Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Our tank is full
Ok, -15 is good enough, considering other markets are much worse than ours. But still the candle is green, it shows some optimism. Tomorrow should be a gap up, IF dow rebounds (dow fut is +83) As for MIRA (if you have it) , all I can say is good luck, because whoever brought this one to 800, was actually doing a ONE DAY TRADING. Just becareful with it. On Dec 12, 2007 3:08 PM, Bandar Sedang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't play against SMALL retail. but against another FM LET'S SEE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Our tank is full
Apa bedanya I'm out for BUMI, I've out of BUMI, I'm out of BUMI dan I would've out with BUMI ? Dari 4 kata diatas, mana yang menyatakan kalau dia nyangkut...? Sori, gak penting yah.. hehe.. :) On Dec 12, 2007 4:43 PM, RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Om PM, On UNSP, I have gone out of it right on 6 December. Technically, it's not encouraging. BUT, this stock is not bad, worth holding. CPO/agri is prospective. Currently, it's like played ting tong for profit-taking. English lesson: I'm out of BUMI = expression to be said right on time you're out. A present continuous tense saying a 'remark and doing simultaneously'. I have gone/got out of BUMI = expression of present perfect tense: indicating activity that has been done, NOT EMPHASIZING on current doing. I have gone out BUMI means indicating sometime in the past but indefinitely. If definite, it will become past tense. E.g. I went out of BUMI yesterday when candlestick was in 3 black crows pattern. *I was a foreign company official translator before.* Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TLKM
Jangan panik, TLKM sedang diakumulasi di harga bawah. Avg down jika memungkinkan. Lowest di 10500. On Dec 13, 2007 10:24 AM, H Gozali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please help, mbah rekan-rekan lain. Ada apa dengan TLKM ? Di NYSE tutup lebih tinggi, malah di rumah sendiri dihajar.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A MUST READ for beginner: No 1= GROWTH, No 2 = GROWTH, No 3 = GROWTH
Fully agree. We will always watch our investment carefully. Q3 (July, Aug, Sept) result is somehow *always* negative compared to Q2 on some sector (which is the perfect time to collect :) I wonder why.. That's why our analyst always compare Q-o-Q performance On Dec 11, 2007 2:15 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Oom senang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer to use annual than quarterly report ANNUALY most mining and agri sector have positive growth acceleration, especially in the last 3 years I see... But be carefull, if you are using annual report because BIG fluctuation of commodity price such as nickel is not shown CLEARLY in annual report. Bisa bisa commodity price nya udah AMBROL, laporan annualnya masih bagus. Effect of lower nickel price is shown clearly in Q3 QUARTELY REPORT Q3 for ANTM. So DECELERATING GROWTH or NEGATIVE GROWTH is easily detected...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TMPI jilid III
Robin Hood? :) Sorry, just kidding. Sudah lah, semua juga tahu TMPI itu saham samber nyawa, nggak usah dibahas deh. Mau main silahkan, mau menghindar juga boleh. Yang penting manajemen resiko tetap #1. 1% dari portofolio buat ngetes nyali sih boleh-boleh aja, anggap saja judi bola. On Dec 11, 2007 4:41 PM, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kl untungnya dari bikin rugi yg laen namanya apa? On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:23:34 +0700, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapi kalau yang untung 50% dalam 2 hari gimana dong ?? Jadi Keledai atau jadi Kuda ?
[obrolan-bandar] This is a perfect time to fill in
Panic selling? Maybe only in the session 1. We'll wait until 11am, and see if things will go better later today. You can try to take short position, but the result might be unpleasant :)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Jangan Bias/prejudice or whatever di dunia saham
Asal jangan lupa jual aja :)... kaya tmpi/poly/myrx nasibnya cukup tragis kalau terlambat jual kecuali kalau mau di hold long term 100 tahun sih boleh saja On Dec 12, 2007 9:31 AM, jko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tak ada saham bagus atau jelek, yang ada hanya saham murah atau mahal.. benjamin graham, um tapi di indonesiakan hehehe..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SERBU DEWA !!
http://www.newmont.com/en/investor/financial/ Size 7MB On Dec 12, 2007 10:33 AM, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coba lihat profit NNT kalo ada yg punya data taruh dimilis.
[obrolan-bandar] Our tank is full
We hope the market will be cooperative. If things go well, we'll see a green at the end of the day, and even greener tomorrow. :)
[obrolan-bandar] We're almost full
When it's done, let's fly with us.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A MUST READ for beginner: No 1= GROWTH, No 2 = GROWTH, No 3 = GROWTH
Little correction: the most important thing is GROWTH ACCELERATION For example: Growth 100(0) 200(+100%) 250(+25%) 300 (+20%) It's a declining growth, and it's not good enough Growth 10(0) 15(+50%) 30(+100%) 60 (+100%) 150(+150%) It's an accelerating growth from time to time And I agree on ANTM and TINS On Dec 11, 2007 12:58 PM, OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apasih yg paling PENTING agar saham yg kita punya NAIK banyak ? Jawabannya bukan di PER atau ROE !!! Yang paling menentukan kenaikan harga saham yg SPEKTAKULER ialah GROWTH ... Jika Penjualan, Laba operasi dan Laba bersih NAIK banyak , maka OTOMATIS harga saham akan naik secara SPEKTAKULER.. Begitu juga sebaliknya. Sebagai contoh saya kirimkan lagi Financial performance untuk ANTM dan TINS berikut grafik QUARTERLY GROWTHnya... Regards, OB Help desk .
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A MUST READ for beginner: No 1= GROWTH, No 2 = GROWTH, No 3 = GROWTH
I prefer to use annual than quarterly report ANNUALY most mining and agri sector have positive growth acceleration, especially in the last 3 years On Dec 11, 2007 1:38 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have an example of BEI stock that has a GROWTH ACCELERATION ? Does ANTM in Q3/2007 has negative GROWTH ACCELERATION ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Oom senang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Little correction: the most important thing is GROWTH ACCELERATION For example: Growth 100(0) 200(+100%) 250(+25%) 300 (+20%) It's a declining growth, and it's not good enough Growth 10(0) 15(+50%) 30(+100%) 60 (+100%) 150(+150%) It's an accelerating growth from time to time And I agree on ANTM and TINS
[obrolan-bandar] Mohon penawaran harga yang murah
Saya dan kawan-kawan saya belanja banyak sekali minggu ini dan minggu depan, untuk itu mohon kesediaanya memberikan penawaran (offer) harga yang murah, terutama di sektor properti, infrastruktur dan bank. Mohon maaf kami juga mau ikutan naik kereta BEI Express, namun tidak mudah bagi kami untuk switching portfolio secara cepat tanpa merusak harga pasar. Nanti kalau proses switching sudah selesai, kita angkat bersama-sama agar semua senang. Terima kasih sebelumnya.
[obrolan-bandar] 3 simple methods to get rich and happiness
1. Buy mining/energy/cpo stocks when they're in the correction phase. They perform better than any sector, ever. 2. Close RTI, Hots, bloomberg, CNBC, whatever, and get a life 3. Let the management/directors/CEO handle the company. It's their job, not ours. Bandar? They MANAGE, not OWN the money. The money belongs to investors. Let them work for you, not against you. Don't go against them, as they are often too powerful. Don't believe me? Watch 2nd session. The bull is a bear in disguise. We're still waiting for the prices to decline even more until we're fully loaded. Don't hate us, it's just business.
Re: Pasar Modal bukan zero sum game RE: [obrolan-bandar] sesama trader, KAWAN atau LAWAN?
Saham bukan zero sum game karena ada yang namanya: 1. dividen 2. right issue 3. msop/esop 4. delisting/default 5. convertible bonds On Dec 8, 2007 5:03 PM, Mudy Situmorang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pasar modal tidak sepenuhnya zero sum game. Bahkan sama sekali berbeda. Ada banyak faktor yang mempengaruhi pasar modal, bukan hanya capital inflow dan outflow. Sehingga bisa saja semua untung atau semua rugi. Ini bertentangan dengan definisi zero sum game. Jadi Pasar Modal BUKAN (tidak identik dengan) zero sum game. Pada kasus tertentu pada masa tertentu bisa saja Pasar Modal memenuhi zero sum game, tapi jualan baso juga sama :-) -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of naruto.saham Sent: 08 Desember 2007 15:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] sesama trader, KAWAN atau LAWAN? Di milis ini, sesama trader saling tukar menukar informasi dan opini seolah-olah pasar saham itu NON zero-sum games. Padahal, Alexander Elder, penulis Trading for A Living, pernah mendefinisikan trading sebagai permainan mencoba merampok pemain lain yang berusaha merampok anda. Bingung aku! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
