Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS [What is wrong]
Ya kan udah beberapa hari naek jadi koreksi dululah ngasih kesempatan buat yg lom ngumpulin. Lagian gasnya udh abis, lagi nungguin yang nganter :-) Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[obrolan-bandar] hard landing
okay everybody, please take your seat belt... we're gonna get hard landing --- James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: time to short again on agri for 2 weeks On 1/15/08, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: carefull on cpo NEW YORK TIMES today wrote: In a sign of growing concern about the impact of supposedly green policies, European Union officials will propose a ban on imports of certain biofuels, according to a draft law to be unveiled next week. The ban would primarily affect palm oil and possibly the Latin American imports. If approved by European governments, the law would prohibit the importation of fuels derived from crops grown on certain kinds of land, including forests, wetlands or grasslands, into the 27-nation bloc. HERE IS THE LINK: * http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/business/worldbusiness/15biofuel.html?ref= *http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/15/business/worldbusiness/15biofuel.html?ref=business OUR ANALYST, TING MIN TAN, SAYS: - If EU were to ban palm-biodiesel, there could be a knee-jerk impact on plantation stock prices but fundamentally, this measure will have a minimal impact on underlying demand for palm oil. Any weakness in plantation share prices is an opportunity to buy. - This is because vegetable oils are substitutes of each other. Hence, if palm-biodiesel is banned, palm oil will still be imported into the EU as food. Vegetable oil prices move in tandem with one another, and as long as EU moves ahead with its biofuel policies, veg oil inventories will continue to be drawn down, and this will support palmoil prices. - EU is the second largest importer of palm oil in the world (after China) and the bulk of its ends up in food; it imports some 5mn tonnes or 13-14%% of global CPO production. - The Roundtable for Sustainable Palm Oil (RSPO) has been set up to address the sustainability issues. The RSPO will get an audit ready to issue certification for plantation companies which adopt environmentally-friendly practices. The large Malaysian and Indonesian plantation companies are all members of RSPO and are generally complaint. - We wrote an entire report on sustainability in Sept-2007. The report is attached. *Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/cfutures.html Commodity Futures UBS Bloomberg CMCI INDEX NAME VALUE CHANGE OPEN HIGH LOW TIME UBS BLOOMBERG CMCI 1349.24 17.92 1345.02 1355.16 1343.43 16:03 SP GSCI 615.28 9.44 609.78 616.42 607.90 01/14 RJ/CRB Commodity 370.22 5.07 365.15 370.96 365.15 01/14 Rogers Intl 4541.70 66.32 4506.69 4563.78 4475.38 17:36 Brookshire Intl 499.54 7.42 496.90 499.80 495.31 17:12 Happy chuan, Aria -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sriwisnu-gmail *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:07 AM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Palm Oil naik terus - buat pertimbangan yang belum beli CPO's Stocks *14.01.2008 - Closing Crude Palm Oil Quotes:* Closing CPO futures prices on Bursa Malaysia Derivatives in MYR/ton *Month* *Close* *Previous* *Change* *High* *Low* Jan '08 3360 3270 *up 90* 3360 3320 Feb '08 3410 3279 *up 131* 3410 3320 *Mar '08* *3414* *3280* *up 134* *3420* *3318* Apr '08 3405 3274 *up 131* 3413 3313 May '08 3400 3276 *up 124* 3401 3306 Trading volume totaled 19,530 lots Monday up from 15,261 lots on Friday. Open interest totaled 42,015 lots, up from 40,830 lots. *14.01.2008 - Midday Closing Crude Palm Oil Quotes:* Midday Closing CPO futures prices on Bursa Malaysia Derivatives in MYR/ton *Month* *Close* *Previous* *Change* *High* *Low* Jan '08 3320 3270 *up 50* 3320 3320 Feb' 08 3330 3279 *up 51* 3337 3320 *Mar '08* *3331* *3280* *up 51* *3342* *3318* Apr '08 3325 === message truncated === Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones
lha wong waktunya koreksi ya koreksilah Lagian udah beberapa hari terakhir ini BEI berusaha untuk jadi jagoan neon ... Tenaga lama2 juga abis Klo udh begini bisa turun 200 - 300 poin --- Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada money/funds outflows hari ini plus kebetulan Regional mere kabeh - beberapa sector/industry/class terjadi outflows mulai kemaren [i.e.infra, bankings] - setelah masup money/funds inflows beberapa lama [sejak awal Jan] ini _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:16 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones Benar juga pak dgn ungkapan memicu macan keluar dari kandang huehehehe Jumlah anggota OB 5rb-an org, dan kesaktian Mbah sdh terbukti berkali2 so dgn adanya prediksi Mbah hari ini bhw bursa akan turun ke 2400-2450 dalam 2 bulan (2 BULAN lho bukan 2 hari! :p), mungkin banyak yg overreactive. Normal2 saja, index sdh tinggi itu membuktikan Mbah emang banyak pemerhatinya alias fans! hehehe... I am one of them. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Mince nensi Nensi Mince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kayak nya ini gara2 EMBAH yg bilang INDEX mau ke 2.400-2.500... banyak yg panic selling sore ini.. padahal EROPA di buka ngak jelek2 banget... dan ASIA ngak dalem2 amir itu sebelum kita merah dalem. kayak nya BEI yg pimpin bursa asia jadi MERAH DALEM.. dari REGIONAL/GLOBAL ngak ada ISU/RUMOR yg bisa di jadikan alesan untk BALAPAN TURUN di mana2 bursa NAIK/TURUN itu biasa tapi klu gini khan memicu MACAN KELUAR DARI KANDANG UNTK SARAPAN. hehehehe.. salam cash 100% SPECIAL THANKS FOR CLUB BEAR - Forwarded Message From: oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:04:38 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones Hahaha... Yang jelas gue KAGAK PERNAH bilang benci ama ente lho... Special TLKM, jauh hari saya bilang akan NYUNGSEP, malah ngasih saran kalau target riset CS di 9650 tercapai supaya AVRG DOWN supaya cepat keluar jadi investor kacilakaan. Kalau taget BOZZ yg saya tahu utk sementara adalah 9200-an dan sudah tercapai HARI INI. Peluang TLKM untuk jatuh LEBIH DALEM mestinya masih memungkinkan. Alasannya indeks kita khan masih tinggi, btw secara TA, OBV keliatan banget kalau kayak digelontor air BAH... Kalau anda pengen nunggu harga 7-8K berarti PLANNED AGENDA mau menggiring indeks ke 2000 berarti akan BERJALAN BETULAN!? Smell blood gimana? Bagi yg pegang SOBI hari ini malah bukan bau ANYIR malah HARUM Buat yg pegang 100% CASH malah senyum2... Sedangkan yg BERDARAH2 berarti mereka lupa dengan FA. Bahwa kebanyakan TARGET maupun FAIR VALUE terutama BC sudah pada TERCAPAI...terus mo NGAPAIN LAGI? Khan LEBIH ASYIK kalau dibuat turun, tambah DALEM tambah ASYIK. Biar harga2 mereka menjAdi LEBIH MENARIK dan ATTRAKTIF Ya nggak? Kalem aja Btw, obrolan di antara kita nggak usah ancam2an atau emosi segala. Khan sudah sama2 tahu, biar lebih asyik gitu lho... Salam --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine orkaybgt@ . wrote: *Let's talk about this unreal business... :) I smell blood, and it's not mine. Now I ask for your comment. What is going on in the market... what did you do with TLKM? :D Clearly everyone HATES me so much, so maybe they'll listen to you. No, they hate me cuz they've LISTENED to me..lol... sorry.. just kidding.. I'm ready to have it at 7K-8K. === message truncated === Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones
Gak sampai 2400, cukup 2500-an. Indeks kan juga pernah seperti hari ini kejadiannya. Saya lupa, kalau gak salah waktu menyentuh level tertinggi sekitar 2700-an, indeks koreksi sampai level 2500. --- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo sehari index turun 100 point, berarti ihsg 2400 akan dicapai dalam 3 hari. ENGGA SEPERTI itu lah... Masih ada 2 bulan lagi, buat SWING TRADING --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Indrawati\(Iin\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lha wong waktunya koreksi ya koreksilah Lagian udah beberapa hari terakhir ini BEI berusaha untuk jadi jagoan neon ... Tenaga lama2 juga abis Klo udh begini bisa turun 200 - 300 poin --- Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada money/funds outflows hari ini plus kebetulan Regional mere kabeh - beberapa sector/industry/class terjadi outflows mulai kemaren [i.e.infra, bankings] - setelah masup money/funds inflows beberapa lama [sejak awal Jan] ini _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:16 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones Benar juga pak dgn ungkapan memicu macan keluar dari kandang huehehehe Jumlah anggota OB 5rb-an org, dan kesaktian Mbah sdh terbukti berkali2 so dgn adanya prediksi Mbah hari ini bhw bursa akan turun ke 2400-2450 dalam 2 bulan (2 BULAN lho bukan 2 hari! :p), mungkin banyak yg overreactive. Normal2 saja, index sdh tinggi itu membuktikan Mbah emang banyak pemerhatinya alias fans! hehehe... I am one of them. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Mince nensi Nensi Mince mincenensi.nensimince@ wrote: kayak nya ini gara2 EMBAH yg bilang INDEX mau ke 2.400-2.500... banyak yg panic selling sore ini.. padahal EROPA di buka ngak jelek2 banget... dan ASIA ngak dalem2 amir itu sebelum kita merah dalem. kayak nya BEI yg pimpin bursa asia jadi MERAH DALEM.. dari REGIONAL/GLOBAL ngak ada ISU/RUMOR yg bisa di jadikan alesan untk BALAPAN TURUN di mana2 bursa NAIK/TURUN itu biasa tapi klu gini khan memicu MACAN KELUAR DARI KANDANG UNTK SARAPAN. hehehehe.. salam cash 100% SPECIAL THANKS FOR CLUB BEAR - Forwarded Message From: oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:04:38 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: I miss the big ones Hahaha... Yang jelas gue KAGAK PERNAH bilang benci ama ente lho... Special TLKM, jauh hari saya bilang akan NYUNGSEP, malah ngasih saran kalau target riset CS di 9650 tercapai supaya AVRG DOWN supaya cepat keluar jadi investor kacilakaan. Kalau taget BOZZ yg saya tahu utk sementara adalah 9200-an dan sudah tercapai HARI INI. Peluang TLKM untuk jatuh LEBIH DALEM mestinya masih memungkinkan. Alasannya indeks kita khan masih tinggi, btw secara TA, OBV keliatan banget kalau kayak digelontor air BAH... Kalau anda pengen nunggu harga 7-8K berarti PLANNED AGENDA mau menggiring indeks ke 2000 berarti akan BERJALAN BETULAN!? Smell blood gimana? Bagi yg pegang SOBI hari ini malah bukan bau ANYIR malah HARUM Buat yg pegang 100% CASH malah senyum2... Sedangkan yg BERDARAH2 berarti mereka lupa dengan FA. Bahwa kebanyakan TARGET maupun FAIR VALUE terutama BC sudah pada TERCAPAI...terus mo NGAPAIN LAGI? Khan LEBIH ASYIK kalau dibuat turun, tambah DALEM tambah ASYIK. Biar harga2 mereka menjAdi LEBIH MENARIK dan ATTRAKTIF Ya nggak? Kalem aja Btw, obrolan di antara kita nggak usah ancam2an atau emosi segala. Khan sudah sama2 tahu, biar lebih asyik gitu lho... === message truncated === Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: -3% for today?
selain karena faktor indeks regional, ini juga karena beberapa sekuritas melakukan forced sell. Tul gak? jadinya market makin memble. --- hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dikirain kita bakal takut yah.. saya pikir teman-teman disini semuanya smart... so enjoy aja lagi :) On 1/16/08, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apa beda koreksi dan bearish. Koreksi short term aja dalam koridor bullish sedangkan bearish take very long man bisa 6-18 bulan. Kebayang capenya investor, buat swing, scalper etc yah inilah opportunity tapi mesti punya waktu untuk monitor On 1/16/08, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for guidance... Hari ini adalah penurunan TERDALAM untuk minggu ini. Tapi jangan harap ada rebound yg SIGNIFIKAN dlm wkt dekat, minim sampe Jum'at. Now,...let's fight...or sitting beautiful like Tukul said. Good Luck! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Today IHSG can get down to -3%. What a mess. 2400 in 3 days? -15% in 2 weeks? LOL why not.. seems lots haven't sell their portos.. Shut up, Elaine, you're talking bullshit I agree with Elaine, bring it ON Some wants IHSG to go bullish all the time. Some wants to have at cheapest price possible. There're always two sides of the story. Oh, this'd be the last day for CPO and other plantation stocks glory. TAKE PROFIT, that if you have any :) Just like Oentoeng said, there will be another entry point. EL * Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Blood of vengeance
Today is just for short ... short ... and nge-short. he he he. See ... almost 2500. he he he --- James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kl minta emang bisa kabulin nggak nih, kl nggak bisa penuhi yah percuma. OMDO ... On 1/16/08, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, Do you want more? EL Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] TLKM nyungsep
dear rekan OB, knapa ya sama telkom? saya udh nggak pernh perhatiin telkom lagi tuh, abis ... liat2 kebun lebih enak dipandangnya ... Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI closed down almost 2%
ask, mantep bener yak? --- TH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Dow http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI**12,589.07**-238.42**-1.86%**[image: Chart for Dow] http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI* Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [obrolan-bandar] buat mr oentung dan saham ke 10 ribu.
UNVR, SMAR barangnya dikit jd klo naek cepet. Yg lainnya barangnya segudang, jadi klo mo naek gak bisa cepet2 ... abis kegendutan seh .. --- adi kiswoyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir, Mr Oentung masih ingat beberapa vbulan lalu bilang ada saham yang dari 5000 - 6000 an akan terbang ke 10 ribu. ciri ciri nya saham yang mtembus new high duluan ke 7000 an. pilihan saham nya, MEDC, SMGR, UNVR, PTRO, SMAR, BUMI, ANTM. saya kelewat banget nich saham... hari ini baru sadar SMAR tembus 10 ribu biarpun ditutup di 9000 an. unvr baru tembus 7 ribu an hari ini... pertanyaan sayaa apa cuma 1 sahaam aja yaitu SMAR? atau masih ada saham lainnya? nyseal aku ngak perhatikan saham saham ini beberapa hari lalu... thanks. salam, Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
