Untuk Pak Tongat Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Bill

:) Terima kasih Pak,

Tambahannya benar-benar MANTAP. 
Dari pemegang kebijaksanaan yang tertinggi.

Mudah-mudahan kita semua mau benar-benar mengerti dan menerapkannya
Menjalankan, bukan sekedar mendengar.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tongat Benerva 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL






  On 10/18/07, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


A VERY WISE ADVICE indeed.

Often said, yet seldom listened.
hiks
-cut-



  tambahan biar klop Pak Bill,
  Arahkanlah perhatianmu kepada didikan, dan telingamu kepada kata-kata 
pengetahuan. 


  rgds.
  .
   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Tongat Benerva
On 10/18/07, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> A VERY WISE ADVICE indeed.
>
> Often said, yet seldom listened.
> hiks
>  -cut-
>











tambahan biar klop Pak Bill,
Arahkanlah perhatianmu kepada didikan, dan telingamu kepada kata-kata
pengetahuan.


rgds.


RE: Time to relax.. Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Though - we are prepared for a plum to die in the place of the peach - we do
not want to make an unnecessary sacrifice.

 

:) Don't forget to buy-back your stock right away - if necessary to do so

 

Happy chuan,

 

Aria

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:50 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Time to relax.. Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

 

Everyone can predict the future, the problem is the accuracy.. :) That
because anyone can set target on any stocks, but no one really knows the
exact time when it will happen.

Honestly I'm a bit worried about the market. Just trade safely. It'd be wise
NOT to catch the falling AXEs. Stick to TA and FA carefully, and DON'T GET
PANIC. 

Btw, we have no position so we can't recommend anything.

Oh well, Only God knows what's the best for all of us.

Regards,
DE




On 10/18/07, JSX Sniper <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com>
wrote:

no ones can predict future...  dlm case bumi saat hrga di3800 siapa yg tau
bakal drop ke3400an? kalau tau ya jual dulu?,then beli lagi di3500an en hold
till 4600  tapi gimana klo sdh jual di3800an,tauny hrga justru naek
lagi? we will lose `big killing profit... 

Pada tanggal 18/10/07, Joe Highlander mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gmail.com > menulis: 

Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita
bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh
terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg
mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di 
2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi
kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai
support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk
stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin 
menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain

Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi
serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut.

Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang 
kesempatan di "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi
sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull
back.

Salam Highlander

Joe 



On 10/18/07, James Arifin mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com>
gmail.com > wrote:
> it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan
> told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing
> opportunity.
>
> Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from 
> 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only
> several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again
> as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you 
> took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the
> 3525 level and win until 4600.
>
> You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide
> yourself what is the best for yourself. 
>
> On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander mailto:kecoakganteng%40gmail.com> gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah
> > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold
> > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear 
> > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol.
> >
> > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always
> > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL) 
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > 2007/10/18, James Arifin mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> gmail.com >:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL
> > BEAR. 
> > >
> > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP.
> > >
> > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that
> > > could cause 200 point correction 
> > >
> >
>





 

 



Time to relax.. Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Everyone can predict the future, the problem is the accuracy.. :) That
because anyone can set target on any stocks, but no one really knows the
exact time when it will happen.

Honestly I'm a bit worried about the market. Just trade safely. It'd be wise
NOT to catch the falling AXEs. Stick to TA and FA carefully, and DON'T GET
PANIC.

Btw, we have no position so we can't recommend anything.

Oh well, Only God knows what's the best for all of us.

Regards,
DE



On 10/18/07, JSX Sniper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  no ones can predict future...  dlm case bumi saat hrga di3800 siapa yg
> tau bakal drop ke3400an? kalau tau ya jual dulu?,then beli lagi di3500an en
> hold till 4600  tapi gimana klo sdh jual di3800an,tauny hrga justru naek
> lagi? we will lose `big killing profit...
>
> Pada tanggal 18/10/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > menulis:
> >
> >   Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita
> > bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh
> > terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg
> > mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di
> > 2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi
> > kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai
> > support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk
> > stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin
> > menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain
> >
> > Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi
> > serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut.
> >
> > Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang
> > kesempatan di "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi
> > sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull
> > back.
> >
> > Salam Highlander
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/07, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> > > it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan
> > > told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing
> > > opportunity.
> > >
> > > Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from
> > > 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only
> > > several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again
> > > as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you
> > > took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the
> > > 3525 level and win until 4600.
> > >
> > > You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide
> > > yourself what is the best for yourself.
> > >
> > > On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah
> > > > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi
> > hold
> > > > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear
> > > > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol.
> > > >
> > > > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always
> > > > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL)
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > 2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for
> > SMALL
> > > > BEAR.
> > > > >
> > > > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI
> > that
> > > > > could cause 200 point correction
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik JSX Sniper
no ones can predict future...  dlm case bumi saat hrga di3800 siapa yg tau
bakal drop ke3400an? kalau tau ya jual dulu?,then beli lagi di3500an en hold
till 4600  tapi gimana klo sdh jual di3800an,tauny hrga justru naek
lagi? we will lose `big killing profit...

Pada tanggal 18/10/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
>   Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita
> bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh
> terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg
> mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di
> 2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi
> kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai
> support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk
> stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin
> menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain
>
> Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi
> serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut.
>
> Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang
> kesempatan di "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi
> sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull
> back.
>
> Salam Highlander
>
> Joe
>
> On 10/18/07, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan
> > told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing
> > opportunity.
> >
> > Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from
> > 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only
> > several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again
> > as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you
> > took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the
> > 3525 level and win until 4600.
> >
> > You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide
> > yourself what is the best for yourself.
> >
> > On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah
> > > harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold
> > > tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear
> > > trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol.
> > >
> > > "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always
> > > was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL)
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > 2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for
> SMALL
> > > BEAR.
> > > >
> > > > All major BC stock almost reach their TP.
> > > >
> > > > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI
> that
> > > > could cause 200 point correction
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Joe Highlander
Ok bung, sedikit pandangan dari kaum HIGHLANDER/ CONTRARIAN, mari kita
bahas kasus bumi kemarin. Sebenarnya support 3525 saat tsb blm kokoh
terbentuk, kenapa? karena baru 2 bar yg
 mengconfirmnya. Seharusnya minimal 3 bar. Break all time high BUMI di
2875 dan ditambah bbrp avg up mestinya avg buy sekitar 3300 an. jadi
kalaupun real support 3450 msh bisa bertahan. Katakanlah tetap pakai
support 3525 (walau blm teruji), mestinya ada toleransi 3-5% untuk
stop loss, katakanlah 3%, berarti msh tahan di 3420. Kalo disiplin
menerapkannya tentu ceritanya lain

Saya cuman sharing disini prinsipnya adalah betul jangan kita jadi
serakah, tapi juga patut diingat jangan juga kita cepat jadi penakut.

Buat saya lebih baik akhirnya untung sedikit tapi tidak hilang
kesempatan di  "big killing profit", dari pada untung sedikit2 tapi
sering merasa kecepatan jual dan kehilangan posisi saat terjadi pull
back.


Salam Highlander

Joe

On 10/18/07, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan
> told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing
> opportunity.
>
> Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from
> 3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only
> several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again
> as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you
> took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the
> 3525 level and win until 4600.
>
> You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide
> yourself what is the best for yourself.
>
> On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah
> >  harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold
> >  tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear
> >  trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol.
> >
> >  "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always
> >  was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL)
> >
> >  Joe
> >
> >  2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL
> > BEAR.
> >  >
> >  > All major BC stock almost reach their TP.
> >  >
> >  > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that
> >  > could cause 200 point correction
> >  >
> >
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Bill

A VERY WISE ADVICE indeed.

Often said, yet seldom listened.
hiks

Most of successful trading barrier is psychological in nature.


  - Original Message - 
  From: James Arifin 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL


  it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan
  told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing
  opportunity.

  Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from
  3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only
  several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again
  as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you
  took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the
  3525 level and win until 4600.

  You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide
  yourself what is the best for yourself.

  . 
   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik James Arifin
it's better to stick to each one trading plan, if your trading plan
told you to take profit then take profit. No need to afraid of losing
opportunity.

Look the recent movement of BUMI that go down quite significant from
3850 until 3425 and broken its new support and then within only
several days it go up and broken 3850 and you miss opportunity again
as you need to cut profit below 3500 then chase 3875. While if you
took profit at 3750-3800 then you may have opportunity to join the
3525 level and win until 4600.

You can see that every trading method had its own flaw so decide
yourself what is the best for yourself.

On 10/18/07, Joe Highlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah
>  harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold
>  tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear
>  trap. Sell hanya jika support barunya nanti jebol.
>
>  "It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always
>  was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!" (JL)
>
>  Joe
>
>  2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL
> BEAR.
>  >
>  > All major BC stock almost reach their TP.
>  >
>  > Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that
>  > could cause 200 point correction
>  >
>  


Re: [obrolan-bandar] (NOT YET) TIME TO SELL

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Joe Highlander
Untuk yang masuk di break 52 wk highnya (harga beli masih dibawah
harga saat ini), ini saatnya membentuk support/ ressis baru, jadi hold
tight sampai support baru terbentuk. Ada kemungkinan ini hanya bear
trap. Sell hanya jika  support  barunya nanti jebol.

"It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always
was my sitting. Got that?  My sitting tight!"  (JL)

Joe

2007/10/18, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This is the right time to take a bit rest after prolong BULL for SMALL BEAR.
>
>  All major BC stock almost reach their TP.
>
>  Preserve your profit, especially Major turn will happened in DJI that
>  could cause 200 point correction
>