Re: [ob] Re: Short Selling, Today's trading Opportunity

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik H Gozali

IMHO,
bagi nb yang penting expert seperti mbah tetap kirim sinyal/peringatan.
soal bener ato salah itu semua masih wajar, mbah juga manusia.
selanjutnya ambil keputusan sendiri saja, kalo sinyal mbah sering bener, 
nggak ada salahnya dituruti,

kalo sering salah, ya, dibalik saja, short jadi long, long jadi short.
Kalo kadang bener, kadang salah, ya, diabaikan saja.

So, thanks a lot for your warning, mbah.

jsx_consultant wrote:

IHSG saat ini +36 tapi berapa banyak sih yg bisa menang
dengan posisi BELI mengingat tadi pagi IHSG naik terlalu cepat
(untuk saham BC yah).

Tapi coba SHORT , nanti kita analisa sesudah penutupan...



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyzÂŽ  wrote:
  

Sesi 2? yakin ntar malem DJI turun dalem?

Kalo yakin ntar sesi2 Dow fut merah and Eropa minus dalem, boleh-2 aja
nyuruh/rekomen orang untuk nge-short.
lha kalo ntar regional makin IJO, and eropa Plus banyak... apa pada ngga
gosong yg nge-short.

Salam,




2009/9/29 Elaine Sui 



*Embah tidak salah, cuma posting too early. I think you should've done it
on session 2.*

2009/9/29 Embah 


  

Salah sih biasa, engga usah maap maapan

Logika embah begini:
- Kemarin Bozz salah posisi karena ternyata DJI rebound.

Nah kalo Bozz udah salah posisi, biasanya dia mau mindahin kesalahannya
ama market, jadi SCENARIO akan seperti begini BIASANYA:
- Dia akan angkat IHSG secepat KILAT (3 menit IHSG +30) (ini sudah jadi
FAKTA)
- Trader terpaksa akan BELI HARGA ATAS karena index naik terlalu cepat
(ini juga FAKTA)

Sesudah itu baru trader DIKERJAIN (mindahin kesalahan kemarin ke market)
(ini belon
kejadian)

Sesudah trader dikerjain, baru diangkat lagi kalo memang rencananya mau
ngangkat.

IHSG naik lagi +34, BUMI 3275 dicolek lagi minta DISHORT





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*Subject:* RE: [ob] Re: Short Selling, Today's trading Opportunity



 Waduhhh, jgn Mbah, lagi mental di support jangan di Short..., mungkin
maksud Mbah untuk DAY TRADE ya ?..., kalau utk day trade sih OK.., tapi kalo
swing atau trend trading saya pikir kurang wise utk short, too close to
support level.., kalau supportnya JEBOL baru dah bisa kita short.., maap
kalo salah Mbah..

JT

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-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: 29 September 2009 9:36
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Re: Short Selling, Today's trading Opportunity

IHSG langsung naik +30 dalam 3 menit !!!

Ideal banget buat ngeshort...

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
wrote:



09:15
  
Short Selling, Today's trading Opportunity
  
- Dowjones rebound semalam dan biasanya IHSG akan ikut rebound.
  
- IHSG akan rebound sekitar 20 sampe 30 point lalu turun lagi
  
Gunakan momen ini sebagai:
  
1. Short Selling Opportunity, short saat IHSG mencapai puncaknya pagi
  
   ini, short saham saham yg lagi reversal (UP Fractal) seperti BUMI
  
2. Sell On strength opportunity
  
http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png
  
Note:
  
- Lebih mudah ngeshort dengan tenang pada puncak IHSG
  
  dari pada panik ngejar2 harga yg naik pagi ini.
  
- Kalo engga bisa short sell, nonton aja...
  

  

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[obrolan-bandar] TLKM

2007-12-12 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 please help, mbah & rekan-rekan lain.

Ada apa dengan TLKM ?
Di NYSE tutup lebih tinggi, malah di rumah sendiri dihajar.

 

[obrolan-bandar] etrade berpotensi bankrupt

2007-11-12 Terurut Topik H Gozali
Semalam lihat di Bloomberg harga eTrade turun tajam 5.xx menuju 3.5.
Analis-analis menyatakan e-Trade berpotensi bankrupt.

Bagi yang punya account di e-Trade harap waspada.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RAKSASA BHP BILLITON (PARTNER ANTM) MAU AKUISISI RAKSASA RIO TINTO

2007-11-11 Terurut Topik H Gozali
Just FYI,
Kebetulan belum lama ini Rusal berkunjung, dan sempat pula menanyakan soal 
proyek kerjasama-nya dengan ANTM. Mereka bilang masih studi analisa, hasil 
analisa kurang lebih 1 tahun lagi.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eka Suwandana 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RAKSASA BHP BILLITON (PARTNER ANTM) MAU 
AKUISISI RAKSASA RIO TINTO


  Iya proyek paling dekat ALUMINA konstruksi tahun depan
  ngak nambah banyak ke laba produksi mulai 2009-2010?
  Cuma saya perhatikan Nickel stabil dan gold menguat,
  jadi kalaupun jatuh ANTM nggak gawat lah! Jadi kalo
  ada koreksi besar wajib beli. Cuma utk trader jangan
  terlalu berharap banyak.
  nanti sudah 2010 ke atas ANTM ngeGAS lagi. AWESOME!

  --- Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  > See?...Pak Eka juga setuju sama saya hehehe...Itu
  > pertimbangannya 
  > apa pak sideway 2 thn kalo boleh tahu? Trims!
  > Kalo ptba gimana menurut anda, Pak? out juga buat yg
  > trading?
  > 
  > 
  > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana
  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > Utk yg trading harus keluar, utk yg long term
  > super
  > > longterm sampai 2010-2015 silakan. But ANTM will
  > be
  > > sideways for 2 years.
  > > 
  > > --- Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > 
  > > > Saya setuju pak, buat yg trading antm atau mau
  > get
  > > > out di "harga 
  > > > tertinggi" boleh siap2 keluar di level2 ini.
  > > > Tapi buat saya, kan ini buat tabungan hari tua
  > jadi
  > > > seperti yg anda 
  > > > katakan, "kita harus tetap strict pada trading
  > plan
  > > > kita" jadi ya 
  > > > saya akan tetap duduk manis. Toh uangnya juga
  > nggak
  > > > mau saya pakai 
  > > > utk beli yg lain. pak tbumi juga rasanya ada di
  > > > perahu yg sama dgn 
  > > > saya, yg lain2 nggak tahu deh. Godaan memang
  > > > banyak...apalgi untung 
  > > > saya di antm sekarang cukup utk beli mie goreng
  > 10
  > > > porsi hahaha... 
  > > > Tku Pak Terry atas nasehatnya.
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
  > > > TerryAstradika 
  > > >  wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > akhir perjalanan sudah dekat Pak Rei dan para
  > Long
  > > > Term yg lain, 
  > > > sepertinya kita sudah harus siap2 beberes koper,
  > > > ibarat naik kereta 
  > > > api, tujuan sudah hampir sampai, stasiun gubeng
  > > > sudah dekat, tidak 
  > > > bisa naik2 terus seperti ini, kemungkinan besar
  > > > sampai di atas 5000-
  > > > an pun akan terjadi (5rb, 6rb who knows?? --
  > wong
  > > > abis gubeng kan 
  > > > ada sta. semut..hehehe..), tapi kita harus tetap
  > > > strict pada 
  > > > tradingplan kita..trims.
  > > > > 
  > > > > sekedar mengingatkan.
  > > > > 
  > > > > ciao! salam cuan selalu..
  > > > > 
  > > > > Rei  wrote:
  > > > > Hehehe pak tbumi kayak badan
  > intelejen
  > > > antm aja. Tapi 
  > > > yg beliau ngomong ada benarnya, antm memang
  > saham
  > > > super bagus buat 
  > > > long term krn proyeknya banyak dan fundamental
  > kuat.
  > > > Sekarang lagi 
  > > > jadi star di film bikinan si Bozz, makanya mesti
  > > > "looks good" every 
  > > > day. Sampai Bozz filmnya selesai dan ganti
  > pemain.
  > > > > 
  > > > > kapanantmturun.com? cobal lihat
  > > > www.inyourdream.com
  > > > > heheheheJ/K pak Cat. Pasti nanti ada
  > koreksi
  > > > lah, kita 
  > > > tunggul tanggal mainnya saja.
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > Cleopatras Cat  wrote:
  > > > > plok plok plok. wakakakakaka ;-) sampe
  > mati
  > > > ANTM nih yeee 
  > > > aje gile juga Gott sekarang di korelasi kan
  > dengan
  > > > pasar modal 
  > > > segala hahaha 
  > > > > 
  > > > > kapanantmturun.com
  > > > > 
  > > > > "Bumi T."  schrieb: 
  > > > > Raksasa BHP Billiton mau akuisisi raksasa
  > Rio
  > > > Tinto. Raksasa 
  > > > tentu tidak mau kue kecil
  > > > > yang membuat perutnya tidak kenyang. Proyek
  > > > Ferro Nickel antara 
  > > > BHP Billiton dan ANTM
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > .
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > Ciao! Salam cuan selalu..
  > > > > Terry Astradika 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > > > 
  > > >
  > __
  > > > > Do You Yahoo!?
  > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
  > > > protection around 
  > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com
  > > > >
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  > > > 
  > > >
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > 



   

[obrolan-bandar] LME tin mulai merangkak naik

2007-07-27 Terurut Topik H Gozali
LME tin mulai merangkak naik 

last = 15.500

bid/ask = 15.450/15.550






[obrolan-bandar] Pajak Ekspor CPO

2007-07-11 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 Dengan semakin tingginya harga CPO, pemerintah menerapkan PE (Pajak Ekspor). 
Apakah PE ini sama seperti PPn, jadi bisa dikreditkan ? 


[obrolan-bandar] Rising LME Nickel Stocks May Embolden Shorts -ABN

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 
DJ MARKET TALK: Rising LME Nickel Stocks May Embolden Shorts -ABN 

 
0439 GMT [Dow Jones] Funds likely to become more friendly to shorting LME 
nickel if stocks continue to rise, which could make for sharp pullback, says 
ABN Amro; notes stocks at levels last reached July 2006, when price nearly half 
current level - but add inventories still "uncomfortably low," supply 
disruptions make short-selling risky. LME nickel stocks up another 504 tons 
overnight at 8,460 tons; ABN Amro attributes uptrend in stocks to reduced 
demand from stainless steel producers, China's lower nickel pig iron output. 
LME 3-month nickel last at $46,400/ton, +$250 vs London PM kerb. (MWL) 

 
Contact us in Singapore. 65 64154 140; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
(END) Dow Jones Newswires 

June 06, 2007 00:39 ET (04:39 GMT) 

Copyright (c) 2007 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. 


[obrolan-bandar] last stock LME nickel

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 NICKEL
last:8406  MT
change:  -54   
prev: 8460 
change: -0.64% 
in: 0  
out: 54
warrant: 7812
 cancel WR:  594   
time : 08:00  06Jun 07 London

[obrolan-bandar] nickel 3month <46K/MT Jun 06 06:46:50 waktu london

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 Jun 0606:52:38
COPPER SGEN7535.00/7545.00TRIL89.00/94.0006:41:20Jun 06Jun 0606:49:11
ALUMINIUM SEMP2790.00/2795.00TRIL-49.00/-44.0006:41:37Jun 06Jun 0606:49:30
ZINC SEMP3755.00/3775.00TRIL21.00/27.0006:41:22Jun 06Jun 0606:46:12
NICKEL SEMP 45700.00/ 45900.00 TRIL 2800.00/3000.000 6:43:47 Jun 06 Jun 06 
06:46:50
LEAD BACH2305.00/2315.00TRIL-2.00/3.0006:41:21Jun 06Jun 0606:46:32
TIN BACH13800.00/13900.00TRIL30.00/50.0006:41:22Jun 06Jun 0606:47:05
A.ALLOY BACH2210.00/2250.00ADMI-50.00/-30.0009:48:53May 23Jun 0606:47:08
NA. ALUMBACH2210.00/2250.00ADMI-50.00/-31.0009:47:58May 30 

[obrolan-bandar] DJ - Indonesia May Reserve Some Metals Production For Local Market

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 
DJ Indonesia May Reserve Some Metals Production For Local Market 

 
JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Indonesia may require mining companies to put aside a part 
of their production for the domestic market to ensure domestic supply at 
affordable prices, said Robert Tambunan, an official at Indonesia's Ministry of 
Energy and Mineral Resources. 

Tambunan is in charge of drafting contracts for mining investments. 

The requirement will ensure Indonesia has enough mineral deposits for domestic 
use and that soaring metal prices in global markets won't put metals such as 
nickel, copper and tin out of reach for ordinary consumers, he said. 

"Mining companies may be required to allocate a percentage of their 
(production) for the local market as a means of preventing local prices from 
skyrocketing," Tambunan said. 

A similar system is already in place for Indonesia's crude palm oil market to 
quell inflation fears as soaring palm oil prices have threatened to raise the 
price of staple cooking oil. 

Under the system, palm oil producers have to allocate part of their crude palm 
oil output for the local market while a government-set price has been imposed 
on cooking oil to prevent the staple from being priced outside the means of 
most Indonesians. 

The regulating system for the mining industry is currently being debated in 
parliament and will likely be part of the country's new mining laws, said 
Tambunan. 

Indonesia's proposed new mining laws, which have yet to be endorsed by 
parliament, have been at the center of much controversy. 

Mining companies have complained the new mining law may work against them. 

They fear the mining license system mandated under the proposed law will put 
control over their investments in the hands of largely inexperienced provincial 
governments. 

They want the current system, regulated by the central government, to continue. 

Mining companies have also complained that the content of the new mining laws 
lack clarity and prefer to wait until the legislation is passed before 
committing themselves to any major investment in Indonesia. 

Tuesday, Simon Sembiring, director general of coal and mineral resources at the 
Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources, was quoted in a Bloomberg report as 
saying the new mining laws may include provisions to rescind existing mining 
leases but Tambunan said such a move is unlikely as both the company and the 
Indonesian government are bound by contract terms. 

"We can't just take away concessions (from mining companies). Once a contract 
has been signed, all parties have to abide by the terms," said Tambunan. 

Concessions may only be revoked if mining companies fail to abide by the 
contract terms, for instance, by exceeding production quotas set in the 
company's contract, he added. 

 
   May Allow Companies To Exceed Production Quotas 
 
However, if the proposed price control scheme gets the green light, the 
Indonesian government may allow large metals producers such as state-owned PT 
Aneka Tambang Tbk. (ANTM.JK) and Freeport McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc.'s (FCX) 
Indonesian unit, to exceed their daily production quotas, in order to allow the 
Indonesian government to obtain the metal supplies it needs to maintain 
domestic market prices without disturbing the companies' existing contracts 
with buyers. 

Once Indonesia has obtained enough metal supply to cap possible price spikes on 
the domestic market, the company's original production quota would be 
re-imposed, Tambunan said. 

Many mining companies in Indonesia hold so-called offtake agreements with 
buyers who purchase most or all of the metals they produce. 

Indonesia, which is rich in copper, gold and nickel, has lagged behind other 
mineral-rich countries in luring foreign investment, and has mostly missed out 
on the current commodity boom as prices of metals such as nickel and tin scale 
new highs. 

Although it has sizable mineral resources - estimated at 6.7 billion tons - the 
country has developed no new major mines since the 1997-98 economic crisis. 

Indonesia hopes to attract $22 billion in mining investments a year but 
research by PricewaterhouseCoopers showed mining companies spent only $7 
million exploring new Indonesian deposits in 2005, a figure that has remained 
unchanged for the last five years. 

 
   -By Fawziah Selamat, Dow Jones Newswires; 62 21 3983 1277; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Reuben Carder contributed to this article) 
-Edited by Denny Kurien 

 
(END) Dow Jones Newswires 

June 06, 2007 00:18 ET (04:18 GMT) 

Copyright (c) 2007 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. 


[obrolan-bandar] RTRS-CITIGROUP RAISES LONG-TERM NICKEL PRICE FORECAST

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik H Gozali
18:11 05Jun2007 RTRS-CITIGROUP RAISES BHP BILLITON  TO BUY FROM HOLD, 
TARGETS 1,500P

18:12 05Jun2007 RTRS-CITIGROUP RAISES RIO TINTO  PRICE TARGET TO 4,250P 
FROM 3,800P; KEEPS BUY RATING

18:14 05Jun2007 RTRS-CITIGROUP RAISES LONG-TERM NICKEL  PRICE FORECAST TO 
$6 PER POUND FROM $4 PER POUND

18:43 05Jun2007 RTRS-RESEARCH ALERT-Citigroup raises long-term nickel price view

 

June 5 (Reuters) - Citigroup raised its long-term price view on nickel 
 by 50 percent to $6 per pound and upgraded UK miner BHP Billiton  
to "buy" from "hold".

The brokerage also raised its target prices on BHP Billiton to 1,500 pence 
from 1,250 pence and on Rio Tinto  to 4,250 pence from 3,800 pence.

The brokerage has a"buy" rating on Rio Tinto.

 (Reporting by Dhanya Skariachan in Bangalore)

 ((Editing by Anil Kumar; Reuters messaging: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; within U.S. +1 
646 223 8780; outside U.S. +91 80 4135 5800)) Keywords: BHPBILLITON/RESEARCH 
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[obrolan-bandar] LME Nickel Outlook Remains Positive;China Demand

2007-05-31 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 
DJ MARKET TALK: LME Nickel Outlook Remains Positive;China Demand 

0834 GMT [Dow Jones] LME nickel's long-term price outlook remains positive, 
partly due to a structural shortage of the metal, says Numis analyst John 
Meyer. Delays to development of new projects could lead to nickel deficits, 
thereby supporting prices, says Meyer. Moreover, "a Chinese minister recently 
stated that China's demand for nickel will rise to 400,000 tons in 2010 from a 
figure of 247,000 tons (in 2006)," says Meyer, adding that the growth in the 
Chinese stainless steel market has largely driven nickel demand growth. LME 
nickel trades at $47,400 a metric ton, up 1.6% from Wednesday. (LYT) 

 
Contact us in London. +44-20-7842-9413 
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May 31, 2007 04:34 ET (08:34 GMT) 

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[obrolan-bandar] Albidon has forward hedged 9,020 tonnes nickels

2007-05-31 Terurut Topik H Gozali
 
LONDON (Dow Jones)--Albidon said Thursday that it has forward hedged 9,020 
tonnes (164 tonnes per month) which represents less than 15% of the Munali 
project's expected payable nickel production and no more than 26% of payable 
nickel from production in any one year. 

The hedging commences in June 2009 which allows for full production ramp up 
from mid 2008 and provides exposure to the spot price of nickel for the first 
12 months of production. 

The hedge prices commence at $30,831 per tonne in mid 2009, stepping down in 
line with the forward curve to average $19,146 per tonne in 2013, for an 
average hedge price of $23,606 per tonne, the company said. 

These prices are substantially higher than those assumed in the Munali bankable 
feasibility study and the market consensus nickel price forecasts for the hedge 
period. It is also noted that research by Barclays Capital indicates that only 
5% of cash nickel prices observed since 1990 have been higher than D$20,750 
tonne and only 10% have been above $15,022 tonne. 

The company said it has completed the hedging agreements on very favourable 
terms. This level of hedging is modest and ensures the project is robust by 
locking in strong operating margins, while at the same time providing a high 
degree of exposure to upside in cash nickel prices. 

The production of the other payable metals from Munali is unhedged (copper, 
cobalt, platinum and palladium). 

 
(END) Dow Jones Newswires 

May 31, 2007 04:03 ET (08:03 GMT) 

Copyright (c) 2007 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. 


Re: Re[2]: [obrolan-bandar] pesaing CPRO DI TENDER DIPASENA

2007-05-22 Terurut Topik H Gozali
just sharing,

Pernah kejadian waktu Pemilu 2004, di mana tender kotak suara aluminium 
dimenangkan oleh bukan produsen aluminium, melainkan oleh trading company. 
Walaupun dalam prakteknya, setelah menang tender, si pemenang order ke si 
produsen aluminium yang kalah tender tsb (ALMI). Baik pemenang urutan 1 sampai 
buncit, semua order aluminium ke ALMI. Dan dengan sedikit bending 
(di-outsource-kan juga) jadilah kotak.

So, hati2, nuansa politis/KKN dan kekuatan "lobby" masih kental di bumi 
Indonesia ini. Fakta saja tidak cukup.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ALMI vs INAI

2007-05-02 Terurut Topik H Gozali
Yang benar ALMI dan INAI dibawah MASPION GROUP.
ALMI adalah perusahaan hulu maspion, jadi dia supply bahan baku ke maspion, 
khususnya yang aluminium kitchen ware, tapi sekarang produknya jauh lebih 
banyak untuk komsumsi export.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sharif Dayan 
  To: [obrolan-bandar] 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:09 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ALMI vs INAI


  Salam Sejahtera...

  Pada Rabu, 2 Mei 2007, Khongchakim menulis:

  > INGAT, perusahaan itu juga punya SAINGAN berat dari TAIWAN (pabriknya 
  > ada 5 di jatim) belum yang di TIONGKOK.

  Sekiranya tidak keliru, ALMI dan INAI di bawah payung Kelompok Lion. Saya 
membaca pada 
  sekitar 1 tahun silam bahwa beberapa pabriknya terpaksa ditutup karena 
beratnya 
  persaingan. Entah, bagaimana sekarang kabar keadaan keuangan mereka.

  Sharif Dayan
  di Palembang



   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ALMI vs INAI

2007-05-01 Terurut Topik H Gozali
ALMI dan INAI keduanya memang bergerak di bidang aluminium, tapi beda produk.

Produksi utama ALMI adalah aluminium sheet, circle, plate, foil alias 
produk-produk setengah jadi yang dijual ke pabrik/industri lain untuk diolah 
kembali menjadi barang jadi semacam kitchen ware, tutup botol, ac, printing, 
kemasan (obat, rokok, makanan) dsb, selain itu beberapa produk banyak digunakan 
untuk building construction. Sebagian besar produksinya untuk komsumsi ekspor. 

Produksi utama INAI adalah aluminium extrusion, fabrication yang banyak 
digunakan dalam proyek-proyek pembangunan gedung-gedung. Jadi kalau banyak 
pembangunan gedung/mall/kondo, berarti menambah market INAI.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Severn 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:37 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ALMI vs INAI



  ini gimana nih kan dua2 bergerak di bidang aluminium...
  kok kontrast banget ya nasibnya.

   

[obrolan-bandar] sorry, OOT - Fw: Aku Pernah Datang dan Aku Sangat Patuh {01}

2007-04-24 Terurut Topik H Gozali

- Original Message - 
From: Resia Marni 
To: Everyone Mailing List 
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: [Everyone] [indo-com] Aku Pernah Datang dan Aku Sangat Patuh {01}




AKU PERNAH DATANG DAN AKU SANGAT PATUH 

-

Kisah tentang seorang gadis kecil yang cantik yang memiliki sepasang bola mata 
yang indah dan hati yang lugu polos. Dia adalah seorang yatim piatu dan hanya 
sempat hidup di dunia ini selama delapan tahun. Satu kata terakhir yang ia 
tinggalkan adalah 'saya pernah datang dan saya sangat penurut'. 

Anak ini rela melepaskan pengobatan, padahal sebelumnya dia telah memiliki dana 
pengobatan sebanyak 540.000 dolar yang didapat dari perkumpulan orang Chinese 
seluruh dunia. Dia membagi dana tersebut menjadi tujuh bagian, yang dibagikan 
kepada tujuh anak kecil yang juga sedang berjuang menghadapi kematian, dan dia 
rela melepaskan pengobatannya. 

Begitu lahir dia sudah tidak mengetahui siapa orang tua kandungnya. Dia hanya 
memiliki seorang papa yang mengadopsinya. Papanya berumur 30 tahun yang 
bertempat tinggal di provinsi She Cuan kecamatan Suang Liu, kota Sang Xin Zhen 
Yun Ya Chun Er Cu. Karena miskin, maka selama ini ia tidak menemukan pasangan 
hidupnya. Kalau masih harus mengadopsi anak kecil ini, mungkin tidak ada lagi 
orang yang mau dilamar olehnya. 

Pada tanggal 30 November 1996, tgl 20 bln 10 imlek, adalah saat dimana papanya 
menemukan anak kecil tersebut diatas hamparan rumput, disanalah papanya 
menemukan seorang bayi kecil yang sedang kedinginan. Pada saat menemukan anak 
ini, di dadanya terdapat selembar kartu kecil tertulis, 20 November jam 12. 
Melihat anak kecil ini menangis dengan suara tangisannya sudah mulai melemah, 
papanya berpikir kalau tidak ada orang yang memperhatikannya, maka kapan saja 
bayi ini bisa meninggal. Dengan berat hati papanya memeluk bayi tersebut, 
dengan menghela nafas dan berkata, "Saya makan apa, maka kamu juga ikut apa 
yang saya makan". Kemudian papanya memberikan dia nama Yu Yuan. 

Ini adalah kisah seorang pemuda yang belum menikah yang membesarkan seorang 
anak, tidak ada ASI dan juga tidak mampu membeli susu bubuk, hanya mampu 
memberi makan bayi tersebut dengan air tajin (air beras). Maka dari kecil anak 
ini tumbuh menjadi lemah dan sakit-sakitan. Tetapi anak ini sangat penurut dan 
sangat patuh. Musim silih berganti, Yu Yuan pun tumbuh dan bertambah besar 
serta memiliki kepintaran yang luar biasa. Para tetangga sering memuji Yu Yuan 
sangat pintar walaupun dari kecil sering sakit-sakitan dan mereka sangat 
menyukai Yu Yuan. 

Ditengah ketakutan dan kecemasan papanya, Yu Yuan pelan-pelan tumbuh dewasa. Yu 
Yuan yang hidup dalam kesusahan memang luar biasa. Mulai dari umur lima tahun, 
dia sudah membantu papa mengerjakan pekerjaan rumah, mencuci baju, memasak 
nasi, dan memotong rumput. Setiap hal dia kerjakan dengan baik. Dia sadar dia 
berbeda dengan anak-anak lain. Anak-anak lain memiliki sepasang orang tua, 
sedangkan dia hanya memiliki seorang papa. Keluarga ini hanya mengandalkan dia 
dan papa yang saling menopang. Dia harus menjadi seorang anak yang penurut dan 
tidak boleh membuat papa menjadi sedih dan marah. Pada saat dia masuk sekolah 
dasar, dia sendiri sudah sangat mengerti, harus giat belajar dan menjadi juara 
di sekolah. Inilah yang bisa membuat papanya yang tidak berpendidikan menjadi 
bangga di desanya. 

Dia tidak pernah mengecewakan papanya, dia pun bernyanyi untuk papanya. Setiap 
hal yang lucu yang terjadi di sekolahnya diceritakan kepada papanya. 
Kadang-kadang dia bisa nakal dengan mengeluarkan soal-soal yang susah untuk 
menguji papanya. Setiap kali melihat senyuman papanya, dia merasa puas dan 
bahagia. Walaupun tidak seperti anak-anak lain yang memiliki mama, tetapi bisa 
hidup bahagia dengan papa, ia sudah sangat berbahagia. 

Mulai dari bulan Mei 2005 Yu Yuan mulai mengalami mimisan. Pada suatu pagi saat 
Yu Yuan sedang mencuci muka, ia menyadari bahwa air cuci mukanya sudah penuh 
dengan darah yang ternyata berasal dari hidungnya. Dengan berbagai cara tidak 
bisa menghentikan pendarahan tersebut sehingga papanya membawa Yu Yuan ke 
puskesmas desa untuk disuntik. Tetapi sayangnya dari bekas suntikan itu juga 
mengeluarkan darah dan tidak mau berhenti. Di pahanya mulai bermunculan 
bintik-bintik merah. Dokter tersebut menyarankan papanya untuk membawa Yu Yuan 
ke rumah sakit untuk diperiksa. Begitu tiba di rumah sakit, Yu Yuan tidak 
mendapatkan nomor karena antrian sudah panjang. Yu Yuan hanya bisa duduk 
sendiri di kursi yang panjang untuk menutupi hidungnya.

Darah yang keluar dari hidungnya bagaikan air yang terus mengalir dan memerahi 
lantai. Karena papanya merasa tidak enak kemudian mengambil sebuah baskom kecil 
untuk menampung darah yang keluar dari hidung Yu Yuan. Tidak sampai sepuluh 
menit, baskom yang kecil tersebut sudah penuh berisi darah yang keluar dari 
hidung Yu Yuan. Dokter yang melihat keadaan ini cepat-cepat membawa Yu Yuan 
untuk dipe

Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO 1 lot 2 jt merem !!

2007-04-16 Terurut Topik H Gozali
bagi deviden 2 juta, tapi harga juga turun sekitar 2 juta, jadi kurang lebih 
impas, tidak ada penambahan harta

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ari 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] INCO 1 lot 2 jt merem !!


  bentar lagi 500 lembar x deviden 4000 perak 

  -Original Message-
  From: "helmi setiawan"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: 4/17/07 4:02:23 AM
  To: "obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com"
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun
  Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
  siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.

  mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..


  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Josia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > AALI
  > UNSP
  > TBLA
  > LSIP
  >








   

[obrolan-bandar] harga CPO pengiriman June nanjak terus

2007-04-15 Terurut Topik H Gozali
http://ifs.marketcenter.com/charts/charts.jsp?cID=AGMAS&iFSsymbols=MPO%20M7-BMD

[obrolan-bandar] a survey showing a jump in business activity in the U.S. Midwest [nN30289877] and an above forecast rise in U.S. construction actvity [nN29206776]

2007-04-01 Terurut Topik H Gozali
LONDON, March 30 (Reuters) - Copper climbed to a 16-week high on Friday 
after confidence about higher Chinese demand in the second quarter was 
bolstered by stronger economic data from the United States.
Generally higher base metals prices and optimism on stock markets helped 
boost London-listed miners such as Rio Tinto , Kazakhmys  and 
Vedanta , which all ended up around one percent.
Copper  for three-month delivery on the London Metal Exchange touched 
$6,935 a tonne, the highest since December 12, after the U.S. data and ended up 
at $6,860 from $6,755 a tonne at the close on Thursday.
Prices have risen around 30 percent since hitting a 10-month low of $5,250 
in early February.
"The main driver over the next few weeks is going to be evolving views on 
economic growth and particularyly any data points that come out of the United 
States," said Adam Rowley, analyst at Macquarie Bank.
"Chinese demand is providing a real offset to the weakness in the United 
States."
Sentiment in base metals markets has recently, intermittently, been subdued 
by weak housing and economic growth data from the United States and concern 
about recession.
But on Friday a survey showing a jump in business activity in the U.S. 
Midwest [nN30289877] and an above forecast rise in U.S. construction actvity 
[nN29206776] boosted the market, which shrugged off weaker consumer sentiment. 
[nN30247313]
VOLATILITY STRIKES
Copper trading this week has been volatile as investors squared or 
repositioned their books ahead of the end of the quarter, but perceptions of 
stronger demand from China, the world's biggest consumer, have dominated the 
mood.
That was reinforeced by a senior official of China Minmetals, who on 
Thursday said Chinese demand was expected to grow 21 percent to between 4.5 
million and 4.7 million tonnes by 2010 from 2006. [ID:nN29251203]
"China's trade deficit in copper is widening highlighting strong underlying 
demand," Deutsche Bank said in a note.
Volatility also struck tin. Tin hit a record high of $14,595 a tonne on 
Tuesday on worries about supplies from Indonesia, the world's second largest 
producer, which last October closed illegal smelters.
Prices then tumbled as investors took profits on market talk that Indonesia 
had or was about to grant more export permits on top of the two it has already 
issued.
But analysts expect a tight market over coming weeks to buoy prices and 
possibly push them to new records.
"There were some reports that another Indonesian smelter has been given a 
permit to restart," a trader said. "But the other thing is that tin rose so 
quickly, there was bound to be a correction."
Tin  ended at $13,400 against $13,250 on Thursday, while zinc  
added $5 to $3,255.
"Zinc has been one of the weaker metals over the last couple of months," 
Rowley said, adding that had been because of investors taking profits by 
selling their holdings.
"What we are starting to see is a tightening zinc market. It looks as if 
some consumers are coming back and we also believe Chinese exports are slowing."
Aluminium  ended unchanged at $2,780, lead  was up $5 at $1,920 
and nickel  gained to $44,800 Thursday's last quote at $43,850/44,000.

[obrolan-bandar] RTRS-UPDATE 1-S.Korea seeks metals on tight warehouse

2007-03-23 Terurut Topik H Gozali
16:17 23Mar2007 RTRS-UPDATE 1-S.Korea seeks metals on tight warehouse
stocks

(Recasts, adds comment and table)
SEOUL, March 23 (Reuters) - South Korea is actively buying
industrial metals such as aluminium and copper due to tight
state-controlled stockpiles.
The country's state-run Public Procurement Services issued a tender
on Friday to buy 5,000 tonnes of copper cathode.
The PPS is also seeking 5,000 tonnes of primary aluminium ingot, 120
tonnes of tin ingot and 300 tonnes of nickel cathodes.
"Inventories have fallen to low level as we did not buy enough
metals last year, alarmed by rocketing prices," said an official at the
agency.
The PPS, responsible for building reserve stockpiles of 16 types of
raw materials for local small and medium-sized companies, usually
focuses on buying metals when global prices are low and releasing them
when prices are high to help ease the pressure on industry from rising
prices.
"Metal prices are still high but we cannot delay the purchase of
metals forever. We will rebuild stocks this year."
The agency already bought 11,000 tonnes of copper cathode, 9,000
tonnes of primary aluminium ingot and 4,000 tonnes of zinc so far this
year.
The country plans to raise its raw material purchases for reserves -
mainly non-ferrous metals - by 54 percent to 500 billion won ($532.7
million) in 2007.
It did not give the detailed amount of purchases for each raw
material.
Last year, it only spent 324 billion won on industrial metals.
The PPS has four warehouses located at the ports of Inchon, Pusan,
Mokpo and Kunsan, and has provided metals to small-sized companies with
prices 3 to 5 percent lower than market prices.
Details of tenders scheduled next week as follows:

  -- COPPER CATHODE (MARCH 29)
TONNE  ORIGIN SHIPMENT   PORT
3,000  Optional   May 15 Inchon
2,000  Optional   May 31 Inchon
-- TIN INGOT (MARCH 29)
TONNE  ORIGIN PORT
20 Optioanl   Pusan
80 Optional   Inchon
20 Optional   Pusan
* Delivery is scheduled to take place within a month of receiving a
letter of credit
-- NICKEL CATHODE (MARCH 29)
TONNE  ORIGIN PORT
50 Optional   Pusan
50 Optional   Inchon
* Delivery is scheduled to take place within a month of receiving a
letter of credit
-- NICKEL CATHODE (MARCH 26)
TONNE  ORIGIN PORT
100Optional   Pusan
100Optional   Inchon
* Delivery is scheduled to take place within a month of receiving a
letter of credit
-- ALUMINIUM INGOT (MARCH 28)
TONNE  ORIGIN   SHIPMENT PORT
2,000  Non-Western  May 16   Inchon
1,000  Non-Western  June 20  Inchon
1,000  Western  April 18 Pusan
1,000  Western  May 16   Inchon
($1=938.6 won)
((Reporting by Kang Shinhye, editing by Ben Tan; Reuters
Messaging: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; +82 2
3704-5651))

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM

2007-03-12 Terurut Topik H Gozali
perkecualian untuk tgl 28 Feb 07

  - Original Message - 
  From: Arthoer 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM



  bagi yg ketinggalan antm, bisa dilihat chart berikut
  berdasarkan kejadian2 sebelumnya, hari kedua ada koreksi...

  maaf kalo salah..



- Original Message - 
From: Rei 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM



Pak Oentoeng,

Ini antm sudah mulai dipasangin "lampu teplok" ya? Tapi  masih sedap utk 
ditarik kayaknya 

Salam,
Rei 

oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Kalau sudah BEGINI bagaimana?
  ANTM sdh melewati ROUND NUMBER!?
  Pasti masih banyak yg bingung, ntar sudah 11.000 rebu LEBIH pun 
  lebih banyak lagi yg bingung, kemana semua PENYAKIT2 itu?

  Di bursa nggak baik sering bingung, harusnya sering CUAN ya nggak?
  Hehehe

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Steven Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >
  > Pak Oen,
  > kalau ngeliat ANTM kemarin, kira-kira minggu depan nasibnya 
  bagaimana ya 
  > pak?
  > Kok kaya berat bener naiknya, digigitin DemamBerdarah melulu 
  sampai monyot.
  > Kira-kira target tembus round number bisa tercapai nggak nih pak? 
  Butuh 
  > berapa lama kira-kira? Atau sekarang sudah saatnya profit taking 
  dulu? 
  > Sorry banyak tanya, maklumlah, newbie.
  > Thanks untuk wejangan suhu.
  > 
  > Rgrds.
  >







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tip buat HOTS user disaat RAMAI

2007-03-08 Terurut Topik H Gozali
bukannya ADSL juga termasuk kelas broadband dan sifatnya bandwidth 
sharingcmiimw

  - Original Message - 
  From: jsx_consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:23 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tip buat HOTS user disaat RAMAI


  Cable broadband mirip jalan TOLL, pipa PAM, cable listrik yang
  dipakai RAME RAME, jadi speednya tergantung jumlah PEMAKAI...

  ADSL mirip jalan PRIBADI, yg pakai cuman KITA SENDIRI, tapi
  TELKOM ADSL juga punya limit bandwidth totalnya buat sambungan
  keluar negri dan dalam negri...

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Eddy S. Purnomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >
  > 
  > Mbah, Saya pake cable broad band, harusnya speednya tidak masalah, 
  tapi pada kenyataanya pada pagi hari tetap saja data HOTS laggin 
  sekitar 3 menit. Jadi saya kira masalahnya yang utama ada di HOTSnya 
  pada saat feeding. Data baru bisa sinkron setelah running trade 
  berjalan 15 menit dengan pengejaran yang lagging.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: jsx_consultant 
  > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:00 AM
  > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tip buat HOTS user disaat RAMAI
  > 
  > 
  > Pak Edy, 
  > Sebenarnya MASALAH GANGNGUAN KOMUNIKASI ini ruwet banget karena
  > siBOZZ bisa 'MENGENDALIKAN' jaringan internet, jadi bukan
  > masalah SPEED saja...
  > 
  > Provider ENGGA USAH diganti tapi DITAMBAH buat backup kalo
  > internet salah satu provider macet...
  > 
  > Contoh:
  > - Pagi ini SPEEDY embah mulai diganggu, ini TANDANYA si BOZZ
  > lagi punya MISI PAGI INI .
  > - Gangguan internet ini bisa MASAL atau ditujukan pada PRIBADI,
  > embah sih udah BOSAN jadi DAILY TO (TARGET OPERASI). Makanya 
  > embah ampe punya 6 pilihan provider untuk menghadapi gangguan
  > siBOZZ... (engga usah disebut dah ...RAHASIA)
  > 
  > Pesan buat BOZZ:
  > - Bertandinglah SECARA JANTAN, Are you CHICKEN ? yg bunyinya
  > PETOK... PETOK... KEOK
  > - BOZZ, Tebak gua lagi pake ISP mana ?, Meskipun SPEEDY embah
  > eloe bikin mati, embah masih bisa posting saat ini... 
  > 
  > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy"  
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > Masalahnya kayanya bukan dari speedy Mbah.
  > > PC embah download data dari server etrading.
  > > Server etrading upload data untuk user. Nah bandwith upload 
  server 
  > etradingnya itu yg kecil. Makin banyak user, makin lelet dia dan 
  > akhirnya karena delay sudah terlalu besar nggak nyambung lagi 
  > infonya. 
  > > Jadi ane kira ganti provider nggak akan membantu, karena 
  masalahnya 
  > bukan di situ.
  > > 
  > > - Original Message - 
  > > From: jsx_consultant 
  > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:54 AM
  > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tip buat HOTS user disaat RAMAI
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Sebenarnya HOTS itu SANGAT EFISIEN dengan bandwidth, jadi 
  koneksi
  > > internet lewat handphone juga sudah CUKUP. Tapi dalam keadaan
  > > bursa BERGEJOLAK, trader secara POTENTIAL bisa mendapat 
  keuntungan
  > > besar dalam waktu SEKEJAP. Jadi trader yang punya koneksi online
  > > seperti HOT akan diuntungkan.
  > > 
  > > Tapi karena INI adalah masalah doeit dan bukan sumbangan 
  > > sosial atau derma, maka trader HARUS DIGANGGU, yaitu dengan
  > > jalan misalnya membom jaringan komunikasi dengan packet data
  > > SEMU atau BOONGAN.
  > > 
  > > Saat ini koneksi internet yang baik untuk trader ialah ADSL 
  > > SPEEDY, tapi kalo lagi DIGANGGU maka delay RUNNING TRADE pada
  > > SPEEDY bisa mencapai 5 menit meskipun RUNNING TRADE nya
  > > dimatikan. Makanya embah kasih TIP untuk EXIT dari HOTS lalu
  > > masuk LAGI karena mematikan RUNNING TRADE yang udah terlambat
  > > 5 menit dibanding jam arloji TIDAK MENOLONG...
  > > 
  > > Tapi dari kejadian kemarin, embah perhatikan HOTS punya 2 
  koneksi
  > > keserver BEJ, karena pada saat RUNNING TRADE dan BID-OFFER 
  ngaco 
  > > karena communication link Etrading ke BEJ PUTUS, embah masih 
  > > bisa TRANSAKSI secara ONLINE dikegelapan. Artinya etrading 
  punya 
  > > JALUR KHUSUS buat TRANSAKSI NASABAH dan JALUR LAIN buat DATA 
  > MARKET.
  > > 
  > > Embah perhatikan JALUR DATA MARKET INI yang SERING DIGANGGU, 
  > DIBOM,
  > > DIPUTUSKAN dll...
  > > 
  > > Kapasitas bandwidth berapa yg cukup ?. Speedy dengan bandwidth
  > > 384 kbps saja masih delay 5 menit kalo lagi DIGANNGU...
  > > 
  > > Embah malah mau tanya, Indosat kan lagi menawarkan paket 
  internet 
  > 3G
  > > dengan biaya langgana 350k/bln untuk 1 giga byte data dan 
  alatnya 
  > > (HUA HWEI seharga 1,5 juta dipinjemin). Ada yang udah coba BUAT 
  > > HOTS engga ?. Gimana speednya kemaren saat SPEEDY delay 5 
  menit ?.
  > > 
  > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Oskar Syahbana" 
  > >  wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Mbah, tau ga yah kira-kira bandwith yang nyaman ketika order 
  > lagi 
  > > ramai ini
  > > > berapa Kbps?
 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tip buat HOTS user disaat RAMAI

2007-03-08 Terurut Topik H Gozali
Kalau mau jalankan HOTS langsung di Handphone, harus pake merk/type apa, ya?


  - Original Message - 
  From: jsx_consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 7:54 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tip buat HOTS user disaat RAMAI


  Sebenarnya HOTS itu SANGAT EFISIEN dengan bandwidth, jadi koneksi
  internet lewat handphone juga sudah CUKUP. Tapi dalam keadaan
  bursa BERGEJOLAK, trader secara POTENTIAL bisa mendapat keuntungan
  besar dalam waktu SEKEJAP. Jadi trader yang punya koneksi online
  seperti HOT akan diuntungkan.

  Tapi karena INI adalah masalah doeit dan bukan sumbangan 
  sosial atau derma, maka trader HARUS DIGANGGU, yaitu dengan
  jalan misalnya membom jaringan komunikasi dengan packet data
  SEMU atau BOONGAN.

  Saat ini koneksi internet yang baik untuk trader ialah ADSL 
  SPEEDY, tapi kalo lagi DIGANGGU maka delay RUNNING TRADE pada
  SPEEDY bisa mencapai 5 menit meskipun RUNNING TRADE nya
  dimatikan. Makanya embah kasih TIP untuk EXIT dari HOTS lalu
  masuk LAGI karena mematikan RUNNING TRADE yang udah terlambat
  5 menit dibanding jam arloji TIDAK MENOLONG...

  Tapi dari kejadian kemarin, embah perhatikan HOTS punya 2 koneksi
  keserver BEJ, karena pada saat RUNNING TRADE dan BID-OFFER ngaco 
  karena communication link Etrading ke BEJ PUTUS, embah masih 
  bisa TRANSAKSI secara ONLINE dikegelapan. Artinya etrading punya 
  JALUR KHUSUS buat TRANSAKSI NASABAH dan JALUR LAIN buat DATA MARKET.

  Embah perhatikan JALUR DATA MARKET INI yang SERING DIGANGGU, DIBOM,
  DIPUTUSKAN dll...

  Kapasitas bandwidth berapa yg cukup ?. Speedy dengan bandwidth
  384 kbps saja masih delay 5 menit kalo lagi DIGANNGU...

  Embah malah mau tanya, Indosat kan lagi menawarkan paket internet 3G
  dengan biaya langgana 350k/bln untuk 1 giga byte data dan alatnya 
  (HUA HWEI seharga 1,5 juta dipinjemin). Ada yang udah coba BUAT 
  HOTS engga ?. Gimana speednya kemaren saat SPEEDY delay 5 menit ?.

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Oskar Syahbana" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > Mbah, tau ga yah kira-kira bandwith yang nyaman ketika order lagi 
  ramai ini
  > berapa Kbps?
  > 
  > On 3/7/07, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > >
  > > 9:50
  > >
  > > Tip buat HOTS user disaat RAMAI
  > >
  > > Pada saat ramai, traffic data lebih besar daripada kapasitas
  > > kanal bandwidth internet anda. JAM arloji anda bisa berbeda
  > > jauh tertinggal dengan JAM pada running trade.
  > >
  > > Untuk itu anda bisa mempertimbangkan EXIT dari HOTS lalu
  > > masuk lagi dengan JAM yang sama lagi...
  > >
  > > Note:
  > > - Buat developer HOTS dan BEJ, mungkin anda harus menambah 
  fasilitas
  > > untuk memfilter DATA yg tidak perlu yang SENGAJA dikirimkan
  > > keserver BEJ (data ini bisa 'tidak telihat' seperti BOMBING
  > > ORDER pada harga yg JAUH dari harga done). Data ini dikirim
  > > untuk menggangu LAWAN/trader yg saluran internetnya lambat...
  > >
  > > 
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > -- 
  > Oskar Syahbana
  > http://permagnus.com/ -- A Financial site with a human touch
  > Please send private messages to iservasia[at]gmail.com
  >



   

[obrolan-bandar] Fw: Europe nickel premiums at record highs, near top

2007-03-08 Terurut Topik H Gozali
Subject: Europe nickel premiums at record highs, near top


By Anna Stablum
LONDON, March 8 (Reuters) - Nickel prices have set successive highs
on the London Metal Exchange and a shortage of metal is pushing European
physical spot premiums into uncharted territory.
But the record high physical premiums may be nearing their top as
demand is likely to ease in the second half of the year, analysts and
traders said on Thursday.
"We have never seen anything like it...it could go higher in the
short term but lower in the medium term," a physical trader said.
Merchants pegged the premium for uncut nickel cathode at record
highs of $400/600 per tonne above the cash price  versus $350/450
at the end of January.
"The premiums are close to the top...people are struggling to
buy...but soon more material will become available," the trader said.
Four-by-fours were at around $900/1,200 and briquettes, which were
scarce, were at some $1,200/2,000, or double the levels seen at the end
of 2006, traders said.
On Thursday three-month nickel  hit an all-time high of
$43,200, with prices trippling during the past year.
"The funds could probably push it to $50,000 for cash," the trader
said.
By 1236 GMT cash nickel  was at $44,800 and the three-month
price was indicated at $42,900/42,905, up $900 against its last quote on
Wednesday.
Traders said the rally had been bolstered by short-covering.
"We don't see any business, it is a fund explosion -- all very
tecnical
-- and it could go higher," a physical trader said.
Prices were underpinned by supply disruptions, project delays, low
LME stocks and brisk demand, analysts said.
Available stocks of nickel stand at 2,214 tonnes in LME warehouses,
just over half a day of global consumption.
A year ago total LME warehouse stocks amounted to 34,794 tonnes, of
which only 10 percent now remain.
"In nickel, extreme nearby tightness means that price spikes to even
higher levels cannot be ruled out in the near term," Standard Bank said
in a monthly report.
The backwardation reflected the tight market at $2,505, up from $675
at the beginning of the year.
DEMAND TO SUFFER
About two-thirds of world nickel output is used to make stainless
steel and analyst Tariq Salaria at Standard Chartered Bank said in a
report production of stainless was slowing.
"Stainless steel prices have started to display signs of a modest
decline in the second quarter," Salaria said.
Standard Bank saw scope for the market to move back to balance later
in the year as demand would be hit by substitution and higher exports of
stainless steel from Asia that could threaten production cuts in Europe.
Chinese stainless output grew by 68 percent last year and the bank
expected a similar growth rate in 2007 lifting exports.
Also, the trend of stainless steel mills substituting primary and
secondary nickel with low-nickel pig iron was seen  displacing about
50,000-60,000 tonnes of Chinese demand in 2007, from about half that
amount in 2006.
"Finally, there are signs of a renewed push by European and Asian
stainless mills to promote low-nickel or nickel-free grades of steel,"
the report said.
Standard Bank forecast a cash price  of $34,610 in 2007,
falling to $26,000 in 2008.
To see prices, Reuters Terminal users can double-click with the
mouse on the code in brackets .
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  Keywords: MARKETS EUROPE PHYSICAL METALS REPORT





[obrolan-bandar] LME News

2007-03-08 Terurut Topik H Gozali
LONDON, March 8 (Reuters) - London copper futures jumped 3.1 percent
on Thursday as confidence returned to equity markets and investors
concentrated again on supply and demand, analysts said.
London Metal Exchange copper for delivery in three months 
traded as high as $6,330 per tonne and ended the official session at
$6,260, up $120 from Wednesday's close.
"What happened on the stock markets looks like a correction rather
than a sea change, so we are back to where we were," a trader on the LME
floor said. "China, the biggest buyer, has not gone away in the past
week."
Analysts at Standard Bank said metals were recovering as the
shockwaves of the recent global selloff subside.
"Copper and zinc have suffered a similar fate in the early months of
2007; an overly aggressive technical sell-off. As forecast, they are
both now in recovery mode, and we believe we have now seen the lows for
these metals for this year," the bank said in a market report.
"For copper prices, we see plenty of support going forward and the
potential for upside surprises."
Copper was badly knocked when investors sold risky assets including
commodities in the worldwide sell-off of last week and earlier this
week, but has recovered by more than $500 since Tuesday.
Steelmaking raw material nickel  extended its sequence of
hitting new highs, this time touching $43,200, before ending the session
at a quote of $42,950/43,000.
French metals group Eramet , which reported a 60 percent
rise in operating income at its nickel division, described current
prices as "speculative and vulnerable to any slowing of demand"
[ID:nL08418614].
Still, with the past week's global flight from risk apparently over,
investors will once again turn their attention to an underlying picture
of tight supply and strong demand, UBS head of base metals strategy John
Reade said in a note.
"With risk aversion less of a factor we expect the tight
supply/demand fundamentals to come to the fore ahead of the onset of the
peak demand season and for higher prices to reflect this," he said.
The FTSE index of 100 shares <.FTSE> was 0.95 percent higher by
early afternoon in London, with mining stocks such as Anglo American
 and BHP Billiton  leading the way.
Zinc  was up $10 at $3,370 and aluminium  was $10 lower
at $2,720.
Tin  was $50 higher at $13,650 while lead  slipped $10
to $1,840.
(Additional reporting by Alfred Cang in Shanghai)