[obrolan-bandar] akses wap etrading

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

dear all

apakah ada yg mengalami kesulitan dalam akses WAP wap.etrading.co.id via
handphone?
krn setelah login ada message "database failed to respond"?
baru terjadi hari ini padahal tgl 30 dec tidak masalah.

apa ada yg tahu solusinya?

thanks.

[obrolan-bandar] Lapkeu GGRM Q3

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Bapak/Ibu

Ada yg punya Laporan Keuangan GGRM Q3 Jan-Sept 2008?
Krn di website idx belum di-publish.
Please share if you have it.

Thank you,

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Laba bersih TBLA naik 60 kali lipat

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Dah cape pak nembakin saham ini. Heran sebagus apapun laporan keuangannya
kok gak naik-naik harganya.
Mungkin yg ahli fundamental bisa bantu njelasin. Ada istilah price reflect
everything, saya kuatir ada something wrong dgn saham ini.
Maklum laggard-nya luar biasa.


On 5/2/08, conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   SEnin jangan lupa deh tembak TBLA gila amazing tbla long term
>
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Positive to mid term ==>Market reacts negatively on BI rate hike

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Jadi tujuannya apa Embah koneksi dibuat putus?

Biar retailer gak bisa jualan?

Atau malah biar retailer gak bisa beli pas barang diguyur sama bandar krn
para bandar saling bertukar barang?


On 5/6/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Prasetyo, Hani"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Gimana caranya Mbah, apa bozz punya akses ke jaringan internet juga
> buat
> > hack koneksi internet ...
> >
> > Kayak filem Mission Possible eh Impossible aja... he3... (lagi
> > ngebayangin... m)
>
> Tentu perlu hacker yg canggih buat ngerubah setting router IIX
> atau kalo mau murah suruh orang nyabut kabel...
>
> Tapi gangguan internet siang tadi BUKAN PUTUS TOTAL tapi TERHENTI
> HENTI, traffic data DIBIKIN GEDE BANGET sehingga macet,
> mirip jalan tol yg macet karena KEBANYAKAN kendaraan..
>
> Contoh buat bikin TRAFFIC MACET ialah dengan mengirim ORDER
> BUY/SELL sebanyak banyaknya pake mesin dengan harga JAUH
> dari BEST BID/OFFER, jadi data ini tidak terlihat pada RUNNING
> TRADE.
>
> Atau network dibikin banyak errornya sehingga terjadi DEGRADASI
> bandwidth.
>
> Contoh yg sederhana ialah DODGING dimana colokan kabel network
> dibikin berkarat sehingga network kadang nyambung kadang
> engga seperti keadaan TADI SIANG dimana internet masih
> online (tidak putus terus), kadang jalan kadang tidak, seperti
> ada orang yang lagi nyabut colokan kabel network lalu dipasang
> lagi secara berulang ulang...
>
> Sorry embah belaga sok tau, coba tanya langsung ama hacker
> asli gimana caranya...
>
> 
>

[ob] OKAS - to pak Sulistyo

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Pak Sulistyo

Nih OKAS nya, pernah disebut 1x oleh jenderal Artomoro.
Tapi sayang aku nggak sempet beli keburu naik, hehehe...

-- Forwarded message --
From: artomoro9 
Date: 2008/12/10
Subject: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Makan apa nih?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

ada yg perhatian sama saham ini. OKAS.



http://www.kontan.co.id/index.php/Nasional/news/5109/Ancora_Listing_di_Bursa_Lewat_Jalur_Belakang

JAKARTA. Sulur investasi Ancora Group kian menjalar. Salah satu perusahaan
di grup ini, PT Ancora Resources, akhirnya menjadi pengendali utama dan
menguasai 85,2% saham PT TD Resources Tbk (OKAS). Artinya, Ancora akhirnya
melantai di bursa lewat jalur belakang alias *back door listing.*
Ancora jadi pengendali OKAS setelah memborong saham penerbitan saham baru
atau rights issue OKAS. Sebelumnya, Ancora hanya memiliki 18,84% saham
perusahaan tambang itu. pemegang saham OKAS yang lain adalah Okansa Pacific
Ltd (23,65%), Daygain Ltd (19%), Massive Holdings Ltd (8,65%) dan masyarakat
(29,86%).
Pada Oktober lalu, OKAS melakukan rights issue sebanyak 832,5 juta saham,
seharga Rp 170 per saham. Nah, Ancora merupakan pembeli siaga (standby
buyer) saham baru OKAS. Pasca aksi korporasi tersebut, Ancora menguasai
sekitar 866,88 saham (85,20%), dan 14,80% sisanya milik publik.
dst...


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Re: [ob] oot: kebanjiran facebook

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

pak arto
alamat facebook nya apa?

thx

2009/4/23 artomoro9 

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>
> dear obers,
>
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> saya kan baru belajar pake facebook,
>
> eh sudah kebanjiran permintaan facebook dan saya add semua.
>
> ternyata pake facebook susah juga yaa.
>
>  semuanya akan saya add kok, biar PASUKAN TAMBAH BANYAK
>
>
> banyak temen banyak rezeki...!!!
>
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> DISCLAIMER ON
> --
>  Pemerintahan yang jujur bersih? Mungkin nggak ya?
> 
> Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
> 
>

Re: [ob] Contoh wartawan dodol

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Thx pak Cougar atas info-nya yg jitu,hehehe...

Pada tanggal 10/08/09, Cougar Boy  menulis:
> ...semoga yang baca gak ikutan dodol
> -
>
> *BTEL Kembali Menawar FREN*
>
> JAKARTA. Perusahaan telepon milik Grup Bakrie, PT Bakrie Telecom Tbk (BTEL)
> masih berminat membeli 19% saham PT Mobile-8 Telecom Tbk (FREN) milik PT
> Global Mediacom Tbk (BMTR). Menurut kabar yang beredar, BTEL segera
> mengajukan penawaran baru untuk membeli 3,844 miliar saham FREN.
>
> * Sejauh ini manajemen Bakrie Telecom belum bersedia mengomentari soal
> rencana pembelian saham FREN ini. "Sejauh ini BTEL masih bertahan dengan
> pertumbuhan organik," *kata Sekretaris Perusahaan BTEL Rachmad Junaidi,
> kemarin (9/8).
>
> * Direktur Utama BMTR Harry Tanoesoedibjo membenarkan sudah ada calon
> pembeli saham FREN. Namun, dia enggan mengungkapkan calon pembelinya*. "Saya
> tidak bisa menyebutkan calon pembelinya karena terikat perjanjian
> kerahasiaan," elaknya.
>
> Harry menyatakan, BMTR akan langsung menutup transaksi penjualan dengan
> calon pembeli FREN itu. Saat ini proses penjualan saham FREN masih berjalan.
>
>
> BMTR terus mengurangi kepemilikan saham FREN. Tahun lalu misalnya, BMTR
> menjual 22,79% saham FREN miliknya kepada Jerash Investment. Usai penjualan
> tersebut, BMTR tinggal memiliki 19% saham FREN.
>
> FREN menyatakan, penjualan ini bagian dari restrukturisasi bisnis FREN.
> Maklum, sesuai kesepakatan restrukturisasi dengan para pemegang obligasinya,
> FREN berusaha mencari suntikan dana guna menyehatkan keuangan dan
> menjalankan roda bisnisnya.
>
> Salah satunya adalah dengan mencari investor baru. "Proses itu masih terus
> berjalan di level pemegang saham," kata Chris Taufik Sekretaris Perusahaan
> FREN.
>
> [ Rizki Caturini, Sandy Baskoro ]   KONTAN Mon, 10 Aug 2009 ( 07:13:54 WIB
> )
>

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[ob] OOT - Air Purifier Honeywell

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

All

Sorry nih OOT. Saya lagi mau nyari air purifier Honeywell. Anybody
knows distributor retail Honeywell di Jakarta yg barangnya lengkap &
harga bersaing?

Maklum saya dari luar Jkt & di daerah tempat saya sekarang barang ini
kurang umum.

Thank you,

Re: [ob] Arah Rombongan Kambing disensor (Bursa adalah Perang)

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Mbah
Saya switch saham2 yg sudah cuan searah dgn kenaikan index ke 2800.

saya switch ke B7 & TLKM.all out.

It's now or never.

Kalo salah anggap saja invest buat anak cucu.moga2 nasib baik memihak...

Thx


Pada tanggal 25/03/10, jsx_consultant  menulis:
>
> Arah Rombongan Kambing disensor
>
> Kemarin embah kasih tehnik untuk mengetahui ADAnya ILUSI INDEX dengan
> melihat
>
> arah Rombongan Kambing pada penutupan..
>
> Tapi sore ini, arah gerakan rombongan kambing itu HILANG  mulai jam
> 15:00
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EJKSE&t=1d&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=%5EJKMING,%\
> 5EJKAGRI,%5EJKFINA,%5EJKCONS,%5EJKPROP,%5EJKBIND,%5EJKTRAD,%5EJKMISC,%5E\
> JKINFA
>  %5EJKAGRI,%5EJKFINA,%5EJKCONS,%5EJKPROP,%5EJKBIND,%5EJKTRAD,%5EJKMISC,%5\
> EJKINFA>
>
> Heran yah, takut bener dilihat ama embah... takut diambil kambingnya
> mengkale ... hehehe...
>
>
>
>

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Re: [ob] SULI TO P-Oen

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Setuju ama pak herman.banyakan kalo yg direkomen saham ancur FA nya nggak
naik2 malah nyungsep.contohnya enrg...

On Apr 1, 2010 6:42 PM,  wrote:



Pak Oen,

Saya punya pendapat yg agak beda, ASRI dan BKSL tidak bisa dibandingkan.
ASRI perusahaan untung, BKSL perusahaan rugi terus meskipun PBV rendah. Ane
pernah kejebak di BKSL, portfolio turun tinggal 60%, untung ane berani cut
loss dan switch ke ASRI, lalu BMTR dan CTRP. Dalam 2 bulan portfolio naik
jadi 150%.

Lesson yg sy learn, FA come first baru buy on weakness based on TA.

Just sharing my experience.

Herman Ang

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--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
"Oentoeng"  wrote:


>
> Saya pribadi masih optimis akan ada seri2 berikutnya...
>
> Cuman saat ini masih byk org "trau...
  

Re: [ob] MEDC -- pak eka

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Amin pak.kalau 20rb ntar kita sama2 kaya mendadak.asal jgn bernasib kayak
pkpk...saya juga mulai collect lagi nih medc setelah sempat pesimis.

On Apr 8, 2010 8:49 AM, "Eka Suwandana"  wrote:



MEDC 2-3 hari lalu sudah final signed jadi operator + owner Area 47 LIBYA.
Ini saham bisa 2 suatu saat. Saya baru 2 hari lalu jual TBLA, CNKO semua
saham saya dan sebagian saham di NY pindahin ke MEDC. Ini bener2 tempat
untuk investor. Di BEI 100% porto gw di saham ini. Kalo ada yg masih inget
postingan saya jaman tambahan 60rb BOPD, OIL 80$/BBL, dulu saya bilang mau
keberapa? Dulu cuma owner bukan operator, dulu operatornya Verenex.
Serius kalo ada waktu saya mau bahas saham ini, sayang mertua gw  ke-2nya
sakit parah, jadi istri ngurus ibu mertua , dan saya nungguin anak tiap
hari, nggak ada waktu cuap2 di OB.
GOOD LUCK.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:56 PM,  wrote:
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> Pola kepala dan pundak terbalik.
> Tar...
 

Re: [ob] FPNI - to TOM.D.S

[Ari Sugiarto Santoso]

Pak Tom
Kalo nggak salah saya baca fpni sebagian saham dimiliki sampoerna print
pack,20% publik.saya kok tdk melihat nama titan sbg owner?

Btw boleh share prospektus penawaran bond nya biar bisa tahu lebih jauh
prospek company ini?

Thx

On Apr 10, 2010 8:31 AM, "Tom DS"  wrote:



*Sorry for the late reply.. my bad coz almost during early quarter made me
headache..

OK anyway, mungkin istilahnya bukan "bocoran" yah since I'm not one of them
& I'm don't know personally with its management. However I could share my
view a bit on this stuff..

Important thing about FPNI is that if you see at its business segmentation,
it gained more than 90% from Polyethylene business while only less than 10%
from plastic sheet BOPP. This was after Titan tookover FPNI at early-2008 if
I'm not mistaken, while before they only have 100% of plastic sheet BOPP
business. This would be one of the reason of their "turn-around story".

2nd thing is about its Polyethylene business. As you mentioned, this is a
very prospectfull business in Indonesia since Indonesia's demand of this
products is outpass of its supply, or we normally call it as overdemand
market situation instead of oversupply, which caused Indonesia as becoming
net importing country of this product. Only 2 companies in Indonesia which
produce this product. While the current (last year) company's production
facility only able to run 65% as mentioned in the prospectous, right? I
checked with my colleague in Singapore who works for market intelligence for
chemical & petrochemical company, she mentioned about the electricity
limitation which only allows them to run only two machine out of three they
had. While in 2010 they already able to run all of their machine and will
improve gradually its utilization to more than 80% (also mentioned in
prospectous).

Further about petrochemical business, my colleague explained, its spread
margin (product-raw material) would float on a cyclical trend. Almost all of
petrochemical products has more than 90% correlation to crude oil, while the
rest is dictate by the regional market supply/demand. And the only way to
improve the operating margin is only to operate at higher level of
production rate to spread the fixed cost and to be more efficient. Yes, this
is an economic of scale business that you have to run at high rate to gain
more profit.. That's why during down margin cycle in 2006-2008 it record a
negative earning since only running at even below 50% (check its last year
public expose). While they don't have to worry on the market since the
market can absorb whatever they produce.

3rd thing about its plastic sheet business which only contribute for less
than 10%, its production facility even much worse compared to its
Polyethylene, it only ran at below 40% (see last year public expose
material) before acquired by Titan, while in the near future it will improve
its operation by almost double. This would give significant impact on its
margin since this business is also a volume sensitive business...

About A+ bond rating from Fitch, I would rather see it due to its cash
convertion cycle, current/quick ratio, and its financial structure besides
its expansion plan...
Kang Bagus, pls share your numbers on this issue for FPNI compared to the
industry (TPIA, BRPT, or AKPI for its plastic sheet business). I have sense
that FPNI is leading way beyond its industry in terms of its cash
management. While in terms of business risk on the market side would be very
small while on the margin side would still depend on its expansion plan to
improve utilization both for Polyehtylene & plastic sheet business...

Yes Kang Bagus, pls share more on the numbers & your views on those numbers
to enlighten us..


T.o.m*



2010/4/9 Bagus Putra Perdana 
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