[obrolan-bandar] Good News... the fed funds rate will remain unchanged at 2%
The Conference Board's confidence index fell to 50.4, the lowest level since February 1992, from a revised 58.1 in May. Consumers were the most pessimistic about the future in the 41- year history of the index. A separate report today showed home prices in April dropped the most since at least 2001. Falling property values, rising unemployment and higher food and fuel bills have shaken consumers and may cause purchases to slump once the rebate money is gone. While price increases signal the Federal Reserve may raise borrowing costs later this year, policy makers are forecast to hold the target rate unchanged tomorrow as concern over growth lingers The market expects the fed funds rate will remain unchanged at 2.00% ``I don't think we're going to have the inflation problem that the markets fear,'' The number one concern for the Fed right now is the financial crisis and the impact from the financial crisis on the overall economy. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CNNMoney.com: Rumah lagi, rumah lagi
kalo begitu the fed akan berpikir dua kali sebelum memutuskan menaikkan suku bunga. :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CNNMoney.com: Rumah lagi, rumah lagi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 10:13 PM Home prices post record 15.3% drop The SP/Case-Shiller 20-city Home Price Index has fallen for 21 straight months. NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- U.S. home prices posted record declines in April, continuing a long losing streak for U.S. home prices. The SP/Case-Shiller 20-city Home Price Index fell to a record low of 15.3% on a year-over-year basis, and was down 1.4% from March. The 10-city index was down 16.3% year-over-year and 1.6% for the month. The 20 city index is based on data going back 19 years, while the 10 city index is 21 years old. There might be some regional pockets of improvement, but on an annual basis the overall numbers continue to decline, said David Blitzer, Chairman of the Index Committee at Standard Poor's. The declines have been remarkably consistent through the past two years with prices on the 20-city index dropping for 21 straight months, since July 2006. The 10-city index has fallen every month since June 2006. What's more, recent drops have been particularly steep. The 20-city index fell 3.5% in March, 2.6% in February and 2.3% in January, and now it has gone down another 1.4%.
Re: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Hot News: Saudi pumping extra oil to meet demand: Saudi source
menurut dari berbagai sumber sih katanya, untuk bulan juli 2008. lebih cepat kan lebih baik.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas --- On Sun, 6/22/08, Indonesian Private Investors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Indonesian Private Investors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Hot News: Saudi pumping extra oil to meet demand: Saudi source To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 4:03 PM baca disini deh.. http://www.cnbc. com/id/25298153 Di naikkan nya tahun depan kok... efek short term nya mungkin kecil sekali ke equities.. karena produksi oil saudi dinaikkan nya tahun 2009 bukan 2008 ini.. Pusat Dunia [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Saudi pumping extra oil to meet demand: Saudi source Published: Reuter - Saturday June 21, 2008 http://biz.yahoo. com/rb/080621/ jeddah_oil. html?.v=6 JEDDAH, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - Top world oil exporter Saudi Arabia has decided to increase oil supply to meet demand from customers, a Saudi oil source said on Saturday. Saudi Arabia will raise output to 9.7 million barrels per day in July, the fastest daily rate in decades. We increased because they (our customers) asked for it, the source said. He was speaking as delegates from oil consuming and producing countries arrived in Jeddah for a meeting on Sunday to try tackle record oil prices. There was no consensus yet between consumers and producers on the causes of high oil prices, he said, but he believed there was a collective will to try to stem the record rally. I really believe strongly that there is a political will of oil producers and consumers to lower the price and stabilize it, otherwise they would not have come, he said. Oil markets were well-balanced but the price of oil was unjustifiably high, the source said. Right now the majority of people think the price of oil is very high, he said. There is no justification for this price. The kingdom currently has spare output capacity of around 2 million barrels per day, he said. Saudi Arabia has a long-held policy of keeping a cushion to deal with any surprise global supply disruptions of between 1.5 million and 2 million bpd -=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=- =-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity . # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas - - - - - --- Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. br Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
[obrolan-bandar] At Saudi summit, some urge crackdown on speculators
At Saudi summit, some urge crackdown on speculators Published: MarketWatch - Sunday June 22, 2008 http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/saudi-summit-some-urge-crackdown/story.aspx?guid=%7B5DB12B01%2DC94B%2D4BEB%2D8735%2D5B5DF6B03632%7D SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Some attendees of this weekend's summit of oil producers and consumers in Saudi Arabia are calling for stricter regulation of financial speculators to curb skyrocketing oil prices, according to a news report. A working paper for the summit's final declaration obtained by AFP calls for action to improve the transparency and regulation of financial markets through measures to capture more data on index fund activity and to examine cross exchange inter-actions in the crude market, said the news service Saturday. A senior energy official told the AFP that the call to rein in speculators may be toned down because of U.S. opposition to such measures. A U.S. delegation led by Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman is joining the swiftly convened meeting of large oil consuming and producing nations, arranged by Saudi Arabia to address complaints about oil prices near $140 a barrel. The White House has urged more production, both at home and abroad, as the best solution to reversing a rally in oil prices. Some in Congress, however, are pushing for more regulation of financial investors in commodities. Saudi Arabia, the world's largest producer of oil, is expected to reveal more about its production plans on Sunday. On Friday, Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi told reporters in Jeddah the country would raise its production level by 200,000 barrels a day starting next month, according to media reports. That increase, which had been anticipated, would lift total daily production to 9.7 million barrels per day. A Saudi source told Reuters Saturday that the planned increase in output was designed to meet customers' request. Nonetheless, the kingdom and other members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, have maintained that global supplies are generally adequate to meet demand. Instead, they have pointed the finger at financial speculators, the weak dollar and other factors for driving up world oil prices more than four times their levels five years ago. The subject of financial speculation has been a hot topic in the U.S. Congress, where lawmakers have proposed a range of legislative fixes that, at the most extreme, would bar large asset managers from investing in oil and other commodities futures. Congress will debate these topics this week at a series of Capital Hill hearings. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
[obrolan-bandar] Democrats offer another bill to curb oil speculation
Democrats offer another bill to curb oil speculation Published: CNNMoney.com - Sunday June 22, 9:45 am ET http://biz.yahoo.com/cnnm/080622/062008_speculation_legislation.html?.v=4 Speculation, a dirty word across America as Wall Street traders take the blame for record oil and gasoline prices, drew more attention Friday from Congress as three Democratic House members introduced yet another bill attempting to limit activity. To underline his case, Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., said speculators now control 71% of oil on the market. That means only 29% control the physical oil being traded, down from 61% eight years ago. Stupak blamed loosely regulated trading markets with numerous loopholes for the ease that traders have to buy and sell crude. As a result, Stupak introduced legislation with the support of two other Democratic Congressmen to close loopholes that allow oil to be traded electronically in unregulated oil markets. The bill would also regulate other methods that Stupak claims oil traders use to avoid federal oversight. We can eliminate a major avenue that traders use to avoid oversight, said Stupak at a press conference Friday. It's time for Congress to close the Enron loophole and lower our gas and diesel prices by 50%. Many in Congress have suggested that closing a provision in the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 that critics call the Enron loophole, after the energy trading company whose bankruptcy was the centerpiece of the corporate scandals early this decade. The provision allows oil futures to be traded in markets outside of the jurisdiction of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission. Stupak, the chair of a House Energy and Commerce subcommittee, has pledged to investigate regulation of speculation further in a hearing on Monday. Congress is currently awash in nine different bills - including Friday's proposal - that attempt to limit the role of speculators. Several have bipartisan support, but only one was co-sponsored by a Republican. Proposals have included requiring foreign exchanges to provide more information about crude oil trades, limiting the number of contracts speculators are allowed to hold, increasing the amount of money speculators need to put up to buy an oil contract, and removing speculators from the market entirely and limiting trade to just producers and consumers. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
[obrolan-bandar] Taiwan to let brokerages invest in China
Taiwan to let brokerages invest in China Published: Saturday, June 21, 2008 http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/%20business/2008/06/21/161961/Taiwan-to.htm TAIPEI, Taiwan -- Taiwan's incoming top financial regulator said yesterday he aims to allow local brokerages to invest in their Chinese counterparts by the end of 2008 as part of a plan to boost trade ties with China. Taiwan allowed local banks to invest in mainland lenders via their offshore subsidiaries earlier this year and a similar model was likely for brokers, said Gordon Chen, who becomes chairman of the Financial Supervision Commission (FSC) on July 1. I think indirect investments will be acceptable at the first stage and brokerage houses can invest through their Hong Kong units, Chen, who replaces Hu Sheng-cheng, told Reuters. The move is part of a broader series of efforts by Taiwan lift to its economy through closer business ties with China under the new administration of President Ma Ying-jeou, whose Kuomintang (KMT) triumphed in recent polls on a promise of improving relations with Beijing. To make it easier for a flow of investments, the FSC has said it plans to allow the island's brokerages to invest up to 30 percent of their net assets in China, up from 10 percent previously. That would be good news for Taiwan's top brokerage houses, including Capital Securities, whose board has approved a plan to invest in China. In his first interview with foreign media before taking over as the FSC chairman, Chen said Taiwan also expects to sign a closer economic agreement with China, a pact similar to the Closer Economic Partnership Arrangement (CEPA) agreement that Hong Kong has with China, by the end of 2009. Taiwan is also aiming to allow China's qualified institutional investors to invest in Taiwan's stocks and mutual funds by the end of next year, he said. Other plans in that series included allowing exchange-traded funds (ETFs) launched by Taiwan's and China's fund management firms to trade in each other's markets. We hope we can have more room to improve on the financial side and create a win-win situation, said Chen, who was a vice finance minister and the chairman of the Taiwan Stock Exchange before. China and Taiwan split after civil war in 1949. Taiwan has ruled itself since then, but China still claims the island as part of its territory and has threatened to take it by force. Despite political differences, China has been the favorite overseas destination for Taiwan firms, which have pumped more than US$100 billion into mainland investments. Taiwan's financial sub-index closed down 1.8 percent Friday, in line with the main TAIEX index's fall to a four-month closing low due to inflation fears. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
[obrolan-bandar] Hot News: Saudi pumping extra oil to meet demand: Saudi source
Saudi pumping extra oil to meet demand: Saudi source Published: Reuter - Saturday June 21, 2008 http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080621/jeddah_oil.html?.v=6 JEDDAH, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - Top world oil exporter Saudi Arabia has decided to increase oil supply to meet demand from customers, a Saudi oil source said on Saturday. Saudi Arabia will raise output to 9.7 million barrels per day in July, the fastest daily rate in decades. We increased because they (our customers) asked for it, the source said. He was speaking as delegates from oil consuming and producing countries arrived in Jeddah for a meeting on Sunday to try tackle record oil prices. There was no consensus yet between consumers and producers on the causes of high oil prices, he said, but he believed there was a collective will to try to stem the record rally. I really believe strongly that there is a political will of oil producers and consumers to lower the price and stabilize it, otherwise they would not have come, he said. Oil markets were well-balanced but the price of oil was unjustifiably high, the source said. Right now the majority of people think the price of oil is very high, he said. There is no justification for this price. The kingdom currently has spare output capacity of around 2 million barrels per day, he said. Saudi Arabia has a long-held policy of keeping a cushion to deal with any surprise global supply disruptions of between 1.5 million and 2 million bpd -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
Re: [obrolan-bandar] GOLD may rise to $5,000 in the next few years
saya rasa, kecil kemungkinan ke $5000, seandainya pun ke angka tersebut akan sangat mudah meledak dan pullback down. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas --- On Fri, 6/20/08, Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] GOLD may rise to $5,000 in the next few years To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 4:03 PM Yang next few years, entar-sok aja deh, Mas. Sekarang mikirin gimana bisa lepas dari saham nyangkut dulu. Hik, hik. RW - Original Message - From: Bandar Junior To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: [!! SPAM] [obrolan-bandar] GOLD may rise to $5,000 in the next few years http://www.bloomber g.com/apps/ news?pid= 20601012sid=aF1439PVhAgkrefer=commodities
[obrolan-bandar] Bear Stearns to pay preferred stock dividend on July 15 2008
Bear Stearns to pay preferred stock dividend on July 15 2008 Published: June 20, 2008 http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7bBE814789-ED00-4BED-8915-022FCDE49CA0%7dsiteid=yhoof2 SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- JPMorgan Chase Co. and its subsidiary Bear Stearns Cos. on Friday declared a quarterly dividend on its outstanding preferred shares, ranging from $2.745 to $3.075 a share. The dividends will be paid on July 15 to stockholders of record at the close of business on June 30. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
[obrolan-bandar] Tips to Succeed in Stock Market
Tips to Succeed in Stock Market Legendary Investor Warren Buffett once advised, Be greedy when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. Thanks to a fear-filled summer, many top notch stocks are still trading well below their potential, giving savvy investors the opportunity to strike it rich. Time to Get Greedy? Graham taught Buffett to ignore the markets and focus upon buying the underlying worth of the stock. Buying stocks below their book value and having a margin of safety were key Graham investing themes. Graham taught Buffett to look beyond the current stock price to the intrinsic value of the stock.. And, then, to only buy the stock if it could be purchased at a steep discount to its intrinsic value, giving a large margin of safety Buffett's partnership portfolio over ten years grew by a modest 1,156% compared to the Dow's 122.9% and other major world indices. The Start of a Bull Market ? The bottom of the market starts at a time when the stock market is weak and the general population is pessimistic. At this point most investors sell after having endured a long and torturous bear market. This extreme pessimism found at a bottom is always irrational and undeserved. Now the market is undervalued and is a bargain. Savvy investors, the “smart money”, buy bargain stocks knowing that they will be able to sell them higher in the near future. Smart money buying, called accumulation, causes stocks to rise. The smart money often consists of NYSE specialists, Nasdaq Market Makers, hedge fund traders and corporate insiders. These traders have access to information that the general public does not. Rising stocks eventually gain the respect of mutual funds, as Billions of dollars of capital is introduced into the market place. Mutual fund investment causes the stock market to advance in a powerful manner. Much of the steady large trends are powered by mutual funds and other institutional investors. Stock Market: Buy or Not? When you go to the store and see a pair of designer slacks that you've had your eye on for some time on sale, do you buy them? Or, do you fret, thinking that if you wait they might be even more discounted? Of course, in the latter scenario you stand the risk of someone else buying them first and they aren't available at all. Such is the state of the current stock market. If you buy now, the market could go down further and you'll be sorry. If you wait, the market could go up, and you'll still be sorry because you didn't buy earlier. Dissatisfaction with your decision can plaque you either way... That is just plain disconcerting. Will you become the next Warren Buffett? Yes or No. But, I'll leave you with this: History repeats itself, and we can learn a great deal from history. And, hopefully, not repeat the mistakes of others. Maybe, even, in some limited way, we can repeat some of the successes others before us have achieved, if we understand their methodology at the time and absorb some of the lessons they have learned in the past. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG
sarijaya pusat ? atw cabang mana neh... # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. quot;A good momentum is a good opportunityquot;. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. quot;Buy when you cannot find a Bullquot;. # Only buy something that you#39;d be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 5:15 PM Neng Novi umur 21 tahun, dari Sarijaya Sekuritas. Udah lapor Pak DE belon? --- On Wed, 18/6/08, Noviana Astuti noophan_imoet@ yahoo.co. id wrote: From: Noviana Astuti noophan_imoet@ yahoo.co. id Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008, 3:42 PM kabar pnbn gmana ce bnernya? leh nanya kn!!!help me please Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger .yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow menjelang rapat fed
With the U.S. economy still slowing, the Fed cannot raise rates this year -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas --- On Thu, 6/19/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dow menjelang rapat fed To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 7:21 AM As usual as predicted. Biar om ben ga buru2 naikin rate ha ha ha
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: KENAPA KOK INDEKS GAK MAU NAIK
market masih mau melihat apa keputusan Om.Bernanke nanti moga2 aja baik... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas --- On Thu, 6/19/08, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: KENAPA KOK INDEKS GAK MAU NAIK To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 9:44 AM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Pemain Mini pemainmini@ ... wrote: ada apa sih dengan indeks indonesia ? kok goblok banget sih gak bisa naek aneh2 aja nih. ... SIP : HENDRIK pak pemain mini.. met pagi... market kok dibilang goblok ih pak ^^ market isinya bukan badan amal pak yang mau gitu aja serahin unag buat retailer he3.. kalau market naik terus banyak yang cuan kan, trus,... siapa yang mau rugi ^^? buat mengimbangin yang cuan?
[obrolan-bandar] Top News: Paulson to push for oversight reforms - reports
Top News: Paulson to push for oversight reforms - reports Reuters - Published: June 19, 2008 http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1928844120080619 WASHINGTON, June 18 (Reuters) - U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is expected to urge that the Federal Reserve be given new powers to regulate Wall Street after the collapse of brokerage Bear Stearns Cos. Inc., U.S. media reported on Wednesday. In a speech to be delivered on Thursday, Paulson will say that the fall of Bear Stearns has expedited the need for the government to address the outdated regulatory oversight structure while not intervening too much in the functioning of markets, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post said. We should quickly consider how to most appropriately give the Fed the authority to access necessary information from highly complex financial institutions and the responsibility to intervene in order to protect the system, so they can carry out the role our nation has come to expect -- stabilizing the overall system when it is threatened, Paulson will say, according to prepared remarks obtained by the newspapers. Bear Stearns, once the fifth-largest U.S. investment bank, was sold in March to JPMorgan Chase Co in an emergency takeover deal orchestrated by the U.S. central bank in close consultation with the Treasury Department. In a speech earlier this month, New York Federal Reserve President Timothy Geithner said regulatory reforms should mitigate and reduce the need for future interventions, but that it was not realistic to attempt pre-emptively to diffuse pockets of risk and leverage. I do believe, however, that we can make the system better able to handle failure by making the shock absorbers stronger, Geithner said. The Bear Stearns takeover came after the firm's sudden collapse, when investors and trading partners withdrew their business and their cash from a bank heavily exposed to the U.S. mortgage crisis. Top U.S. regulators defended the rescue arguing that Bear Stearns could not be allowed to collapse because it could have shattered confidence in financial markets and caused lasting damage to the economy. It was the Federal Reserve's first rescue of a broker since the Great Depression in an effort to soothe financial markets roiled by fallout from rising mortgage defaults. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- # Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. A good momentum is a good opportunity. # We simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful. Buy when you cannot find a Bull. # Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. --Warren Buffett Quotes -- Smart Investment ideas
[obrolan-bandar] Oil Falls a Third Day on Signs Demand to Drop, Field May Start
Oil Falls a Third Day on Signs Demand to Drop, Field May Start Tuesday, June 17 2008 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110sid=aQQknawzHNi0 June 17 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil fell for a third day on signs that slower economic growth will curb fuel consumption, production at an offshore Norwegian field may resume after a fire and Kuwait said prices are too high. Housing starts and industrial production in the U.S., consumer of almost 25 percent of the world's oil, dropped last month, government reports showed today. StatoilHydro ASA said its Oseberg field may resume operations this week after a fire on a platform halted production June 15. Prices above $100 a barrel are too high, the finance minister of Kuwait said today. ``I think it's high,'' Kuwaiti Finance Minister Mustafa Al- Shimali said in an interview in Isfahan, Iran, today. A reasonable oil price would be ``more or less $100,'' he said. Kuwait is the fourth-biggest oil producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.
[obrolan-bandar] Korea Seeks Investor-Friendly Financial Regulatory System
Korea Seeks Investor-Friendly Financial Regulatory System KoreaTimes - Wednesday, June 17 2008 http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/06/123_26054.html Deputy Governor of Financial Supervisory Service It is interesting to note that in today's marketplace, analysis of companies traded on the New York Stock Exchange is disseminated in real time by analysts in Mumbai, India, and stock prices react instantaneously around the world. A newspaper company in California can also hire a reporter in a far-flung place to gather U.S. news on the Internet for Californian readers. The world is becoming a local market at a pace unimaginable just a few years ago. This is especially true for financial markets, where the forces of liberalization and globalization have brought trading and investing in just about every market in every continent within easy reach. So, the axiom that global issues require global responses rings more true than ever before. The 8th ASEM Finance Ministers' Meeting that Korea hosts in Jeju is a good occasion to take stock of economic and financial market situations in the Asian and European countries and discuss wide-ranging regional issues. As countries seek to develop their financial markets, we are seeing an unprecedented level of cooperation among countries. But, at the same time, competition among countries has grown increasingly intense. It can be said that cooperation and competition truly go hand in hand. To survive in the highly competitive global marketplace, we have steadily carried out reform efforts and achieved significant improvements in the profitability, efficiency and soundness of the financial industry. However, there is still much to be done. Inefficiencies remain in the financial system and we see many improvements to be made to our regulatory framework. We would also like to see our financial markets and firms become more global. Let me briefly outline some of our key initiatives. First and foremost, deregulation is at the core of our reform efforts. Our goal is to strengthen the competitiveness of our financial industry and give financial firms the freedom they need to innovate and compete. We are also looking at principles-based supervision where financial firms are given greater flexibility in choosing how to meet their regulatory responsibilities. Moreover, as part of efforts to create a market-friendly regulatory environment, we are sharing our expertise with financial firms and making recommendations to address weaknesses that our examiners identify. We are also preparing a comprehensive online system to enhance convenience and provide easier access to our services. Secondly, we are reviewing our financial regulations and bringing them in line with prevailing global standards. We will create an attractive business and investment climate where domestic and foreign firms can compete freely on a level playing field. Thirdly, as we proceed with financial deregulation, we will step up monitoring to ensure that stability of the financial system and the soundness of financial firms are not harmed. We are implementing a risk-based supervisory approach and encouraging financial firms to set the right risk tolerance levels and conduct their business within those risk parameters. We are also insisting on a sound system of internal controls and safeguards from them. The heavy losses that major investment banks and others have suffered lately in the sub prime market can be traced to failures in internal controls and risk management. Lastly, we will strengthen cooperation with the financial regulators and international regulatory organizations. We are fully committed to supporting domestic firms that are looking to expand into international markets. The 8th ASEM Finance Ministers' Meeting is a unique opportunity for Asian and European policymakers to engage in earnest dialogue on ways to advance our common economic interests
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bisakah Bernanke berpikir terbalik?
bernanke bertindak serba salah, kalo interest rate dinaikkan yang akan mati adalah perbankan sendiri, nah sedangkan si bernanke itu pro bank. kelihatanya dia lebih menyukai cut rates dibandingkan raise rate. dalam pikirannya : inflation is number two. bagaimana pun juga, kalo interest-rate dinaikkan, yang akan terpukul juga 90% perusahaan2 di AS. beban semakin meningkat, dan banyak yang gagal bayar. i dont know why, :) --- On Mon, 6/16/08, vividtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: vividtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bisakah Bernanke berpikir terbalik? To: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 10:15 PM Di yahoo finance: Washington Post says Bernanke will not raise rates Monday June 16, 9:14 am ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke does not intend to raise interest rates because he is more worried about soaring oil prices slowing global growth than he is about their firing inflation, the Washington Post said on Monday. A column by Robert Novak, citing unnamed sources close to him, said Bernanke has no plans for a raise. The Federal Reserve declined to comment on the Washington Post column. The column said there was an unusual difference in outlook on the global economy between Bernanke and European Central Bank president Jean-Claude Trichet, who has hinted that the ECB will raise rates to combat inflation. (Writing by Glenn Somerville, Editing by Chizu Nomiyama) Gara2 Bernanke bilang gak akan menaikkan interest rate dollar jadi melemah.oil naik lagi-lagi.. saham anjlok padahal sumber masalahnya sebenernya dollar yg terus melemahpadahal semua orang juga tau klo Many investors buy commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation when the dollar falls.payah nih. Mengapa dia tidak berpikir terbalik... interest rate naik... dollar menguat. spekulasi di oil menurun saham naik... karena saham naik dan oil turun kepercayaan diri pelaku ekonomi naik kepercayaan diri naik ekonomi akan tumbuh -- http://www.vividtra der.blogspot. com
[obrolan-bandar] Bill Jamieson says: An Oil Bubble Ready To Burst
Bill Jamieson says: An oil bubble ready to burst Published Date: 17 June 2008 By Bill Jamieson Bill Jamieson looks at whether the end is near for soaring prices. FOR the past 18 months economies worldwide have been at the mercy of the biggest ever commodity price boom. The benchmark CRB commodity index rose 15% in the opening three months of this year, eclipsing moves in the Seventies.. Oil has led the advancADVERTISEMENTe with a doubling of the price in barely a year. The boom has combined with a global credit crunch to create a massive policy crisis for governments and central banks. Little wonder that the commodities boom, along with record oil prices, inflation and the wavering dollar are centre stage of the G8 summit this weekend in Japan. This killer combination is driving the world's most powerful economies towards a painful and extended slowdown – and with pressure on central banks to raise interest rates, not cut them. Inflation in America rose 0.8% last month to an annual rate of 4.2%. The boom, in the eyes of a growing number, has come to resemble a speculative bubble. And they warn that like all bubbles before it – emerging markets in the Eighties, technology and internet stocks in the Nineties, house prices in the US and Britain in the past six years – it will end in bust. Paul Walker, of GFMS metals and mining consultancy, believes so. He says we are seeing a last hurrah in commodity markets – a final surge upwards in prices as the credit crisis lurches towards its conclusion – and that we will see a severe retrenchment of prices as financial markets recover. The US Commodities Futures Trading Commission suspects so too. It has been probing how agricultural commodities are traded and pondering moves that could curb financial speculation in grains, soy beans and other foodstuffs. It has also launched inquiries into the recent heavy speculative activity in oil futures. So why hasn't the bubble burst before now? There are two problems with the 'bubble' thesis. One is that there has always been speculative activity in these markets and that warnings of a bust have been around for a long time. How long can the oil price stay above $130? The supply-demand fundamentals do not explain the sharpness of the ascent this year – 60% since January. Nor does it make any allowance for the reaction of the end consumer. Stockbrokers Charles Stanley estimate that oil speculators have amassed 1.1 billion barrels of oil, more than eight times the amount added by the US to its strategic reserve, making them the largest single influence on oil-related commodity futures trading. William Enghadi, research associate at the Centre for Research on Globalisation, conservatively estimates that at least 60% of today's crude oil price comes from unregulated futures speculation by hedge funds, banks and financial groups. It would be wholly wrong to suggest that speculative activity in the futures market is solely or even mainly to blame for the spectacular rise in oil. But it has certainly exaggerated the price trend in recent months. One characteristic of a pending bust is when the price of a share or commodity becomes a national – or supra national – obsession. That is certainly the case now, with riots across Europe and Asia and haulier protests and blockades in the UK. It doesn't necessarily follow that prices then automatically behave in the manner that presidents and finance ministers would like. But a growing determination to see a firmer dollar would certainly help drive the oil price down. And the key factor most likely to make speculators switch positions is already evident: an adverse market response to an ever higher price. There are signs that the commodities bubble may already be bursting in some areas. Prices for wheat and rice have come off the boil. Nickel prices have fallen by 25% since mid March. The economies of the oil consumers are now slowing and oil demand falling as businesses and households cut back. At the same time, governments in developing countries that have been operating price subsidies to shield consumers from the full impact of fuel price rises have been forced to lower or withdraw these subsidies in a move that will hit demand hard. Longer term, oil demand will be further hit by the accelerated push towards alternative energy sources. Falling oil demand is every inch as fundamental a consideration as constraints on supply. With clear signs of a slowdown in both developed and developing country economies, the likelihood of oil rising much above current levels looks ever more stretched. Meanwhile oil companies have a greater incentive to step up exploration and development that will in time boost supply. The more these two reactions become evident, the greater the likelihood traders will turn speculative long positions into short ones – betting on a price fall. Expressions of concern at G8 summits and
[obrolan-bandar] Credit Suisse China Investment Bank Venture Approved
Credit Suisse China Investment Bank Venture Approved Saturday, June 14 2008 (Bloomberg) -- Credit Suisse Group said China's securities regulator approved its investment-banking venture, letting the second-biggest Swiss bank participate in the domestic stock underwriting market that topped $68 billion last year. The Zurich-based bank owns 33.3 percent of the venture, and Founder Securities Co. owns the rest, Credit Suisse said in an e- mailed statement today. It will also be able to underwrite foreign-currency shares, and government and corporate bonds. China's market generated a record $1.2 billion in equity underwriting fees last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The approval is the first since China announced rules in December that retained its 33 percent cap on foreign ownership of investment banks and restricted participation to publicly traded brokerages. ``This is a very important milestone in the implementation of Credit Suisse's ambitious Asia-Pacific growth strategy, particularly for a vitally important country like China,'' Kai Nargolwala, chief executive officer of Credit Suisse Asia Pacific, said in the statement. Lei Jie, chairman of Founder Securities, a unit of Beijing- based Founder Group, was appointed chairman of the investment bank. Neil Ge, a managing director of Credit Suisse's investment banking in Shanghai, was named CEO. Resisting Competition New York-based Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Zurich-based UBS AG, the biggest Swiss bank, so far are the only global securities firms with management control of investment-banking units in China. UBS's China venture was the third-largest arranger of domestic stock offerings last year, with 13 percent market share. China has resisted opening its market further to foreign competition. Shielding the domestic brokerage industry from Wall Street firms has helped make Beijing-based Citic Securities Co. Asia's biggest brokerage by market value. Founder Securities ranked 19th among China's 102 brokerages for the value of stock, mutual fund, bond and options transactions last year, according to the Securities Association of China, an industry group supervised by the China Securities Regulatory Commission. Founder Group owns five companies listed in China, Malaysia and Hong Kong and more than 20 businesses and joint ventures, according to its Web site. The company, which employs 20,000, said it has branched out from its roots in information technology to health care and pharmaceuticals. It bought Founder Securities, previously called Zhejiang Securities, in 2002. Morgan Stanley China's securities regulator has been encouraging smaller securities companies to increase market share through mergers and acquisitions, according to a report by the regulator published in January. The approval of the Credit Suisse venture allows the Swiss firm to leapfrog rivals Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc. in grabbing a slice of China's domestic equity underwriting. Chinese stocks had their biggest weekly decline on record this past week, dragging the benchmark index below 3,000 for the first time since April 2007, on concern government policies to curtail inflation will hurt profits. Morgan Stanley signed a preliminary agreement with Fortune Securities last year to form a venture, which has yet to be approved by the regulator. The U.S. bank already owns 34 percent of China International Capital Corp., the first Sino-foreign securities venture, as a passive investor.
[obrolan-bandar] Saudi Arabia May Announce Oil Production Increase June 22, Official Says
Saudi Arabia May Announce Oil Production Increase June 22, Official Says Sunday, June 15 2008 (Bloomberg) -- Saudi Arabia may announce an oil output increase at a meeting it will host in Jeddah on June 22 for oil producers and consumers because customers are asking for more crude, an OPEC official said today. There is more demand for Saudi oil from ``all over'' the world, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries' official said in a phone interview. He spoke on condition he not to be identified because no final decision has been taken. He declined to comment on the size of the possible increase and denied reports that the Saudi Oil Minister Ali Al-Naimi would make a statement today on oil production. The kingdom will host the Jeddah summit after oil prices more than doubled in a year to a record $139.12 a barrel on June 6. Crude oil fell on June 13 to settle at $134.86 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange as al-Naimi said prices were ``unjustified.'' Surging oil and food prices have replaced the credit squeeze as the biggest threat to the world economy, finance ministers from the Group of Eight nations said after meeting in Osaka, Japan yesterday. Higher commodity prices pose a ``serious challenge'' to global growth, they said in a statement. State-owned Saudi Aramco said June 13 that it would start pumping oil from its 500,000 barrel-a-day Khursaniyah field within a month, a project it previously had said would start operating last December. After confirming the delay in opening the field in January, Aramco said it was ready to use its spare capacity, which included 1 million barrels of Arab Light crude, to meet market demand. `Abnormally High' ``An increase of some 500,000 barrels a day would flood the market and bring prices down,'' Raja Kiwan, an analyst with PFC Energy, said by phone from Manama, Bahrain today. ``Most would go into stocks, and dispel rumors that the Saudis don't have spare capacity that they can bring on stream quickly.'' Saudi's King Abdullah will do ``what he can'' to bring oil prices down to ``adequate levels,'' the United Nations Secretary- General Ban Ki-Moon said after meeting the monarch late yesterday, Agence France-Presse reported today. The king told Ban that oil prices are ``abnormally high,'' AFP reported. Saudi Arabia pumped 9.134 million barrels of crude a day last month, according to a monthly report from OPEC June 13, which cited secondary sources including analysts and news agencies. The country's crude output was 9.25 million barrels a day in May, according to Bloomberg estimates. `Calm Market Sentiment' The kingdom last month said it would ship an additional 300,000 barrels a day of crude from June to satisfy customer demand. ``Saudi output of 10 million barrels a day would be sufficient to calm market sentiment in the short-term, but OPEC members will ask what it means for the second half of the year, when things may cool off price-wise,'' Kiwan said. The world has enough oil, OPEC said in its monthly report published June 13, blaming the price surge on market speculators and rejecting argument of oil consumers including the U.S. that there's a shortage of supply. OPEC President Chakib Khelil last week ruled out the possibility that the group will raise output to curb prices, saying that supply is ``more than enough''. Iran, Venezuela and Libya ministers concurred that there is no need for an output increase.
[obrolan-bandar] China Stocks Cheaper Than U.S. Shares for First Time Since 2006
China Stocks Cheaper Than U.S. Shares for First Time Since 2006 June 13, 2008 (Bloomberg) -- Chinese stocks became cheaper than U.S. shares for the first time in more than two years relative to earnings after the country's central bank told lenders to set aside a record amount of money in reserve to curb inflation. The 44 percent slump this year in China's CSI 300 Index, the steepest decline among the world's 20 biggest equity markets, closed the price-earnings gap with the Standard Poor's 500 Index from a 127 percent premium at the start of 2008, data compiled by Bloomberg show. The gauge of Chinese companies traded in Shanghai and Shenzhen is valued at 21.82 times earnings, compared with 21.84 for the SP 500. The last time the CSI 300 traded at a discount to the benchmark for American equities was in March 2006. Investors should buy Chinese stocks after the shares' recent declines and because companies in the nation will have ``much better'' pricing power on slower inflation, JPMorgan Chase Co. said. JPMorgan named Anhui Conch Cement Co., Sinotruk (Hong Kong) Ltd., and Industrial and Commercial Bank of China Ltd. as its top China picks, according to a report released today. China Shenhua Energy Co., the nation's No. 1 coal producer, and China Petroleum Chemical Corp., its largest refiner, were also among the brokerage's favored stocks. ``Investors may want to start buying China again,'' analysts at JPMorgan including Frank Gong wrote. Gong's team was ranked the best China researchers by Institutional Investor magazine's fund manager survey this year.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mendingan Crash dechh....
benar pada asik nonton bola. makanya indeks crash dulu. hihi.. ngomong2, even sebesar piala eropa, koq euro melemah thd dollar ya any comment ?? --- On Wed, 6/11/08, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mendingan Crash dechh To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:54 PM lagi sibuk taruhan PIALA EROPA On 6/11/08, thomaszone_2000 thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com wrote: Gw suka bull nih... tapi kalo gini mending crash dech ya... sep ii banget. kaya kuburan Bandar2 and Bozz Bozz kayaknya lagi liburan ato field trip nih Sepii abizz...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Cina panik sesaat???
ohya...dengar 100 bps ya. cukup besar, di luar perkiraan pasar. tetapi market china memang agak hancur2an beberapa minggu ini, kalo crash ... tidak tanggung2, bisa diatas 3% per hari wow. hari ini saja turun 7.7%. paling besar di market asia. Btw, tampaknya DOW Jon malam ini akan turun [dilihat dari indeks futures] --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cina panik sesaat??? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 3:29 PM Di Cina turun besar karena kenaikan reserve ratio banknya, disamping kemarin udah naik tinggi, ini cuma shock theraphy???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Hati2 senin Besok !
dengar2 sih, downtrend masih belum berakhir, menjelang pemilu AS, kondisi politik - ekonomi masih labil. Apalagi ada issue, bahwa, para konglomerat AS kurang menyukai Obama menjadi presiden AS, mungkin berkaitan dengan isue SARA. atau apalah saya kurang tahu pasti. Bagi yang trading margin, harap berhati2 sebab market masih labil. bisa2 kena margin call tuh/ he..he ok. --- On Sun, 6/8/08, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Re: Hati2 Jumat Besok ! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 10:24 AM Hati2 IHSG kans ke 2000 sangat besar apalagi kalau level 2220, 2157 ditembus, hati2 aja. Kalau DOW nggak bisa ditahan di 12200 (level close semalam) maka ada kans retest 11700. Kalau level 11700 nggak bisa ditahan maka 1-10500 sudah di depan mata. Kabar baiknya: level 12200 sudah ditest beberapa kali dan membal. Ada kans Senin malam DOW membal ... probability sekitar 30-40%. On 6/7/08, salomonrobinson@ yahoo.com wrote: Udah hati-hati tinggal kejedut hari Senin. DJIA membara oic. BSDE PART II CTRP (May be Yes, May be No)? Tahan di CPO, COAL OIL maka hijau IHSG. Atau jangan jangan BD lagi taruhan Swiss vs Ceko. Pilih Ceko a
[obrolan-bandar] Re: HARGA MINYAK DIPREDIKSI TURUN MINGGU DEPAN
world news: bom kembali meledak di Algerian. berita buruk bagi crude oilnbsp; nbsp;oohnbsp;tidak. nbsp; nbsp; 'Twelve die' in Algerian blasts Last updated at 01:04 GMT, Monday, 9 June 2008 02:04 UK At least 12 people have been killed by two explosions at a train station east of the Algerian capital. Two bombs detonated within minutes in the town of Beni Amrane in Boumerdes region, 50km (30 miles) from Algiers. The first bomb killed a French citizen and his Algerian driver as they were leaving the town's railway station. The second device exploded as rescue workers arrived. No group has claimed the bombings, which follow attacks blamed on al-Qaeda-aligned militants. The Frenchman was an engineer working for a French firm on a renovation project at the station. French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner condemned the attack. I want to express my feeling of disgust and my absolute condemnation of this blind terrorist violence that nothing can justify, he said in a statement. Mr Kouchner praised the Algerian people and authorities who were fighting with courage and determination the scourge of terrorism. Al-Qaeda campaign? Three employees of the same company were wounded by a bomb attack last September, which was claimed by the al-Qaeda in Islamic North Africa group. A bomb attack by suspected Islamist militants killed six soldiers in the same province on Thursday. That strike came a day after a bomber attacked barracks in eastern Algiers. Security forces have blamed a group calling itself Al-Qaeda in Islamic North Africa for the attacks. In December, the group claimed responsibility for a suicide attack on a UN building in Algiers, in which 41 people were killed. Al-Qaeda in Islamic North Africa is the by-product of an Islamist militia that waged battle with the government throughout much of the 1990s. The group, which adopted its new name last year, has tried to assassinate President Bouteflika and appears to be modelling its attacks on al-Qaeda in using suicide bombs and targeting international symbols such as the UN. The group's ambition is to create a broad, al-Qaeda-inspired jihadist across North Africa. Last year when al-Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al Zawahiri, urged the group's supporters in the region to cleanse it of Spaniards and French. --- On Mon, 6/9/08, wencen79 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: wencen79 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HARGA MINYAK DIPREDIKSI TURUN MINGGU DEPAN To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 10:33 AM Tomorrow Crude Oil certainly 145
[obrolan-bandar] Analysts Lose 17% for Investors in Brokerage
Analysts Lose 17% for Investors in Brokerage June 6, 2008 (Bloomberg) -- Investors who followed the advice of analysts who say when to buy and sell shares of brokerage firms and banks lost 17 percent in the past year, twice the decline of the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Buying shares on the advice of Merrill Lynch Co.'s Guy Moszkowski, the top-ranked brokerage analyst in Institutional Investor's annual survey, cost investors 17 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Deutsche Bank AG analyst Michael Mayo's counsel to purchase New York-based Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. lost 59 percent. Citigroup Inc.'s Prashant Bhatia still rates Merrill ``buy'' after its 56 percent retreat from a January 2007 record. Of the 38 analysts tracked by Bloomberg who follow stocks in the Amex Securities Broker/Dealer Index, 31 produced losses for investors. Investors who bought brokerages on ``buy'' recommendations, sold when they switched to ``hold'' and speculated prices would decline when analysts said ``sell,'' lost 17 percent in the last year through June 3, compared with the SP 500's 8.5 percent drop. ``One would expect that if there was any industry Wall Street estimates would be more precise on, it would be their own,'' said Richard Weiss, who oversees $60 billion as chief investment officer at City National Bank in Beverly Hills, California. ``But this particular debacle was so global in nature and pervasive, you can't blame them for missing this one.'' The Amex index of 11 companies fell 38 percent in the past 12 months as the meltdown of the subprime mortgage market forced the world's biggest financial firms to report $386 billion of losses and writedowns. `Worst Excesses' ``Ten years ago, the expectation was that analysts would simply avoid the worst excesses,'' Bove said in an interview. ``The idea was just to beat the benchmark. Today, analysts have got to make you money in both up and down markets. You don't have any excuse.'' Bove said other analysts may have made money-losing recommendations because they based their reports on brokerage earnings rather than examining risk in credit markets. Peabody and Devine didn't return calls seeking comment. Analysts lost influence after 10 securities firms paid $1.4 billion in 2003 to settle allegations that they used tainted research to promote investment banking clients. Regulation FD, a Securities and Exchange Commission rule implemented in 2000, prevents companies from disclosing information to analysts that they don't tell the public.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mau tidak crash once more?
iya donk... kasih tau siapa tau aja bener. he..he dapet dari MAMA LAUREN ya ? --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Ally McProfit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ally McProfit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mau tidak crash once more? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 3:22 PM Ihya pak, tgl main jam pertunjukan- nya ya luv, ally --- oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine you.can.call. me.elaine@ wrote: *Biar seru saja. ^_^ this month maybe? Elaine bosan.. Elaine** * Emangnya Eloe aja yg tahu...LOL Gimana kalau saya kasih tahu tanggalnya sekalian?? This month? Next week??? Hohoho... Good Luck!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mau tidak crash once more?
saya juga dengar kabar dari forum channel news asia. belum tahu pasti info itu betul apa tdk. Kalau ada panic selling, biasanya hedge fund manager sudah dapat bocoran. Apakah ada da tanggapan dari para hedge fund manager besar/asing yg tergabung di forum ini ? --- On Fri, 6/6/08, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mau tidak crash once more? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 4:50 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Senior senior OB rata rata NEGATIF terhadap IHSG... Senior OB yg masif POSITIF terhadap IHSG ada engga ?. SIP : HENDRIK senior udah pada cah out kali mbah, ninggalin newbie nyangkut,he3. . makanya pengen crash... benernya mungkin ngga ada cras lagi, resisten kuat di 2350 sama sekali ngga ditembus lagi. kalau tembus GASWAT, ^^ tapi buat pastikan BULL juga masih belum nunggu di 2455 jadi masih sideway kali ya dan belum ada kepastian untuk bikin crash belum ada berita yang bisa mendukung jadi menurut saya ngga akan ada crash dalam waktu dekat KECUALI X Factor Happen. contoh : DOW NYUNGSEP KE 9000 ^^ Kerusuhan (nyatanya BLT mampu menanggulangi)
[obrolan-bandar] Unwelcome News Sends Stocks in a free fall
Unwelcome News Sends Stocks in a free fall. June 06, 2008 Stocks in New York were in a free fall early Friday as traders were unnerved by another drop in monthly nonfarm payrolls, a big jump in the U.S. unemployment rate and another surge in crude-oil prices. The mood worsened after the Labor Department said that payrolls shrank by 49,000 in May and that the jobless rate surged to 5.5% from 5% in April, marking the largest increase in 22 years. Analysts were looking for a decrease of 60,000 workers and an uptick in unemployment to 5.1%. Also, the data for the prior two months were revised downward to show a loss of an additional 15,000 jobs. Peter Morici, a business professor at the University of Maryland and former director of economics at the U.S. International Trade Commission, called this fifth straight month of losses the strongest evidence yet that the economic expansion has slipped into a recession of uncertain depth and duration. That reiterates a prediction he issued yesterday. Neither of these make much sense to us, but we're stuck with them, at least until the next benchmark exercise, he said. Strip them out, and the year-over-year drop in core payrolls, 343,000, was the biggest so far in the cycle. More to come, too.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mau tidak crash once more? short sell now
yes.. ini yang aku tunggu2. sempat tegang tadi, soalnya aku tahan sell indeks Nikkei [jumat 06/06/2008]. mudah2an indeks nikkei senin turun -300 poin. --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mau tidak crash once more? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 11:27 PM Ya sudah, kalau memang lebih suka yangkut, that's your choice, I'm just sharing anyway. Member lain ada yang tahu tetapi takut di maki-maki, jadi Elaine saja yang bicara. I know EXACTLY how ppl would react to my post, ada yang mature, ada yang childish... Hey I said I was bored, and you guys surely give me a good laugh.. thanks for the replies. :D Why'd I mad on anyone? I LOVE THIS GROUP. All of you. Elaine perhatikan kalau Elaine bilang bull, semua happy dan kasih pujian. Elaine bilang crash, semua kesal dan being cynical, cari salah etc. Coba tiru Kang Ocoy, Rei, Dean, Embah or that old guy Sudjana. They're so cool on everything.. Elaine yakin mereka gain a lot. Trading is about emotion control. Elaine juga baca ada yang kesal dengan bandar dan marah-marah. Kasihan sekali.. Elaine juga tidak mau ada crash, but when It's about to come, then I have no better things to do than to anticipate it, and I suggest you do the same. But again, It's up to you. I am no santa claus, you have to catch your own fortune. Elaine On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:44 PM, ys Tjong gogreen.tjong@ gmail.com wrote: As I remember Elaine is an investor not a trader nor a problem maker. Sometime you are so admirable, but this time (this month maybe) you are so annoying. GBU anyway. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Elaine you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com wrote: Biar seru saja. ^_^ this month maybe? Elaine bosan.. Elaine
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MINYAK TEMBUS $133, PESTA CPO DAN BATUBARA
nbsp; The dollar's weakness Friday, led by a big jump in the US jobless rate, is being further aggravated by higher oil prices. And some analysts say pressure on oil is coming in part from Israel warning that it would be willing to attack Iran if the latter pursues nuclear-weapons capabilities. I don't think the dollar's move down is based on the Israel reports, but it may be trading off the higher oil. The Israel news is a bigger story in oil markets, a currency strategist said. nbsp; -Dow Jones Newswires- nbsp; nbsp; --- On Sat, 6/7/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: abdulrahim abdulrahim lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MINYAK TEMBUS $133, PESTA CPO DAN BATUBARA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 12:42 AM 2008/6/6 Bumi T lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.idgt;: gt; Banyak pengamat minyak menyatakan minyak bahkan bisa tembus $ 150 gt; gt; di Juni 2008. gt; gt; HAPPY CUAN UTK INVESTOR CPO DAN BATUBARA ! Kira2 kapan bisa pesta saham CPO pak TBUM? Soalnya sejak om TBUM bilang saham CPO bakal menggeser saham Coal dan Nickel (weekend kemaren ngomongnya), saham CPO terjun bebas semua deh. khi khi khi (seemingly, some bandars are watching you) Klo gak nunggu deviden, udah gw buang semua tuh AALI.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saya punya pertanyaan...
sangatsangatsangat berpengaruh bagi bursa saham Apalagi jika bencana alam, serangan teroris, maupun sosial [kerusuhan] terjadi di negara2 yang memiliki kapitalisasi besar seperti AS. Kita bisa membuka chart history, misalnya serangan teroris September 2001, dalam dua hari dow jon turun hampir 5 persen dan indeks asia Hang Seng, mencapai 8 %. Ada juga badai katrina di AS beberapa waktu yg lalu. Indeks dunia pun ikut turun. Gempa bumi di China bulan ini , sempat membuat indeks bursa saham shanghai drop selama 1 minggu lebih. Jadi bagi yang trading indeks futures, maupun single stock peristiwa penting ini bisa menjadi moment untuk short selling. untukk mendapatkan profit besar. --- On Sat, 5/24/08, Bernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saya punya pertanyaan... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 10:06 PM Legenda Wall Street, Jesse Livermore pernah cuan gede dari dampak gempa San Fransisco dengan ngeshort. Salah satu profit yang bikin dia jadi raja short sell On 5/24/08, wencen79 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Para senior, saya mau tanya nih. Jika terjadi bencana dahsyat di US,misalnya gempa besar, apakah akan membuat bursa saham disana hancur? trus kalau hancur, apakah berpengaruh besar dgn bursa global? thx atas jawabannya.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: TIME TO SELL AND EMPTY YOUR PORTO???
namun kondisi tahun 2005 tidak sama dengan kondisi sekarang. dimana pada tahun 2005, ekonomi global masih stabil. dan kenaikan BBM hanya berefek pada bursa lokal. sedikit juga di asia. Namun sekarang, market diseluruh dunia sedang kacau. Apalagi Amerika yang merupakan kiblat bursa dunia. Jumat kemarin di rilis data April Home sales turun 1%. dan banyak analis memprediksikan bahwa ekonomi AS sedang menuju resesi [ belum berakhir ] hingga 2009, We've got a background that is very unwelcome for equity markets, this uneasy combination of slower, stagnating growth with rising inflation, primarily induced by rising commodity prices A survey of over 70 US hedge fund managers and their advisors found that most have a broadly pessimistic view on the prospects for the US economy in 2008. Most hedge fund managers had a pessimistic view of the US economy. Over 80% said US economic growth by the end of the year will either be negative or stagnant, according to a poll by Kinetic Partners --- On Sat, 5/24/08, rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TIME TO SELL AND EMPTY YOUR PORTO??? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 6:56 PM tahun 2005 dan 2008 kejadian sama, tapi ga sama persis 2005 kenaikan BBM tinggi sekali, mungkin sekitar 80% di banding tahun ini 28% tahun ini, Index sudah memulai gelombang koreksi nya dari Feb, dan di ulang lagi april, dimana koreksi2 ini juga dipengaruhi oleh kenaikan Oil global sebagai faktor external, kemudian spekulasi kenaikan bbm di dalam negri, kenaikan inflasi dan terakhir kenaikan suku bunga secara bertahap Fear dan greedy memeng tipis bedanya, sebenarnya hampir semuanya trader sudah mengetahui rencana kenaikan bbm 28% hari sabtu dinihari, karena sudah ada sosialisasi beberapa hari sebelumnya, bahkan sesi 1 hari jumat kelihatan nya tidak banyak yang menghiraukan kenaikan bbm, dalam waktu hitungan jam, berubah jadi fear, index langsung terjun di sesi 2 Tapi saya yakin, kali ini hanya shock impact asja, tidak akan mengulang efek tahun 2005 , mungkin hanya beberapa hari koreksi, setelah itu akan rally lagi Lim_Lie_ Cie lim_lie_cie@ hotmail.com wrote: All, Berdasarkan pengalaman di tahun 2005, index kita mengalami koreksi sekitar 10% setelah kenaikan harga BBM. Namun sebelum pengumuman kenaikan harga BBM index saat itu udah mengalami kejatuhan sebesar 20% pada bulan agustus 2005. Tahun ini index kita dari awal tahun sudah mengalami banyak turbulensi dan kejatuhan sebesar kurang lebih 30%. Apakah index kali ini akan mengalami penurunan lagi sebesar 10% lagi? Namun yang pasti, hari jumat kemaren index kita mengalami bearish engulfing.. Kalao dilihat dari index hari jumat sesi 2, index kita akan mengalami bearish. Bagi para trader boleh profit taking dulu...namun buat para investor boleh buy on weakness seperti Elaine :) Make the most of what you can do on your PC and the Web, just the way you want. Windows Live
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Toxic Derivatives
sejak dahulu kala, memang seperti itu. yang punya dana besar, bisa mempermainkan harga dunia. misalnya spekulator besar seperti Mr.George Soros, dia hanya salah satu dari market maker dunia masih banyak lagi kelompok2 spekulator lainnya. .. Ada juga uang2 negara yang sengaja diparkir disana. dan itu biasanya atas izin pejabat negara. Kenapa indonesia tidak pernah berpikir untuk melakukan hedge ya? apakah SDM masih kurang ? misalnya di pasar crude oil. Toh...kalo harga minyak naik, masih ditahan oleh posisi long/buy kalo turun, yang diuntungkan adalah harga subsidi. :-) he..he --- On Sun, 5/25/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Toxic Derivatives To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 5:14 AM Setuju Bro...Maslaahnya, paper trading jumlahnya lebih bejibun dibanding real trading..Makanya kmrn OPEC bingung felix gunawan bluehangseng@ yahoo.com wrote: APABILA, transaksi komoditi dibarengin dengan pengiriman barang, Saya rasa transaksi perusak ini akan berkurang drastis. Karena sang pembeli yg menaikkan harga terus alias menggoreng di papan trading room akan dibarengin dengan pengiriman barang yg sebenarnya ke alamat dia. MF global, salah satu pemain kontrak komoditi dunia, pada saat saya bicara dengan mereka ..mreka tidak mau mengirim barangnya. Jadi bener2 maunya main buy open n sell close. apabila barang dikirim kealamat si pemilik option buy tersebut, tentu itu barang mau gak mau dia akn jual lagi ke pasar dan otomatis harga REAL dipasar kan turun. Kcuali dia punya gudang bawah tanah seperti gudang penyimpanan oil di amrik di bawah tanah. Tapi mau sampai berapa dia tarik dan mau seberapa banyak dia simpen. - Original Message From: TH teddy.halim@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 5:03:40 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Toxic Derivatives http://www.kompas. com/kompascetak. php/read/ xml/2008/ 02/29/0048145 Baca ttg derivatif beracuni ini yg bisa membawa krisis baru yg besar. Sumber tulisan Kompas itu dari tulisan Paul B.Farrel : di Market Watch.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger .yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Gold Price Above $900, Oil Sets Record Near $128
Gold Price Above $900, Oil Sets Record Near $128 May 16, 2008 -- Gold prices have hit $905 an ounce on the New York exchange market, rising from $882 late last week. Rapidly rising oil prices, which reached $128 a barrel, have sparked a buying spree. Silver has also risen in price, reaching $17 an ounce. Earlier this year gold prices broke the $1,000 an ounce barrier before falling back again. Financial analysts believe gold could hit $2,500 an ounce within a few years. THE RISING PRICE OF OIL isn't just swelling Americans' energy bills — it's also holding back their stock portfolios. Wall Street got some seemingly auspicious signs last week about home construction and consumer level inflation. But with oil climbing to new records, and more reports expected this week on rising prices and the housing market, investors are holding on to a conservative stance. Oil's stubborn trek to record highs is a major reason why investors have yet to push the major indexes into positive territory for the year. Just this month, crude has so far tacked on about $13 to breach $127 a barrel, while the price tag on a gallon of gasoline for the average U.S. driver has soared 17 cents to nearly $3.79. Those price surges cast an air of skepticism over last week's report from the Labor Department showing a modest 0.2 percent uptick in consumer prices in April. Meanwhile, the Commerce Department's upbeat report on housing starts also met with some doubt among investors, particularly because the huge rise was due mostly to apartment construction, which can vary widely from month to month. Still the market, betting that better times are not that far off, finished the week with a solid advance. The Dow Jones industrial average rose 1.89 percent, while the Standard Poor's 500 index gained 2.67 percent and the Nasdaq composite index picked up 3.41 percent So are we at an inflection point in housing right now? Very possibly. But let's be clear here. Nothing in the data suggests we're about to see a sharp rebound, wrote Bernard Baumohl of the Economic Outlook Group LLC in a research note. We are still looking for oil to ease off and for the dollar to rise off the floor. Without those moves, even if we have good earnings for Q1, we won’t be able to assume the consumer can hold up in Q2. (APP)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] 1000+ points rally is about to come... but not soon..
he.he buy on dips ya !! bisa saja ke 2000 ... [beli lagi]. Inflation numbers are going to stay high for a while and there's no sign of relief on that front, and that's going to make life very difficult for the most people [around the world] --- On Wed, 5/14/08, tumis kangkung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: tumis kangkung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: 1000+ points rally is about to come... but not soon.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 5:58 PM YES, when u said your 2000 target, I really love it ! On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Elaine you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com wrote: Re-post. Read the BIG ONES. Kalau ikut Elaine pick di bottom last month, AT LEAST you've gained around 50%-100%. (But I dunno your stockpick, so it depends. But you can't be that stupid). The answer for the trivia is #1. Strong US Dollar. I'm too good to be true, so I'll just say lol :) Don't worry, we still have a looong way to go. Elaine -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com Date: Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:27 AM Subject: 1000+ points rally is about to come... but not soon.. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com MY 2 CENTS Credit crunch, weak dollar, carrytrade unwind, commodity bubble, recession, Structural damage, Election Syndrome, oil surges, Outflows, Redemption, tanda alam, ... etc etc.. Conclusion: Super bearish. Yes, we're all aware of that, thank you. BUT... someone here asked me about the bull, well I have this.. This year (obviously NOT this month) you'll see a slow yet unstoppable 1000+ points rally that could last for months. Please print this email and stick it on the wall. I can guarantee you IF you can sucessfully pick ANY bluechips at the bottom, at the end of this year you can get a filthy 50% gain to say the least, 100% if you're good. Up to 400% if you're that lucky. Fair enough? :) Now, the big question is where is the bottom at?, I'll give that to you to think my dear friends.. Trivia: Give me your best analysis on this, which is the best possible TRIGGER? Is it: 1. Strong US dollar, rejecting the rate cut = weak dollar myth 2. Money flow from commodity markets e.g. Gold/Oil crash 3. After the Judgement Day (you know what this is, the war to end all war, make a guess..) You can use technical, fundamental, whatever you like, just give me some feedback. Maybe I can then contribute something useful so you can love me more (lol forgive me for being bitchy..) To elaine haters=Now I'm challenging you to have your words instead of whining like an old fart..lol. Don't be so intimidated by women, we're good on this,... right Mimi? I'm aware that some of the members here always think I was a man, because they think women can't do better than men and it sucks for men to get beaten up by women. lol.. Mind my manners, this' just business. Don't underestimate women, we're far better on handling resources like wealth, information and, of course, men. So take your time, make some analysis, while I prepare the remaining ICBMs.. Don't worry too much about my 2000 target (as just confirmed by Oentoeng, he's good). It's just an entry point. You'll love it like I do. Elaine
[obrolan-bandar] Indonesia c.bank Raises Key Rate; Says May `Adjust' Further
Indonesia c.bank Raises Key Rate; Says May `Adjust' Further May 6 -- Indonesia's central bank unexpectedly raised interest rates for the first time in more than two years to tame inflation and said it will consider further increases. Bank Indonesia raised the benchmark rate used as a reference for bill sales to 8.25 percent from 8 percent, acting Governor Miranda Goeltom said in Jakarta today. The decision was predicted by just three of 18 economists surveyed by Bloomberg Soaring prices of food and kerosene propelled inflation to 9 percent last month in Southeast Asia's largest economy. Indonesia's government is preparing to increase fuel costs by as much as 30 percent, which may further stoke price gains. ``Bank Indonesia is taking a lead here,'' said Lim Su Sian, an economist with DBS Group Holdings Ltd. in Singapore. ``It's a signal that they are doing something to control prices, though their ability to bring inflation down is limited.'' Lim expects the central bank to raise its benchmark rate to 8.75 percent by the end of the year. ``Today's move suggests that Bank Indonesia's main policy concern has shifted from growth to inflation,'' Matt Hildebrandt, a Singapore-based economist at JPMorgan Chase Co, said in a note to clients. China, India and Pakistan have raised borrowing costs this year as Asian nations grapple with record food and fuel prices. Philippine central bank Governor Amando Tetangco said today he would ``act decisively'' to contain inflation expectations. The Reserve Bank of India on April 29 unexpectedly ordered lenders to set aside more funds for the second time in less than two weeks, raising its cash reserve ratio to 8.25 percent from 8 percent. China last month increased its limit for the third time this year to a record 16 percent. Here is a partial text of some key comments translated from a statement released by Bank Indonesia after its policy meeting. Inflationary pressures are seen higher due to high global commodity prices and domestic factors related to the high consumption of non-food items. To manage expectations, Bank Indonesia will continue to adjust BI rate in line with inflation trend. High inflationary pressures on the core inflation are influenced by expectations of higher commodity prices and market expectations of a fuel price hike. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJ mulai MERAH
High 13,132.46 Low 12,981.83 Stocks up sharply in morning trading before pulling back in the afternoon, but ended the day in positive territory. Dow Jones industrial average up 0.4 percent for the day, to close at 13,058.40. --- icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wah...watch out 4 monday... Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Hot News Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Offer After Sweetened Bid Is Rejected
Microsoft Abandons Yahoo Takeover After Price Fight SAN FRANCISCO - Microsoft Corp withdrew its offer for Yahoo Inc on Saturday after negotiations fell through because Yahoo wanted more than the $33 a share that Microsoft was willing to offer. Microsoft Corp. has withdrawn its $42.3 billion bid to buy Yahoo Inc. In a letter to Yahoo Chief Executive Jerry Yang, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said the company raised its offer by about $5 billion to $33 a share, but Yahoo wanted $37 a share. Despite our best efforts, including raising our bid by roughly $5 billion, Yahoo! has not moved toward accepting our offer, Ballmer said in a statement. After careful consideration, we believe the economics demanded by Yahoo! do not make sense for us, and it is in the best interests of Microsoft stockholders, employees and other stakeholders to withdraw our proposal, said Ballmer. ``Unbelievable,'' said Laura Martin, an analyst at New York- based Soleil Securities Corp. ``This is management putting its employees and its job security ahead of current Yahoo shareholders' interest.'' But the breakdown in the talks is likely to send Yahoo's shares plunging and generate uncertainty among investors about the company's management. Yahoo has been exploring alternatives to Microsoft's bid, including a search advertising partnership with Google, which could lift its profits and perhaps its stock price, analysts say. Yahoo Shares She estimated Yahoo shares will fall $8, or 28 percent, on Monday (May 05) because Microsoft's withdrawal combined with concern about the economy and the advertising market will weigh on investors. Yahoo, the second most popular Internet search engine, rose $1.86 to $28.67 yesterday in Nasdaq Stock Market trading. Microsoft fell 16 cents to $29.24. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Oil rebounds nearly $4 a barrel to 116.32
Oil rebounds nearly $4 a barrel to 116.32 May 3, 2008 Crude oil rose nearly $4 a barrel in New York, the most in month, after a report showed the U.S. lost fewer jobs than forecast in April and as Turkey renewed its military offensive against Kurdish rebels in an oil-rich section of Iraq. The unemployment number wasn't anywhere near as bad as expected, said Kyle Cooper, an analyst at IAF Advisors in Houston. Maybe the economy isn't falling into the abyss and demand won't fall as much as expected. At the New York Mercantile Exchange, rose $3.80, or 3.4 percent, to settle at $116.32 a barrel, the first increase in four days. It was the biggest gain since April 2. Futures, which have climbed 83 percent from a year ago, are down 1.9 percent this week. It could go up just a little bit more, said Fred Rozell, retail pricing director at the Oil Price Information Service, in Wall, N.J., but, I think it's running out of steam. The dollar rose to a five-week high against the euro after the smaller-than-expected job loss last month, which may indicate the labor market is weathering the economic slowdown. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Stocks Settle Lower After Fed Meeting
Stocks Settle Lower After Fed Meeting Wall Street's data-inspired rally faded into the close Wednesday, and the major indices finished slightly lower after traders and analysts found themselves struggling to discern the Federal Reserve's intentions on the future direction of interest rates. The Dow Jones Industrial Average, up nearly 180 points earlier, squandered all of those gains to end down 11.81 points, or 0.09%, at 12,820.13. The SP 500 shed 5.35 points, or 0.38%, at 1385.59, and the Nasdaq Composite lost 13.3 points, or 0.55%, to 2412.80. The story of the day was the Fed, which cut its fed funds target by 25 basis points, taking the overnight interbank lending rate to 2% and extending a series of reductions that have lowered rates by 325 basis points since September. The discount rate, or that at which the Fed lends money to banks, was also lowered by a quarter-point, to 2.25%. In its decision, the Federal Open Market Committee, the policymaking arm of the Fed, cited financial markets that remain under considerable stress, a softening labor market, tight credit conditions and the deepening housing contraction. The downturn in the stock market came as the FOMC set off a debate about whether it might pause the rate-easing cycle or continue to cut. Notably, the Fed removed language from its statement about risks being weighted to the downside. The substantial easing of monetary policy to date, combined with ongoing measures to foster market liquidity, should help to promote moderate growth over time and to mitigate risks to economic activity, the FOMC statement said. While a number of observers felt the central bank was signaling that it will keep rates on hold, not everyone was convinced. Richard Yamarone, chief economist with Argus Research, said, The Fed's shut the door on rate cuts, but it's unlocked. It's only unlocked in the event that there's some financial calamity which forces them to reopen the door, but for all intents and purposes, I think this rate-cutting campaign has ended. Brian Bethune, chief financial economist with Global Insight, said: If the Fed is right, then wonderful. We're finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. But if the Fed is premature in terms of the decision to pause, then that could be problematic. As a result, the market was having trouble digesting the Fed's stance, he said. I think there's a sense that [traders would] love to believe this is the end. But then our gut is telling us that it's too good to be true, and that the headwinds we're facing suggest that the Fed may not have written the final chapter here. Meanwhile, Marc Pado, U.S. market economist with Cantor Fitzgerald, said the U.S. dollar weakened because he believed the Fed didn't entirely set aside the possibility of further rate cuts. People were looking for resistance to come in at 13,000 [on the Dow] anyway, so they started pounding it, he said. They weren't pounding it for any fundamental reason. The upside trade had been made, so they just got on it. Pado noted that there are eight weeks between this Fed meeting and the next. That's a lot of time for things to change, so I think the statement can be seen as, they're comfortable with this through eight weeks, and then they will reassess. The Fed also mentioned the relentless upward drive in commodities prices lately and said that it will continue to monitor those developments carefully, but is expecting inflation to moderate in coming quarters. Still, said Pado, the Fed could have gotten away with something a lot firmer, especially with oil up around $120. The key to the weakness in that statement was that they still expect inflation pressure to subside in the second half of the year. Two members of the FOMC-- Richard Fisher of Dallas and Charles Plosser of Philadelphia -- dissented from the decision, preferring no cut at all. Both also disagreed with the last reduction, citing inflationary worries. Ryan Detrick, senior technical strategist with Schaeffer's Investment Research, said, in the short term, I think it really shows how much volatility Fed days really do bring. It takes a couple of days for things to play out. Detrick also noted that the SP appeared to be approaching resistance at the 1400 level, and that investors may be looking for another catalyst to bring it over the top. The Fed has done a lot for the market, but what people want to see are economic numbers turning around, and we haven't quite seen that yet, he said. As for equities, buyers had the edge earlier in the day after the Commerce Department issued a preliminary gross domestic product report that showed growth of 0.6% in the first quarter, a hair higher than consensus and flat with last quarter. GDP numbers often undergo revisions. If they remain substantively accurate, though, they would indicate that the U.S. economy, at least for now, has avoided a recession, contrary to what many economists and consumers previously
[obrolan-bandar] Soros sees additional market declines after temporary reprieve in stock market
Soros sees additional market declines after temporary reprieve in stock market. May 1 - Billionaire George Soros called the current financial crisis the worst since the Great Depression and said markets will fall more this year after a brief rebound. Soros reported that they had a good bottom, referring to the rally in stocks. He stated that this would probably not prove to be the final bottom, adding the recovery might last 6 weeks to 3 months as the U.S. moves closer to recession. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tancap Gas
Don't be fooled by a larger-than-expected increase in consumer spending. People aren't buying more -- they're just paying more for what they buy. That is raising doubts about whether the 130 million stimulus payments the government began sending out this week will be enough to lift consumers' sagging spirits. The Commerce Department reported Thursday that consumer spending was up 0.4 percent, double the increase economists had forecast. However, once inflation was removed, spending edged up a much slower 0.1 percent. The March reading was the fourth straight lackluster performance and did nothing to alleviate worries that consumer spending, which accounts for two-thirds of total economic activity, remains under severe strains, reflecting an economy beset by multiple problems. Rising food costs, soaring energy prices and falling employment have pushed consumer confidence to its lowest levels in five years. Incomes in March rose a weak 0.3, but after removing inflation, after-tax incomes were flat. Sal Guatieri, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets, said economic growth could still turn negative this quarter even with the rebates. He cited a recent Associated Press-Ipsos poll that found only 19 percent of people plan to spend their rebates, with others surveyed preferring instead to use the $600 to $1,200 checks for the typical family to pay off bills or boost savings. Guatieri said he expected the rebate checks to be a moderate tonic, but he cautioned that once the rebates are spent, growth could turn negative later this year. On Wall Street, investors brushed aside weak economic reports to focus instead on a rebound in the dollar's value against other currencies and falling oil prices. The Dow Jones industrial average surged 189.87 points to close at 13,010.00, the first close above 13,000 since Jan. 3. The government reported Wednesday that the overall economy, as measured by the gross domestic product, eked out a 0.6 percent growth in the first three months of this year, weak but still in positive territory. Much of the drag in the first quarter came from a tiny 1 percent growth in consumer spending, the weakest increase since the economy was last in recession in 2001. Some analysts are worried that the GDP could turn negative this quarter if there is a significant cutback on production by businesses trying to work off excess inventories and if consumers grow more glum in the face of continued increases in unemployment. The Labor Department reported Thursday that jobless claims jumped by a bigger-than-expected 35,000 last week to total 380,000 with the number of people receiving benefit checks rising to 3.02 million, the first time that figure has surpassed 3 million in four years. In other signs of economic stress, the Commerce Department said Thursday that construction spending fell 1.1 percent in March with housing activity plunging by a record 4.6 percent, indicating builders are still cutting back sharply in the face of the worst slump in housing in more than two decades. On the inflation front, a price gauge tied to consumer spending rose by 0.3 percent in March, triple the 0.1 percent rise in February. Much of that jump reflected higher food and energy costs. Core inflation, which excludes those categories, rose by 0.2 percent in March and is up 2.1 percent over the past 12 months, higher than the Fed's 1 percent to 2 percent comfort zone. If that performance continues, it would fly in the face of the sell in May or June, and go away suggests the possibility, not the probability, that recent euphoric moves in equity prices and credit market spreads might be premature. --- farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Oentoeng...bilang ama sopirnya untuk tancap gaskemon Bang... - Original Message From: Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 10:22:48 AM Subject: PERAMAL IHSG PALING KREDIBEL Re: [?? Probable Spam] [obrolan-bandar] MINING turun GANTIAN DONG Sejujurnya saya kagum sekali sama Embah. Menurut saya, beliau adalah peramal TREN IHSG paling kredible di milis ini. Timingnya sangat akurat dengan keyakinan diri (self confidence) yang sangat tinggi. Ramalannya bener-bener ahead of trend, bukannya follow trend. Ramalan-ramalan lain biasanya follow trend. Waktu indeks bearish, meramal bakal bearish. Waktu indeks sudah bullish, meramal bakal bullish. Embah nanya ke Mama Lauren ya? :-) (Just kidding) Rgds, RW - Original Message - From: www.titan To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [obrolan-bandar] MINING turun GANTIAN DONG Shm2 BC naik, kecuali tbumi :D Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] Stock Rebound May Be Premature
Stock Rebound May Be Premature A recent euphoric rebound in stocks and non-government bonds may be premature as deeper home price declines threaten the economy and financial markets, the manager of the world's biggest bond fund said. Bill Gross, chief investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co. (PIMCO), also warned that additional interest rate cuts by the Federal Reserve may do harm by weakening the dollar further and stoking inflation. The Federal Reserve has slashed the benchmark U.S. federal funds target rate by 3 percentage points since September to 2.25 percent. The letter -- likening the market turmoil of the past year to trench warfare -- warns investors against jumping too quickly to the conclusion that the bloodshed in financial markets is over, despite the comparative tranquility of financial markets in recent weeks. Since the Federal Reserve and JPMorgan Chase Co's rescue of Bear Stearns Cos in mid-March, the U.S. SP 500 index has rebounded by about 9 percent to the highest levels since early January. Recession, and its vicious-cycle effect on employment and consumer spending, remains a threat, and this recession, although currently mild and as of yet not even officially validated, may not be your garden-variety ... downturn, Gross said. suggests the possibility, not the probability, that recent euphoric moves in equity prices and credit market spreads might be premature. he wrote. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Fed Cuts Key Rate 25 BPs to 2% ; Pause Now Likely
The U.S. Federal Reserve on Wednesday lowered its key interest rate but also signaled the seven-month easing cycle may be coming to an end by referring to substantial action to date and dropping a reference to downside growth risks. The cut, the seventh since September, was modest by recent standards, reflecting upward pressure on inflation from higher food and energy prices and the weak dollar. Those trends suggest further rate cuts might do more harm than good in the months ahead. The Federal Open Market Committee voted 8-2 to lower its target for the fed funds rate at which banks lend money to each other by 0.25 percentage point to 2%, its lowest since November 2004. It lowered the discount rate charged to banks and brokers that borrow directly from the Fed by 0.25 percentage point to 2.25%, responding to requests by Fed banks in New York, Cleveland, Atlanta and San Francisco. The moves were widely expected, according to a Dow Jones Newswires survey. Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher and Philadelphia Fed President Charles Plosser dissented for a second-straight meeting, this time favoring no change in rates. It is the sixth-straight dissent Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has faced on a fed-funds decision. Economic activity remains weak, the Fed said, citing subdued consumer and business spending and a further softening in labor markets. Markets remain under considerable stress, the Fed said, while housing should continue to weigh on the economy. Those statements largely reiterated March's policy statement. Barring an unforeseen collapse in the economy or financial markets, rates will probably stay where they are for several months at least, though the Fed left the door open to more cuts if needed. The substantial easing of monetary policy to date...should help to promote moderate growth over time, the Fed said. Prior policy statements hadn't described past cuts as substantial. Notably, officials dropped their previous reference to downside growth risks. They said they would act as needed to promote growth, but dropped the longstanding reference to timely action. Fed watchers usually interpret reference to cumulative actions as a sign that officials are wary to lower rates further. The Fed tried to send similar signals in the past and failed, most notably in October when it said - prematurely - that growth and inflation risks were roughly balanced. The Fed in its statement Wednesday repeated past assertions that inflation should moderate, and reiterated that it expects energy and commodity prices to flatten out. However, officials warned that those commodity prices have increased recently and that inflation uncertainty remains high. Officials nodded for a second-straight time to rising inflation expectations. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Oil Prices May Climb to $150 a Barrel, Boone Pickens Says
Oil may rise to $125 to $150 a barrel later this year, Boone Pickens, a billionaire energy investor, said today ``The second half of the year I think you'll be back up substantially above where you are now,'' Pickens said in an interview with Bloomberg's Rhonda Schaffler. Crude oil for June delivery dropped $3.12, or 2.6 percent, to settle at $115.63 a barrel at 2:58 p.m. on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the lowest close since April 17. It was the biggest one-day decline since March 31. Futures surged to a record $119.93 a barrel yesterday. Prices are 74 percent higher than a year ago. Pickens said prices eventually might rise to a level that could affect consumption. ``When I hear these politicians, I'm amused when they want to bring the price down, cause if they bring the price down it will encourage more use,'' Pickens said. ``And so then if you have more use, then demand goes up and then the price is immediately back up higher than it was before.'' A possible Brazilian discovery that could have 8 billion barrels of oil wouldn't bring dramatic changes, he said. ``The 8 billion will come in handy, and that's about all,'' Pickens said. ``It's not going to solve any problems.'' Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] World Bank President James Wolfensohn 'Pessimistic' as Financial Losses Rise
World Bank President James Wolfensohn 'Pessimistic' as Financial Losses Rise Former World Bank President James Wolfensohn said he's ``pessimistic'' on the outlook for financial markets and predicted losses from the global credit turmoil may climb to $1 trillion. ``I'm more pessimistic than optimistic,'' Wolfensohn, 74, said an interview today in London. ``That doesn't necessarily mean a crash, but it means we're not through the woods yet. There are continued dangers.'' U.S. Treasury Undersecretary Robert Steel forecast last week that tighter credit conditions ``will take a while to work through.'' Banks worldwide have reported more than $309 billion of writedowns and credit losses caused by the U.S. subprime collapse and the seizure in credit markets. ``It does seem to be a major adjustment on any level,'' Wolfensohn said, after addressing the European Pensions and Savings Summit 2008. ``There may be a $1,000 billion worth of losses in it somewhere.'' He said he ``cannot recall anything similar, certainly in the last 30 to 40 years that I've worked.'' The International Monetary Fund predicts that losses from the crisis, including those tied to commercial real-estate, may total $945 billion and says global economic expansion may be the slowest since 2003 this year. Wolfensohn said the fund's loss forecast of about $1 trillion is now a ``consensus estimate.'' Emerging Markets Emerging markets ``have enormous internal growth and are expanding in other markets such as Africa,'' he said. ``When you're walking around Beijing or Shanghai, it's hard to feel pessimistic. If you can breathe.'' Still, in the U.S. and U.K., the impact of the credit crisis ``is likely to be substantial,'' Wolfensohn said. Steel said in a Bloomberg Television interview on April 25 that there will be ``bumps and fallbacks'' as financial institutions recover from the collapse of the U.S. subprime mortgage market. Governments in the U.S. and elsewhere are doing their best to prevent the credit squeeze from deepening, Wolfensohn said. Finance ministers ``are talking about nothing else,'' he said. ``The crisis that you observe is never the same as the last one,'' Wolfensohn said. ``We have a capacity to invent new ones.'' Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Need advice: Saham BC vs. Reksadana
saat ini masih ada peluang untuk membeli reksadana, mumpung lagi diskon. for long term. hehe... --- Brandon Alvaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebenarnya yang cocok buat kasih rekomendasi itu MBAH sebagai inspirator kami ber-main sebagai Long Term Investor di BEI, Saya hanya sharing pengalaman saja, mungkin dapat berguna buat Pak HINNS : TIDAK MENGANJURKAN UNTUK MEMBELI ATAU APAPUN Th.2002 awal saya mulai maen pake modal FEELING yang berakhir hampir 50% uang saya amblass. Setelah saya baca postingan mbah spt yg dibawah ini , saya shock, bahwa saya kena TIPU main di BURSA EFEK BANDAR. dan menurut saya itu masih relevan ditahun 2008 ini. Sejak itu saya berhenti main sama sekali uang kembali kehabitatnya deposito, Kalo ada orang cerita saham saya jadi sinist ingat kata mbah. Tahun 2004 awal, ada teman yang meyakinkan saya bahwa reksadana aman, tertarik untuk menaruh sedikit demi sedikit tabungan saya disitu dan hasilnya lumayan. Bulan sept' 2004 di pesta ultah anak temen, saya bertemu kawan baik saya dari kecil yg kebetulan punya sekuritas, Kami temen-2 ngobrol sekitar saham saya tanyakan apa betul spt mbah pernah katakan, surprise krn 100% mbah katakan benar. Tapi dia katakan eh kamu nggak perlu pusingin hal itu, kamu cukup beli terus tutup mata tunggu 1 tahun hasilnya nambah nggak ? kamu pengin pensiun kaya nggak ? etc . Wah.. pulang nggak bisa tidur kepikiran terus krn depodito diketawain setelah diskusi cukup lama kami berlima dipertengahan oktober sepakat buka rekening atas nama temen dan beli saham yg direkomendasikan , semua temen saya yg ngurus krn saya trauma hanya setor uangnya saja. Hasilnya sangat bagus, jadi kami berpikir untuk menambah portofolio kami sedikit-demi sedikit setiap awal tahun dan sampai 3 tahun ini hasilnya lebih dari lumayan, tidak pernah jual apalagi Cut Loss, serta potofolio saya direksadana hanya tersisa 15% di schrodder fortis saja. Untuk Swing Trade (biasanya mingguan) kami hanya menyisihkan 10% saja dari portofolio kami untuk having fun Ngikutin para suhu OBers hasilnya ya lumayan juga sih. Biasanya kami sepakat tunggu aba-aba EMBAH SERBU BEI he he cari nomer cantik (pasukan indramayu katanya). Jadi sampai tahun 2008 ini saya masih optimist dan menambah investasi kami (Long Term Invest) di BEI. Saya open aja ini Portofolio yang kami beli dari januari hingga 25 april kemarin untuk long invest ngaak pake AV: dari 8 menjadi 10 saham, tahun ini nambah 2 yaitu ELSA LSIP. SYMBOL BELI AALI 23,400 AALI 23,800 AALI 24,450 AALI 25,000 ASII 18,700 ASII 19,050 ASII 19,200 ASII 19,800 ASII 21,450 ASII 22,450 ASII 22,500 BUMI 5,550 BUMI 6,200 BUMI 6,650 BUMI 6,700 ELSA 320 ELSA 400 INCO 6,300 INCO 6,450 INCO 6,500 INCO 6,800 INCO 7,350 LSIP 8,400 LSIP 8,550 LSIP 8,900 LSIP 9,700 PGAS === message truncated === Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Oil Rises to Record on U.K. Pipeline Shutdown, Nigeria Attack
Oil Rises to Record on U.K. Pipeline Shutdown, Nigeria Attack April 28 -- Crude oil rose to a record after BP Plc shut a North Sea pipeline and gunmen attacked a police station in Bonny Island, the site of one of Nigeria's largest oil and gas export terminals. BP closed the Forties Pipeline System, carrying 40 percent of the U.K.'s oil output, after a strike at the Grangemouth refinery cut power supplies to the network that delivers 700,000 barrels daily. Five police were killed and guns and ammunition seized in yesterday's attack in the Niger Delta where output has already been halved by strikes and attacks on pipelines. ``The production affected at the moment is pretty substantial,'' said David Moore, commodity strategist at Commonwealth Bank of Australia Ltd. in Sydney. ``It all counts nowadays. The price would suggest the market is very tight.'' Crude oil for June delivery rose as much as $1.41, or 1.2 percent, to $119.93 a barrel in after-hours electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the highest since the futures began trading in 1983. It was at $119.41 at 9:15 a.m. in Sydney. The contract gained 2.1 percent to $118.52 a barrel on April 25 when the refinery strike and pipeline closure were announced. Refinery production will resume tomorrow morning local time. Units crucial to restart flows on the Forties pipeline will have priority, Richard Longden, spokesman for operator Ineos Group Holdings Plc, said yesterday. Fed May Be Nearing Rate Pause as Inflation Quickens Federal Reserve policy makers, sensing both renewed inflation dangers and a possible economic boost from government rebate checks, may be nearing a pause in interest-rate cuts after the fastest reductions in two decades. In remarks this week, Fed Governor Kevin Warsh, San Francisco Fed President Janet Yellen and three other district- bank presidents voiced concerns about rising prices. Harvard University economist Martin Feldstein, who for almost 30 years has headed the group that decides the dates of recessions, called for an end to Fed rate cuts Investors are increasingly taking such talk, along with economic data and company earnings, as signs that the Fed will leave interest rates unchanged for the rest of the year after a quarter-point cut on April 30. The central bank has already reduced rates three times this year, to 2.25 percent. ``We are close to the end of rate cuts,'' said Dean Maki, chief U.S. economist at Barclays Capital Inc. in New York. ``The economy will be improving. Also, the inflation pressures are only intensifying at this point.'' Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Hong Kong's Exchange Fund had a loss HK$14.6 billion in 1Q
Hong Kong's Exchange Fund had a loss HK$14.6 billion in the first quarter, its first quarterly loss since 2005, Hong Kong Monetary Authority Chief Executive Joseph Yam said Monday. Of the fund's loss in the first quarter, about HK$30.0 billion was made in the domestic stock market, because the Hang Seng Index has fallen about 30% during the period. The fund reported a loss of HK$22.40 billion in overseas stocks. The investment loss in the first quarter comes after the Exchange Fund posted record earnings of HK$142.2 billion (US$18.2 billion) in 2007, up from HK$103.8 billion in 2006. In the first quarter of 2007, the fund reported investment income totaling HK20.7 billion. The Exchange Fund is used to manage Hong Kong's exchange rate and maintain financial stability. The Exchange Fund's last investment loss was in the first quarter of 2005, when it posted a loss of HK$2.1 billion. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Fed likely to cut U.S. interest rates only 0.25%
Futures traders and a growing number of economists are now expecting just a quarter-point cut to interest rates when Federal Reserve policymakers meet next week, with forecasters saying improved sentiment in financial markets has relieved pressure for a more aggressive easing. Barclays Capital late Tuesday said it had lowered its forecast for a reduction in the federal funds target rate to a quarter-percentage point cut, to 2%, where it will hold for the rest of the year. Previously, Barclays had anticipated a half-point cut, to 1.75% The current rate-cutting cycle has largely responded to developments in the financial markets, and those have improved since that last meeting, they said. There seems to be a sense in the market that perhaps the worst is behind us, said Julia Coronado, senior U.S. economist at Barclays Capital. There are still pockets of stress on Wall Street and more fallout is likely from the housing market, she cautioned. The cost of borrowing between banks, as priced in Libor, jumped last week. Still, there's a better sense of the magnitude of the problem, Coronado said. Barclays anticipates the Fed will start raising rates at its March 2009 meeting. Wall Street's fear factor, the CBOE market volatility index, has fallen to December levels And an index tracking spreads on corporate credit-default swaps, a type of tradable insurance against the possibility a company will renege on its debt, tumbled 40% from mid-March to the end of last week. The credit spreads for some of Wall Street's biggest institutions have dropped even more sharply. I suspect the cessation of rate cuts is near at hand. The Fed will likely pull the trigger on another 0.25% and not 0.5% as was initially expected at the next FOMC meeting, and send a signal that they intend to pause soon. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Bank of America Net Income Falls 77% on Writedowns
Drop in earnings far sharper than forecasts, although No. 2 bank stays in black despite writedowns NEW YORK -- Bank of America Corp. reported quarterly results Monday that were much worse than originally feared, as profits plunged 77%, but the company still managed to stay in the black. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Financial expected earnings of 41 cents per share. These results clearly did not meet our expectations, Chairman and CEO Kenneth Lewis said in a statement. The weakness in the economy and prolonged disruptions in the capital markets took their toll on our performance. Those losses helped create a significant drag on results in the company's corporate and investment banking division, where profit dived 92% during the quarter http://money.cnn.com/2008/04/21/news/companies/bankofamerica/index.htm - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] If you want to realize your profit, today'd be the day..
untuk near term, sepertinya pasar saham masih sangat
bergejolak.
paling tidak bulan mei, laporan inflasi pasti sangat
buruk (menurut saya)
sebab efek kenaikan harga minyak dunia baru terjadi di
bulan mei untuk april ini.
--- macd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paling tidak ada yg mengingatkan kita agar kita gak
terlalu berharap masih terus naik keunceng...
sementara keuntungan sudah di depan mata
Jadi gak hilang lagi gitu loh
MacD
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kalo menurut saya sich kurang tepat anjuran EL ini
pada jumat lalu.
harga BUMI pada hari senin kemarin atau hari ini,
masih lebih tinggi dari hari jumat minggu lalu
(tanggal posting EL).
saya salah satu yg ikut 'terhipnotis' ama emailnya
EL (karena kurang kuat iman), saya jual sebagian
dihari jumat (bukan CL), maka profit jadi berkurang
bila dibandingkan jika saya jual pada hari senin
kemarin.
seperti hal dilema rokok, posting EL bagi saya lebih
bayak merugikan ketimbang menguntungkan.
salam,
AR
On 4/22/08, macd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Elaine
MacD
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From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you want to sell when there are buyers who are
willing to pay with higher price, then the time is
now, OR you may want to hold them for like 40 years
like Warren Buffett. It's your call..
Wether you want to call it a tsunami, or merely a
noise, depends on your investment timeframe.
Elaine
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG kehilangan tenaga
saham2 di hong kong naik, karena para investor disana, sifatnya agresif. Berbeda kalo di indonesia, banyak an investor asing yang justru lebih dominan menggerakkan bursa IHSG. Apalagi ditambah event seperti olimpiade di beijing. ikut mempengaruhi juga pasar di hong kong ~G4Y4~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mohon tanggapan Mengapa dalam bulan-bulan terakhir ini, kayaknya IHSG kehilangan tenaga dibandingkan dengan indeks tetangga ? Di atas kita bandingkan saja IHSG dengan HSI tampak sekali perbedaannya sejak akhir bulan lalu, faktor apa yang mempengaruhinya, ya ? Salam G4Y4: FLVCTVAT NEC MERGITVR - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.image/png
[obrolan-bandar] China central bank raises bank reserve 0.5 pct
China central bank raises bank reserve requirement ratio by 0.5 pct pt 2008-4-16 05:33:00 p.m. HKT BEIJING (XFN-ASIA) - China's central bank said it is raising banks' reserve requirement ratio by half a percentage point from April 25. It said the move was in line with its tight monetary policies and aimed at guiding reasonable growth in money supply. It is the third reserve requirement hike this year, and brings the level to 16.0 pct for most banks The hike means that banks will have to set aside a bigger proportion of their funds as reserves, reducing the money available for lending. The latest announcement follows the release of first-quarter and March economic data today. ref: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068sid=aKWZ_IFAP3c4refer=home - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
