Re: [ob] I go bearish

[indriyanta s.]

Koreksi : Muhammadiyah sudah sejak beberapa bulan yang lalu sudah menetapkan 
tanggal 1 Ramadhan (permulaan puasa) jatuh tanggal 22 Agustus 2009 dan tanggal 
1 Syawal jatuh tanggal 20 September 2009.


--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Rei  wrote:

From: Rei 
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:29 PM





















Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?), 
tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya 
lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari. Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa!


2009/8/21 BEJ Watch 













 





  Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada 
yang bisa confirm ?

2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 















 





  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote:

>

> Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?

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- Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,

  bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.

- Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.



> -Original Message-

> From: "wintama" 

> 

> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 

> To: 

> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish

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> APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...

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>  

> 

> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]




> On Behalf Of Tasrul

> Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30

> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish

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> Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli

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> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

> From: tommy_ya...@...

> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +

> Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish

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> From: "wintama" 

> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700

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> I GO BEARISH..!!!

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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[Steven Tan]

Yang paling kaya dii OB tuh pak Rei sama engkong SB.

Turun beli turun lagi beli lagi lebih banyak, nggak dijual jual.
Mau bull mau bear, mau crash kek, anteng aja. Ruaaa biasa. Ga ada
abisnya tuh duit... bingung dah saya... he he



2009/8/21 

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> Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he
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> *From*: "s|nnerman"
> *Date*: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 +0800
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] I go bearish
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>
> Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari
> jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, "ente jual ane beli".
> Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli
> teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis
> niih..?!
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> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
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[ob] Re: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

[Jhon Veter]

 

Dear Elaine, agree with you, as we know Economy is a BIZARRE TEACHER.
Ordinary teacher always punish the naughty, lazy, stupid students and give
reward to the bright one. But Economy do with different way, Economy will
punish the bright one and give reward to the naughty, lazy, stupid one. 

 

Asia (specially China) is the bright one right now and US is the most
naughty, lazy one. US get the reward (money, help, sympathy  everywhere) and
China get the punish (Rule to slowdown). Really BIZARRE.

 

 

Regards

 

JV 

 

 


 
 Re: China
Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation 


Posted by: "Elaine Sui"
 elainesu...@gmail.com 


Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:58 pm (PDT) 




*We all know that China Mainland (along with Japan) is funding the US
recovery by buying their debts and shares, to keep them afloat because US is
the biggest consumers of China and Japan products.

But at the same time, the China govt is planning to cool down their own
economy from overheating, and to avoid oversupply, so it's pretty
dilemmatic.

I'd say it's limited, unless China is going to apply protectionism to US
imports. They (China) are piling up everything from the world, cash, energy,
natural resources, man powers, they are buying everything.

And they will either use it for their own good (domestic spending), or sell
back to everyone at pretty much higher price (unlikely though, I mean who's
gonna buy them?). After the fall of communism (soviet union) in 1991,
capitalism and globalization has inflated the economy, and burst 3 times in
1997 (Asia financial crisis), 2001 (dot com bubble) and 2008 (sub prime).

China is aware of this facts, and their govt really have to stop the bubble
at some point, or it will take the global economy down. Rather than taking
aggressive action such as protectionism, they must take more subtle
approach, such as limiting money supply.

I can't say much as it still in progress, but I believe they will find a way
out of this.

Elaine**
*

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Peter Alimin <
 milis...@live.com> wrote:

> Nice comment..
> One more question, how about the effect(to indonesia &asia) 'china tight
> policy' ?(rumour/news[?])
> Thanks.
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[ob] Re: HOTS ngadat?

[datasahamku]

RTI saya juga ngadat tuh pakhahaha..



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kayakdayak"  wrote:
>
> mulai 11:29 nggak ada transaksi.
> kenapa ya?
>

Re: [ob] I go bearish

[mitohobu lkastneynnu]

correction : Muhammadiyah sejak awal menetapkan awal ramadhan tanggal 22agustus





From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:29:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish

  
Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?), 
tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya 
lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari.  
Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa!



2009/8/21 BEJ Watch 

  
>Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ?
>
>
>2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 
>
>  
>>--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tommy_yap99@ ... wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
>>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
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>>
>>- Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
>>bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
>>- Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "wintama" 
>>> 
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 
>>
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>>> 
>>> 
>>> APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>>> com]
>>> On Behalf Of Tasrul
>>> Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
>>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>>> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> _ 
>>> 
>>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>>> From: tommy_yap99@ ... 
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
>>> Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
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>>> _ 
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>>> From: "wintama" 
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> I GO BEARISH..!!!
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[ob] Re: Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin

[ueno_kobayashi]

Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa..

utk rekan2 di OB yg menunaikan Ibadah Puasa...

Mohon maaf lahir dan Bathin..

MARHABAN YA RAMADHON"
"Sabda Nabi s.a.w.: Hendaklah kamu memuliakan bulan Rejab, nescaya Allah
muliakan kamu dengan seribu kemuliaan di hari kiamat."

Sabda Nabi s.a.w.:

Bulan Rejab Bulan Allah,

Bulan Sya'aban bulanku &

bulan Ramadhan bulan umatku.

Kemuliaan Rejab dengan malam ISRAK MIKRAJnya,

Sya'aban dengan malam NISFUnya

Ramadhan dengan LAILATUL-QADARnya.

Malam awal Rejab mustajab do'anya.


NB: MAAF BILA ADA KATA 2 ATAU KUTIPAN YG SALAH.

SALAM

KOBAYASHI.







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> Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah
> kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya
> beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi
> tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma ngomong doang dan
> gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he.
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[Lucky Trader]

Thanks atas ucapannya rekan2.
Belajar control diri dan nafsu yg liar nihkaya' bbrp hari ini, CL melulu
euy...gainnya sebagian diambil balik Bozz.
Mungkin harus step out, sambil khusuk buat Puasa

Bravo OB
-LT

2009/8/21 Rei 

>
>
> Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah
> kan?), tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari
> raya lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari.  Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan
> puasa!
>
>
>  2009/8/21 BEJ Watch 
>
>>
>>
>> Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa
>> confirm ?
>>
>>   2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>>> tommy_ya...@... wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
>>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>> >
>>>
>>> - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
>>> bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
>>> - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
>>>
>>>
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: "wintama" 
>>> >
>>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
>>>  > To: 
>>> >
>>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: 
>>> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto:
>>> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
>>> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
>>> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
>>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _
>>> >
>>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>>> > From: tommy_ya...@...
>>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
>>> > Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
>>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR
>>> >
>>> > _
>>>  >
>>> > From: "wintama"
>>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
>>> > To: 
>>> >
>>> > Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I GO BEARISH..!!!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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[ob] 33 Sekuritas Bakal Jadi Korban Amandemen UU Pasar Modal

[Handy Martinus]

any comment for this???

Jakarta - Rencana Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal &
Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam-LK) melakukan amandemen UU Pasar Modal
sepertinya akan membuat 33 sekuritas menjadi korban.

Dalam
draf kasar amandemen UU Pasar Modal, yang diperoleh detikFinance, Jumat
(21/8/2009) sekuritas tidak lagi boleh mengantongi izin sebagai manajer
investasi (MI) bersamaan dengan izin perantara perdagangan efek (PPE)
dan atau izin penjaminan emisi efek (PEE).

Dengan kata lain,
amandemen UU Pasar Modal akan mewajibkan sekuritas-sekuritas yang saat
ini memiliki izin MI melakukan pemisahan usaha, entah dengan membuat
anak usaha baru yang khusus bergerak sebagai MI atau bisa juga membuat
badan usaha baru yang kemudian dipayungi dengan suatu perusahaan induk.

Saat
ini, sekuritas yang tercatat di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) ada sebanyak
119 sekuritas atau anggota bursa (AB/broker). Semua sekuritas tersebut
memegang izin PPE.

Dari jumlah tersebut, sebanyak 44 sekuritas
memegang dua izin yakni PPE dan PEE. Kemudian sebanyak 9 sekuritas
memegang dua izin yaitu PPE dan MI. Terakhir, sebanyak 26 sekuritas
mengantongi izin PPE, PEE dan MI.

Jika dihitung, maka total
jumlah sekuritas di BEI yang mengantongi izin MI ada sebanyak 35
sekuritas. Namun dua sekuritas dalam status suspensi yaitu PT Sarijaya
Permana Sekuritas (kode broker:SP) dan PT Signature Capital Indonesia
(kode broker:FA).

Dengan demikian, jumlah sekuritas di BEI yang
dalam status aktif dan memiliki izin MI ada sebanyak 33 sekuritas.
Sekuritas-sekuritas inilah yang harus melakukan konsolidasi ulang jika
amandemen UU Pasar Modal akhirnya memperoleh persetujuan DPR RI.

Berikut daftar 33 sekuritas aktif yang mengantongi izin MI:


PT Bali Securities (PO), PPE dan MI.PT Dhanawibawa Artha Cemerlang (TX), PPE 
dan MI.PT Ekokapital Sekuritas (ES), PPE dan MI.PT Kresna Graha Securindo (KS), 
PPE dan MI.PT Paramitra Alfa Sekuritas (PS), PPE dan MI.PT Finan Corpindo Nusa 
(AY), PPE dan MI.PT Transpacific Securindo (TP), PPE dan MI.PT Valbury Asia 
Securities (CP), PPE dan MI.PT Am Capital Indonesia (FS), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT 
Asia Kapitalindo Securities (KC), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Asjaya Indosurya 
Securities (IP), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT BNI Securities (NI), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT 
Brent Securities (HK), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT CIMB Securities Indonesia (YU), PPE, 
PEE dan MI.PT Danatama Makmur (II), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Dinamika Usaha Jaya 
(SQ), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Equity Securities Indonesia (BS), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT 
Evergreen Capital (EL), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Indo Premier Securities (PD), PPE, 
PEE dan MI.PT Makinta Securities (AH), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Masindo Artha 
Securities (DM), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Mega Capital
 Indonesia (CD), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Nikko Securities Indonesia (RB), PPE, PEE 
dan MI.PT NISP Sekuritas (RO), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Optima Kharya Capital 
Securities (CM), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Panca Global Securities (PG), PPE, PEE dan 
MI.PT Panin Sekuritas (GR), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Philip Securities Indonesia 
(KK), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Pratama Capital Indonesia (PK), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT 
Semesta Indovest (MG), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Sinarmas Sekuritas (DH), PPE, PEE dan 
MI.PT Tiga Pilar Sekuritas (DG), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Trimegah Securities (LG), 
PPE, PEE dan MI.
source: 
http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/08/21/080241/1186867/6/33-sekuritas-bakal-jadi-korban-amandemen-uu-pasar-modal





  

Re: [ob] CINA jebol tuh

[XXX]

1. Liquidity Squeeze and excess supply in China Stock Market
2. The End of "Cash for Clunkers" Program in US on monday next week
3. "Engineered" global economic growth
4. High unemployment, Low Demand, Deflation
5. Global Stock Market Rally >1 month without any meaningful healthy
correction
6. Liquidity Squeeze for Eid ul-Fitr Ramadhan

I just wonder...will the IDX still immune ?
A healthy big correction is needed to discount those events above.

2009/8/21 M Herman 

>
>
> tadi ada yg kirim artikel dari bloomberg (lewat ym ..sayang kehapus)
> katanya pemerintah cina akan membatasi pinjaman bank karena disinyalir
> banyak yg dipake main di pasar saham . Likuiditas akan mengkerut market
> china akan terhambat kenaikannya or mungkin terus turun.  ntar saya coba
> liat di bloomberg.com deh
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, kidod25 * wrote:
>
>
> From: kidod25 
> Subject: [ob] CINA jebol tuh
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:53 PM
>
>   http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s=01. SS&t=3m&l= on&z=m&q=
> l&p=m20,m50, m100,m200& a=m26-12- 9,fs,r14& 
> c=
>
> MA 100 udah jebol di cina
>
> IHSG sptnya akan nyusul 1-2 bulan ke depan.,
>
> http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s= 
> ^JKSE&t=6m&l=
> on&z=m&q= l&p=m100, m50,m20&a= m26-12-9, r14&c=
>
>
>  
>

Re: [ob] I go bearish

[Rei]

Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?),
tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya
lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari. Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa!


2009/8/21 BEJ Watch 

>
>
> Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm
> ?
>
> 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 
>
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
>> tommy_ya...@... wrote:
>> >
>> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> >
>>
>> - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
>> bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
>> - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: "wintama" 
>> >
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
>> > To: >
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > [mailto:
>> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
>> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
>> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>> >
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>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > From: tommy_ya...@...
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
>> > Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR
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>> > From: "wintama"
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
>> > To: >
>> > Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
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>> > I GO BEARISH..!!!
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[ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin

[Tasrul]

Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf  lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah
kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya
beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi
tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma  ngomong doang dan
gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he.

 

Maapin ye...

dan semoga tradingnya cuan terus

 

 

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Re: [ob] becareful ....

[stock . breeder]

In other words --> Chinese gov hv a great optimism on the recovery progress!!! 
:)..

   
-Original Message-
From: M Herman 

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:10:00 
To: 
Subject: [ob] becareful 




Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- China plans to tighten capital requirements for banks, 
threatening to curb the record lending that’s fueled a 60 percent rally in the 
nation’s stock market, three people familiar with the matter said. 

The China Banking Regulatory Commission sent a draft of rule changes to banks 
on Aug. 19 requiring them to deduct all existing holdings of subordinated and 
hybrid debt sold by other lenders from supplementary capital, said the people, 
who have seen the document. Banks have until Aug. 25 to give feedback, said the 
people, who declined to be identified as the matter is private. 

As a result, banks may need to rein in lending or sell shares to lift capital 
adequacy ratios to the 12 percent mandated by the regulator. Chinese stocks 
briefly entered a so- called bear market this week on concerns the government 
would stymie new loans that exceeded $1 trillion in the first half. A news 
department official at the regulator declined to comment by phone and didn’t 
immediately respond to a faxed inquiry. 

“This move will cut one of the most important funding sources for banks,” said 
Sheng Nan, an analyst at UOB Kayhian Investment Co. in Shanghai. Banks will 
“have to either raise more equity capital or slow down lending and other 
capital consuming businesses to stay afloat.” 

China’s banks have sold 236.7 billion yuan ($34.6 billion) of subordinated 
bonds so far this year, almost triple the amount issued during all of 2008. The 
banking regulator estimates about half of the subordinated bonds in circulation 
are cross-held among banks. 

Record Lending 

Those debt sales came as new loans rose to a record 7.37 trillion yuan in the 
first half. About 1.16 trillion yuan of loans were invested in stocks in the 
first five months of this year, China Business News reported on June 29, citing 
Wei Jianing, a deputy director at the Development and Research Center under the 
State Council, China’s cabinet. 

“I’m worried about a correction in a market that has been driven by cheap 
money,” Devan Kaloo, who oversees $11.5 billion as head of global emerging 
markets at Aberdeen Asset Management Ltd., said Aug. 19. 

China’s benchmark Shanghai Composite Index almost doubled during the first 
seven months of this year through Aug. 4, after falling 65 percent in 2008. 
Since reaching this year’s high on Aug. 4, it’s plummeted 15 percent. The index 
on Aug. 19 briefly fell 20 percent from this year’s high, the threshold for a 
bear market, before ending the day down 19.8 percent. The gauge rebounded 
yesterday, rising 4.5 percent. 

Credit Concerns 

The weighted average capital adequacy ratio of 205 commercial Chinese banks at 
the end of 2008 was 12 percent, up 3.7 percentage points from a year earlier, 
according to the industry’s annual report. The weighting was strongly affected 
by the nation’s five-largest banks, which account for 52 percent of assets in 
the industry. 

The banking regulator has indicated it’s concerned about excessive credit 
creation. Last month, the commission ordered lenders to raise reserves against 
non-performing loans, to ensure loans for fixed asset investments go to 
projects that support the real economy and announced plans to tighten rules on 
working capital loans. 

Banks are allowed to count subordinated bonds they sell as supplementary or 
lower-Tier 2 capital. In the event of bankruptcy, holders of subordinated notes 
receive payment only after other debt claims are paid in full. 

The regulator’s rule change requires banks to subtract all existing holdings of 
subordinate bonds issued by other lenders from their own subordinated bonds 
being counted as supplementary capital. 

Hybrid Bonds 

In addition, the new rules also limit the amount of subordinated or hybrid 
bonds banks can hold, the people said. A bank’s holding of subordinated and 
hybrid bonds issued by a single bank can’t exceed 15 percent of its core 
capital, the people said. Holdings of all subordinate and hybrid bonds issued 
by banks can’t exceed 20 percent of core capital. 

The regulator has called on small publicly traded banks to have a minimum 
capital adequacy ratio of 12 percent by year’s end, up from the current 10 
percent. The ratio, a measure of how much in losses a bank can absorb, is 
calculated by dividing capital by risk-weighted assets. A bank’s risk-weighted 
assets are comprised partly of loans. 

After deducting subordinated bonds issued by other banks, lenders must either 
raise core capital or reduce their loans to meet the capital adequacy ratio 
requirements. 

“It’ll be hard for commercial banks to sell subordinate bonds because much of 
the debt is sold to their counterparts,” said Xu Xiaoqing, a bond analyst at 
China International Capital Corp. in Beijing. 

Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

[Rei]

I do agree. Domestic driven economy will prevail at the end.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Elaine Sui  wrote:

>
>
> *The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful.
> I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10:
> *
>
>- *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand,
>tight credit.
>*
>- *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power.
>*
>- *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the
>destruction of capitalism.*
>- **
>- *H1N1: deadly decoy.*
>- *US - China trade war: it is happening.*
>
> *But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also
> have these:
> *
>
>- *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure,
>public transportation*
>- *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all
>shopping freaks! lolz[?]*
>
> *I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better
> than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the
> soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will
> affect the financial market. Give me some prediction..
>
> Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case.
> The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple
> effect will spread throughout the world.
>
> New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with
> the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials
> show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news'
> are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt
> restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At
> least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia.
>
> So I will say: Buy on US weakness.
>
> Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific
> stocks at this time.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
>> CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH
>> Reuters
>> | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET
>>
>> China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third
>> quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9
>> percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday.
>>
>> The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world
>> markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and
>> bank lending peters out.
>>
>> The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would
>> "normalize" in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending
>> would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop
>> of non-performing loans.
>>
>> New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August
>> after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities
>> Journal reported.
>>
>> In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to
>> its "proactive" fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance in
>> the second half of the year.
>>
>> "China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild
>> deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary
>> policy," the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency,
>> said.
>>
>> It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent
>> this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline
>> 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008.
>>
>> The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing
>> below potential, mainly due to weak exports.
>>
>> Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year
>> earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast.
>>
>> Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest
>> economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in
>> the third quarter, it said.
>>
>> Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including
>> over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors
>> with serious over-capacity.
>>
>> "It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and
>> upgrading," the SIC said.
>>
>> It said property investment could potentially replace government spending
>> as the next key driver of growth.
>> Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions.
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[tV.kun0]

Hehe..kirain pak Tasrul investor kae pak rei.. Klo turun, hajar teruss.. 



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To: Obrolan Bandar
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish


Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 
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Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish


Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari
jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, "ente jual ane beli".
Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli
teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis
niih..?!


On 8/21/09, Tasrul  wrote:
> Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>
>
>
> 
>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
> Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>
>
>
> Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
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>
> From: "wintama"
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>
>
>
>
>
> I GO BEARISH..!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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RE: [ob] CINA jebol tuh

[JsxTrader]

Jebol..?? Masak sih. 

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of M Herman
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 13:05
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] CINA jebol tuh

 







tadi ada yg kirim artikel dari bloomberg (lewat ym ..sayang kehapus) katanya
pemerintah cina akan membatasi pinjaman bank karena disinyalir banyak yg
dipake main di pasar saham . Likuiditas akan mengkerut market china akan
terhambat kenaikannya or mungkin terus turun.  ntar saya coba liat di
bloomberg.com deh 

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, kidod25  wrote:


From: kidod25 
Subject: [ob] CINA jebol tuh
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:53 PM

  

http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s=01. SS
 &t=3m&l= on&z=m&q= l&p=m20,m50, m100,m200&
a=m26-12- 9,fs,r14& c=

MA 100 udah jebol di cina

IHSG sptnya akan nyusul 1-2 bulan ke depan.,

http://finance.   yahoo.com/
q/ta?s=^JKSE&t=6m&l= on&z=m&q= l&p=m100, m50,m20&a= m26-12-9, r14&c=







<><>

Re: [ob] I go bearish

[karunq]

Konjungsi (Ijtimak) Awal Bulan terjadi pada : Kamis, 20 Agustus 2009
@ 17:04 WIB - 18:04 WITA - 19:04  WIT atau  10:04 UT
Sumber: google "ramadhan rukyatul hilal"

Jadi krn pada saat matahari terbenam di wilayah WIB tidak memungkinkan
penampakan hilal, maka bagi wilayah WIB, hari jumat belum mulai puasa.
Untuk wilayah yang terletak lebih di barat (middle east, europe, etc),
bisa saja hilal terlihat, shg hari jumat mereka sudah mulai puasa.

Regards,



2009/8/21 BEJ Watch :
>
>
> Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm
> ?
>
> 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote:
>> >
>> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> >
>>
>> - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
>> bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
>> - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: "wintama" 
>> >
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
>> > To: 
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
>> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
>> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _
>> >
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > From: tommy_ya...@...
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
>> > Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR
>> >
>> > _
>> >
>> > From: "wintama"
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
>> > To: 
>> > Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I GO BEARISH..!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _
>> >
>> > Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons.
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>> >
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>
>
> 

Re: [ob] I go bearish

[karunq]

Oh iya, mumpung ingat, saya mohon maaf lahir batin pada rekan2 semua,
dan selamat menyambut ramadhan bagi yang menunaikan ibadah2 ramadhan
:)

Regards,



2009/8/21 karunq :
> Konjungsi (Ijtimak) Awal Bulan terjadi pada : Kamis, 20 Agustus 2009
> @ 17:04 WIB - 18:04 WITA - 19:04  WIT atau  10:04 UT
> Sumber: google "ramadhan rukyatul hilal"
>
> Jadi krn pada saat matahari terbenam di wilayah WIB tidak memungkinkan
> penampakan hilal, maka bagi wilayah WIB, hari jumat belum mulai puasa.
> Untuk wilayah yang terletak lebih di barat (middle east, europe, etc),
> bisa saja hilal terlihat, shg hari jumat mereka sudah mulai puasa.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch :
>>
>>
>> Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm
>> ?
>>
>> 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
>>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>>> >
>>>
>>> - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
>>> bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
>>> - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
>>>
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: "wintama" 
>>> >
>>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
>>> > To: 
>>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>> > [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
>>> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
>>> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
>>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _
>>> >
>>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>> > From: tommy_ya...@...
>>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
>>> > Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
>>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR
>>> >
>>> > _
>>> >
>>> > From: "wintama"
>>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
>>> > To: 
>>> > Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I GO BEARISH..!!!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _
>>> >
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>

Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

[victor_sperandeo]

google news' search results on us deflation versus us inflation:

http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=US+deflation
result: Did you mean to search for: US inflation

http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=US+inflation
result: many

who owns google anyway, hehehe.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I
> predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10:
> *
> 
>- *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight
>credit.
>*
>- *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power.
>*
>- *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the
>destruction of capitalism.*
>- **
>- *H1N1: deadly decoy.*
>- *US - China trade war: it is happening.*
> 
> *But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also
> have these:
> *
> 
>- *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure,
>public transportation*
>- *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all
>shopping freaks! lolz[?]*
> 
> *I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better
> than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the
> soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will
> affect the financial market. Give me some prediction..
> 
> Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case.
> The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple
> effect will spread throughout the world.
> 
> New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the
> market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show
> recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are
> engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt
> restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At
> least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia.
> 
> So I will say: Buy on US weakness.
> 
> Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks
> at this time.
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
> > CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH
> > Reuters
> > | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET
> >
> > China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third
> > quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9
> > percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday.
> >
> > The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets
> > that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank
> > lending peters out.
> >
> > The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would
> > "normalize" in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending
> > would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop
> > of non-performing loans.
> >
> > New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August
> > after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities
> > Journal reported.
> >
> > In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to
> > its "proactive" fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance in
> > the second half of the year.
> >
> > "China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild
> > deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary
> > policy," the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency,
> > said.
> >
> > It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this
> > quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9
> > percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008.
> >
> > The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing
> > below potential, mainly due to weak exports.
> >
> > Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year
> > earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast.
> >
> > Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest
> > economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in
> > the third quarter, it said.
> >
> > Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including
> > over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors
> > with serious over-capacity.
> >
> > "It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and
> > upgrading," the SIC said.
> >
> > It said property investment could potentially replace government spending
> > as the next key driver of growth.
> > Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions.
> >
> > --
> > Party with Buddy! Bling out y

[ob] becareful ....

[M Herman]

Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- China plans to tighten capital requirements for banks, 
threatening to curb the record lending that’s fueled a 60 percent rally in the 
nation’s stock market, three people familiar with the matter said. 

The China Banking Regulatory Commission sent a draft of rule changes to banks 
on Aug. 19 requiring them to deduct all existing holdings of subordinated and 
hybrid debt sold by other lenders from supplementary capital, said the people, 
who have seen the document. Banks have until Aug. 25 to give feedback, said the 
people, who declined to be identified as the matter is private. 

As a result, banks may need to rein in lending or sell shares to lift capital 
adequacy ratios to the 12 percent mandated by the regulator. Chinese stocks 
briefly entered a so- called bear market this week on concerns the government 
would stymie new loans that exceeded $1 trillion in the first half. A news 
department official at the regulator declined to comment by phone and didn’t 
immediately respond to a faxed inquiry. 

“This move will cut one of the most important funding sources for banks,” said 
Sheng Nan, an analyst at UOB Kayhian Investment Co. in Shanghai. Banks will 
“have to either raise more equity capital or slow down lending and other 
capital consuming businesses to stay afloat.” 

China’s banks have sold 236.7 billion yuan ($34.6 billion) of subordinated 
bonds so far this year, almost triple the amount issued during all of 2008. The 
banking regulator estimates about half of the subordinated bonds in circulation 
are cross-held among banks. 

Record Lending 

Those debt sales came as new loans rose to a record 7.37 trillion yuan in the 
first half. About 1.16 trillion yuan of loans were invested in stocks in the 
first five months of this year, China Business News reported on June 29, citing 
Wei Jianing, a deputy director at the Development and Research Center under the 
State Council, China’s cabinet. 

“I’m worried about a correction in a market that has been driven by cheap 
money,” Devan Kaloo, who oversees $11.5 billion as head of global emerging 
markets at Aberdeen Asset Management Ltd., said Aug. 19. 

China’s benchmark Shanghai Composite Index almost doubled during the first 
seven months of this year through Aug. 4, after falling 65 percent in 2008. 
Since reaching this year’s high on Aug. 4, it’s plummeted 15 percent. The index 
on Aug. 19 briefly fell 20 percent from this year’s high, the threshold for a 
bear market, before ending the day down 19.8 percent. The gauge rebounded 
yesterday, rising 4.5 percent. 

Credit Concerns 

The weighted average capital adequacy ratio of 205 commercial Chinese banks at 
the end of 2008 was 12 percent, up 3.7 percentage points from a year earlier, 
according to the industry’s annual report. The weighting was strongly affected 
by the nation’s five-largest banks, which account for 52 percent of assets in 
the industry. 

The banking regulator has indicated it’s concerned about excessive credit 
creation. Last month, the commission ordered lenders to raise reserves against 
non-performing loans, to ensure loans for fixed asset investments go to 
projects that support the real economy and announced plans to tighten rules on 
working capital loans. 

Banks are allowed to count subordinated bonds they sell as supplementary or 
lower-Tier 2 capital. In the event of bankruptcy, holders of subordinated notes 
receive payment only after other debt claims are paid in full. 

The regulator’s rule change requires banks to subtract all existing holdings of 
subordinate bonds issued by other lenders from their own subordinated bonds 
being counted as supplementary capital. 

Hybrid Bonds 

In addition, the new rules also limit the amount of subordinated or hybrid 
bonds banks can hold, the people said. A bank’s holding of subordinated and 
hybrid bonds issued by a single bank can’t exceed 15 percent of its core 
capital, the people said. Holdings of all subordinate and hybrid bonds issued 
by banks can’t exceed 20 percent of core capital. 

The regulator has called on small publicly traded banks to have a minimum 
capital adequacy ratio of 12 percent by year’s end, up from the current 10 
percent. The ratio, a measure of how much in losses a bank can absorb, is 
calculated by dividing capital by risk-weighted assets. A bank’s risk-weighted 
assets are comprised partly of loans. 

After deducting subordinated bonds issued by other banks, lenders must either 
raise core capital or reduce their loans to meet the capital adequacy ratio 
requirements. 

“It’ll be hard for commercial banks to sell subordinate bonds because much of 
the debt is sold to their counterparts,” said Xu Xiaoqing, a bond analyst at 
China International Capital Corp. in Beijing. “This rule would tighten lending 
by commercial banks, especially small and medium sized banks that have 
relatively less capital.” 

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[Tasrul]

Skrg udah -45 per 1:13 PM ti ati

 



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Pak Tasrul, DOW - 63 jam 11.30.

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Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat?

[Tommy Jayamudita]

Jangan panik pak, hanya -11.609 point atau -0.5 % saja kok, mosok tegangnya 
sampai lupa hari.


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  Subject: Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat?


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Re: [ob] CINA jebol tuh

[M Herman]

tadi ada yg kirim artikel dari bloomberg (lewat ym ..sayang kehapus) katanya 
pemerintah cina akan membatasi pinjaman bank karena disinyalir banyak yg dipake 
main di pasar saham . Likuiditas akan mengkerut market china akan terhambat 
kenaikannya or mungkin terus turun.  ntar saya coba liat di bloomberg.com deh 

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, kidod25  wrote:


From: kidod25 
Subject: [ob] CINA jebol tuh
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:53 PM


  



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IHSG sptnya akan nyusul 1-2 bulan ke depan.,

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Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

[Elaine Sui]

*We all know that China Mainland (along with Japan) is funding the US
recovery by buying their debts and shares, to keep them afloat because US is
the biggest consumers of China and Japan products.

But at the same time, the China govt is planning to cool down their own
economy from overheating, and to avoid oversupply, so it's pretty
dilemmatic.

I'd say it's limited, unless China is going to apply protectionism to US
imports. They (China) are piling up everything from the world, cash, energy,
natural resources, man powers, they are buying everything.

And they will either use it for their own good (domestic spending), or sell
back to everyone at pretty much higher price (unlikely though, I mean who's
gonna buy them?). After the fall of communism (soviet union) in 1991,
capitalism and globalization has inflated the economy, and burst 3 times in
1997 (Asia financial crisis), 2001 (dot com bubble) and 2008 (sub prime).

China is aware of this facts, and their govt really have to stop the bubble
at some point, or it will take the global economy down. Rather than taking
aggressive action such as protectionism, they must take more subtle
approach, such as limiting money supply.

I can't say much as it still in progress, but I believe they will find a way
out of this.

Elaine**
*

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Peter Alimin  wrote:

> Nice comment..
> One more question, how about the effect(to indonesia &asia) 'china tight
> policy' ?(rumour/news[?])
> Thanks.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Elaine Sui 
>
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:12:57
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I
> predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10:
>
>
> * deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight
> credit.
>
> * unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power.
>
> * debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the
> destruction of capitalism.
> *
> * H1N1: deadly decoy.
> * US - China trade war: it is happening.
> But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also
> have these:
>
>
> * Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public
> transportation
> * Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all
> shopping freaks! lolz
> I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better
> than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the
> soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will
> affect the financial market. Give me some prediction..
>
> Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case.
> The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple
> effect will spread throughout the world.
>
> New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with
> the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials
> show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news'
> are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt
> restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At
> least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia.
>
> So I will say: Buy on US weakness.
>
> Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific
> stocks at this time.
>
> Elaine
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin  milis...@live.com> com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
>
> CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH
>
> Reuters
>  | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET
> China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third
> quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9
> percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday.
> The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets
> that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank
> lending peters out.
> The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would
> "normalize" in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending
> would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop
> of non-performing loans.
> New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August
> after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities
> Journal reported.
> In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to
> its "proactive" fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance in
> the second half of the year.
> "China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild
> deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary
> policy," the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency,
> said.
> It fo

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Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

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Nice comment..
One more question, how about the effect(to indonesia &asia) 'china tight 
policy' ?(rumour/news[?]) 
Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:12:57 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation


  
 
 
 
The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I 
predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10:


* deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit.
 
* unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power.

* debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction 
of capitalism.
* 
* H1N1: deadly decoy. 
* US - China trade war: it is happening.
But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have 
these:


* Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public 
transportation 
* Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping 
freaks! lolz
I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than 
expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet 
union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the 
financial market. Give me some prediction..
 
Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The 
world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect 
will spread throughout the world.

New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the 
market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show 
recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are 
engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt restructuring/write 
off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At least in the US, but 
could be very different with Indonesia. 
 
So I will say: Buy on US weakness.

Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks at 
this time.
 
Elaine


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China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH

Reuters 
 | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET 
China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter 
from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent pace, a 
government think-tank said on Friday. 
The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets 
that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank lending 
peters out. 
The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would "normalize" 
in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave 
many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop of 
non-performing loans. 
New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August 
after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities 
Journal reported. 
In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to its 
"proactive" fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance in the 
second half of the year. 
"China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild 
deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary policy," 
the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency, said. 
It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this 
quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9 
percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. 
The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing below 
potential, mainly due to weak exports. 
Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year 
earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. 
Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest 
economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in the 
third quarter, it said. 
Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including 
over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors with 
serious over-capacity. 
"It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and 
upgrading," the SIC said. 
It said property investment could potentially replace government spending as 
the next key driver of growth.  
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TAL :-)), hari jum-at jam isirahat mulai dari 11.30 pak , he3x...

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> kenapa ya?
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Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat?

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Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

[stock . breeder]

ELSE.. SHORT N COVER ON US WEAKNESS MISS EL ^^


-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:12:57 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation


*The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I
predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10:
*

   - *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight
   credit.
   *
   - *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power.
   *
   - *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the
   destruction of capitalism.*
   - **
   - *H1N1: deadly decoy.*
   - *US - China trade war: it is happening.*

*But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also
have these:
*

   - *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure,
   public transportation*
   - *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all
   shopping freaks! lolz[?]*

*I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better
than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the
soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will
affect the financial market. Give me some prediction..

Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case.
The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple
effect will spread throughout the world.

New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the
market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show
recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are
engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt
restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At
least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia.

So I will say: Buy on US weakness.

Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks
at this time.

Elaine**
*
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin  wrote:

>
>
> China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
> CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH
> Reuters
> | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET
>
> China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third
> quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9
> percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday.
>
> The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets
> that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank
> lending peters out.
>
> The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would
> "normalize" in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending
> would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop
> of non-performing loans.
>
> New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August
> after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities
> Journal reported.
>
> In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to
> its "proactive" fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance in
> the second half of the year.
>
> "China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild
> deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary
> policy," the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency,
> said.
>
> It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this
> quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9
> percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008.
>
> The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing
> below potential, mainly due to weak exports.
>
> Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year
> earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast.
>
> Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest
> economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in
> the third quarter, it said.
>
> Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including
> over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors
> with serious over-capacity.
>
> "It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and
> upgrading," the SIC said.
>
> It said property investment could potentially replace government spending
> as the next key driver of growth.
> Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions.
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Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat?

[mekindascrewel]

Karena ini hari jum'at


 

-Original Message-
From: "kayakdayak" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:00:44 
To: 
Subject: [ob] HOTS ngadat?


mulai 11:29 nggak ada transaksi.
kenapa ya?

[ob] HOTS ngadat?

[kayakdayak]

mulai 11:29 nggak ada transaksi.
kenapa ya?

Re: [ob] I go bearish

[tsetiawa...@yahoo.com]

Puasa besok...bukan hari ini...
Hari ini pesta dugem...xixixixi

- original message -
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
From: "BEJ Watch" 
Date: 21/08/2009 11:39 AM

Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm
?

2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 

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>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> tommy_ya...@... wrote:
> >
> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
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> bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "wintama" 
> >
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
> > To: >
> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
> >
> >
> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:
> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
> >
> >
> >
> > _
> >
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > From: tommy_ya...@...
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
> > Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> >
> > Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
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> > Subject: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I GO BEARISH..!!!
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB

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Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

[Elaine Sui]

*The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I
predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10:
*

   - *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight
   credit.
   *
   - *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power.
   *
   - *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the
   destruction of capitalism.*
   - **
   - *H1N1: deadly decoy.*
   - *US - China trade war: it is happening.*

*But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also
have these:
*

   - *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure,
   public transportation*
   - *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all
   shopping freaks! lolz[?]*

*I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better
than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the
soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will
affect the financial market. Give me some prediction..

Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case.
The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple
effect will spread throughout the world.

New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the
market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show
recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are
engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt
restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At
least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia.

So I will say: Buy on US weakness.

Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks
at this time.

Elaine**
*
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin  wrote:

>
>
> China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
> CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH
> Reuters
> | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET
>
> China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third
> quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9
> percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday.
>
> The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets
> that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank
> lending peters out.
>
> The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would
> "normalize" in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending
> would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop
> of non-performing loans.
>
> New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August
> after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities
> Journal reported.
>
> In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to
> its "proactive" fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance in
> the second half of the year.
>
> "China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild
> deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary
> policy," the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency,
> said.
>
> It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this
> quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9
> percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008.
>
> The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing
> below potential, mainly due to weak exports.
>
> Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year
> earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast.
>
> Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest
> economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in
> the third quarter, it said.
>
> Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including
> over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors
> with serious over-capacity.
>
> "It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and
> upgrading," the SIC said.
>
> It said property investment could potentially replace government spending
> as the next key driver of growth.
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[ob] DOW ijo/merah nanti malam ?

[hkstrade]

Tebak-tebak buah manggis ..DOW nanti malem ijo apa merah ?

CLUE :

 Event (Indicator)Time (ET)PeriodConsensus EstActual+/- US - President Obama
Speech 
()8:00
AM
US - Existing Home Sales (Jul,
2009)10:00
AMJul, 2009 Existing Home Sales - Level - SAAR   5.00MExisting Home
Sales - M/M Change   Existing Home Sales - Yr/Yr Change  US -
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke Speech
()10:00
AM




CONTEKAN :

U.S. existing home sales seen at 10-month high in
July

Re: [ob] I go bearish

[tasrul70]

Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he
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From: "s|nnerman" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish


Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari
jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, "ente jual ane beli".
Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli
teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis
niih..?!


On 8/21/09, Tasrul  wrote:
> Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>
>
>
> 
>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
> Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>
>
>
> Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
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> From: "wintama"
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>
>
>
>
>
> I GO BEARISH..!!!
>
>
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB

[paramanandana]

Om Tasrul, ini aplikasi apa ya, apakah robot spt punya om DE...?



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[ob] Pak tasrul

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Pak boleh minta gambaran bumi dan ptba?


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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[s|nnerman]

Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari
jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, "ente jual ane beli".
Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli
teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis
niih..?!


On 8/21/09, Tasrul  wrote:
> Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>
>
>
> 
>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
> Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>
>
>
> Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
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> From: "wintama"
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>
>
>
>
>
> I GO BEARISH..!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[BEJ Watch]

Ohhh gitu, tq pak. Abis kemarin liat di running text tv apaa gitu katanya
hari sabtu.


2009/8/21 VF ™ 

>
>
> Dibeberapa tempat ada yg sdh mulai hari ini.. Sy liat di berita td..
>
> - VF -
>
> --
> *From*: BEJ Watch
> *Date*: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:37:39 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>
>
> Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm
> ?
>
> 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 
>
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
>> tommy_ya...@... wrote:
>> >
>> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
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>>
>> - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
>> bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
>> - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: "wintama" 
>> >
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
>> > To: >
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > [mailto:
>> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
>> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
>> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >_
>> >
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > From: tommy_ya...@...
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
>> > Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
>> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR
>> >
>> >_
>> >
>> > From: "wintama"
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
>> > To: >
>> > Subject: [ob] I go bearish
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I GO BEARISH..!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [ob] Sesi Hari Ini

[VF ™]

Diversifikasi harga aje bos.. Atur MM ma trading plannya.. Disiplin aje kan 
kemaren mbah dah pernah kasi tau TA ma FA ga bs menyelamatkan uang kita, yg 
bisa hanya DISIPLIN.. 
- VF -

-Original Message-
From: D0N Qicot 

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:42:42 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Sesi Hari Ini


Naga naganya...

ntar pas opening sesi 2

kejadian Shanghai Incident terjadi lagi dey...

bisa aja lewat Nikei Incident atau Hangseng Accident...


Nah
giliran koreksi dalem trader kroco kayak ane pada masuk BOW...

Ternyata.


Ntar malem DOW merah (SLIP), hari senin regional merah juga.
modar dach..


Mohon bimbingan Mbah 
apakah Mbah still Ngidam ke 2250...?


tapi sampai sesi 1 closing, Asing Net BUY 150B di banking niy...



trus bijimana Mbah, prof..TT...?





From: Kevin Hogan 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:49:58 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] For Mbah yg Baik Hati

  
Sesi 2 kayaknya akan didrop langsung sama bozz


2009/8/21 Thomas Frederick 

>Mbah kayaknya bozz udah ga ada program "BAIK HATI" ya.. Udah tgl 21 nih. 
>Iching aja ga didengerin.. . Hehehe...
>
>>Boleh minta analisis mbah utk hari ini??
>
>>1. Apakah sesi ini dibuat minus tipis dgn volume kecil trus nanti sesi 2 
>>dibuat DROP dgn heavy volume? Supaya trader yg akan CL dibuat CL lebih dalam, 
>>dikarenakan dengan melihat volume skrg, mayoritas trader akan bilangg ahhh 
>>tunggu dehh masih sepi kok
>
>>Atau...
>
>>2. Sesi 2 diangkat?? Lewat BEJO??
>>2. Sesi ini minus
>
>
>
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[VF ™]

Dibeberapa tempat ada yg sdh mulai hari ini.. Sy liat di berita td..
- VF -

-Original Message-
From: BEJ Watch 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:37:39 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish


Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm
?

2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 

>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> tommy_ya...@... wrote:
> >
> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> >
>
> - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
> bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
> - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "wintama" 
> >
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
> > To: >
> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
> >
> >
> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:
> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
> >
> >
> >
> >_
> >
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > From: tommy_ya...@...
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
> > Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> >
> > Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR
> >
> >_
> >
> > From: "wintama"
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
> > To: >
> > Subject: [ob] I go bearish
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I GO BEARISH..!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_
> >
> > Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons.
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[ob] Sesi Hari Ini

[D0N Qicot]

Naga naganya...

ntar pas opening sesi 2

kejadian Shanghai Incident terjadi lagi dey...

bisa aja lewat Nikei Incident atau Hangseng Accident...


Nah
giliran koreksi dalem trader kroco kayak ane pada masuk BOW...

Ternyata.


Ntar malem DOW merah (SLIP), hari senin regional merah juga.
modar dach..


Mohon bimbingan Mbah 
apakah Mbah still Ngidam ke 2250...?


tapi sampai sesi 1 closing, Asing Net BUY 150B di banking niy...



trus bijimana Mbah, prof..TT...?





From: Kevin Hogan 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:49:58 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] For Mbah yg Baik Hati

  
Sesi 2 kayaknya akan didrop langsung sama bozz


2009/8/21 Thomas Frederick 

>Mbah kayaknya bozz udah ga ada program "BAIK HATI" ya.. Udah tgl 21 nih. 
>Iching aja ga didengerin.. . Hehehe...
>
>>Boleh minta analisis mbah utk hari ini??
>
>>1. Apakah sesi ini dibuat minus tipis dgn volume kecil trus nanti sesi 2 
>>dibuat DROP dgn heavy volume? Supaya trader yg akan CL dibuat CL lebih dalam, 
>>dikarenakan dengan melihat volume skrg, mayoritas trader akan bilangg ahhh 
>>tunggu dehh masih sepi kok
>
>>Atau...
>
>>2. Sesi 2 diangkat?? Lewat BEJO??
>>2. Sesi ini minus
>
>
>
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RE: Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK

[wintama]

 

Udah CL. Ga apa, emang udah tahu resikonya.

Padahal udah ga mau ngisi ember kalo IHSG lom nyentuh ~2150 atau break ~2412, 
kecuali ada saham yg sexy.

Sekarang nyari barang sexy lagi susah.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of tommy_ya...@yahoo.com
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:45
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

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From: wahyu widhitya 
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:26 -0700 (PDT)
To: 
Subject: Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK

  

udah. cutloss aja... (disclaimer on)

 

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Dari: wintama 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009 10:32:09
Judul: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

  

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou 
ps.com] On Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou 
ps.com]On Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

 


Volum makin gede...

 

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Re: [ob] CPRO...

[frombuitenzorg]

Yang suka CPRO, ati2 jebol kebawah tapi gak parah, sementara masih 
sideway...mudah2an aman.

Rgrds

Re: [ob] I go bearish

[BEJ Watch]

Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm
?

2009/8/21 jsx_consultant 

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>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> tommy_ya...@... wrote:
> >
> > Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "wintama" 
> >
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51
> > To: >
> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> >
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> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
> >
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> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:
> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[cipto_jh]

Besok mbah, puasa hari perdananyah.. :)

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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_yap99@ wrote:
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>   bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
> - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "wintama" 
> > 
> > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 
> > To: 
> > Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> > 
> > 
> > APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Tasrul
> > Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[Matt Landris]

Saya di Jakarta Utara, Sunter. Fastnetnya ok ok aja mbah.





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:31:14 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote:
>
> Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
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- Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
  bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
- Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.



> -Original Message-
> From: "wintama" 
> 
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> 
> 
> APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
> 
>  
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Tasrul
> Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> From: tommy_ya...@...
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
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[ob] Re: Dow Update : MACD Optimized

[sulistyo_winarto]

Pak Tasrul, DOW - 63 jam 11.30.

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> Dow rally lagi.
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> Tasrul
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> 
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Re: [ob]DEWA UDANG

[EB™]

Oke bro, no problem hehehehehehehe...


Regards,

EdBa
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-Original Message-
From: Berrack Obama 

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:43:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob]DEWA UDANG


Boss Halim, saya tidak pernah mengatakan kalau supir medan masuk jurang melulu, 
saya bilang "ntar masuk jurang" lain loh artinya itu boss.
Eh, boss, emang di bursa ada yang namanya bandar? kalo kata boss BEI tidak ada 
yang namanya bandar di BEI.  Kalo emang bandar ada kenalin ke ane dong boss, 
aye pengin liat gimana sih mahluk yang namanya bandar itu, cantik ga kayak miss 
EL?
Pak Edba, horas bro, no hard feeling man, ane juga orang medan kok, supir medan 
hanya istilah, tidak ada maksud menjelek2an ras tertentu.
Peace

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, T Halim  wrote:

From: T Halim 
Subject: Re: [ob]Supir Medan ~  DEWA UDANG
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 2:18 AM












 
 





  Boss Berak, emang kau ada data supir Medan masuk jurang 
melulu?
 
Jangan gitu lah.. yg damai damai aja.. 
 
Perang ama Bandar tuh 


  
 

  




 






















  

RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

[wintama]

Iya itu dia... “trend is my friend” nya lupa, dihipnotis ama BD.

Lihat running trade memang bisa makan korban. penyakit yg susah disembuhin.  

Ya udah ah.. emang sih salah sendiri, pake iseng segala. Udah CL sih.

Awas ntar kalo target bear nya udah nyampe  ember bikin fulll kalo 
perlu pake margin..!

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 11:20
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

mangkanya kalo yakin bearish ya nge-short, jangan malah belanja ……., hehehe

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:32
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

 

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

 Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  


Volum makin gede...

 

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Bls: [ob] Dow Update : MACD Optimized

[dario kurniawan]

ane bow hari ini bang..simpen buat senen..iya nih DF nya keterlaluan banget 
turunnya...
mudah2an euro masih ribon ntar malam..enaknya lagi regional merah saat ini, ada 
peluang ijo ataupun mines kecil hari senen masih naik saham pilihan ane...saham 
lho bukan JSX 

Dario Amran

--- Pada Jum, 21/8/09, Tasrul  menulis:


Dari: Tasrul 
Judul: [ob] Dow Update : MACD Optimized
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009, 11:15 AM


  





 
Hati-hati kegocek sama Dow Future yg saat ini -50. Semoga gak slip, dan Dow 
rally lagi.
 
 

 

 
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[jsx_consultant]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote:
>
> Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
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- Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%,
  bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi.
- Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati.



> -Original Message-
> From: "wintama" 
> 
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> 
> 
> APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...
> 
>  
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Tasrul
> Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> From: tommy_ya...@...
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
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Re: [ob] RE: Korelasi IHSG n BUMI

[VF ™]

Prof kaga trading hari ini..?
Btw nasib motor trailnya gimane.. Hehee...
Masi amankan ?
- VF -

-Original Message-
From: "JsxTrader" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:25:11 
To: 'EnerQi Fahmi Wanto '
Cc: ; 
Subject: [ob] RE: Korelasi IHSG n BUMI


Beta korelasi BUMI thd Index = 1.61.., jadi bisa dihitung berapa kira-kira
harga bumi jika index turun 600 point.

 

JT

 



 

-Original Message-
From: EnerQi Fahmi Wanto [mailto:wantofa...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:50
To: JT 
Subject: Korelasi IHSG n BUMI

 

Mr. JT, boleh advise, korelasi IHSG dgn bumi bagaimana ya??? Asumsi IHSG
koreksi 600 pts dari high 2428, BUMI ke berapa ya... 

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Re: [ob] For Mbah yg Baik Hati

[Kevin Hogan]

Sesi 2 kayaknya akan didrop langsung sama bozz

2009/8/21 Thomas Frederick 

> Mbah kayaknya bozz udah ga ada program "BAIK HATI" ya.. Udah tgl 21 nih.
> Iching aja ga didengerin... Hehehe...
>
> Boleh minta analisis mbah utk hari ini??
>
> 1. Apakah sesi ini dibuat minus tipis dgn volume kecil trus nanti sesi 2
> dibuat DROP dgn heavy volume? Supaya trader yg akan CL dibuat CL lebih
> dalam, dikarenakan dengan melihat volume skrg, mayoritas trader akan bilangg
> ahhh tunggu dehh masih sepi kok
>
> Atau...
>
> 2. Sesi 2 diangkat?? Lewat BEJO??
> 2. Sesi ini minus
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[ob] capital flow

[arie dj]

menurut EPFR, dana investor bnyk keluar dari Asia, masuk amerika latin, eropah, 
middle east, afrika.

Dana yang keluar Taiwan ada kelihatan menambah ke India dan Indonesia

Indikator nya lihat gerakan Rp

Emerging Market, China Fund Outflows Surge, EPFR Says (Update1) 

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By Shiyin Chen
Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Global emerging-market equity funds posted the highest 
outflows of 2009 in the third week of August, while China equity funds had 
their worst week since early in the first quarter of 2008, EPFR Global said. 
Funds investing in developing nation stocks globally lost $946 million in the 
week ended Aug. 19, the research company said. Asia excluding-Japan funds lost 
$810 million, the most in 24 weeks, while Latin America and Europe, Middle East 
and Africa stock funds saw “modest inflows,” EFPR added. 
The MSCI Emerging Markets Index is set for a 1.6 percent drop this week, its 
worst performance since the five days ended July 10. Losses this week were 
paced by a 4..7 percent drop in the Shanghai Composite Index, its third 
straight weekly retreat and the world’s worst performer this month. 
“China’s resilient growth has been a key driver of flows into emerging markets 
equity funds in recent months,” EPFR said in an e-mail. “During the third week 
of August, however, doubts about the quality of the loans doled out at 
breakneck speed by Chinese banks during the first half of 2009 prompted 
investors to book profits and take some of their recent gains off the table.” 
EPFR provides fund flows and asset allocation data to financial institutions 
around the world. 
China’s benchmark index posted the biggest gains among the world’s major 
markets from Jan. 1 to Aug. 4, more than doubling from the low in November. 
Shares had surged as the government unveiled a 4 trillion yuan ($585 billion) 
stimulus package and new loans by banks surged to a record in the first half. 
The index has slumped this month, paring the year-to-date advance to 60 
percent, after new lending in July tumbled to less than a quarter of June’s 
level. 
Concerns over Chinese banks also prompted investors to pull funds from Taiwan, 
whose stock funds saw the highest redemptions in dollar terms in more than 
seven years, EPFR said. Investors instead added to India and Indonesia equity 
funds, it added. 
To contact the reporter for this story: Shiyin Chen in Singapore at 
sche...@bloomberg.net Last Updated: August 20, 2009 21:34 EDT  
     DWBH  TRADER
(Dont Worry Be Happy)



  

Re: [ob] Salam Kenal -to EL

[Berrack Obama]

Wah, tumben, miss EL bisa buat nice post kayak gini, lagi caper ama mas Ian ya? 
lagi cari pengganti yang baru putus kemaren ya? 
Kalau boleh tahu miss EL masuk kategori mana? yang 95% atau yang 5% 
Peace

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Elaine Sui  wrote:

From: Elaine Sui 
Subject: Re: [ob] Salam Kenal
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 4:34 PM












 
 





  Hello IAN nice to have you here. 

Perhaps you knew already that OB is 95% a$$ kissers, stock junkies, fake 
players and opportunists that will take advantage of anyone especially from a 
nice guy like you. (yes, I'm talking about all replies above )




5% are true experts.

Again, welcome to OB.

Elaine



 

  




 






















  

Re: [ob] gak asik marketnya..

[tommy_yap99]

Wah , tau gitu mending gopi2 jg , dah kegigit untr 13100 bmri 4025 , duh , jadi 
kudu jadi satpam dulu jendral ,(prajurit piket dulu d)
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:04 
To: ob
Subject: [ob] gak asik marketnya..



banyak SB hari ini..
gak asik marketnya..

ngopi ngopi dulu lah..


regards,

A9

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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[tommy_yap99]

Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ?
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From: "wintama" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 
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Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish


APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...

 

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On Behalf Of Tasrul
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
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Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish

 

  

Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli

 

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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish

  

Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V
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From: "wintama" 
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] I go bearish

  

 

I GO BEARISH..!!!

 

 

 

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Re: [ob]DEWA UDANG

[Berrack Obama]

Boss Halim, saya tidak pernah mengatakan kalau supir medan masuk jurang melulu, 
saya bilang "ntar masuk jurang" lain loh artinya itu boss.
Eh, boss, emang di bursa ada yang namanya bandar? kalo kata boss BEI tidak ada 
yang namanya bandar di BEI.  Kalo emang bandar ada kenalin ke ane dong boss, 
aye pengin liat gimana sih mahluk yang namanya bandar itu, cantik ga kayak miss 
EL?
Pak Edba, horas bro, no hard feeling man, ane juga orang medan kok, supir medan 
hanya istilah, tidak ada maksud menjelek2an ras tertentu.
Peace

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, T Halim  wrote:

From: T Halim 
Subject: Re: [ob]Supir Medan ~  DEWA UDANG
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 2:18 AM












 
 





  Boss Berak, emang kau ada data supir Medan masuk jurang 
melulu?
 
Jangan gitu lah.. yg damai damai aja.. 
 
Perang ama Bandar tuh 


  
 

  




 






















  

Re: Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK

[tommy_yap99]

Bahaya bos , main saham gitu , dulu knp di cnko n asri , kapok  d 
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From: wahyu widhitya 

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:40:26 
To: 
Subject: Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK


udah. cutloss aja... (disclaimer on)





Dari: wintama 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009 10:32:09
Judul: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

  
Wah... kena jebak juga nih...
STOP di 85 deh.
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK
 
  
Udah hajar kanan di 98.
Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi
bagus.
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
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Volum makin gede... 
 


 
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[ob] RE: Korelasi IHSG n BUMI

[JsxTrader]

Beta korelasi BUMI thd Index = 1.61.., jadi bisa dihitung berapa kira-kira
harga bumi jika index turun 600 point.

 

JT

 



 

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From: EnerQi Fahmi Wanto [mailto:wantofa...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:50
To: JT 
Subject: Korelasi IHSG n BUMI

 

Mr. JT, boleh advise, korelasi IHSG dgn bumi bagaimana ya??? Asumsi IHSG
koreksi 600 pts dari high 2428, BUMI ke berapa ya... 

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Re: [ob] Wacth KARK

[stock . breeder]

Wakakakakaakakakakakka LOL!!!;p


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From: "JsxTrader" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:19:53 
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK


mangkanya kalo yakin bearish ya nge-short, jangan malah belanja ……., hehehe

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:32
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

 

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

 Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

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Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  


Volum makin gede...

 

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Re: [ob] prepare for dive!

[VF ™]

Ready for BOW dong bos...
Ato jgn2 skenarionya kaya yg billy bilang.. Heheee...
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-Original Message-
From: Peter Alimin 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:15:47 
To: OB
Subject: [ob] prepare for dive!



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RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

[JsxTrader]

mangkanya kalo yakin bearish ya nge-short, jangan malah belanja ……., hehehe

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:32
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

 

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

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Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

 Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

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Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  


Volum makin gede...

 

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Re: JT Re: [ob] Shanghai +4%

[boyz]

ga tau tuh saham apa aja yg di short sama Robotnya om DE

Om DE... jadinya robot piaraan ente namanya SB?
SB= *Si Bijimane*  kan ?





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> > >
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> > > > Apa Mr. SB baru mulai hari ini kerja?
> > > >
> > > > SB=shorter biadab.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > DE
> > > >
> > > > Pada 20 Agustus 2009 15:07, Dean Earwicker menulis:
> > > > > Mau lihat shorter biadab ngga?
> > > > >
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[ob] prepare for dive!

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[ob] peta IHSG

[VF ™]

apakah sdh terlihat akan bearish... kalo koreksi emang betul tapi kalo bearish 
masih belum ada tanda2 yg terlihat..
apakah ini wave ABC.. hmmm... belum tentu... kita liat saja pd saat membentuk 
wave B kl tidak bisa membentuk higher high baru deh konfirm...
yg terpenting bagi seorang trader adl sikap "tenang" agar tidak loss 
opportunity...

please believe what u see.. not what u think...


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[ob] Info

[**bLi-iNdRa**]

Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Hong Kong stocks fell, reversing gains, after news China 
plans to tighten capital requirements for banks. 
Catt : Pengetatan kebutuhan modal kepada perbankan dikhawatirkan akan menahan 
ekspansi kredit, yang berarti tertahannya akselerasi perekonomian (sektor riil) 
di Cina.  
Best Regards
**bLi iNdRa**

==cuan ga cuan yg penting happy==

[ob] JUAL ANTM INCO

[kidod25]

cadangan nikel besar amat ya

http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/nickel_historical_large.html#lmestocks_1year

[ob] Ramadhan is Coming....

[Alex Muhairuddin]

Ramadhan is Coming...   Happy fasting...
Selamat Menjalankan Ibadah Puasa.

Salam
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[ob] CINA jebol tuh

[kidod25]

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=01.SS&t=3m&l=on&z=m&q=l&p=m20,m50,m100,m200&a=m26-12-9,fs,r14&c=

MA 100 udah jebol di cina


IHSG sptnya akan nyusul 1-2 bulan ke depan.,

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=^JKSE&t=6m&l=on&z=m&q=l&p=m100,m50,m20&a=m26-12-9,r14&c=

RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

[wintama]

Iya ... gatel nih tangan kalo lagi kosong gini, hehe...  dikit aja, biar
asik mantaunya. Kalo ga bosen.

Tapi tetap aja siap nampung kalo target bearish tercapai (1-2 minggu lagi
deh).

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of mitohobu lkastneynnu
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:39
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

kt nye posisi ente bearishternyata belanja juga...hmm...

 

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From: wintama 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:32:09 AM
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

  

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
ps.com  ] On Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
ps.com] On Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  


Volum makin gede...

 

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Re: [ob] Wacth KARK

[yanphansp]

Pak, fren gimana? Kayaknya dah selesai maennya? Tlg liatin donk pak


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From: "Tasrul" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:42:39 
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK


Ya elah, lagian saham gituan dibeli  cape deeh

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wahyu widhitya
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:40 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

udah. cutloss aja... (disclaimer on)

 



Dari: wintama 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009 10:32:09
Judul: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

  

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
ps.com] On Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
ps.com] On Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

Volum makin gede...

 



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Re: [ob] gak asik marketnya..

[Peter Alimin]

Ya nih jendral..
Vol kcil, g ada yg jaga..
Bozz liburan kale...
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From: artomoro9 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:40:04 
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Subject: [ob] gak asik marketnya..


  
 
 
 


banyak SB hari ini..
gak asik marketnya..

ngopi ngopi dulu lah..


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[ob] For Mbah yg Baik Hati

[Thomas Frederick]

Mbah kayaknya bozz udah ga ada program "BAIK HATI" ya.. Udah tgl 21 nih. Iching 
aja ga didengerin... Hehehe...

Boleh minta analisis mbah utk hari ini??

1. Apakah sesi ini dibuat minus tipis dgn volume kecil trus nanti sesi 2 dibuat 
DROP dgn heavy volume? Supaya trader yg akan CL dibuat CL lebih dalam, 
dikarenakan dengan melihat volume skrg, mayoritas trader akan bilangg ahhh 
tunggu dehh masih sepi kok

Atau...

2. Sesi 2 diangkat?? Lewat BEJO??
2. Sesi ini minus

[ob] gak asik marketnya..

[artomoro9]

banyak SB hari ini..
gak asik marketnya..

ngopi ngopi dulu lah..


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RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

[Tasrul]

Ya elah, lagian saham gituan dibeli  cape deeh

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:40 AM
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Subject: Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

udah. cutloss aja... (disclaimer on)

 



Dari: wintama 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009 10:32:09
Judul: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

  

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
ps.com] On Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
ps.com] On Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

Volum makin gede...

 



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[ob] Asing mulai Net BUY !

[datasahamku]

setelah tiga hari bertubi2 Asing net sell , per 10.38 wib asing sudah Net BUY 
Rp 108 miliar...semoga hari senin mereka net BUY makin banyak...semoga Dow 
Jones ntar malem break 9.400MERDEKA ! 

JT Re: [ob] Shanghai +4%

[rangga_the_demon]

...CMNP kah...?...yang laen ape boss .???

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz  wrote:
>
> robotnya om DE ... biadab, gak punya emosi, raja tega... hiks
> [?]
> 
> 2009/8/21 kucing_liar1 
> 
> > iya siapa tuh DE???
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Apa Mr. SB baru mulai hari ini kerja?
> > >
> > > SB=shorter biadab.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DE
> > >
> > > Pada 20 Agustus 2009 15:07, Dean Earwicker menulis:
> > > > Mau lihat shorter biadab ngga?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > DE
> > > >
> > > > Pada 20 Agustus 2009 14:49, artomoro9 menulis:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> whoii..
> > > >>
> > > >> jangan bikin FEAR dong...
> > > >> ntar bikin prof gak konsen di pijetnya...
> > > >> salah pijit berabe tuh. MODAL BESAR melayang dah...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[VF ™]

Bah dah bearish lg..
Kl ijo bullish kl merah sehari lgs bearish lg ya.. Hahahah...
Tenang aja.. Emang tracknya lg ke 2230 baru cakep..
Watch carefully saham2 yg kuat.. Spt INDF...
- VF -

-Original Message-
From: "wintama" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 
To: 
Subject: [ob] I go bearish


I GO BEARISH..!!!

Bls: [ob] Wacth KARK

[wahyu widhitya]

udah. cutloss aja... (disclaimer on)





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Judul: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

  
Wah... kena jebak juga nih...
STOP di 85 deh.
 
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To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK
 
  
Udah hajar kanan di 98.
Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi
bagus.
 
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Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
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Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK
 
  
Volum makin gede... 
 


 
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[ob] Kurang darah gak bergairah...

[EB™]

Iya nih, kurang darah jadi gak bergairah.



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-Original Message-
From: Peter Alimin 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:26:01 
To: OB
Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish



Vol hari ini kecil bgt ya..

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
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Re: [ob] Wacth KARK

[mitohobu lkastneynnu]

kt nye posisi ente bearishternyata belanja juga...hmm...





From: wintama 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:32:09 AM
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

  
Wah... kena jebak juga nih...
STOP di 85 deh.
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK
 
  
Udah hajar kanan di 98.
Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK
 
  
Volum makin gede... 
 



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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[Januar]

yup kecil bangetjadina harga merosot lagi.
gocekan lagikah??
moga2 cuman gocekan ajah.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Alimin 
  To: OB 
  Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish




  Vol hari ini kecil bgt ya..


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Re: [ob] I go bearish

[mitohobu lkastneynnu]

gihhh dahhh





From: wintama 
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:09:33 AM
Subject: [ob] I go bearish

  
I GO BEARISH..!!!



  

RE: [ob] I go bearish

[wintama]

APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe...

 

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Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli

 

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish

  

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RE: [ob] I go bearish

[wintama]

Ntar kalo KARK di 85 jual dehhehe... yg laen emang lagi kosong. Gatel
aja

 

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Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli

 

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
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RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

[wintama]

Wah... kena jebak juga nih...

STOP di 85 deh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wintama
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:23
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  

Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  


Volum makin gede...

 

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Re: JT Re: [ob] Shanghai +4%

[boyz]

robotnya om DE ... biadab, gak punya emosi, raja tega... hiks
[?]

2009/8/21 kucing_liar1 

> iya siapa tuh DE???
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker 
> wrote:
> >
> > Apa Mr. SB baru mulai hari ini kerja?
> >
> > SB=shorter biadab.
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> >
> > Pada 20 Agustus 2009 15:07, Dean Earwicker menulis:
> > > Mau lihat shorter biadab ngga?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DE
> > >
> > > Pada 20 Agustus 2009 14:49, artomoro9 menulis:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> whoii..
> > >>
> > >> jangan bikin FEAR dong...
> > >> ntar bikin prof gak konsen di pijetnya...
> > >> salah pijit berabe tuh. MODAL BESAR melayang dah...
> > >>
> > >>
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RE: [ob] I go bearish

[Tasrul]

Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli

 



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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700
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RE: [ob] I go bearish

[Peter Alimin]

Vol hari ini kecil bgt ya..

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 +
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Subject: [ob] I go bearish

  
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RE: [ob] Wacth KARK

[wintama]

Udah hajar kanan di 98.

Tunggu 2 mingguan. Wave nya memang lagi bagus.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Saham Oke
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:42
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Wacth KARK

 

  


Volum makin gede...

 

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From: "wintama" 

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 
To: 
Subject: [ob] I go bearish


I GO BEARISH..!!!

JT Re: [ob] Shanghai +4%

[kucing_liar1]

iya siapa tuh DE???


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker  
wrote:
>
> Apa Mr. SB baru mulai hari ini kerja?
> 
> SB=shorter biadab.
> 
> Regards,
> DE
> 
> Pada 20 Agustus 2009 15:07, Dean Earwicker menulis:
> > Mau lihat shorter biadab ngga?
> >
> > Regards,
> > DE
> >
> > Pada 20 Agustus 2009 14:49, artomoro9 menulis:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> whoii..
> >>
> >> jangan bikin FEAR dong...
> >> ntar bikin prof gak konsen di pijetnya...
> >> salah pijit berabe tuh. MODAL BESAR melayang dah...
> >>
> >>
> >
>

[ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation

[Peter Alimin]

China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No InflationCHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC 
PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTHReuters|  20 Aug 2009  |  09:47 PM  ET  China's
gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter
from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent
pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. The
bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets
that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank
lending peters out. The State Information
Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would "normalize" in coming
months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave many
state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop of
non-performing loans. New lending will
rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August after
shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities
Journal reported. In a report carried in
the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to its "proactive"
fiscal policy and "appropriately loose" monetary stance in the second
half of the year. "China's CPI has been
falling for many months and it's a fact that mild deflation exists, so
there is no basis for China to alter its monetary policy," the
think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency, said. It
forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent
this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would
decline 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. The SIC said 
the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing below potential, 
mainly due to weak exports. Exports
would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year
earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. Capital
spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest
economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent
in the third quarter, it said. Strong
investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including
over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as
sectors with serious over-capacity. "It is extremely bad for China's future 
industrial restructuring and upgrading," the SIC said. It said property 
investment could potentially replace government spending as the next key driver 
of growth.  Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions.
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Bls: BUMI Re: Bls: [ob] IHSG technical

[AB]

dipijit mak erot biar lempeng ha3x..





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Terkirim: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009 09:37:54
Judul: RE: BUMI Re: Bls: [ob] IHSG technical

  
tenang ajaa….., Ntar ane bawa ke dukun patah biar trendnya LEMPENG lagi…, hehehe
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of Hans Kwee
Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 9:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: BUMI Re: Bls: [ob] IHSG technical
 

BUMI dalam gambar

trend jangka pendek patah.

thx
hans



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