[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sekolah Terbuka (Belajar By Buku) is more than sufficient. i dont
> take fancy overseas bussiness college, nor did i pay much attention
> to teacher in class. but self-studying, practicing and literature
> reading in my opinion is effective and can easily be done by everyone
> who got passion and spirit to master the art of valuing company.
>


words of wisdom:
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fortune.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik wellgmail
Siapin ember saja pak buat nampung di bawah..

On 4/21/08, Ardomoro Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   PGAS jeblok karena didawngrade oleh CLSA dari BUY menjadi UNDERPERFORM
> dgn tp yang baru rp 12900, maka asing pada buang-buang 2 hari ini. Tapi
> anehnya, ML pada tgl  keluarin riset baru dengan MAINTAIN BUY dan tp
> rp.17500 dan hari ini ML plg banyak jualan PGAS. Asing memang paling bisa
> kalau ngibulin.
>
> *Terry Astradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  nunggu ayunan mantap dari pgas, baru deh naik ke atas..
>
> saat ayunan datang, baru deh masup, kalu ga ada ayunan, tapi harga
> dah terbang...yaa ... sudah brarti belum rejekinya deh..
>
> ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
> note: stay cool...jangan grasak grusuk..
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "kangduren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > CMIIW
> >
> > nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada berita bagus lagi dari
> > PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi dari tahun lalu (dah
> > selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo PGAS sementara
> invest...
> >
> > salam
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "tora" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > tanya dong...
> > >
> > > pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> > >
> > > trims.
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik Aga Sukmana
luar biasa kang ocoy...emang gak ada matinya ini...
   
  perlambat kecepatan Anda kang, sayah agak susah menyusul...kekeke
   
  salut...salut..

kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sekolah Terbuka (Belajar By Buku) is more than sufficient. i dont 
take fancy overseas bussiness college, nor did i pay much attention 
to teacher in class. but self-studying, practicing and literature 
reading in my opinion is effective and can easily be done by everyone 
who got passion and spirit to master the art of valuing company.

pro forma yg paling baru PGAS blon beres, masih cek bbrp kontrak 
penting PGAS buat tentuin asumsi volume penjualan. 


My Old DCF Base-Case Was Around 16000-Ish for 2008. ni asumsi2 baru 
mo diganti dulu.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "PyRiEL PyRiEL" 

wrote:
>
> menurut akang valuasi wajar berapa?
> btw ane mau dunk skulah valuasi biar bisa kayak kang ocoy..
> dimana yah?
> biar aku ndak ketipu mulu
> info yah kang
> 





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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Sekolah Terbuka (Belajar By Buku) is more than sufficient. i dont 
take fancy overseas bussiness college, nor did i pay much attention 
to teacher in class. but self-studying, practicing and literature 
reading in my opinion is effective and can easily be done by everyone 
who got passion and spirit to master the art of valuing company.

pro forma yg paling baru PGAS blon beres, masih cek bbrp kontrak 
penting PGAS buat tentuin asumsi volume penjualan.  


My Old DCF Base-Case Was Around 16000-Ish for 2008. ni asumsi2 baru 
mo diganti dulu.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "PyRiEL PyRiEL" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> menurut akang valuasi wajar berapa?
> btw ane mau dunk skulah valuasi biar bisa kayak kang ocoy..
> dimana yah?
> biar aku ndak ketipu mulu
> info yah kang
> 




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik bon odori
Boss Thom kalau pertanyaan kaya gini mending pakai PM aja gimana ?  langsung 
kesasaran ato ganti subjectnya jadi kalau kami pikir gak perlu langsung didelete

thom chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Kang.. maksudnya yang salah tuh 
researchnya karena 5%?

anyway.. sekolah Valuasi "yg berbobot" dimana sih.. jd
pengen belajar nih///

thx..

--- kang_ocoy_maen_saham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> PGAS Long Term View = Long-Term Growth Rate 5% 
> 

> Skolah Valuasi lagi gihhh... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
> 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik thom chris

kang,,, dijembrengin dong.. kupas tuntas hajar bleh...
valuasi khas kang ocoy on PGAS... 

biar kita2x para OBers bisa membedakannya...

NPVnya clsa berapa ya? kok ga berani di bawah 15k tp
target bs pe 12k-an yahh..
n ngitung..(nentuin).. terminal growth.. gimana yah
caranya?

menurut kang ocoy berapa.. dikupass-tuntas n cek ricek
dong biar pada ngerti juga nih kita2x.. maklum baca
risetnya clsa kurang paham...(cuma liat TPnya doang)
hweheehe...

hajar kang... cara bikin valuasi kayak org2 clsa
biar manyoksss...




trims b4..


--- kang_ocoy_maen_saham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> DCF Driven Minimum is at around 14000-Ish
> 
> I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with
> looking in the
> rear-view mirror, but if you're driving forward,
> it's probably wise to
> look out the windshield... I personally think the
> stuff bout PGAS is
> Its Long-Term Prospect. That is to say the main
> factor we should pay a
> close watch on PGAS is its project deliveries.
> delayed YES, but i
> personally think Its already on the price. not many
> firm got what PGAS
> potentially has (Terminal Growth rate above 5%).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "PyRiEL
> PyRiEL"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > menurut akang valuasi wajar berapa?
> > btw ane mau dunk skulah valuasi biar bisa kayak
> kang ocoy..
> > dimana yah?
> > biar aku ndak ketipu mulu
> > info yah kang
> > 
> > 2008/4/21 kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > >
> > > PGAS Short Term View = Dissapointing YES, LATE
> DELIVERY YES
> > >
> > > PGAS Long Term View = Long-Term Growth Rate
> 5%
> > >
> > > Skolah Valuasi lagi gihhh... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
> > >
> > > Hanya dengan kenaikan Volume 5% After 2010
> Pertaun en asumsi kenaikan
> > > gradual harga gas per taun 3% aja atleast medium
> term Growth Rate
> > > Assumption PGAS bisa diatas 7% Sustain minimal
> 10 tahun.
> > >
> > > VALUATION WARS EH?? BEGINI DOANK??
> > >
> > > BRING-IT-ON ANYWAY, U CANT KID AROUND W ME KALO
> CUMAN BEGINI DOANK!
> > >
> > > -Hint, angka Target KZ di derived BUKAN DR NILAI
> NPV NYA, TP DIA KASIH
> > > "DISKON" DR NPV KARENA DELIVERY MANAJEMEN PGAS
> MENGECEWAKAN, SEMENTARA
> > > MSLH DELIVERY INI BENER. TARGET NPV PGAS GAK
> MASALAH SO KUNCINYA
> > > ADALAH KALO TIBA2 ADA TURNAROUND MOMENTUM DI
> OPERASI PGAS., JANGAN
> > > TERKEJUT KALO SECEPET ITU JG NANTI DY BALIK KE
> "UPGRADE", LAH NPV DY
> > > AJA GA BERANI KASIH DIBAWAH 15000.
> > >
> > > my personal advice is go on the long view.,
> delivery manajemen PGAS
> > > emang culun, prinsip disclosure nya juga jelek.
> but that doesnt mean
> > > it deserves 40% MoS kecuali emang niat dapet
> barangnya di "40%" MoS.
> > > TURUNIN lg aja. DIKIT LG MASUK LABEL "VALUE"
> THAN I CAN START USING MY
> > > "LONG-AWAIT" BUSTER RIFLE...
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> > > Andi Wahyudi
> > >
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Valuation war begins?
> > > >
> > > > Ardomoro Winarto  wrote:
> > > PGAS jeblok karena didawngrade oleh CLSA dari
> BUY menjadi UNDERPERFORM
> > > dgn tp yang baru rp 12900, maka asing pada
> buang-buang 2 hari ini.
> > > Tapi anehnya, ML pada tgl keluarin riset baru
> dengan MAINTAIN BUY dan
> > > tp rp.17500 dan hari ini ML plg banyak jualan
> PGAS. Asing memang
> > > paling bisa kalau ngibulin.
> > > >
> > > > Terry Astradika  wrote:
> > > > nunggu ayunan mantap dari pgas, baru deh naik
> ke atas..
> > > >
> > > > saat ayunan datang, baru deh masup, kalu ga
> ada ayunan, tapi harga
> > > > dah terbang...yaa ... sudah brarti belum
> rejekinya deh..
> > > >
> > > > ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
> > > > note: stay cool...jangan grasak grusuk..
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> ,
> > > "kangduren" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > CMIIW
> > > > >
> > > > > nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada
> berita bagus lagi dari
> > > > > PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi
> dari tahun lalu (dah
> > > > > selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo
> PGAS sementara
> > > > invest...
> > > > >
> > > > > salam
> > > > > --- In
>
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "tora" 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tanya dong...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > trims.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik PyRiEL PyRiEL
iya pak..
skolahnya dimana..
belum dijawab..
pengen kayak kang ocoy, trus bagi2 ilmu kayak kang ocoy..

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:55 PM, thom chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   Kang.. maksudnya yang salah tuh researchnya karena 5%?
>
> anyway.. sekolah Valuasi "yg berbobot" dimana sih.. jd
> pengen belajar nih///
>
> thx..
>
> --- kang_ocoy_maen_saham
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> > PGAS Long Term View = Long-Term Growth Rate 5%
> >
>
> > Skolah Valuasi lagi gihhh... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
> >
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik thom chris
Kang.. maksudnya yang salah tuh researchnya karena 5%?

anyway.. sekolah Valuasi "yg berbobot" dimana sih.. jd
pengen belajar nih///





thx..




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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> PGAS Long Term View  = Long-Term Growth Rate 5% 
> 
 
> Skolah Valuasi lagi gihhh... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
> 



  

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
DCF Driven Minimum is at around 14000-Ish

I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with looking in the
rear-view mirror, but if you're driving forward, it's probably wise to
look out the windshield... I personally think the stuff bout PGAS is
Its Long-Term Prospect. That is to say the main factor we should pay a
close watch on PGAS is its project deliveries. delayed YES, but i
personally think Its already on the price. not many firm got what PGAS
potentially has (Terminal Growth rate above 5%).








--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "PyRiEL PyRiEL"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> menurut akang valuasi wajar berapa?
> btw ane mau dunk skulah valuasi biar bisa kayak kang ocoy..
> dimana yah?
> biar aku ndak ketipu mulu
> info yah kang
> 
> 2008/4/21 kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >
> > PGAS Short Term View = Dissapointing YES, LATE DELIVERY YES
> >
> > PGAS Long Term View = Long-Term Growth Rate 5%
> >
> > Skolah Valuasi lagi gihhh... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
> >
> > Hanya dengan kenaikan Volume 5% After 2010 Pertaun en asumsi kenaikan
> > gradual harga gas per taun 3% aja atleast medium term Growth Rate
> > Assumption PGAS bisa diatas 7% Sustain minimal 10 tahun.
> >
> > VALUATION WARS EH?? BEGINI DOANK??
> >
> > BRING-IT-ON ANYWAY, U CANT KID AROUND W ME KALO CUMAN BEGINI DOANK!
> >
> > -Hint, angka Target KZ di derived BUKAN DR NILAI NPV NYA, TP DIA KASIH
> > "DISKON" DR NPV KARENA DELIVERY MANAJEMEN PGAS MENGECEWAKAN, SEMENTARA
> > MSLH DELIVERY INI BENER. TARGET NPV PGAS GAK MASALAH SO KUNCINYA
> > ADALAH KALO TIBA2 ADA TURNAROUND MOMENTUM DI OPERASI PGAS., JANGAN
> > TERKEJUT KALO SECEPET ITU JG NANTI DY BALIK KE "UPGRADE", LAH NPV DY
> > AJA GA BERANI KASIH DIBAWAH 15000.
> >
> > my personal advice is go on the long view., delivery manajemen PGAS
> > emang culun, prinsip disclosure nya juga jelek. but that doesnt mean
> > it deserves 40% MoS kecuali emang niat dapet barangnya di "40%" MoS.
> > TURUNIN lg aja. DIKIT LG MASUK LABEL "VALUE" THAN I CAN START USING MY
> > "LONG-AWAIT" BUSTER RIFLE...
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
,
> > Andi Wahyudi
> >
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Valuation war begins?
> > >
> > > Ardomoro Winarto  wrote:
> > PGAS jeblok karena didawngrade oleh CLSA dari BUY menjadi UNDERPERFORM
> > dgn tp yang baru rp 12900, maka asing pada buang-buang 2 hari ini.
> > Tapi anehnya, ML pada tgl keluarin riset baru dengan MAINTAIN BUY dan
> > tp rp.17500 dan hari ini ML plg banyak jualan PGAS. Asing memang
> > paling bisa kalau ngibulin.
> > >
> > > Terry Astradika  wrote:
> > > nunggu ayunan mantap dari pgas, baru deh naik ke atas..
> > >
> > > saat ayunan datang, baru deh masup, kalu ga ada ayunan, tapi harga
> > > dah terbang...yaa ... sudah brarti belum rejekinya deh..
> > >
> > > ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
> > > note: stay cool...jangan grasak grusuk..
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
,
> > "kangduren" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > CMIIW
> > > >
> > > > nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada berita bagus lagi dari
> > > > PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi dari tahun lalu (dah
> > > > selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo PGAS sementara
> > > invest...
> > > >
> > > > salam
> > > > --- In
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> > "tora" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > tanya dong...
> > > > >
> > > > > pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> > > > >
> > > > > trims.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik PyRiEL PyRiEL
menurut akang valuasi wajar berapa?
btw ane mau dunk skulah valuasi biar bisa kayak kang ocoy..
dimana yah?
biar aku ndak ketipu mulu
info yah kang

2008/4/21 kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> PGAS Short Term View = Dissapointing YES, LATE DELIVERY YES
>
> PGAS Long Term View = Long-Term Growth Rate 5%
>
> Skolah Valuasi lagi gihhh... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
>
> Hanya dengan kenaikan Volume 5% After 2010 Pertaun en asumsi kenaikan
> gradual harga gas per taun 3% aja atleast medium term Growth Rate
> Assumption PGAS bisa diatas 7% Sustain minimal 10 tahun.
>
> VALUATION WARS EH?? BEGINI DOANK??
>
> BRING-IT-ON ANYWAY, U CANT KID AROUND W ME KALO CUMAN BEGINI DOANK!
>
> -Hint, angka Target KZ di derived BUKAN DR NILAI NPV NYA, TP DIA KASIH
> "DISKON" DR NPV KARENA DELIVERY MANAJEMEN PGAS MENGECEWAKAN, SEMENTARA
> MSLH DELIVERY INI BENER. TARGET NPV PGAS GAK MASALAH SO KUNCINYA
> ADALAH KALO TIBA2 ADA TURNAROUND MOMENTUM DI OPERASI PGAS., JANGAN
> TERKEJUT KALO SECEPET ITU JG NANTI DY BALIK KE "UPGRADE", LAH NPV DY
> AJA GA BERANI KASIH DIBAWAH 15000.
>
> my personal advice is go on the long view., delivery manajemen PGAS
> emang culun, prinsip disclosure nya juga jelek. but that doesnt mean
> it deserves 40% MoS kecuali emang niat dapet barangnya di "40%" MoS.
> TURUNIN lg aja. DIKIT LG MASUK LABEL "VALUE" THAN I CAN START USING MY
> "LONG-AWAIT" BUSTER RIFLE...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> Andi Wahyudi
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Valuation war begins?
> >
> > Ardomoro Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PGAS jeblok karena didawngrade oleh CLSA dari BUY menjadi UNDERPERFORM
> dgn tp yang baru rp 12900, maka asing pada buang-buang 2 hari ini.
> Tapi anehnya, ML pada tgl keluarin riset baru dengan MAINTAIN BUY dan
> tp rp.17500 dan hari ini ML plg banyak jualan PGAS. Asing memang
> paling bisa kalau ngibulin.
> >
> > Terry Astradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > nunggu ayunan mantap dari pgas, baru deh naik ke atas..
> >
> > saat ayunan datang, baru deh masup, kalu ga ada ayunan, tapi harga
> > dah terbang...yaa ... sudah brarti belum rejekinya deh..
> >
> > ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
> > note: stay cool...jangan grasak grusuk..
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "kangduren" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > CMIIW
> > >
> > > nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada berita bagus lagi dari
> > > PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi dari tahun lalu (dah
> > > selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo PGAS sementara
> > invest...
> > >
> > > salam
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "tora" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > tanya dong...
> > > >
> > > > pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> > > >
> > > > trims.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham

PGAS Short Term View = Dissapointing YES, LATE DELIVERY YES

PGAS Long Term View  = Long-Term Growth Rate 5% 




Skolah Valuasi lagi gihhh... HEHEHEHEHEHEHE

Hanya dengan kenaikan Volume 5% After 2010 Pertaun en asumsi kenaikan
gradual harga gas per taun 3% aja atleast medium term Growth Rate
Assumption PGAS bisa diatas 7% Sustain minimal 10 tahun.




VALUATION WARS EH?? BEGINI DOANK?? 



BRING-IT-ON ANYWAY, U CANT KID AROUND W ME KALO CUMAN BEGINI DOANK!



-Hint, angka Target KZ di derived BUKAN DR NILAI NPV NYA, TP DIA KASIH
"DISKON" DR NPV KARENA DELIVERY MANAJEMEN PGAS MENGECEWAKAN, SEMENTARA
MSLH DELIVERY INI BENER. TARGET NPV PGAS GAK MASALAH SO KUNCINYA
ADALAH KALO TIBA2 ADA TURNAROUND MOMENTUM DI OPERASI PGAS., JANGAN
TERKEJUT KALO SECEPET ITU JG NANTI DY BALIK KE "UPGRADE", LAH NPV DY
AJA GA BERANI KASIH DIBAWAH 15000.




my personal advice is go on the long view., delivery manajemen PGAS
emang culun, prinsip disclosure nya juga jelek. but that doesnt mean
it deserves 40% MoS kecuali emang niat dapet barangnya di "40%" MoS.
TURUNIN lg aja. DIKIT LG MASUK LABEL "VALUE" THAN I CAN START USING MY
"LONG-AWAIT" BUSTER RIFLE...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Valuation war begins?
> 
> Ardomoro Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PGAS jeblok karena didawngrade oleh CLSA dari BUY menjadi UNDERPERFORM
dgn tp yang baru rp 12900, maka asing pada buang-buang 2 hari ini.
Tapi anehnya, ML pada tgl  keluarin riset baru dengan MAINTAIN BUY dan
tp rp.17500 dan hari ini ML plg banyak jualan PGAS. Asing memang
paling bisa kalau ngibulin.
> 
> Terry Astradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
> nunggu ayunan mantap dari pgas, baru deh naik ke atas..
> 
> saat ayunan datang, baru deh masup, kalu ga ada ayunan, tapi harga 
> dah terbang...yaa ... sudah brarti belum rejekinya  deh..
> 
> ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
> note: stay cool...jangan grasak grusuk..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kangduren"  
> wrote:
> >
> > CMIIW
> > 
> > nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada berita bagus lagi dari 
> > PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi dari tahun lalu (dah 
> > selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo PGAS sementara 
> invest...
> > 
> > salam
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tora"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > tanya dong...
> > > 
> > > pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> > > 
> > > trims.
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-21 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Valuation war begins?

Ardomoro Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PGAS 
jeblok karena didawngrade oleh CLSA dari BUY menjadi UNDERPERFORM dgn tp yang 
baru rp 12900, maka asing pada buang-buang 2 hari ini. Tapi anehnya, ML pada 
tgl  keluarin riset baru dengan MAINTAIN BUY dan tp rp.17500 dan hari ini ML 
plg banyak jualan PGAS. Asing memang paling bisa kalau ngibulin.

Terry Astradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
nunggu ayunan mantap dari pgas, baru deh naik ke atas..

saat ayunan datang, baru deh masup, kalu ga ada ayunan, tapi harga 
dah terbang...yaa ... sudah brarti belum rejekinya  deh..

ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
note: stay cool...jangan grasak grusuk..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kangduren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> CMIIW
> 
> nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada berita bagus lagi dari 
> PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi dari tahun lalu (dah 
> selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo PGAS sementara 
invest...
> 
> salam
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tora"  
> wrote:
> >
> > tanya dong...
> > 
> > pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> > 
> > trims.
> >
>




   

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-20 Terurut Topik Terry Astradika
nunggu ayunan mantap dari pgas, baru deh naik ke atas..

saat ayunan datang, baru deh masup, kalu ga ada ayunan, tapi harga 
dah terbang...yaa ... sudah brarti belum rejekinya deh..

ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
note: stay cool...jangan grasak grusuk..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kangduren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> CMIIW
> 
> nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada berita bagus lagi dari 
> PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi dari tahun lalu (dah 
> selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo PGAS sementara 
invest...
> 
> salam
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tora"  
> wrote:
> >
> > tanya dong...
> > 
> > pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> > 
> > trims.
> >
>




[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanya PGAS jeblok

2008-04-20 Terurut Topik kangduren
CMIIW

nyeletuk dikit mudah2an ga salah, belon ada berita bagus lagi dari 
PGAS tapi sepertinya FM gede dah akumulasi dari tahun lalu (dah 
selesai akumulasi), coba liat chartnya, kalo PGAS sementara invest...

salam
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> tanya dong...
> 
> pgas ada berita apa kok jeblok terus ?
> 
> trims.
>