Untuk Pak Tongat Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
:) Terima kasih Pak, Tambahannya benar-benar MANTAP. Dari pemegang kebijaksanaan yang tertinggi. Mudah-mudahan kita semua mau benar-benar mengerti dan menerapkannya Menjalankan, bukan sekedar mendengar. - Original Message - From: Tongat Benerva To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL On 10/18/07, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A VERY WISE ADVICE indeed. Often said, yet seldom listened. hiks -cut- tambahan biar klop Pak Bill, Arahkanlah perhatianmu kepada didikan, dan telingamu kepada kata-kata pengetahuan. rgds. .
Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
On 10/18/07, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A VERY WISE ADVICE indeed. > > Often said, yet seldom listened. > hiks > -cut- > tambahan biar klop Pak Bill, Arahkanlah perhatianmu kepada didikan, dan telingamu kepada kata-kata pengetahuan. rgds.
RE: Time to relax.. Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
Though - we are prepared for a plum to die in the place of the peach - we do not want to make an unnecessary sacrifice. :) Don't forget to buy-back your stock right away - if necessary to do so Happy chuan, Aria _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:50 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Time to relax.. Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL Everyone can predict the future, the problem is the accuracy.. :) That because anyone can set target on any stocks, but no one really knows the exact time when it will happen. Honestly I'm a bit worried about the market. Just trade safely. It'd be wise NOT to catch the falling AXEs. Stick to TA and FA carefully, and DON'T GET PANIC. Btw, we have no position so we can't recommend anything. Oh well, Only God knows what's the best for all of us. Regards, DE On 10/18/07, JSX Sniper <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com> wrote: no ones can predict future... dlm case bumi saat hrga di3800 siapa yg tau bakal drop ke3400an? kalau tau ya jual dulu?,then beli lagi di3500an en hold till 4600 tapi gimana klo sdh jual di3800an,tauny hrga justru naek lagi? we will lose `big killing profit... Pada tanggal 18/10/07, Joe Highlander mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gmail.com > menulis: Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di 2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut. Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang kesempatan di "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull back. Salam Highlander Joe On 10/18/07, James Arifin mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> gmail.com > wrote: > it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan > told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing > opportunity. > > Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from > 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only > several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again > as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you > took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the > 3525 level and win until 4600. > > You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide > yourself what is the best for yourself. > > On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander mailto:kecoakganteng%40gmail.com> gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah > > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold > > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear > > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol. > > > > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always > > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL) > > > > Joe > > > > 2007/10/18, James Arifin mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> gmail.com >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL > > BEAR. > > > > > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP. > > > > > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that > > > could cause 200 point correction > > > > > >
Time to relax.. Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
Everyone can predict the future, the problem is the accuracy.. :) That because anyone can set target on any stocks, but no one really knows the exact time when it will happen. Honestly I'm a bit worried about the market. Just trade safely. It'd be wise NOT to catch the falling AXEs. Stick to TA and FA carefully, and DON'T GET PANIC. Btw, we have no position so we can't recommend anything. Oh well, Only God knows what's the best for all of us. Regards, DE On 10/18/07, JSX Sniper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > no ones can predict future... dlm case bumi saat hrga di3800 siapa yg > tau bakal drop ke3400an? kalau tau ya jual dulu?,then beli lagi di3500an en > hold till 4600 tapi gimana klo sdh jual di3800an,tauny hrga justru naek > lagi? we will lose `big killing profit... > > Pada tanggal 18/10/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > menulis: > > > > Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita > > bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh > > terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg > > mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di > > 2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi > > kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai > > support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk > > stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin > > menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain > > > > Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi > > serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut. > > > > Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang > > kesempatan di "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi > > sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull > > back. > > > > Salam Highlander > > > > Joe > > > > > > On 10/18/07, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan > > > told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing > > > opportunity. > > > > > > Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from > > > 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only > > > several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again > > > as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you > > > took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the > > > 3525 level and win until 4600. > > > > > > You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide > > > yourself what is the best for yourself. > > > > > > On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah > > > > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi > > hold > > > > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear > > > > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol. > > > > > > > > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always > > > > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL) > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > 2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for > > SMALL > > > > BEAR. > > > > > > > > > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP. > > > > > > > > > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI > > that > > > > > could cause 200 point correction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
no ones can predict future... dlm case bumi saat hrga di3800 siapa yg tau bakal drop ke3400an? kalau tau ya jual dulu?,then beli lagi di3500an en hold till 4600 tapi gimana klo sdh jual di3800an,tauny hrga justru naek lagi? we will lose `big killing profit... Pada tanggal 18/10/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: > > Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita > bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh > terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg > mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di > 2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi > kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai > support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk > stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin > menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain > > Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi > serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut. > > Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang > kesempatan di "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi > sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull > back. > > Salam Highlander > > Joe > > On 10/18/07, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan > > told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing > > opportunity. > > > > Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from > > 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only > > several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again > > as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you > > took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the > > 3525 level and win until 4600. > > > > You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide > > yourself what is the best for yourself. > > > > On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah > > > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold > > > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear > > > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol. > > > > > > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always > > > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL) > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > 2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for > SMALL > > > BEAR. > > > > > > > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP. > > > > > > > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI > that > > > > could cause 200 point correction > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di 2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut. Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang kesempatan di "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull back. Salam Highlander Joe On 10/18/07, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan > told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing > opportunity. > > Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from > 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only > several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again > as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you > took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the > 3525 level and win until 4600. > > You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide > yourself what is the best for yourself. > > On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah > > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold > > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear > > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol. > > > > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always > > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL) > > > > Joe > > > > 2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL > > BEAR. > > > > > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP. > > > > > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that > > > could cause 200 point correction > > > > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
A VERY WISE ADVICE indeed. Often said, yet seldom listened. hiks Most of successful trading barrier is psychological in nature. - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing opportunity. Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the 3525 level and win until 4600. You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide yourself what is the best for yourself. .
Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing opportunity. Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the 3525 level and win until 4600. You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide yourself what is the best for yourself. On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol. > > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL) > > Joe > > 2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL > BEAR. > > > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP. > > > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that > > could cause 200 point correction > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL
Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol. "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL) Joe 2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL BEAR. > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP. > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that > could cause 200 point correction >