di suspend sampe kapan yah ?

[iwan jalal]

tx ,pa TBUMI infonya



- Original Message 
From: t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008 13:17:40
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB di suspend sampe kapan yah ?


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Herman Tobing" 
 wrote:
>
> Mudah-mudahan waktu open naik seperti YPAS, terakhir buy di 250
> 
> Herman
> 
> 2008/9/10 iwan jalal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >
> >  TRUB di suspend sampe kapan yah? ada yg punya info gak ?
> >
> > trima kasih.
> >
> > Sip : TBUMI

Secara fundamental TRUB termasuk baik. LK juga bagus. Jadi
tak usah takut !
> > 
> >
>




  

[obrolan-bandar] Mr. Oen anda Mrs. Maddy

[White Beauty]

 
I told you 


--- Pada Rab, 10/9/08, Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

Dari: Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Topik: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SELL COMO BUY UNVR + INDF
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 10 September, 2008, 4:52 AM






Era komo ternyata sudah berakhir OIL < 100, saya menyerah deh.. 


 




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[obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[jsx_consultant]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "artomoro9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> sebenarnya saat ini adalah kesempatan yg baik. dan kalo ihsg sdh 
> lompat, ga akan ada lagi kesempatan spt ini dan seterusnya. tp 
apakah 
> harus menuju ke situ dulu.?? baru akan lompat??
>

Bisa rebound aja udah HAPPY

Engga USAH TEPAT TEPAT LAH, yang penting NGOMONG YANG JELAS dan
prediksi DISERTAI analisanya. Kurangi posting prediksi yang
tidak disertai DATA atau ANALISA. 

Kalo engga setuju, silahkan disanggah analisanya bukan orangnya...

TAPI jangan menyanggah kalo UDAH KEJADIAN, engga FAIR




 
> 
> note :
> menunngu saja di bunker bej, sambil nunggu elaine datang lagi.
> 
> 
> salam hangat
> 
> 
> artomoro9
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  consultant@> wrote:
> >
> > One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ? 
> > 
> > http://www.invest2000.net/pwlihsg.png
> > 
> > Will it stand ?
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
> > 
> > http://www.invest2000.net/pwlbumi.png
> > 
> > 
> > Disclaimer ON
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[Lindt]

Ga usah takut ketinggalan kereta. Naiknya ga ngebut ktnya ..

Santei2 aja 


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-Original Message-
From: "Vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:18:14 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?


udah boleh beli bertahap?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ? 
> 
> http://www.invest2000.net/pwlihsg.png
> 
> Will it stand ?
> 
> --
> 
> Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
> 
> http://www.invest2000.net/pwlbumi.png
> 
> 
> Disclaimer ON
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[Prasetyo, Hani]

Tenang pak Jos, mbak IKKE lagi mo berkunjung ke Teluk Meksiko...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jos_martino
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:55 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

 

Yah ...yg mau EXIT silahkan...
Ga apa deh jadi LAST MAN STANDING!!

Sekarang saya BERDIRI dibelakang OPEC deh.
GO OPEC!!! GO..GO..!!!

he..he..he
rgs,
JM

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , Thomas Frederick 
>  wrote:
> >
> > dari gambarnya mbah... masih ada jalan ke 1680an ya mbah??
> >
> 
> Semua kemungkinan masih ADA, Analisa technical kan BERANGKAT dari
> DATA yg sudah terjadi, jadi prediksi technical masih dibatasi
> WACANA masa LALU...
> 
> Prediksi IHSG sebenarnya tergantung apakah minyak akan jebol
> level $100. Saat ini $103,4 jadi SAAT INI SANGAT KRITIS
> 
> Kalo anda percaya minyak akan jebol $100, lebih baik anda EXIT.
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> > 
> > Thank You! 
> >  
> > ThomaS FredericK
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant  wrote:
> > 
> > From: jsx_consultant 
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:10 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ? 
> > 
> > http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlihsg. png
> > 
> > Will it stand ?
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
> > 
> > http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlbumi. png
> > 
> > Disclaimer ON
> >
>

 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tidak ada redemption besar2 an di REKSADANA !!!

[jsx_consultant]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kucing Tua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> maaf kang... arti gambarnya tuh apaan?
>

Kemarin ketika index jatuh DALAM, Reksadana mengalami NET
SUBSCRIPTION (Redemption < Subscription),

Net subscription : 421 - 333 = 88 miliar. Jadi ini MENEPIS
provokasi adanya REDEMPTION besar besaran.

Note:
- Net Subscription Reksadana tidak berarti IHSG harus naik !!!




> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, D O D I K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: D O D I K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tidak ada redemption besar2 an di
REKSADANA !!!
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:21 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> tidak ada redemption besar-besaran di reksadana, ...
>

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[bayu murti]

mo rebound aja dah susah bgt, berat banget keknya...emmm 18xx kl oil 90-100
16xx kl oil 80an13xx kl oil 60anKeknya gt yg aq tangkep skenarionya... Tinggal 
yakin kejadian yg mana..
--- Pada Rab, 10/9/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
Dari: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 10 September, 2008, 6:58 AM










 







--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "artomoro9" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ..> 

wrote:

>

> sebenarnya saat ini adalah kesempatan yg baik. dan kalo ihsg sdh 

> lompat, ga akan ada lagi kesempatan spt ini dan seterusnya. tp 

apakah 

> harus menuju ke situ dulu.?? baru akan lompat??

>



Bisa rebound aja udah HAPPY



Engga USAH TEPAT TEPAT LAH, yang penting NGOMONG YANG JELAS dan

prediksi DISERTAI analisanya. Kurangi posting prediksi yang

tidak disertai DATA atau ANALISA. 



Kalo engga setuju, silahkan disanggah analisanya bukan orangnya...



TAPI jangan menyanggah kalo UDAH KEJADIAN, engga FAIR



> 

> note :

> menunngu saja di bunker bej, sambil nunggu elaine datang lagi.

> 

> 

> salam hangat

> 

> 

> artomoro9

> 

> 

> 

> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"  consultant@> wrote:

> >

> > One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ? 

> > 

> > http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlihsg. png

> > 

> > Will it stand ?

> > 

> > --

> > 

> > Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI

> > 

> > http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlbumi. png

> > 

> > 

> > Disclaimer ON

> >

>




  




 






















  
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[obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T

[conx_2003]

mohon dilihat saya dah kucek2 kok 8 T yah

padahal sesi satu 1.9T skarang ampir 8 T

itu 2T 2T masuk lari kemana uangnya


panic buying??

[obrolan-bandar] Re: URGENT value trax 8 T

[conx_2003]

maaf2 terlalu senang hingga lupa ngecek yg lain

2 T di crossing board
1.5T nya di negotiated board.

hmmm pertanda alam apakah ini


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "conx_2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> mohon dilihat saya dah kucek2 kok 8 T yah
> 
> padahal sesi satu 1.9T skarang ampir 8 T
> 
> itu 2T 2T masuk lari kemana uangnya
> 
> 
> panic buying??
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T

[er1ck]

APEX crossing ...cek APEX.TS , itu aja udh 2T tuh..

2008/9/10 conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   mohon dilihat saya dah kucek2 kok 8 T yah
>
> padahal sesi satu 1.9T skarang ampir 8 T
>
> itu 2T 2T masuk lari kemana uangnya
>
> panic buying??
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] INKP Super Liar

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

INKP lebih liar daripada BUMI.
Nih saham asik bener buat yang bisa meleng terus pelototin monitor

[obrolan-bandar] inkp tersebut.

[401]

inkp boleh juga nih. udah 3 hari ane maen dengan spread high low 20% 
dalam 3 hari ini. modalnya ya pake pibo doang.

ini candle biru beneran dan kentel banget birunya. mudah2 an gak kayak 
kemaren2, mengingat index hari ini juge biru. kalau masing kayak 
kemaren, ya mestinya lepas sore, beli pagi lagi.

401 pedagang kertas

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[Gabriel Balbo]

Minyak sekarang di 104,71  



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: "Prasetyo, Hani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Rabu, 10 September, 2008 14:04:10
Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?


Tenang pak Jos, mbak IKKE lagi mo berkunjung
ke Teluk Meksiko…
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
] On Behalf Of jos_martino
Sent: Wednesday, September 10,
2008 1:55 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One
Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
 
Yah ...yg mau EXIT silahkan...
Ga apa deh jadi LAST MAN STANDING!!

Sekarang saya BERDIRI dibelakang OPEC deh.
GO OPEC!!! GO..GO..!!!

he..he..he
rgs,
JM

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
"jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
Thomas Frederick 
>  wrote:
> >
> > dari gambarnya mbah... masih ada jalan ke 1680an ya mbah??
> >
> 
> Semua kemungkinan masih ADA , Analisa
technical kan 
BERANGKAT dari
> DATA yg sudah terjadi, jadi prediksi technical masih dibatasi
> WACANA masa LALU...
> 
> Prediksi IHSG sebenarnya tergantung apakah minyak akan jebol
> level $100. Saat ini $103,4 jadi SAAT INI SANGAT KRITIS
> 
> Kalo anda percaya minyak akan jebol $100, lebih baik anda EXIT.
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> > 
> > Thank You! 
> >  
> > ThomaS FredericK
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant 
wrote:
> > 
> > From: jsx_consultant 
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
> > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:10 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ? 
> > 
> > http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlihsg.
png
> > 
> > Will it stand ?
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
> > 
> > http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlbumi.
png
> > 
> > Disclaimer ON
> >
>
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[obrolan-bandar] lihat chart HARGA MINYAK

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Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[jsx_consultant]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bayu murti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> mo rebound aja dah susah bgt, berat banget keknya...emmm 

> 18xx kl oil 90-100
> 16xx kl oil 80an
> 13xx kl oil 60an

Keknya gt yg aq tangkep skenarionya... Tinggal yakin kejadian yg mana..



VISI yg bagus pak Bayu, JELAS dan memberikan gambaran kenapa
IHSG turun...

Jadi penurunan IHSG bukan karena ulah BANDAR , it is
FUNDAMENTAL DRIVEN...

[obrolan-bandar] UPDATE: DOW FUTURE ++++122.77

[Sudirdjo Widjaja]

kayanya BISI MAU TERBANG ... bentar lagi nihhh

Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T --> BUSET, DIDULUIN, HAHAHA

[Kucing Tua]

baru mau nulis thread... udah situ duluin... memang 8T !

candle ijo dengan volume tingg = . isi sendiri.

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 3:13 AM











mohon dilihat saya dah kucek2 kok 8 T yah



padahal sesi satu 1.9T skarang ampir 8 T



itu 2T 2T masuk lari kemana uangnya



panic buying??




  




 

















  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] posting terakhir

[PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG]

Jangan nyerah lah mr Chase...

 

 Mr TBUM yang saya pernah bilang panik saja masih keep on posting
heheheheheh

 

Kalau mau CL its just lil bit too late, unless u use margin , it's a
different matter.  

 

 

Bei semenjak gak bisa tembus 2400 dari kejatuhannya di 2150-2200, well
its truly a bad sign karena time table yg ada memperlihatkan keadaan
"mestakung seleruh dunia" yang merefer kearah yg worse. Setuju kata P
abdurahman the more it fall deeper well the faster the rebound. Tapi jgn
salah, itu hanya rebound sejenak

 

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent Chase
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:52 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] posting terakhir

 

sy nyerah kalah ama bandar bej

buat teman yg masi kuat,kita tanya aja P Oen dan Mbah

TA jci kalo ditarik garis uptrendline dr 2002 kita bakal ketemu di
1670-1700an

P Oen apa itu target realistis utk thn ini? kalo iya sy stop avg down
dulu deh dah babak belur 

thx buat semua yg nasehatin sy utk gak pake margin, sy liat di broker
banyak sekali force sell dan bunga margin mulai naik ke 19-20% krn
liquidity problem. 

  

 



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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T

[Maddy Vain]

Setahu saya crossing APEX 5,7T juga masih ada TS Bumi dll.
  Transaksi masih 2 T aja kok.. bisa jadi bull trap di chart kalo gak tahu 
ada TS.

er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
APEX crossing ...cek APEX.TS , itu aja udh 2T tuh..

  2008/9/10 conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mohon dilihat saya dah kucek2 kok 8 T yah

padahal sesi satu 1.9T skarang ampir 8 T

itu 2T 2T masuk lari kemana uangnya

panic buying??









  

   

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T --> BUSET, DIDULUIN, HAHAHA

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

2008/9/10 Kucing Tua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> baru mau nulis thread... udah situ duluin... memang 8T !
>
> candle ijo dengan volume tingg = . isi sendiri.

Candle Ijo + Volume tinggi = bullish ?

Kalao di IPOT, liatnya di TVAL ya?
Saat ini ketulis TVAL = 7945,7B
Belum nyampe 8T :P

Re: [obrolan-bandar] OPEC decides to curb overproduction

[sultan qatar]

Shohib ane kasih tahu.
Kok enak skali oil turun dari 147 ke 101, US$ tambah naik.
padahal defisit US naik ke 407 billion US$ tahun 2008, bandingkan
defisit 2007 yang cuma 161 billion US$.

Maka dibuatlah meeting opec itu agar oil tidak jatuh tajam.
Sptnya mereka mengaharapkan oil stabil meski naik. kalaupun turun ya
stabil bukan 2 bulan turun 30% seperti kemarin. Semua kacau.

kalau mereka sekarang ini membatasi produksi mestinya oil bakal naik.

Tentang komoditas yang tergantung dengan oil adlah wajar kalau ikut turun.
Tetapi yang terpenting investasi terbaik di perusahaan yang fundamentalnya baik.
Meski krisis, tetapi tetap kuat. Seperti yang utangnya sedikit dll.
Jadi cari yang utangnya sedikit.

Hampir semua perusahaan komoditi baik rasio keuangannya.DER rata-rata cuma 2x.
PER rata-rata dibawah 10 atau sekitar 10.

tetapi kalau discreening perusahaan yang fundamentalnya bagus. jelas
perusahaan-perusahaan yang masuk kategori syariah. Seperti yang
dikelola reksadana syariah. Saat ini memang lagi amburadul kinerjanya
kaarena komoditas lagi turun dan mayoritas reksadana syariah di sektor
itu., tetapi itu hanya sementara karena kalau ada krisis, perusahaan
yang fundamentalnya baguslah tetap yang baik.

Sejarah komoditas bisa berulang kalau minyak naik. Apakah trader oil,
cpo, mining akan melakukaan short terus. Tidak .

Semoga bermanfaat

Syukron

2008/9/10, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ini kali makanya minya naik lagi $104 dari $101...
>
> On 9/10/08, Hendra Susanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>OPEC decides to curb overproduction
>> Tuesday September 9, 9:52 pm ET
>> OPEC oil ministers decide curb overproduction by more than 500,000 barrels
>> a day VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- OPEC oil ministers have decided to curb
>> overproduction by more than 500,000 barrels.
>>
>> The move is a compromise meant to avoid new turmoil in oil markets while
>> at
>> the same time reflecting OPEC attempts to prevent prices from falling too
>> far. Crude prices have dropped nearly 30 percent since spiking to nearly
>> $150 a barrel in July.
>>
>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>
>> 
>> An
>> OPEC statement issued after oil ministers ended their meeting early
>> Wednesday said the organization agreed to produce 28.8 million barrels a
>> day. OPEC President Chakib Khelil said that quota in effect meant that
>> member countries agreed to cut back 520,000 barrels a day in
>> overproduction.
>>
>> THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information.
>> AP's earlier story is below.
>>
>> VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- OPEC oil ministers have decided to curb
>> overproduction by more than 500,000 barrels.
>>
>> The move is a compromise meant to avoid new turmoil in oil markets while
>> at
>> the same time reflecting OPEC attempts to prevent prices from falling too
>> far. Crude prices have dropped nearly 30 percent since spiking to nearly
>> $150 a barrel in July.
>>
>> An OPEC statement issued after oil ministers ended their meeting early
>> Wednesday said the organization agreed to produce 28.8 million barrels a
>> day. OPEC President Chakib Khelil said that quota in effect meant that
>> member countries agreed to cut back 530,000 barrels a day in
>> overproduction.
>>
>> (This version CORRECTS overproduction curb to 520,000 barrels)
>>
>>
>>
>

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[bayu murti]

Makasih mbah , aq cuman ngambil pelajaran dari skenarionya p Oen dan EL...Cuman 
kok blom gamblang, aq gabungin ma psikologi minyak dapetnya itu...
yaah kaya rambu2 aja mbah, tinggal pilih yg mana...Btw sdh banyak saham murah 
selain komo ma mining, cuman blom murh bgt...Masih sabar kali aja 
dikasih..OyaJadi penurunan IHSG bukan karena ulah BANDAR , it is

FUNDAMENTAL DRIVEN...Intinya itu mbah.Salam newbie.
--- Pada Rab, 10/9/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
Dari: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 10 September, 2008, 7:23 AM










 







--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, bayu murti  

wrote:

>

> mo rebound aja dah susah bgt, berat banget keknya...emmm 



> 18xx kl oil 90-100

> 16xx kl oil 80an

> 13xx kl oil 60an



Keknya gt yg aq tangkep skenarionya. .. Tinggal yakin kejadian yg mana..







VISI yg bagus pak Bayu, JELAS dan memberikan gambaran kenapa

IHSG turun...



Jadi penurunan IHSG bukan karena ulah BANDAR , it is

FUNDAMENTAL DRIVEN...




  




 






















  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[pemainedan]

tadi sesudah istirahat, commodities diangkat dikit, lalu banking 
mulai dihajar. apa banking bakal jd leading indicator rupiah akan 
ambrol? jika banking ambrol jg, alamat ihsg turun lbh jauh, krn kaki 
ke-2 sudah dipatahkan juga.

we'll see about that.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "artomoro9"  
> wrote:
> >
> > sebenarnya saat ini adalah kesempatan yg baik. dan kalo ihsg sdh 
> > lompat, ga akan ada lagi kesempatan spt ini dan seterusnya. tp 
> apakah 
> > harus menuju ke situ dulu.?? baru akan lompat??
> >
> 
> Bisa rebound aja udah HAPPY
> 
> Engga USAH TEPAT TEPAT LAH, yang penting NGOMONG YANG JELAS dan
> prediksi DISERTAI analisanya. Kurangi posting prediksi yang
> tidak disertai DATA atau ANALISA. 
> 
> Kalo engga setuju, silahkan disanggah analisanya bukan orangnya...
> 
> TAPI jangan menyanggah kalo UDAH KEJADIAN, engga FAIR
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > 
> > note :
> > menunngu saja di bunker bej, sambil nunggu elaine datang lagi.
> > 
> > 
> > salam hangat
> > 
> > 
> > artomoro9
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  > consultant@> wrote:
> > >
> > > One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ? 
> > > 
> > > http://www.invest2000.net/pwlihsg.png
> > > 
> > > Will it stand ?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
> > > 
> > > http://www.invest2000.net/pwlbumi.png
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Disclaimer ON
> > >
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[Marina Utama]

REMEMBER, My posting about 6 months ago? Beware of the period after Chinese 
Olympics and the INDEX will go to my target 1800! At that time, many didn't 
believe me, some even dislike me, NOW It happens! And soon will achieve my 
target, welcome bear!

Regards,
MU

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:10 PM











One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ? 



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Will it stand ?



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Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[kangduren]

iseng2 kasih komen...
kalo gitu mestinya BEI puncaknya di bulan Juli 08 donk Mbah? hehehe
saya cuma coba optimisnya, tapi ga tlalu spekulatif, udah stop buy,
sisa cash masih ada buat jaga2

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bayu murti  
> wrote:
> >
> > mo rebound aja dah susah bgt, berat banget keknya...emmm 
> 
> > 18xx kl oil 90-100
> > 16xx kl oil 80an
> > 13xx kl oil 60an
> 
> Keknya gt yg aq tangkep skenarionya... Tinggal yakin kejadian yg mana..
> 
> 
> 
> VISI yg bagus pak Bayu, JELAS dan memberikan gambaran kenapa
> IHSG turun...
> 
> Jadi penurunan IHSG bukan karena ulah BANDAR , it is
> FUNDAMENTAL DRIVEN...
>

[obrolan-bandar] Fw: (BN) Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back

[danny . eugene]

--Original Message--
From: DannyEugene
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReplyTo: DannyEugene
Sent: Sep 10, 2008 14:35
Subject: Fw: (BN) Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back


--Original Message--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 10, 2008 14:20
Subject: Fw: (BN) Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back



>
> Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back Shares
> 2008-09-10 06:27:04.350 GMT
>
>
> By Naila Firdausi
>  Sept. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesian state-controlled companies
> should buy back shares to take advantage of falling stock prices,
> a minister said.
>  ``If state companies can buy back, we encourage them to buy
> back their shares,'' State Enterprises Minister Sofyan Djalil said
> in an interview last night in Jakarta.
>  Buybacks may arrest the decline in the country's benchmark
> stock index. The Jakarta Composite Index has fallen 19 percent
> this quarter after commodity prices dropped and on concern that
> global credit-market losses will widen, prompting investors to
> sell assets in emerging markets. Four of Indonesia's 10 biggest
> companies by value are government-controlled.
>  Coal producer PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam has fallen 35
> percent this quarter, while nickel producer PT Aneka Tambang,
> which is 65 percent owned by the government, dropped 59 percent.
>  PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia, the most valuable company on the
> exchange and 51 percent owned by the government, has risen 2.1
> percent since June. The company on June 20 won shareholder
> approval to buy back 339.4 million shares, or 1.7 percent of its
> outstanding shares. It had bought back 53.87 million shares as of
> Aug. 19.
>  The Jakarta Composite fell 2.5 percent to 1,909.89, set for
> the lowest since Aug. 16, 2007, as of 12 p.m. local time. The
> measure dropped 3.9 percent yesterday.
>
> For Related News:
> Stories on Telkom: TLKM IJ  CN BN 
> Stories on Indonesia's stock market: TNI INDO STK BN 
>
> --Editors: John Chacko, Nabeel Mohideen.
>
> To contact the reporter on this story:
> Naila Firdausi in Jakarta at +62-21-3435-3024 or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To contact the editor responsible for this story:
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Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[conx_2003]

maksudnya fundamental driven apa yah mbah 

saya kurang begitu mengerti mohon diberi wenjangan 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bayu murti  
> wrote:
> >
> > mo rebound aja dah susah bgt, berat banget keknya...emmm 
> 
> > 18xx kl oil 90-100
> > 16xx kl oil 80an
> > 13xx kl oil 60an
> 
> Keknya gt yg aq tangkep skenarionya... Tinggal yakin kejadian yg mana..
> 
> 
> 
> VISI yg bagus pak Bayu, JELAS dan memberikan gambaran kenapa
> IHSG turun...
> 
> Jadi penurunan IHSG bukan karena ulah BANDAR , it is
> FUNDAMENTAL DRIVEN...
>

AW: [obrolan-bandar] Re: URGENT value trax 8 T

[jopie santoso]

saham apa yg TS besar

--- conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Mi, 10.9.2008:

Von: conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: [obrolan-bandar] Re: URGENT value trax 8 T
An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Mittwoch, 10. September 2008, 9:16






maaf2 terlalu senang hingga lupa ngecek yg lain

2 T di crossing board
1.5T nya di negotiated board.

hmmm pertanda alam apakah ini

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "conx_2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> 
wrote:
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> mohon dilihat saya dah kucek2 kok 8 T yah
> 
> padahal sesi satu 1.9T skarang ampir 8 T
> 
> itu 2T 2T masuk lari kemana uangnya
> 
> 
> panic buying??
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[obrolan-bandar] Kayaknya BABEnya udah bereaksi nih :-)))

[Andy]

Bener ngak yah kalo BABEnya udah beraksi diBEI?
 

[obrolan-bandar] oil $104 DOW fut +99 ??

[bangsur]

[obrolan-bandar] harga skrg udh kemurahan?

[er1ck]

beluum tengtuu..yg sudah murah dan di obral habis  bisa lebih murah lagi
saat super bear spt bgini, sama jg saat super bull taun kemaren yg saham udh
mahal bisa jadi lebih mahal, jadi yang kudu  di ingat adalah harga saham
sekarang naik atau turun trend-nya :-)

[obrolan-bandar] HELP DEWA! ada yg tau apa gerangan yg terjadi dengan DEWA?

[ahau doank]

kemaren dihajar -18%!
hari ini dihajar lagi -20%!
 
gile!!! ada berita apa ini??
hikss.. nyangkut di DEWA nich...
gimana donk?
 
helpp helppp SOS!
 
 


  
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[obrolan-bandar] INKP terbang?

[Bettina Tan]

I remember the old times when play with paper baloon. I made the balon from
paper and burned it to fly. Then after the flame is over, it will burst.
Will it happen also to INKP? who knows.. only God knows :-)

[obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[freez z]

saatnya hajar kanan bagi spekulatif trader yang punya nyali. kalau ga
punya nyali tunggu konfirmasih lagi sampai terbentuk three river
morning doji star



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[obrolan-bandar] Fwd

[Lindt]

  
 
  
  
 
Addressing bear market rumors 
 
The last three days turned out to be unexpectedly weak days for Indo stock 
market, relative to the region. Bumi Resources (-15%) and Bakrie group stocks 
(BNBR -12%, ELTY -20%, ENRG -11%, UNSP -13%, BTEL -5%), widely owned by retail 
investors, were significant underperformers that led the index down (-6%). The 
other group that performed badly were plantations (AALI -15%) and metals (ANTM 
-16%). 
Bear market rumors have circulated as always. We identify some of them below 
and see if there are any truth. 
 
  
1)  Big redemptions at domestic equity funds 
  
My take: not accurate. Aggregate fund management industry saw a net outflow of 
Rp16bn on 4 Sep, net inflow of Rp32bn on 5 Sep, net outflow of Rp216bn on 8 
Sep. These numbers represent <0.5% of total AUM of Rp89,181bn. 
  
Biggest domestic manager Schroders Indonesia saw a net outflow of Rp3bn on 4 
Sep, net inflow of Rp11bn on 5 Sep, net inflow of Rp7bn on 8 Sep. These numbers 
represent <0.1% of total AUM all equity funds.  
  
Second biggest domestic manager Fortis saw a net outflow of Rp4bn on 4 Sep, net 
inflow of Rp9bn on 5 Sep, net inflow of Rp9bn on 8 Sep. These numbers represent 
<0.1% of total AUM all equity funds.  
  
2)  Refinancing risk at Bakrie group companies 
  
My take: not accurate. A foreign broker published a report highlighting 
refinancing risk at Bakrie Brothers, given US$1.1bn out of its US$1.6bn total 
debt (parent co level) will come due in April 2009. I would highlight the 
US$1.1bn loan from Odickson Finance is essentially a shareholders loan from the 
Bakrie family, came about when the family injected stakes in Bumi, Enrg, and 
Elty into BNBR. Unless the family calls the US$1.1bn (not likely to bankrupt 
its own company, I would have thought), BNBR should be fine. 
  
3)  Forced selling of Bumi shares from repo market 
  
My take: some truth to this, possibly. There is an active repo market out there 
for Bumi shares, first created by the Bakrie family itself. A high net worth 
individual (not necessarily Bakrie family or BNBR) owning US$10mn worth of Bumi 
shares can probably borrow US$7mn by pledging the shares. Bumi is off by almost 
30% in the last seven days, 50% since end-June. There will be temptations for 
the borrower to limit his loss at 30% by walking away, leaving the lender 
panickly selling Bumi shares (the collateral) to protect his capital. BNBR 
recently borrow US$300mn from JPMorgan and ICICI bank pledging 1,278 million 
Bumi shares. Back in mid-July when the loan was signed, the shares are worth 
US$980mn. As of 9 Sep, the shares are worth US$542mn. Still way above loan 
value, but in case the conservative banker wants more collateral, Bakrie family 
can theoretically provide more Bumi shares as they are sitting on 3.7bn shares 
collateral also (for the Odickson loan).  
  
5)  Concerning build-up of coal inventory in China 
  
My take: not a cause for concern. Jim Lennon said in MacQ morning meeting that 
in the run-up to the Olympics, Chinese coal inventory was running very low at 
3-4 days. There had been a huge effort by Chinese government to ensure smooth 
operations, such that inventory level increased to 15 days. In his view, the 15 
days level is very normal and not a cause for concern. His views thermal coal 
as most defensive resources compared to coaking coal, steel, and metals. 
  
6)  What-to-do 
  
My take: ACCUMULATE. MacQ Indo stock universe now trades on 7.6x and 6.2x P/E 
for 2008 and 2009 (heavily geared towards coal stocks with aggressive coal px 
assumption). Consumer confidence hit another high in August. Stocks offering 
attractive entry point in my view are PT Telkom, Bumi Res, BCA, BRI, Ramayana, 
ITMG, Medco, and Bakrieland. 
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[Febry Hariyannugraha]

Masuk mana mas ?
Pusiiinng milihnya 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[Januar]

masuk INDF ajah deh mas nemenin saya. Lagian mas dah liat kan lap 
keuangannya kemaren,.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Febry Hariyannugraha 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM



  Masuk mana mas ?
  Pusiiinng milihnya 


   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[Bettina Tan]

Masuk neraka kali.. Melihat pasar yang seperti ini saya melihat peluang
besar ke 1600 setelah minor rebound di 1800.. Mau?

On 9/10/08, Febry Hariyannugraha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Masuk mana mas ?
> Pusiiinng milihnya 
>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] FOrced SELL today for margin call ???

[Kidod25]

any comments??

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kayaknya BABEnya udah bereaksi nih :-)))

[didit kristo]

Bentar lagi TINS salaman ama ANTM...

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Bener ngak yah kalo BABEnya udah beraksi diBEI?
>
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Jangan main margin...

[Bettina Tan]

Bandel bener sih.. Kena lagi kena lagi kan..

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[er1ck]

pasukan brani mati...hehueheh...

2008/9/10 Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Masuk neraka kali.. Melihat pasar yang seperti ini saya melihat peluang
> besar ke 1600 setelah minor rebound di 1800.. Mau?
>
>
> On 9/10/08, Febry Hariyannugraha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Masuk mana mas ?
>> Pusiiinng milihnya 
>>
>>
>>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Kalau Gak Ada Ribon, Gw Ngambek Lho =))

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

If no rebound, I'll quit stock market FOR GOOD !!
Mending macul, jelas hasilnya

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI: insider info

[Adam Rajsha]

FYI:
info dari dalam orang BUMI.

saat ini BUMI sedang merencakan buyback saham besar2an pada range harga 3300
atau 3500, untuk mendongkrak kembali harga sahamnya.

sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (2300an atau 2500an)

salam,
AR

[obrolan-bandar] Re: SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[Vic]

tampungin aja satu2. gak perlu hajar kanan full force 100%, bertahap
aja. ember masih banyak hehehe.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> saatnya hajar kanan bagi spekulatif trader yang punya nyali. kalau ga
> punya nyali tunggu konfirmasih lagi sampai terbentuk three river
> morning doji star
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kalau Gak Ada Ribon, Gw Ngambek Lho =))

[Vic]

maksudnya macul batubara pake excavator ya pak, alias jadi pengusaha
batubara hehehe. sorry j/k. emang sih ini udah jadi structural damage.
gak tahu apa ritel masih mau main gak saat nantinya akhirnya rebound.
yg susah kan bandar juga.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If no rebound, I'll quit stock market FOR GOOD !!
> Mending macul, jelas hasilnya
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: to pak Oen : lowest den bEi

[budi zhu]

Dear Master Oentoeng,

Tampaknya hari ini IHSG blm menunjukkan perlawanan dr BULL.
Hari ini sepertinya DEN BEI seiya sekata dengan master Oentoeng.

Kalau emang benar DEN BEI bs ke 13xx atau bahkan 12xx:
- apakah nanti BEI msh rame, msh ada yg berani trading di BEI?
- bagaimana dengan tahun 2009?

Best Regards


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bandar Junior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Pak Oen, kalau menurut hitung2an dan informasi dari intelijen lapangan
> yang saya kumpulkan, kayak2nya losest den bEi tahun ini akan menuju angka
> keramat 13xx.
> >
> > moga2 saja saya salah, maklum, baru coba2 jadi bandar
> >
> > apakah diamini, pak Oen?
> >
> > kalau pak Oen jadi the last man standing, saya cuman berharap jadi the
> second last man standing aja deh, biar pak Oen ada temen, hehehehe
> >
>
> Mungkin saja level tersebut  akan tercapai, emang sumbernya bisa dipercaya
> nggak?
> Hehehe...
> Perkiraan saya akan kejadian sambil nyanyi salah satu lagu kesayangan saya
> ini;
>
> *November Rain*
>
> *When I look into your eyes
> I can see a love restrained
> But darlin' when I hold you
> Don't you know I feel the same*
>
> *'Cause nothin' lasts forever
> And we both know hearts can change
> And it's hard to hold a candle
> In the cold November rain*
>
> *We've been through this auch a long long time
> Just tryin' to kill the pain*
>
> *But lovers always come and lovers always go
> An no one's really sure who's lettin' go today
> Walking away*
>
> *If we could take the time
> to lay it on the line
> I could rest my head
> Just knowin' that you were mine
> All mine
> So if you want to love me
> then darlin' don't refrain
> Or I'll just end up walkin'
> In the cold November rain*
>
> *Do you need some time...on your own
> Do you need some time...all alone
> Everybody needs some time...
> on their own
> Don't you know you need some time...all alone*
>
> *I know it's hard to keep an open heart
> When even friends seem out to harm you
> But if you could heal a broken heart
> Wouldn't time be out to charm you*
>
> *Sometimes I need some time...on my
> own
> Sometimes I need some time...all alone
> Everybody needs some time...
> on their own
> Don't you know you need some time...all alone*
>
> *And when your fears subside
> And shadows still remain
> I know that you can love me
> When there's no one left to blame
> So never mind the darkness
> We still can find a way
> 'Cause nothin' lasts forever
> Even cold November rain*
>
> *Don't ya think that you need somebody
> Don't ya think that you need someone
> Everybody needs somebody
> You're not the only one
> You're not the only one*
>
> --
> "November Rain" Copyright Guns N' Roses 1991
> From the album "Use Your Illusion I" Released September 17th 1991
>
> Note:  Posting ini hanya ingin menunjukkan kpd pihak tertentu yg telah
> meng"hack" property saya semalem. Emang loe kagak ada kerjaan lain?
>
> Oentoeng
>
> (Not) Fortune Teller
>
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] Bakalan ada lagi saham PE1x

[Bernie]

LTLS,JPRS,TMAS beberapa emiten yang punya PE2x, kalo market gak terkendali
lagi mungkin akan berada di PE1x dan PBV 0koma lagi kayak Q1 dulu. Emiten2
itu sampai Q2 punya growth yang bagus dengan ROE 40%<. Saya beli waktu PE3x
ternyata masih gak cukup murah,walah...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: [stockinvestorsforum] Kicked in the groin

[Andi Wahyudi]

Saya nunggu di bawah Pak DE seperti yg saya bilang 2 hari lalu...Buat cover he 
he..

Ayo kita copet "anu"nya EL

--- On Wed, 10/9/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: [stockinvestorsforum] Kicked in the groin
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 4:12 AM











Komentar trader US, sptnya mereka juga lagi nggosipin si Bozz.. 
hehe..

Regards,
DE

-- Forwarded message --
From: chaney-wt 

Date: 2008/9/10
Subject: [stockinvestorsforu m] Kicked in the groin
To: stockinvestorsforum @yahoogroups. com



















Anyone else feel like the hedge funds have kicked them in the groin?



No uptick rule;no enforcement of having to borrow in order to short. 

The hedge funds would have us believe they are simply closing out 

positions. Bull! This is a bear market with lower highs and lower lows, 

directly related to vicious hedge fund shorting in violation of well 

known federal law while the feds turn a blind eye. Bottom line:The 

hedge fund game plan is to place enough pain on individaul investors to 

force them to sell while prices are artificially low. Then, and only 

then, this market will rocket up. JMHO.




  





















  




 

















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Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T --> BUSET, DIDULUIN, HAHAHA

[Kucing Tua]

ternyata... gara-gara APEX doang .
tapi hr ini banyak yg TS-TSan
pindah barang, atau nego di tempat ya?
ato om Bakrie ke sekuritas2, terus nawarin jual lewat TS, spy dia ga kena fee 
broker?

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T --> BUSET, DIDULUIN, HAHAHA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 3:29 AM











2008/9/10 Kucing Tua :

> baru mau nulis thread... udah situ duluin... memang 8T !

>

> candle ijo dengan volume tingg = . isi sendiri.



Candle Ijo + Volume tinggi = bullish ?



Kalao di IPOT, liatnya di TVAL ya?

Saat ini ketulis TVAL = 7945,7B

Belum nyampe 8T :P


  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] Regular 2,3 T -- URGENT value trax 8 T --> BUSET, DIDULUIN, HAHAHA

[JOsh WaiKIKI]

Di IPOT transaksi Regular hanya 2,3 T
sisanya Nego dan TS
total 7,9 T

mohon dikoreksi kalo salah


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2008/9/10 Kucing Tua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > baru mau nulis thread... udah situ duluin... memang 8T !
> >
> > candle ijo dengan volume tingg = . isi sendiri.
> 
> Candle Ijo + Volume tinggi = bullish ?
> 
> Kalao di IPOT, liatnya di TVAL ya?
> Saat ini ketulis TVAL = 7945,7B
> Belum nyampe 8T :P
>

[obrolan-bandar] kenapa INKP terbang????

[deo rawendra]

ADA YANG TAHU KENAPA INKP TERBANG


  

[obrolan-bandar] apex bedol deso ya !??

[Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T --> BUSET, DIDULUIN, HAHAHA

[Saham Saham]

ada crossing apex +/-5T  : broker: cc, dx, pi  and dm



- Original Message 
From: abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:29:05 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] URGENT value trax 8 T --> BUSET, DIDULUIN, HAHAHA


2008/9/10 Kucing Tua :
> baru mau nulis thread... udah situ duluin... memang 8T !
>
> candle ijo dengan volume tingg = . isi sendiri.

Candle Ijo + Volume tinggi = bullish ?

Kalao di IPOT, liatnya di TVAL ya?
Saat ini ketulis TVAL = 7945,7B
Belum nyampe 8T :P
 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[anru dadaq]

Okay. When is your bull target?

2008/9/10 Marina Utama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> REMEMBER, My posting about 6 months ago? Beware of the period after
> Chinese Olympics and the INDEX will go to my target 1800! At that time, many
> didn't believe me, some even dislike me, NOW It happens! And soon will
> achieve my target, welcome bear!
>
> Regards,
> MU
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:10 PM
>
>   One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
>
> http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlihsg. png
>
> Will it stand ?
>
> --
>
> Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
>
> http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlbumi. png
>
> Disclaimer ON
>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] CPO +36 KOK saham nya masih memble aja ??

[John Rull]

Dear Obers,

Harga CPO sudah naik RM 36 , harga saham nya kok masih memble aja nih? 
lihat di : 
http://www.mdex.com.my/website/bm/market_information/prices/derivatives
.jsp

[obrolan-bandar] terlalu cepat menyimpulkan bullish, hidup merah.

[Kucing Tua]

masih jauh hari ini merah dan volume masih mendukung... besok masih harus 
merah. betul ngga?



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] lihat chart HARGA MINYAK

[sultan qatar]

puasa-puasa
kok ya pada tega melakukan short
Dan ini juga gara-gara pada hutang. harus force sell.

Ingat lho 2 bulan lalu

UNSP masih 2000 skrg 840
BNBR 540 skrg 225
SGRO 4000 skrg 1875
BUMI 8000 skrg 3600
dll
PTBA 17000 skrg 11000
dll.


Kalau tidak pada  short & hutang, mungkin tidak separah ini.

Oleh karena itu perlu penyadaran cara investasi yang benar, supaya
tidak ada problem parah seperti sekarang.

Diperlukan muhtasib, agar pasar normal.

Semoga bermanfaat

Syukron

2008/9/10, iwan jalal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Bagi yg gemar monitor harga minyak (kayaknya seh real time)  mungkin bisa di
> coba di sini:
>
>
> http://www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[idle mode]

please make it happen!!!

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Marina Utama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   REMEMBER, My posting about 6 months ago? Beware of the period after
> Chinese Olympics and the INDEX will go to my target 1800! At that time, many
> didn't believe me, some even dislike me, NOW It happens! And soon will
> achieve my target, welcome bear!
>
> Regards,
> MU
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:10 PM
>
>  One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
>
> http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlihsg. png
>
> Will it stand ?
>
> --
>
> Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
>
> http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlbumi. png
>
> Disclaimer ON
>
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[idle mode]

bocoran donk pak sahamnya apa:-p?

2008/9/10 freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   saatnya hajar kanan bagi spekulatif trader yang punya nyali. kalau ga
> punya nyali tunggu konfirmasih lagi sampai terbentuk three river morning
> doji star
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[toto]

asal sudah siap mental yo gpp to y...
mungkin yg masuk hari ini sudah siap to hold 3-4 years...
gpp juga kaleee

salam
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Bettina Tan" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Masuk neraka kali.. Melihat pasar yang seperti ini saya melihat 
peluang
> besar ke 1600 setelah minor rebound di 1800.. Mau?
> 
> On 9/10/08, Febry Hariyannugraha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Masuk mana mas ?
> > Pusiiinng milihnya 
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] P/E saat ini

[Anto]

Ada yang punya hitung2an P/E saat ini ? Terutama untuk saham yang likuid.

Terima kasih sebelumnya,
-anto

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI buyback 1,96 juta saham

[kusumawati]

JAKARTA (Bisnis.com): PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) membeli kembali
(buyback) saham sebanyak 1,961 lembar seharga Rp8,67 miliar sehingga
saham yang masih bisa dibeli kembali sebanyak 532,323 juta lembar.

Pada transaksi buy back 5 September 2008 harga per sahamnya Rp4.425 oleh
broker pelaksana PT Danatama makmur sebanyak 3.922 lot atau 0,94% dari
total volume pasar saham BUMI.

Direktur Bumi Resources Eddi J. Soebari dalam keterbukaan informasinya
kepada Bursa Efek Indonesia hari ini mengatakan dengan demikian
perseroan sudah membeli kembali saham sebanak 49.797.000 lembar saham
dari maksimal pembelian yang diizinkan 582.120.000 lembar saham atau
senilai Rp2,11 triliun jika dikalikan dengan harga BUMI hari ini.

Harga saham BUMI pada perdagangan siang ini pukul 14.35 WIB di Bursa
Efek Indonesia anjlok Rp325 menjadi Rp3.625 dengan volume transaksi
sebanyak 543.703 lembar saham senilai Rp999,58 miliar dan 4.890 kali
berpindah tangan.

oleh : Berliana Elizabeth
www.bisnis.com 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: insider info

[hesti]

Butuh 2 hari lagi turun 600 rupiah lagi Mas Adam...

Duh... bakal 1650 beneran neh...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Rajsha" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> FYI:
> info dari dalam orang BUMI.
> 
> saat ini BUMI sedang merencakan buyback saham besar2an pada range 
harga 3300
> atau 3500, untuk mendongkrak kembali harga sahamnya.
> 
> sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (2300an atau 2500an)
> 
> salam,
> AR
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: For My Lovely OB'ers Friend

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "conx_2003" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> numpang nanya sekalian pak hendrik
> 
> setelah dilihat2 memang setelah death cross - sampe 20%-30% 
> 
> tapi apakah ada chance begitu death cross 50 dan 200 saham tersebut
> rebound? atau boleh dikatakan kemarin baru mulai bertemu, hari ini
> turun berarti garis 50 makin turun menjauhi 200, sehingga confirm?
> 
> di harga brapa kita boleh confirm lari dari bumi? menunggu di let's
> say 3500 (+/- 30% dari harga 5000)
> 

NEXT : Biasanya -30% itu hany awalnya
kamudia rebound2 dikit barulah jatuh lagi

Sori baru ngejawab hari ini, tunggu momen yang tepat..

[obrolan-bandar] Target Index 1800

[Marina Utama]

Now it's achieved! Now BEI reached 1800, the time has come, welcome to my bear 
cave!

Regards,
MU



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI: insider info

[bandar kecil]

GILEEE PAK.
ITU BEDANYA / SELISIH 30%an. 
MANA KUTTT.
hehehehehehe
--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Adam Rajsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Adam Rajsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI: insider info
To: "obrolan-bandar" 
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:37 AM







FYI:
info dari dalam orang BUMI.
 
saat ini BUMI sedang merencakan buyback saham besar2an pada range harga 3300 
atau 3500, untuk mendongkrak kembali harga sahamnya.
 
sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (2300an atau 2500an)
 
salam,
AR
  














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[freez z]

perhatikan tekanan pembelian di lima menit sebelum penutupan

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:32 AM











pasukan brani mati...hehueheh. ..

2008/9/10 Bettina Tan 


















Masuk neraka kali.. Melihat pasar yang seperti ini saya melihat 
peluang besar ke 1600 setelah minor rebound di 1800.. Mau?


On 9/10/08, Febry Hariyannugraha  wrote:






Masuk mana mas ?
Pusiiinng milihnya 
 
 


  





















  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] Rapat FEd 16 Sep 08

[Kidod25]

kalau tetap atau malah turun, USD akan turun dulu ...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Target Index 1800

[Rei]

Then what will happen once 1800?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Marina Utama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now it's achieved! Now BEI reached 1800, the time has come, welcome to
> my bear cave!
>
> Regards,
> MU
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI: insider info

[Adam Rajsha]

iya nich, saya juga telat dapet infonya setelah makan siang tadi, padahal
paginya udah belanja.

kemaren malem, top management bumi ribut2 soal harga sahamnya, mereka akan
pinjem duit untuk buy back tsb.


On 9/10/08, bandar kecil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  GILEEE PAK.
> ITU BEDANYA / SELISIH 30%an.
> MANA KUTTT.
> hehehehehehe
> --- On *Wed, 9/10/08, Adam Rajsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Adam Rajsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI: insider info
> To: "obrolan-bandar" 
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:37 AM
>
>   FYI:
> info dari dalam orang BUMI.
>
> saat ini BUMI sedang merencakan buyback saham besar2an pada range harga
> 3300 atau 3500, untuk mendongkrak kembali harga sahamnya.
>
> sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (2300an atau 2500an)
>
> salam,
> AR
>
>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: insider info

[Adam Rajsha]

sorry ralat:

"sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (3300an atau 3500an). "
*bukan 2300 & 2500 seperti yg ditulis sebelumnya.*

semoga yg bener adalah 3500. kalo anjlok lagi yach tunggu lha di 3300an



On 9/10/08, Adam Rajsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> FYI:
> info dari dalam orang BUMI.
>
> saat ini BUMI sedang merencakan buyback saham besar2an pada range harga
> 3300 atau 3500, untuk mendongkrak kembali harga sahamnya.
>
> sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (2300an atau 2500an)
>
> salam,
> AR
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO +36 KOK saham nya masih memble aja ??

[hendrik_lwww]

Maybe ini bisa kasi penjelasan :

Joko Jr. Anaknya Joko Sr. Sedang jatuh cinta dengan Sinta (yang 
kulitnya tidak seputih santi). dan Cinta itu membutakan dia. Apapun 
kata teman2nya tentang kejelekan Sinta, dia abaikan dan kalau 
mendengar tentang kelebihan sinta, hatinya pun berbunga2 , apalagi 
saat sinta membawa makan siang ke kelas Joko Jr. 
 
Di saat yang besama2, Susi juga sedang naksir Joko Jr. Namun 
sebaliknya, Joko Jr, tidak suka kepasa Susi, walau susi telah berbuat 
yang terbaik bagi Joko Jr, dan teman2 Joko Jr pun sering megatakan 
tentang kebaikan hati Susi, Joko Jr tetap tidak suka dengan Susi...
 
Apa hubungan dengan saham?
 
Joko Adalah TRADER, 
Sinta adalah Saham Yang Uptrend
Susi adalah Saham yang downtrend
 
Saat sebuah saham Uptrend, sedikit saja sentimen positif mampu 
membuat saham tersebut terbang tinggi, dan sentimen negatif 
sepertinya tidak berpengaruh. sebaliknya saat saham downtrend, walau 
dikasi sentimen positif,harga ga naik2, sedikit saja sentimen 
negatifm turun jauh. KArena harga adalah persepsi, sahma sepeti Joko 
Jr memandag Susi dan Sinta (mengenai Joko Sr, ada di Buku I abah, 
he3.. PROMOSI)
 
Contoh :
Saat BUMI Uptrend, sedikit saja harga minyak naik, BUMI pun ikut 
naik, ada berita bagus dikit, BUMI TERBANG
Saat ini BUMI downtrend, Sempat minyak Naik dari 110 ke 121 (beberapa 
minggu lalu) tidak sanggup mengangkat harga BUMI.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO +36 KOK saham nya masih memble aja ??

[freez z]

wau keren teorinya. ini pelajaran yang berharga dari pak hendrik. 

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO +36 KOK saham nya masih memble aja ??
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:52 AM











Maybe ini bisa kasi penjelasan :



Joko Jr. Anaknya Joko Sr. Sedang jatuh cinta dengan Sinta (yang 

kulitnya tidak seputih santi). dan Cinta itu membutakan dia. Apapun 

kata teman2nya tentang kejelekan Sinta, dia abaikan dan kalau 

mendengar tentang kelebihan sinta, hatinya pun berbunga2 , apalagi 

saat sinta membawa makan siang ke kelas Joko Jr. 

 

Di saat yang besama2, Susi juga sedang naksir Joko Jr. Namun 

sebaliknya, Joko Jr, tidak suka kepasa Susi, walau susi telah berbuat 

yang terbaik bagi Joko Jr, dan teman2 Joko Jr pun sering megatakan 

tentang kebaikan hati Susi, Joko Jr tetap tidak suka dengan Susi...

 

Apa hubungan dengan saham?

 

Joko Adalah TRADER, 

Sinta adalah Saham Yang Uptrend

Susi adalah Saham yang downtrend

 

Saat sebuah saham Uptrend, sedikit saja sentimen positif mampu 

membuat saham tersebut terbang tinggi, dan sentimen negatif 

sepertinya tidak berpengaruh. sebaliknya saat saham downtrend, walau 

dikasi sentimen positif,harga ga naik2, sedikit saja sentimen 

negatifm turun jauh. KArena harga adalah persepsi, sahma sepeti Joko 

Jr memandag Susi dan Sinta (mengenai Joko Sr, ada di Buku I abah, 

he3.. PROMOSI)

 

Contoh :

Saat BUMI Uptrend, sedikit saja harga minyak naik, BUMI pun ikut 

naik, ada berita bagus dikit, BUMI TERBANG

Saat ini BUMI downtrend, Sempat minyak Naik dari 110 ke 121 (beberapa 

minggu lalu) tidak sanggup mengangkat harga BUMI.




  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: insider info

[qasuaribo]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Rajsha" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sorry ralat:
> 
> "sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (3300an atau 
3500an). "
> *bukan 2300 & 2500 seperti yg ditulis sebelumnya.*
> 
> semoga yg bener adalah 3500. kalo anjlok lagi yach tunggu lha di 
3300an
> 
> 
>

Hmm,... kayaknya sudah mulai OUT OF CONTROL, kalau tidak hati-hati 
jangan pikir semuanya dapat diatur, masih ada TUHAN diatas big bozz 
sekalipun, yang lebih menentukan. 
DJ Fut Ijo gelap, kalo besok den BEI masih merah, alamat LAPINDO 
jilid II luber di BEI!!!. 



 
> On 9/10/08, Adam Rajsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > FYI:
> > info dari dalam orang BUMI.
> >
> > saat ini BUMI sedang merencakan buyback saham besar2an pada 
range harga
> > 3300 atau 3500, untuk mendongkrak kembali harga sahamnya.
> >
> > sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (2300an atau 
2500an)
> >
> > salam,
> > AR
> >
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] BONUS LEBARAN

[Jack Cowok]

Lumayan kan ?

Sudah 2 hari di kasih bonus barang murah. 

Yang main margin sudah lari semua.


Salam
JACK




  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] posting terakhir

[Vincent Chase]

sy gak pk margin Pak tp kesel aja sekarang ngeliatin market tiap hari gap down 
mulu. kampret neh besok merah lagi kayaknya trus rebound kenceng.

PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   

  Jangan nyerah lah mr Chase…
   
   Mr TBUM yang saya pernah bilang panik saja masih keep on posting 
heheheheheh….
   
  Kalau mau CL its just lil bit too late, unless u use margin , it’s a 
different matter.  
   
   
  Bei semenjak gak bisa tembus 2400 dari kejatuhannya di 2150-2200, well its 
truly a bad sign karena time table yg ada memperlihatkan keadaan “mestakung 
seleruh dunia” yang merefer kearah yg worse. Setuju kata P abdurahman the more 
it fall deeper well the faster the rebound. Tapi jgn salah, itu hanya rebound 
sejenak….
   
   
  
-
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Vincent Chase
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:52 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] posting terakhir
  
   
sy nyerah kalah ama bandar bej
 
 buat teman yg masi kuat,kita tanya aja P Oen dan Mbah
 
 TA jci kalo ditarik garis uptrendline dr 2002 kita bakal ketemu di 1670-1700an
 
 P Oen apa itu target realistis utk thn ini? kalo iya sy stop avg down dulu deh 
dah babak belur 
 
 thx buat semua yg nasehatin sy utk gak pake margin, sy liat di broker banyak 
sekali force sell dan bunga margin mulai naik ke 19-20% krn liquidity problem. 

  

-
  
  ::BCA:: 
  
  
 


 
   

   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: insider info

[sylar_fang]

.. kl besok msh merah ane gak makan siomay selama setaun  udah 
gak ada duit lg buat bsk kl turun ... keep longgg ter ... 

:)




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "qasuaribo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Rajsha" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > sorry ralat:
> > 
> > "sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (3300an atau 
> 3500an). "
> > *bukan 2300 & 2500 seperti yg ditulis sebelumnya.*
> > 
> > semoga yg bener adalah 3500. kalo anjlok lagi yach tunggu lha di 
> 3300an
> > 
> > 
> >
> 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BONUS LEBARAN

[Halim Mintareja]

Mantap dan puas...

hari ini sudah 12.5% loaded..

besok kalau masih merah hmin mau mencapai 30% load

2008/9/10 Jack Cowok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> Lumayan kan ?
>
> Sudah 2 hari di kasih bonus barang murah.
>
> Yang main margin sudah lari semua.
>
>
> Salam
> JACK
>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO +36 KOK saham nya masih memble aja ??

[kangduren]

atur2 aja mas, jangan sampe nanti harga di atas teriak2 BUY harga di
bawah teriak2 SELL (Cutloss). Investor ada perhitungan sendiri, mereka
juga sadar beli ga harus harga segera naik.

salam
 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe ini bisa kasi penjelasan :
> 
> Joko Jr. Anaknya Joko Sr. Sedang jatuh cinta dengan Sinta (yang 
> kulitnya tidak seputih santi). dan Cinta itu membutakan dia. Apapun 
> kata teman2nya tentang kejelekan Sinta, dia abaikan dan kalau 
> mendengar tentang kelebihan sinta, hatinya pun berbunga2 , apalagi 
> saat sinta membawa makan siang ke kelas Joko Jr. 
>  
> Di saat yang besama2, Susi juga sedang naksir Joko Jr. Namun 
> sebaliknya, Joko Jr, tidak suka kepasa Susi, walau susi telah berbuat 
> yang terbaik bagi Joko Jr, dan teman2 Joko Jr pun sering megatakan 
> tentang kebaikan hati Susi, Joko Jr tetap tidak suka dengan Susi...
>  
> Apa hubungan dengan saham?
>  
> Joko Adalah TRADER, 
> Sinta adalah Saham Yang Uptrend
> Susi adalah Saham yang downtrend
>  
> Saat sebuah saham Uptrend, sedikit saja sentimen positif mampu 
> membuat saham tersebut terbang tinggi, dan sentimen negatif 
> sepertinya tidak berpengaruh. sebaliknya saat saham downtrend, walau 
> dikasi sentimen positif,harga ga naik2, sedikit saja sentimen 
> negatifm turun jauh. KArena harga adalah persepsi, sahma sepeti Joko 
> Jr memandag Susi dan Sinta (mengenai Joko Sr, ada di Buku I abah, 
> he3.. PROMOSI)
>  
> Contoh :
> Saat BUMI Uptrend, sedikit saja harga minyak naik, BUMI pun ikut 
> naik, ada berita bagus dikit, BUMI TERBANG
> Saat ini BUMI downtrend, Sempat minyak Naik dari 110 ke 121 (beberapa 
> minggu lalu) tidak sanggup mengangkat harga BUMI.
>

[obrolan-bandar] CPO PRICE.

[Rita Pardede]

Analyst sees Malaysian CPO at US$700 (Business Times (Malaysia))
Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:51:59 GMT
SINGAPORE:
The price of Malaysian crude palm oil is expected to hover around
US$700 (RM2,415) per tonne during the next six months, leading industry
analyst James Fry said yesterday.

Regards
Rita
IndonesianCompany.com



  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jangan main margin...

[kangduren]

yg pake marjin udah termasuk spekulatif, bagi yg punya barang banyak,
kalo liat beli pake marjin rejeki bisa guyur2.
Memang mestinya jangan pake marjin, regional dan lain2 lagi ga bisa
dipake patokan.

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Bettina Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Bandel bener sih.. Kena lagi kena lagi kan..
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: (BN) Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back

[kangduren]

memang bagusnya begitu, utk kemajuan emiten juga, buy back bisa buat
cari dana lagi buat ekspansi nanti.
Emiten2 di BEI masih prospektif, buktinya masih banyak yg IPO.

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> 
> --Original Message--
> From: DannyEugene
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ReplyTo: DannyEugene
> Sent: Sep 10, 2008 14:35
> Subject: Fw: (BN) Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back
> 
> 
> --Original Message--
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sep 10, 2008 14:20
> Subject: Fw: (BN) Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Indonesia Encourages State-Run Companies to Buy Back Shares
> > 2008-09-10 06:27:04.350 GMT
> >
> >
> > By Naila Firdausi
> >  Sept. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesian state-controlled companies
> > should buy back shares to take advantage of falling stock prices,
> > a minister said.
> >  ``If state companies can buy back, we encourage them to buy
> > back their shares,'' State Enterprises Minister Sofyan Djalil said
> > in an interview last night in Jakarta.
> >  Buybacks may arrest the decline in the country's benchmark
> > stock index. The Jakarta Composite Index has fallen 19 percent
> > this quarter after commodity prices dropped and on concern that
> > global credit-market losses will widen, prompting investors to
> > sell assets in emerging markets. Four of Indonesia's 10 biggest
> > companies by value are government-controlled.
> >  Coal producer PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam has fallen 35
> > percent this quarter, while nickel producer PT Aneka Tambang,
> > which is 65 percent owned by the government, dropped 59 percent.
> >  PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia, the most valuable company on the
> > exchange and 51 percent owned by the government, has risen 2.1
> > percent since June. The company on June 20 won shareholder
> > approval to buy back 339.4 million shares, or 1.7 percent of its
> > outstanding shares. It had bought back 53.87 million shares as of
> > Aug. 19.
> >  The Jakarta Composite fell 2.5 percent to 1,909.89, set for
> > the lowest since Aug. 16, 2007, as of 12 p.m. local time. The
> > measure dropped 3.9 percent yesterday.
> >
> > For Related News:
> > Stories on Telkom: TLKM IJ  CN BN 
> > Stories on Indonesia's stock market: TNI INDO STK BN 
> >
> > --Editors: John Chacko, Nabeel Mohideen.
> >
> > To contact the reporter on this story:
> > Naila Firdausi in Jakarta at +62-21-3435-3024 or
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > To contact the editor responsible for this story:
> > Teo Chian Wei at +65-6212-1541 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO +36 KOK saham nya masih memble aja ??

[pemainedan]

Berikut alasan2 utk para CPO stock bears:

1. utk AALI, wkt itu saya pernah hitung dg asumsi harga CPO rata2 
2H2008 2800RMB, cost yang sama per ton CPO, produksi sesuai target 
990kT CPO, maka jika PER 10x, harga AALI adlh sktr 16rb. sdg kl harga 
rata2nya lbh rendah? tentunya model ini akan menghasilkan TP yg lbh 
rendah.

2. dr segi TA, harga CPO kemarin tembus 2400, ini closing terendah dlm 
th 2008 ini. dr segi pattern, ini mirip triangle pattern: break up di 
2600 atau break down di 2400. yg terjadi adl breakdown, jd byk yg 
berkesimpulan harga CPO akan turun lbh jauh. 

3. trend penurunan minyak scr psikologis mempengaruhi pelaku pasar utk 
berekspektasi harga CPO akan turun lbh byk (faktor yg menambah ke 
faktor no. 2), yg tentunya berujung ke penurunan profit CPO companies.

Apakah ekstrapolasi harga CPO tsb make sense? Itu tergantung point of 
view para investor/tradersnya, jika anda memprediksi akan rebound & 
balik ke 3000RMB lagi, ya skr bagus sekali utk beli. Jika prediksi 
akan terus turun, mgkn sampe 1800RMB, ya tunggu saja sampe harga AALI 
< 10k.

Perlu diingat, men-trade saham CPO dg mengacu ke fluktuasi harga CPO 
harian adl sgt tdk bijak. harga CPO ini sgt volatile. Outlook rata2 
harga CPO-nya lah yg lebih penting, drpd fluktuasi hariannya. 
Mengikuti fluktuasi harian tanpa memperhatikan outlook rata2nya akan 
membuat anda diombang-ambing volatilitasnya yg tinggi. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "John Rull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Dear Obers,
> 
> Harga CPO sudah naik RM 36 , harga saham nya kok masih memble aja 
nih? 
> lihat di : 
> 
http://www.mdex.com.my/website/bm/market_information/prices/derivatives
> .jsp
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] posting terakhir

[jko``]

Tenang aja pak VC, kan ga pake margin, you are not alone, saya rasa 90%
OBers udah pd nyangkut skrg (jujur aja include me), tapi kalau ini postigan
terakhir anda, yah berarti you will really be alone there..

Mari hibernasi saja sambil curi2 ilmu disini, toh ilmu/trick/jebakan/etc ini
bakalan kepake sampe tua..
Untill next time hehe..


-- 
An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken,
nevertheless, an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100
shurikens...

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: insider info

[Vic]

ganti makan batagor atau dimsum hehehe.
mudah2an bisa jadi ketupat lebaran.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "sylar_fang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> .. kl besok msh merah ane gak makan siomay selama setaun  udah 
> gak ada duit lg buat bsk kl turun ... keep longgg ter ... 
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "qasuaribo"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Rajsha" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > sorry ralat:
> > > 
> > > "sorry infonya agak distorsi pada dua harga tsb (3300an atau 
> > 3500an). "
> > > *bukan 2300 & 2500 seperti yg ditulis sebelumnya.*
> > > 
> > > semoga yg bener adalah 3500. kalo anjlok lagi yach tunggu lha di 
> > 3300an
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BONUS LEBARAN

[Jack Cowok]

Wah,

Hebat pak, bisa tahan sekian lama pegang cash. Tanpa transaksi ?

Goodluck untuk yg baru masuk hari ini.



Salam
JACK


--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BONUS LEBARAN
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 4:28 AM











Mantap dan puas...

hari ini sudah 12.5% loaded.. 

besok kalau masih merah hmin mau mencapai 30% load

2008/9/10 Jack Cowok <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>













Lumayan kan ?

Sudah 2 hari di kasih bonus barang murah. 

Yang main margin sudah lari semua.


Salam
JACK




  





  




 

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] posting terakhir

[Vincent Chase]

yah bingung aja, org yg pinter buat report berlembar lembar aja bisa salah, TA 
juga ancur juga  beli cut beli cut beli cut lagi wedeee  

mo pake apa lagi? OA?? Oentoeng Analysis

pergerakan bumi yg tadinya dibuat ikutan  nymex, sekarang ngikutin hancurnya 
saham coal di US kayak James River.  



jko`` <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Tenang aja pak VC, kan ga pake margin, you are not alone, saya rasa 90% OBers 
udah pd nyangkut skrg (jujur aja include me), tapi kalau ini postigan terakhir 
anda, yah berarti you will really be alone there.. 
  
 Mari hibernasi saja sambil curi2 ilmu disini, toh ilmu/trick/jebakan/etc ini 
bakalan kepake sampe tua.. 
 Untill next time hehe..


-- 
An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken, nevertheless, 
an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100 shurikens... 
 
 
   

   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BONUS LEBARAN

[Halim Mintareja]

transaksi tektok aja...

tapi setelah bulan july.. posisi porto tidak pernah lebih dari 10%

hari ini aja mulai lewat

2008/9/10 Jack Cowok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Wah,
>
> Hebat pak, bisa tahan sekian lama pegang cash. Tanpa transaksi ?
>
> Goodluck untuk yg baru masuk hari ini.
>
>
>
> Salam
> JACK
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/10/08, Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BONUS LEBARAN
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 4:28 AM
>
>  Mantap dan puas...
>
> hari ini sudah 12.5% loaded..
>
> besok kalau masih merah hmin mau mencapai 30% load
>
> 2008/9/10 Jack Cowok <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>
>>
>> Lumayan kan ?
>>
>> Sudah 2 hari di kasih bonus barang murah.
>>
>> Yang main margin sudah lari semua.
>>
>>
>> Salam
>> JACK
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?

[vividtrader]

Saya masih ingat   bahkan saya kirim email ke anda tapi gak
direspon.

regards,
vivid newbie trader

2008/9/10 Marina Utama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   REMEMBER, My posting about 6 months ago? Beware of the period after
> Chinese Olympics and the INDEX will go to my target 1800! At that time, many
> didn't believe me, some even dislike me, NOW It happens! And soon will
> achieve my target, welcome bear!
>
> Regards,
> MU
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:10 PM
>
>  One Year LOW = 1863, last BUNKER ?
>
> http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlihsg. png
>
> Will it stand ?
>
> --
>
> Resist from Symmetry of GREEDY and FEAR for BUMI
>
> http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlbumi. png
>
> Disclaimer ON
>
>
>  
>



-- 
http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com

[obrolan-bandar] Welcome to the Stone Age

[paramanandana]

El, kalo kayak gini, bukan cuma agri dan energy yg RIP, tapi semuanya.. So U 
should write: 'altogether' on the grave or Kuburan Masal, hehee.. 

U re right, Bumi sdh di 3600, tp td sempet touching 3500. Do you think lower 
range 2500 still applied for Bumi, or will it be lower?

 

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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:51:35 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To : Pak Oentoeng, is it enought 


*Lihat attachment. I think it's a really clear message.

Elaine**
*
2008/9/9 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_qq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Btw..suasana Stone Age itu menurut anda gimana?
>
> Elaine...
>
> Still waiting your description about Stone Age...
> Especially...before BUMI "catch" 3xxx (maybe) in this week!?
>
> > Siapa tahu beda dengan perkiraan saya.
> > Biar temen2 tahu dan bisa siapin mental mereka masing2.
> > Hehehe...
> >
> > Oentoeng
> >
> (Not) Fortune Teller
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] lagu bearish buat selingan orang2 stress

[conx_2003]

saya juga stress dah -35% lebih portonya haiyaa (unrealized loss)
hehehe so tenang2 aja asal ga pake margin

coba dinyanyiin pake nada januari, glenn fredly

Berat bebanku
mencut-loss antam
Separuh harta bendaku
Sirna…..
Bukan salahmu
Apa dayaku
Mungkin benar nasib yang baik
Tak berpihak
Pada inco

[ Refr. Chorus ]


Bumi-ku
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Melodi rintihan hati ini
Kisah kita berakhir di saat bearish
Selamat tinggal kisah sejatiku
Wow…… turunlah

Original song by Glenn Fredly, Januari

[obrolan-bandar] Re: posting terakhir

[alfanendya]

Kalau pakai dana dingin dan pilih fundamental yang solid rasanya nggak
perlu terlalu khawatir. Secara makro dan mikro (emiten) belum ada
perubahan fundamental yang signifikan. Yang terjadi adalah perubahan
sentimen dan proses akumulasi.

Coba lihat prinsip investasi dari salah satu legenda berikut:
"Sir John Templeton's investment philosophy was to look for what he
calls "the point of maximum pessimism" and accommodate anxious,
panicky sellers by buying their stocks. At the other end of the
market, he aided excited and acquisitive buyers by selling them the
stocks they craved. "Buy low and sell high" is not an unusual theory,
but Templeton was unusually successful with it. The Templeton Growth
Fund, which he started in 1954, had an average annual return of 14.3
percent as of February 1999. An investor named Leroy Paslay put
$65,500 into the fund at its inception. By 1996, Paslay's shares were
worth $37 million."
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/95819

Kalau menurut Hyman Minsky, kemungkinan saat ini adalah tahap ke tujuh
atau terakhir dari siklus finansial, yaitu:
"Stage seven - Revulsion
Sometimes, panic of the insiders infects the outsiders. Other times,
it is the end of cheap credit or some unanticipated piece of news. But
whatever may be, euphoria is replaced with revulsion. The building is
on fire and everyone starts to run for the door. Outsiders start to
sell, but there are no buyers. Panic sets in; prices start to tumble
downwards, credit dries up, and losses start to accumulate."
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/73721

Just some 2 cents.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sy gak pk margin Pak tp kesel aja sekarang ngeliatin market tiap
hari gap down mulu. kampret neh besok merah lagi kayaknya trus
rebound kenceng.
> 
> PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
>   Jangan nyerah lah mr Chase…
>
>Mr TBUM yang saya pernah bilang panik saja masih keep on posting
heheheheheh….
>
>   Kalau mau CL its just lil bit too late, unless u use margin , it's
a different matter.  
>
>
>   Bei semenjak gak bisa tembus 2400 dari kejatuhannya di 2150-2200,
well its truly a bad sign karena time table yg ada memperlihatkan
keadaan "mestakung seleruh dunia" yang merefer kearah yg worse. Setuju
kata P abdurahman the more it fall deeper well the faster the rebound.
Tapi jgn salah, itu hanya rebound sejenak….
>
>
>   
> -
>   
>   From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent Chase
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:52 PM
>  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] posting terakhir
>   
>
> sy nyerah kalah ama bandar bej
>  
>  buat teman yg masi kuat,kita tanya aja P Oen dan Mbah
>  
>  TA jci kalo ditarik garis uptrendline dr 2002 kita bakal ketemu di
1670-1700an
>  
>  P Oen apa itu target realistis utk thn ini? kalo iya sy stop avg
down dulu deh dah babak belur 
>  
>  thx buat semua yg nasehatin sy utk gak pake margin, sy liat di
broker banyak sekali force sell dan bunga margin mulai naik ke 19-20%
krn liquidity problem. 
> 
>   
> 
> -
>   
>   ::BCA::
>

[obrolan-bandar] MARGIN+BROKER vs INVESTOR

[Jack Cowok]

Karena masih banyak yang main margin, maka saya mau beritahu
apa yg saya tahu kepada anda.

(sejak krisis US, saya sudah bilang Jangan main margin.)

Karena sejak kasus krisis US itu, banyak broker mendapat "permainan baru"
dengan melakukan shot selling.

Mereka akan mendapat keuntungan 2 kali.
1. Membeli kembali diharga murah
2. Mendapat uang dari bunga margin yg sangat tinggi

Saya gak bisa jelaskan lewat tulisan, mudah2an ini menjadi jelas.


Salam
JACK









  

[obrolan-bandar] suspend TRUB

[iwan jalal]

  ada yang punya bocoran gak ya, TRUB di suspend sampe kapan?



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM

[Setyo Budiantoro]

dalam 1 menit terakhir, transaksi mencapai lebih dari 209 M. indeks langsung 
naik 14 poin dlm 1 menit. hope it's a good news..:)

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:51 AM











perhatikan tekanan pembelian di lima menit sebelum penutupan

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
From: er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SAYA SUDAH 100% di SAHAM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 1:32 AM








pasukan brani mati...hehueheh. ..

2008/9/10 Bettina Tan 


















Masuk neraka kali.. Melihat pasar yang seperti ini saya melihat 
peluang besar ke 1600 setelah minor rebound di 1800.. Mau?