Re: [ob] FPNI - to TOM.D.S

2010-04-09 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Minggu lalu ada yang rekomendasi beli FPNI , saya ikut beli karena liat 
fundamentalnya bagus banget. Sekarang ini belum jalan. Sama juga waktu beli 
ADMF, waktu itu ada komentar dari Pak Oen, saya jadi tidak beli lagi. Harganya 
masih dibawah Rp. 6.000. sekarang klo jual di delapan ribu ada aja yang serap.
Perlu waktu.






From: datasahamku datasaha...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 2:28:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] FPNI - to TOM.D.S

  
wah Dapen bapak hebat nih punya analis all in one...beberapa Dapen BUMN besar 
yg sy kenal sptnya pada ga punya analis/riset sendiri cuma Jamsostek tuh yg byk 
analisnya... paling pusing deh klo presentasi ke Jamsostek soalnya TA apalagi 
BA kagak laku hehehepadahal mereka juga pusing mengapa scr FA bagus tp 
harga sahamnya kagak naik2 :)

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i...@... wrote:

 saya handle both equity dan fixed income pak, kalo perlu reksa dana di cek
 juga. main profficiency saya sih di bottom-up equity strategy and valuation,
 tp saya versatile aja lah. semua di habek. its fun anyway, brain exercise.
 
 yap, besok di PE itu yg harus di konfirmasi.
 
 tapi pak tom mungkin bisa kasih bocoran lebih dulu.
 
 
 
 2010/4/9 Data Saham datasahamku@ ...
 
 
 
 
  jadi analis obligasi mesti tahu FA emitenya ya pak...hebat nih kang Ocoy...
  temen saya yg jd trader obligasi kayanya ga pernah nanya2 FA tuh,
  klo ga salah  yg dipentingin rating trus sama kupon aja  hehe
 
  btw. klo di lihat sektornya, tahun lalu emiten plastik/chemical
  sepertinya pada outperformed  apakah ini ada hubungan dg harga minyak yg
  relatif rendah di banding 2008 ?  so klo rata2 harga minyak di 2010 naik di
  bandingkan 2009 mgkn bakal underperfomed kinerjanya ?kecuali sudah di
  hedge harganya sejak awal...
   mgkn itu bisa ditanyakan pak waktu PE besok...
 
 



 


  

Re: [ob] OOT: JOKE

2010-01-27 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Ini baru Joke. Sering-sering enak juga hilangin stress.





From: EkonoMbeling ekonombel...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, January 28, 2010 1:09:44 PM
Subject: [ob] OOT: JOKE



Alkisah pada perang dunia ke2:tiga pesawat Belanda jatuh di Kalimantan. Ke-3 
pilot itupun akhirnya disandera oleh warga setempat yang ternyata adalah orang 
Dayak kanibal.Mengetahui hal tersebut, ke3 pilot yg takut tersebut memohon agar 
tidak dibunuh. Maka kepala suku setempat berkata,‘Kalo kamu semua masih mau 
hidup, kalian harus pergi ke hutan dan bawa kembali 10 buah yg jenisnya sama. 
Tapi kalian hanya mendapatkan waktu 3 jam!’Dengan sangat cepat ketiga pilot 
itupun akhirnya lari ke hutan untuk mencari buah-buahan.Setelah 2 jam pilot ke 
1 pun akhirnya datang membawa 10 buah apel. Kepala Suku : Baik kamu telah 
membawa 10 buah apel. Sekarang masukkan semua apel itu melalui lobang pantat 
kamu satu persatu. Kalau kamu merintih, atau membuat suara, kamu akan saya 
potong2 jadi sate! Dengan perlahan-lahan sang pilot mencoba memasukkan apel 
pertama tanpa merintih.Dengan penuh perjuangan dan ketahanan akhirnya apel ke 1 
bisa dia masukkan. Namun di apel yg
 ke 2 ia tidak bisa menahan sakit, dan seraya merintih. Dengan kejam sang 
kepala suku memenggal kepala si pilot. Maka naiklah ia ke surga.Pilot kedua 
datang membawa 10 buah lengkeng. Dan kepala suku memberikan instruksi yg sama 
kepada sang pilot. Dalam hati,‘Yah kalo lengkeng sih gampang!’ Dan memang 
betul. Satu lengkeng masuk, dua lengkeng, tiga lengkeng, tapi pada saat ia 
memasukkan lengkeng yg ke 10 sang kepala suku tiba2 memotong kepalanya.Saat 
pilot ke-2 naik ke surga ia bertemu dengan pilot-1.Pilot2 : Wah kamu mati juga 
ya ? Pilot1 : Iya aku bawa apel sih. Kan sakit ! Sialan itu kepala suku, 
syaratnya berat banget! Trus kamu bawa buah apa?Pilot2 : Lengkeng.Pilot1 : 
Lengkeng? Itu kan gampang, kecil, ga sakit lagi! Pilot2 : Emang betul. Semua 
lengkeng hampir aku masukkan semua ke dalam lobang pantat. Tapi ya itu, tiba2 
aku tertawa dan semua lengkeng yg aku sudah masukkan keluar semua…..Pilot1 : 
Bego kamu! Koq ketawa ?Pilot2 : habis pas mau
 masukin lengkeng ke 10 aku liat Pilot-3 bawa duren



Salam Mbeling!



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Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and others on US Inflation

2009-09-14 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
I do not know what will they do. John Perkins did mention about war.From: Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:56:19 PMSubject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and others on  US
 Inflation









  By creating a WAR ?...
US intends to keep hot issue with Iran N Korea, just in case they need it.



On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Tony Prasetya tonyton...@yahoo. com wrote:



Dear Elaine,From the EHM american dollar will be strong. If not they will find way to make it strong. How do they pay for oil, for example.




From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:20:27 AM 


Subject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and others on US Inflation


 

You got mixed up between value and price. (Like weight vs mass, potential vs kinetic, astronomers vs astronauts). lolz I think I confuse you even more ya.. 
Elaine
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail. com wrote:



mmm…. I think I see what you mean…
CMIIW, my understanding is that, all other currencies appreciate on USD, therefore it shows little or no value of appreciating?
Darn… this currency thingy is so hard to comprehend…=(





From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:05 AM 


To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and others on US Inflation






 



I think it should be the same, if your currency appreciate also to USD.USD is only a medium of exchange, intermediary agent for the exchange of commodities to your own currency. Leave USD out of equation, and it should be simpler. 
Sell tins and CPO in Rupiah, Buy crude oil in Riyal, buy gold and diamond in Rand, buy heavy machine in Yen, buy durian monthong in Baht, import Shahrukh Khan in Rupee. It will be more interesting, eh?
===BUY, BUY, BUY! KEEP BUYING AND NEVER SELL!

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM, s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail. com wrote:



Agree… but, isn’t that if you are holding USD?
If however in other currencies (presumably will appreciate on USD), the value of commodities are cheaper??
Sorry…. I am not good at this economy thingy…

s|nnerman





From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:20 AM


To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and others on US Inflation




 



Let's say that the value of commodities and energy are constant for now, but its prices are increasing because the currency is devaluating. The value of money is diminishing.===BUY, BUY, BUY! KEEP BUYING AND NEVER SELL!


On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM, s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail. com wrote:



Thank you for your inputs sir,…
I am sure you are just being humble..
Currently China’s main problem is the devaluating USD.
There’s no country in the world that would just sit quietly and see their money (treasury/reserve) diminishing.

We have agreed that US is facing serious inflationary issue. And based on my discussion with Miss Elaine is that , do we see India, China and Indonesian markets able to push the commodity prices up?

I am convinced that the energy and non-ferrous metal prices are overvalued. 
However, with the devaluating in USD, I see the possibilities that China will diverse her reserve in various forms, including precious metals, non-ferrous metals, and energy. If that happens, will China able to push the prices north?! 



Regards
s|n





From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of YUTA
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:07 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and others on US Inflation


 



Hi


I am not expert on fundamental things but just a guy who keen to learnsomething on what happen to the economic. Since you put my name, I amtrying to share some of view.Uhm so difficult questions. Perhaps we need to agree on future, is
this inflationary is happening in US or contrary their currency isdevaluating? I guess, both is ongoing. Inflation is the future threatof what US peoples is most worrying about. While it is ongoing whereUS dollar is devaluating to other currencies. There should be a trade
off which we don't know what's gonna happen.Look at China, they have also problems with over capacity which willlead to deflation but in the other hand they are very sensitive oncommodities fluctuation which will trigger to inflation. Confuse,
right? Then it does make sense where China is also curbing both(Commodities inflation and US dollar deflation) by diversing theirreserve, at least for my perspective of thinking.I believe what peoples wiat

Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and others on US Inflation

2009-09-13 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Dear Elaine,From the EHM american dollar will be strong. If not they will find way to make it strong. How do they pay for oil, for example.From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:20:27 AMSubject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang,
 Embah, Pengamat Market and others on  US Inflation









  You got mixed up between value and price. (Like weight vs mass, potential vs kinetic, astronomers vs astronauts). lolz I think I confuse you even more ya.. 
ElaineOn Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:12 AM, s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail. com wrote:
































mmm…. I think I see what you mean…

CMIIW, my understanding is that, all other currencies appreciate
on USD, therefore it shows little or no value of appreciating?

Darn… this currency thingy is so hard to comprehend…=(











From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:05 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and
others on US Inflation







 







I think it should be the same, if your currency
appreciate also to USD.
USD is only a medium of exchange, intermediary agent for the exchange of
commodities to your own currency. Leave USD out of equation, and it should be
simpler. 

Sell tins and CPO in Rupiah, Buy crude oil in Riyal, buy gold and diamond in
Rand, buy heavy machine in Yen, buy durian monthong in Baht, import Shahrukh
Khan in Rupee. It will be more interesting, eh?

===
BUY, BUY, BUY! KEEP BUYING AND NEVER SELL!





On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM, s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail. com wrote:







Agree… but, isn’t that if you
are holding USD?

If however in other currencies
(presumably will appreciate on USD), the value of commodities are cheaper??

Sorry…. I am not good at this
economy thingy…



s|nnerman











From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:20 AM






To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and
others on US Inflation















 







Let's say that the value of commodities and
energy are constant for now, but its prices are increasing because the currency
is devaluating. The value of money is diminishing.

===
BUY, BUY, BUY! KEEP BUYING AND NEVER SELL!



On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM, s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail. com
wrote:







Thank you for your inputs sir,…

I am sure you are just being
humble..

Currently China’s main problem
is the devaluating USD.

There’s no country in the world
that would just sit quietly and see their money (treasury/reserve) diminishing.



We have agreed that US is
facing serious inflationary issue. And based on my discussion with Miss Elaine
is that , do we see India, China and Indonesian markets able to push the
commodity prices up?

I am convinced that the energy
and non-ferrous metal prices are overvalued. 

However, with the devaluating
in USD, I see the possibilities that China will diverse her reserve in various
forms, including precious metals, non-ferrous metals, and energy. If that happens,
will China able to push the prices north?! 





Regards

s|n











From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of YUTA
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:07 PM




To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] To: Pak Hendra Bujang, Embah, Pengamat Market and
others on US Inflation









 







Hi







I am not expert on fundamental things but just a guy who keen to learn
something on what happen to the economic. Since you put my name, I am
trying to share some of view.

Uhm so difficult questions. Perhaps we need to agree on future, is
this inflationary is happening in US or contrary their currency is
devaluating? I guess, both is ongoing. Inflation is the future threat
of what US peoples is most worrying about. While it is ongoing where
US dollar is devaluating to other currencies. There should be a trade
off which we don't know what's gonna happen.

Look at China, they have also problems with over capacity which will
lead to deflation but in the other hand they are very sensitive on
commodities fluctuation which will trigger to inflation. Confuse,
right? Then it does make sense where China is also curbing both
(Commodities inflation and US dollar deflation) by diversing their
reserve, at least for my perspective of thinking.

I believe what peoples wiat is how US government will end the stimulus
and their method take out the liquidity from the market. Once they
increase the interest rate, stock and market will negatively react.
And once it happen, as you aware, the US dollar will increase their
value which other currency should follow (to increase interest rate)
as well. You can 

Re: [ob] Salam Kenal to ALL

2009-08-26 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Thou shalt sell all and pray

Any reasons behind it? please share.



From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:05:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Salam Kenal to ALL

  
Thou shalt sell all and pray.

Elaine


2009/8/26 chairumin chairu...@yahoo. com



Hi all... salam kenal hehehe
perkenalkan nama g Hendry, penghuni baru d group OB...

btw g br join skitar sebulan d OB, harap maklum buat smuany, g br skrg brani 
perkenalkan diri... bis malu nih... g yg masi newbie gt ikutan cuap2 ga 
penting d goup OB, tp smenjak join, g da baca2 si, obrolan2 dari OBe'rs (bner 
ga ya nulis OBe'rs? )dan dr yg g baca emg rata2 isi postingan ny berguna bgt 
dan mnrut g rata2 OBe'rs sangat friendly bgt (gombal ga si??) hehehe

dan setelah beberapa minggu ini g baca, kayak ny d group OB ni da panggilan 
khusus ya buat sesepuh d group Ob, ada yang d panggil suhu, mbah, dan prof 
saham ya? wah g pengen banget ni, belajar banyak dari para suhu2, 
mbah2, dan prof2 saham d group OB. spaya g bisa mencapai target cita-cita g, 
TRADING FOR A LIVING. yang untuk saat kondisi g skrg ini, g anggap, g masi 
jauh bgt untuk mencapai level TRADING FOR A LIVING. tapi g yakin, ONE DAY I 
WILL REACH MY DREAM.

Btw tmen2 d sini, sapa aja ni yang uda TRADING FOR A LIVING, g yakin dr 
skian bnyak Ob'ers pasti banyak juga yang uda nyampe k level itu...

so... sapa aj ni dr member OB'ers yg uda TRADING FOR A LIVING, harap angkat 
tangan dan katakan dengan lantang I am TRADING FOR A LIVING!! !! 
hehehehe soal ny g pengen bgt ni belajar dr orang2 tersebut..

 OK d... kyak ny g da kbaanyakan bacot, buat se-orang pemula yg baru mo 
belajar tentang saham hahahha...

ok that's it buat perkenalannya, hav a nice trading for all, salam...

btw portofolio g di semai d TRUB(65%),CTRP( 15%),MLPL( 3%),MITI( 2%),CASH( 
15%)...hopeless for MITI and MLPL hehehe...



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Re: [ob] Are you ready ? ( ai tot yu)

2009-08-19 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
itu pada teriak ayo kita nyopet. Kalo copet benaran kaga berani teriak. Orang 
nyopet klo ketauan orang lain kan digebukin. Pakai istilah enakan yu usulan 
saya. 






From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:02:10 AM
Subject: RE: [ob] Are you ready ? ( ai tot yu)

  
Sudahlah sudahhh….., sesama COPET jangan ribut-ribut….,  nanti
malah kite kecopetan…., hehehe….. ayo kerja aja kerjaaa….. J
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On
Behalf Of Tasrul
Sent: 20 Agustus 2009 9:55
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Are you ready ? ( ai tot yu)
 
 
Emang ada jaminan disini kalo ane sebutin apa yg  dicopet
bakal gak dikerjain hihihi
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On
Behalf Of artomoro9
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:49 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [ob] Are you ready ? ( ai tot yu)
 
  

pak tasrul nyopet apa sih kalo boleh tau.?

kalo nyopet index mah kaga ada duitnya

dari kemaren ngajak nyopet tapi gak bilang yg di copet apa..
mana tau OBERS kalo pak tasrul cuan beneran. hehehe

canda boss. 

bilang dong mau nyopet yg mana jadi itotu ya mantaf...





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Dari: Tasrul tas...@overseas. co.id
Judul: RE: [ob] Are you ready ? ( ai tot yu)
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Kamis, 20 Agustus, 2009, 9:40 AM
  
Kok ane udah cuan hehehe….nyopetnya salah kalee
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
] On Behalf Of Vernichtung
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:36 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Are you ready ? ( ai tot yu)
 
  
Kalo nyopetnya pas menit terakhir kalo menit2 awal kan masih loss pak tasrul..
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Tasrul tas...@overseas. co.id wrote:
 
Yg nyopet kmrn mari teriak yang kencang “ ai tot yu”
 
 
Yuuuk marhehehe
 


 
  
 


 
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Re: Bls: Telat sehari ...BUMI udah bid 3200 ...Bls: [ob] masa bumi 3200 kagak bid sih..?

2009-08-14 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Salam kenal pa Arto
 
Bumi mau kemana lagi? Kemarin ini kasih tau bumi ke 3000 sudah terjadi.

klo boleh bagi2.

Thnkq





From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:40:25 PM
Subject: Bls: Telat sehari ...BUMI udah bid 3200 ...Bls: [ob] masa bumi 3200 
kagak bid sih..?

  

udahlah pak asep.. 
kagak usah di omongin lagi. 
udah basi kali ya. hehehe.

 
ntar pada ngomel ngomel lagi kalo gak pas harinya.

kecepetan gak aci. telat sehari apalagi.


arrrgh.. OBers.. OBers...




A9. 



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Dari: Asep Buhori asepbuh...@yahoo. com
Judul: Telat sehari ...BUMI udah bid 3200 ...Bls: [ob] masa bumi 3200 kagak 
bid sih..?
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Jumat, 14 Agustus, 2009, 11:34 AM


   
 
Manteff General Artolanjutkan. ...tarik lagi  kagak usah bagi yg blm beli 
...
 
AB




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Kepada: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Kamis, 13 Agustus, 2009 15:14:41
Judul: [ob] masa bumi 3200 kagak bid sih..?

  


masa bumi 3200 kagak bisa  posisi bid sih..?




 


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Re: [ob] koleksi e-book saham dan forex

2009-08-01 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Saya berminat untuk dapat e book nya, tolong dong dikirim satu thnkq.





From: Peter Alimin  milis...@live.com
To: OB  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:39:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] koleksi e-book saham dan forex

Drpd email satu2, apa ga mendingan d upload aja yah?
Jadi klo ada yg sama tinggal kasi link..
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mohon input dari rekan2 yg sudah saya kirimi via email... apakah bisa 
di-download dgn baik? mengingat file cukup besar n saya ada kendala limit 
yahoomail cuma 10MB...
mohon maaf jg buat email rekan2 yg request n belum saya balas, saya msh harus 
satu per satu uploadnya sesuai permintaan rekan2... saya usahakan sabtu dan 
minggu besok bisa saya selesaikan reply-nya 
Harap sabar ya...

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 From: ma2ti...@... ma2ti...@...
 Subject: Re: [ob] koleksi e-book saham dan forex
 To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:36 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Fren, mhn utk di emai ke saya : lare.ti...@gmail. com
 
 SalamPowered by BlackBerry®From: susantogondo 
 Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:27:49 -
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Re: [ob] koleksi e-book saham dan forex
   Gratis bu...
 silakan kirim ke email saya ebook yg ibu inginkan, nanti saya reply n attach 
 bersama e-booknya (khusus utk yg ukurannya kurang dari 10 Megabytes)
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, eka nurfitri nurfitri.eka@ ... 
 wrote:
 
  gratis?
  
  2009/8/1 susanto wijaya susantogondo@ ...
  
  
  
   Saat ini kita telah memasuki bullish time, harapan kita semua utk dapat
   memaksimalkan profit baik dari trading maupun investasi di saham
  
   Saya memiliki koleksi ribuan judul e-book saham dan forex tentang trading,
   investasi, maupun teknikal analisis yang mungkin dapat membantu 
   meningkatkan
   kemampuan trading dan investasi kita, bersama email ini saya lampirkan
   daftar judul semua e-book tersebut. Total koleksi tersebut lebih dari 3500
   judul dan total ukurannya lebih dari 3.5 Gigabytes
  
   Jika ada yang berminat silakan kontak or reply email saya...
  
   Smoga rekan2 dapat menghasilkan banyak profit dalam masa bullish time 
   kali
   ini ...
  
   terima kasih
   
  
 


  





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Re: [ob] THANK YOU ELAINE... Im safe now

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
I am safe Tasrul.  Thanks a million EL. For Bnbr I still hold for investment. 





From: Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:47:01 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] THANK YOU ELAINE... Im safe now

  
I nyopet aja ….
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of elvira raven
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009
1:44 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] THANK YOU ELAINE...
Im safe now
 
  
Thank for your warning elaine... im safe now
is everbody safe ?
 
untung ga ikutan jendral serbu bumi 2300... 
he3 
 
   


  

Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...

2009-07-08 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Saya kurang teliti kalau elaine sudah bilang target paling2 Rp. 400.
Saya kira untuk lap keu juni 2009, kalau kita bilang PER bnbr 10 harga BNBR 
sudah diatas Rp. 500.
Mudah2 an saya tidak salah. Karena itu saya percaya Elaine bilang Rp. 5000, dan 
tidak lihat koreksi dia, ga pernah terbaca.
Ga apa saya masih untung diharga ini, saya banyak beli di harga Rp. 70 an. 

Saya memang sudah dibisikin kalau dimilis kadang ada yang ngaco. Cuma saya baca 
dan bikin PR. 





From: alan Feihung dfa...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:11:58 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...





Maaf kalo gitu pak. Entah bahasa ingris saya ngaco atau bagaimana...  dulu 
sudah rame-rame didiskusikan dan dibantah EL merekomendasi 5000. Paling juga 
400 katanya.

Yang bikin rumor 5000 sapa coba, ngaku...  Ada korban asli ini... Dosa loh kalo 
sampe korban merugi gara-gara rumor anda... he..he..he..

Ya pak Tony, coba lihat-lihat saja arsip lama... (CMIWW)

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Prasetya tonytonyse@ ... wrote:

 Sdr alan, Pertanyaan saya untuk Elaine, bukan maenan rumor, bukan untuk 
 membuat cape, kalau anda merasa milis ini milik anda dan dan anda seorang 
 yang memutuskan apa yang boleh dimuat dimilis, saya rasa juga tidak dgn 
 gampangnya mevonis tulisan seseorang itu rumor jelek. 
 Kalau anda mengerti analisa fundamental, mungkin anda tidak semudah itu untuk 
 menuliskan tanggapan anda.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: alan Feihung dfa...@...
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 3:59:29 PM
 Subject: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
 
 
 
 
 
 Coba maenan rumor jelek macam ini jangan diungkit-ungkit lagi. Dulu cape, 
 sekarang lebih cape lagi.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Prasetya tonytonyse@ ... 
 wrote:
 
  BNBR  to Rp. 5.000, still on?
  
  
  
  
   _ _ __
  From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ...
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:12:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
  
  
  
  
  
  I'm waiting for a correction.
  
  Elaine
  
  
  On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Tony Prasetya tonytonyse@ yahoo. com 
  wrote:
  
  Elaine, I have been following your writing and some stock selection. I 
  thank you for the gain made.
  Since you have been saying good bye after bnbr recommendation, this is 
  the first time you come back. Well, Welcomeback.
  What is your recommendation now?
  
  
  
  
   _ _ __
  From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 4:31:21
   PM
  
  Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
  
  
  Don't lie to me dear. I know you were not buying, and so were everyone in 
  this thread. Bunch of sissies. 
  
  
  Elaine
  
  
  On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ruz7 indeksbei3000@ gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Done Done Done
  Sorry EL, :)
  Powered By FREN BondBerry.  (Bayar Pake Daun).
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  From:  Elaine Sui 
  Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:34:19 +0700
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
  
  l...@everyone in this thread. Tsk, can't  you wait?! 
  
  
  Elaine
  
  
  On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote:
  
  MAKAN !!
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- bandar@ 
  yahoogroups. com]
  
  
   On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
  
  Sent: 06 Juli 2009 15:26
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  
  Subject: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant 
  jsx-consultant@ ...
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   IHSG -48 2027
   
  
Let's DOEIT...
  
  
  COME ON, PICK IT UP for Pilpres Day...
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...

2009-07-07 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
BNBR to Rp. 5.000, still on?From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:12:42 AMSubject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...










  
  I'm waiting for a correction.ElaineOn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Tony Prasetya tonyton...@yahoo. com wrote:
Elaine, I have been following your writing and some stock selection. I thank you for the gain made.
Since you have been saying good bye after bnbr recommendation, this is the first time you come back. Well, Welcomeback.What is your recommendation now?
From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSent: Monday, July 6, 2009 4:31:21
 PMSubject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...










  
  Don't lie to me dear. I know you were not buying, and so were everyone in this thread. Bunch of sissies.

Elaine
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:34:19 +0700To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...


 l...@everyone in this thread. Tsk, can't you wait?!


ElaineOn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote:


 MAKAN !! -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]


 On Behalf Of jsx_consultantSent: 06 Juli 2009 15:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
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Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...

2009-07-07 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Sdr alan, Pertanyaan saya untuk Elaine, bukan maenan rumor, bukan untuk membuat 
cape, kalau anda merasa milis ini milik anda dan dan anda seorang yang 
memutuskan apa yang boleh dimuat dimilis, saya rasa juga tidak dgn gampangnya 
mevonis tulisan seseorang itu rumor jelek. 
Kalau anda mengerti analisa fundamental, mungkin anda tidak semudah itu untuk 
menuliskan tanggapan anda.

 





From: alan Feihung dfa...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 3:59:29 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...





Coba maenan rumor jelek macam ini jangan diungkit-ungkit lagi. Dulu cape, 
sekarang lebih cape lagi.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Tony Prasetya tonytonyse@ ... wrote:

 BNBR  to Rp. 5.000, still on?
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ...
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
 
 
 
 
 
 I'm waiting for a correction.
 
 Elaine
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Tony Prasetya tonytonyse@ yahoo. com wrote:
 
 Elaine, I have been following your writing and some stock selection. I thank 
 you for the gain made.
 Since you have been saying good bye after bnbr recommendation, this is the 
 first time you come back. Well, Welcomeback.
 What is your recommendation now?
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 4:31:21
  PM
 
 Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
 
 
 Don't lie to me dear. I know you were not buying, and so were everyone in 
 this thread. Bunch of sissies. 
 
 
 Elaine
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Ruz7 indeksbei3000@ gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Done Done Done
 Sorry EL, :)
 Powered By FREN BondBerry.  (Bayar Pake Daun).  
 Indeksbei3000®
 
  _ _ __
 From:  Elaine Sui 
 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:34:19 +0700
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
 
 l...@everyone in this thread. Tsk, can't  you wait?! 
 
 
 Elaine
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote:
 
 MAKAN !!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- bandar@ 
 yahoogroups. com]
 
 
  On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
 
 Sent: 06 Juli 2009 15:26
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
 Subject: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ 
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Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...

2009-07-06 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Elaine, I have been following your writing and some stock selection. I thank you for the gain made.Since you have been saying good bye after bnbr recommendation, this is the first time you come back. Well, Welcomeback.What is your recommendation now?From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, July 6, 2009 4:31:21
 PMSubject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...










  
  Don't lie to me dear. I know you were not buying, and so were everyone in this thread. Bunch of sissies.
Elaine
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:34:19 +0700To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...

 l...@everyone in this thread. Tsk, can't you wait?!

ElaineOn Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote:

 MAKAN !! -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]

 On Behalf Of jsx_consultantSent: 06 Juli 2009 15:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: [ob] Re: IHSG -48 2027 Let's DOEIT...

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Re: [ob] INVESTASI BARU BUMI DI TAMBANG EMAS SULAWESI

2009-07-05 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
kalau resources bumi bagusnya bukan main. Saya diberitahu kalau manajemen bumi 
dipegang oleh astra, bumi bisa menjadi top company in the world.. Sayang 
Manajemen bumi tidak sebaik astra. 
Klo nanti ada biaya explorasi di tambang emas Sulawesi, berhati-hati saja 
banyak cara untuk mengatakan explorasi gagal. Biaya habis.
Hanya untuk sharing.





From: t_bumi t_b...@yahoo.co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 12:08:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] INVESTASI BARU BUMI DI TAMBANG EMAS SULAWESI





--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Mico Wendy micowe...@. .. wrote:

 Pak t-bumi,
 Jadi menurut bapak, bumi bagus utk jangka panjang?
 
 
 Sip : tbumi

Bila dibandingkan sesama emiten yaitu INCO dan BUMI secara nasional,

maka BUMI akan lebih bagus dari INCO dan ANTM utk LT.

Nama kebesaran INCO terkenal karena induknya mempunyai banyak

pertambangan di dunia. 

Tapi secara nasional tambang BUMI lebih besar dari INCO dan ANTM.

Apalagi dgn akuisisi DEWA dan rencana adanya tambang emas di Sulawesi.

Lagi pula tambang batubara BUMI lebih gampang diambil dan diproses

daripada Nikel.


   


  

Re: [ob] TO PRof JT ........ mohon wangsitnye boss ....

2009-06-16 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Sharing aja. Kalau main saham dalam list gorengan itu--nasehat saya, orang yang 
pernah kena batunya, siap2 jual mobil anda. Untuk menutupi kerugian. 





From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:53:49 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] TO PRof JT  mohon wangsitnye boss 





Pilihannya susah amat sih? Ngga ada yg lain? hehe

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of rangga_the_demon
Sent: 16 Juni 2009 14:47
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] TO PRof JT  mohon wangsitnye boss 

.prof JT .kalo boleh milih2 neh ...diantara saham2 pisang goreng
kayak MITI, MYTX, IATA, MLPL, VRNA...ente pilih mane bosstrus
alesannye
kenape...??? ...sori ganggu lagi belajar ilmu gorengan mbah nehkali
aje
ntar beneran jadi tukang gorengan ...hihihihihi. ..thx b4..


   


  

[ob] Obligasi konversi PTRA

2009-03-31 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
PTRA menbayar Obligasi konversi yang baru berjalan satu tahun dengan tanah 10 
Jt m2 lebih untuk obligasi konversi 1% pa. Sehingga PTRA dirugikan lebih dari 
rp350 milyar rupiah.

Kerugian ini luar biasa sekali karena jumlah obligasinya rp400 milyar.

Apalagi yang mengambil tanah ini beralamat yang sama dengan penerima kuasa 
obligasi.

Pengaduan sudah diajukan ke Bapepam hampir 3 bulan yang lalu.

Apa ada yang punya data bagaimana obligasi konversi bisa dibayar dgn tanah 
(persediaan)?

Data apa saja yang ada tolong di email, untuk diteruskan ke Bapepam.

Pemilik PTRA dari grup MAYAPADA.


  

[obrolan-bandar] PTRA

2009-03-18 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
Apa ada yang jadi nyangkut di PTRA 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Apa yang saya heran ttg Santo Vibby?

2007-01-11 Terurut Topik Tony Prasetya
kalau kuncirnya dukun Santo Vibby masih panjang ga usah heran dah ramalannya 
tepat terus. thanks vib, we need people like you to help us tosurvive in this 
wild jungle.


- Original Message 
From: Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:19:44 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Apa yang saya heran ttg Santo Vibby?

Yang saya heran ramalan dukun kita Santo Vibby ttg PGAS dan IHSG ternyata 
terjadi padahal dia lihatnya betul-betul hanya dari TA.
 
Lihat saja posting-posting dia ttg GAP pada IHSG yang mengatakan GAP 1683 akan 
ditutup serta Descending Triangle pada PGAS yg mengatakan PGAS akan ke 6600.
 
Ratman
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