Dow IHSG pasca 18 September RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-16 Terurut Topik Gandhi Hadiwitanto
Apakah benar, indeks Dow yang merambat naik terus ini sudah
mencerminkan/mengasumsikan penurunan Fed rate? Sehingga kalau Fed rate jadi
turun, Dow tidak akan naik signifikan lagi. Tapi kalau Fed rate tetap
(unchange) akan jadi malapetaka buat Dow.

 

Sebaliknya, IHSG yang melempem belakangan ini  justeru
mencerminkan/mengasumsikan Fed rate tetap. Jadi kalau Fed rate turun akan
jadi bonus buat mendongkrak IHSG. Tapi kalaupun Fed rate tetap, IHSG tidak
akan banyak turun.

 

Betulkah demikian?

 

Salam,

Gandhi

 

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Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

 

Tadi DOW sempet -90... baru meleng dikit udh ijo lagi... ah kebanyakan
DATA and kebanyakan LAGAK nih bule-bule

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Retail sales miss expectations
Overall retail sales rose a weaker-than-expected 0.3% in August, as 
ex-auto sales fell 0.4%; July revised higher.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/14/news/economy/august_retailsales/index.
htm?postversion=2007091408

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-14 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Retail sales miss expectations
Overall retail sales rose a weaker-than-expected 0.3% in August, as 
ex-auto sales fell 0.4%; July revised higher.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/14/news/economy/august_retailsales/index.
htm?postversion=2007091408



RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-14 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Tadi DOW sempet -90... baru meleng dikit udh ijo lagi... ah kebanyakan
DATA and kebanyakan LAGAK nih bule-bule

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Sent: 14 September 2007 20:29
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

Retail sales miss expectations
Overall retail sales rose a weaker-than-expected 0.3% in August, as 
ex-auto sales fell 0.4%; July revised higher.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/14/news/economy/august_retailsales/index.
htm?postversion=2007091408



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-13 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
US Retail Sales Data jika sesuai forecast (0,6%) , menurut saya 
semakin besar probabilitas The Fed tdk akan menurunkan fund rate ... 




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik Odink
gimana mbah, ada komentar tentang 'it's oil all about'..
ihsg udah di level kritis nih

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 Dgn oil price yg tinggi saat ini , saya benar2 tdk bisa menebak apa yg
 akan terjadi 18 Sept jika US fund rate turun ...


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Jangan lupa Shinzo Abe (PM Jepang) mau resign, for some reason.

http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/09/tgl/12/tim
e/115407/idnews/828909/idkanal/10

Tadinya saya mau masuk hari ini, tapi kok hati nggak sreg.. ah memang belum
waktunya kali...



Regards,
DE


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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

Dgn oil price yg tinggi saat ini , saya benar2 tdk bisa menebak apa yg 
akan terjadi 18 Sept jika US fund rate turun ...



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik James Arifin
masuk besok aja lah ... kalau nggak masuk2 pas turun takut turun lagi
pas sudah naik kecepatan takut turun lagi ... kapan main sahamnya.

On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Jangan lupa Shinzo Abe (PM Jepang) mau resign, for some reason.

 http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/09/tgl/12/tim
  e/115407/idnews/828909/idkanal/10

  Tadinya saya mau masuk hari ini, tapi kok hati nggak sreg.. ah memang belum
  waktunya kali...

  Regards,
  DE

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of bernanke20551
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:29 PM
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

  Dgn oil price yg tinggi saat ini , saya benar2 tdk bisa menebak apa yg
  akan terjadi 18 Sept jika US fund rate turun ...

  


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik Odink
abis jepang, pm rusia jg ikut mundur..

hehee hebat ya.. kl disini sih ude diteriakin didemo suruh mundur jg gak  
turun2 dan muka badak =))

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:24:02 +0700, Dean Earwicker  
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 Jangan lupa Shinzo Abe (PM Jepang) mau resign, for some reason.

 http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/09/tgl/12/tim
 e/115407/idnews/828909/idkanal/10

 Tadinya saya mau masuk hari ini, tapi kok hati nggak sreg.. ah memang  
 belum
 waktunya kali...


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik Rei
Lha koq mau masuknya hari ini pak DE? Nggak sekalian nunggu 
18/9...nanggung! :)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jangan lupa Shinzo Abe (PM Jepang) mau resign, for some reason.
 
 
http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/09/tgl
/12/tim
 e/115407/idnews/828909/idkanal/10
 
 Tadinya saya mau masuk hari ini, tapi kok hati nggak sreg.. ah 
memang belum
 waktunya kali...
 
 
 
 Regards,
 DE
 
 
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 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
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 On Behalf Of bernanke20551
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:29 PM
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 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange
 
 Dgn oil price yg tinggi saat ini , saya benar2 tdk bisa menebak 
apa yg 
 akan terjadi 18 Sept jika US fund rate turun ...





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Ahahaha kompo.

emang JA pegang apa sih?

Regards,
DE

On 9/12/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 masuk besok aja lah ... kalau nggak masuk2 pas turun takut turun lagi
 pas sudah naik kecepatan takut turun lagi ... kapan main sahamnya.

 On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Jangan lupa Shinzo Abe (PM Jepang) mau resign, for some reason.
 
 
 http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/09/tgl/12/tim
   e/115407/idnews/828909/idkanal/10
 
   Tadinya saya mau masuk hari ini, tapi kok hati nggak sreg.. ah memang
 belum
   waktunya kali...
 
   Regards,
   DE
 
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   Dgn oil price yg tinggi saat ini , saya benar2 tdk bisa menebak apa yg
   akan terjadi 18 Sept jika US fund rate turun ...
 
 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Oil Price US$ 79,29/barrel ... gmn US fund rate mau turun ya ?



[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik Rei
Iya nih tapi menurut saya minyak ini sementara. Opec menambah minyak 
dgn excess production dan ini naik terkait badai, laporan inventory 
minyak di US yg biasanya akan berlalu setelah terjadi ekulibrium lagi. 
Minyak akan turun lagi (semoga)... Tapi ini all time high ya.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bernanke20551 
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 Oil Price US$ 79,29/barrel ... gmn US fund rate mau turun ya ?





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-12 Terurut Topik James Arifin
maksudnya mau pegang barang yang sama yah ... BUMI, ELTY, TINS, INCO, TMPI

On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ahahaha kompo.

 emang JA pegang apa sih?

 Regards,
 DE

 On 9/12/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  masuk besok aja lah ... kalau nggak masuk2 pas turun takut turun lagi
  pas sudah naik kecepatan takut turun lagi ... kapan main sahamnya.
 
  On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Jangan lupa Shinzo Abe (PM Jepang) mau resign, for some reason.
  
   http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/09/tgl/12/tim
 
e/115407/idnews/828909/idkanal/10
  
Tadinya saya mau masuk hari ini, tapi kok hati nggak sreg.. ah memang
  belum
waktunya kali...
  
Regards,
DE
  
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On Behalf Of bernanke20551
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Dgn oil price yg tinggi saat ini , saya benar2 tdk bisa menebak apa
  yg
akan terjadi 18 Sept jika US fund rate turun ...
  
  
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-11 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Dgn oil price yg tinggi saat ini , saya benar2 tdk bisa menebak apa yg 
akan terjadi 18 Sept jika US fund rate turun ...




[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Sampai pk 15.16 foreign net sell ( -244,7 M ) ... kenapa ?




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik Eka Suwandana
Iya saya juga ada feeling the fed fund rate nggak
turun!
--- exindo_trade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 kalo gak turun? ancur juga. Resesi? Tinggal dihitung
 mana yg lebih 
 rugi kalo gitu.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 bernanke20551 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ini pendapat saya krn oil price yg tinggi akan
 masih menyebabkan 
  inflasi di US  US Bonds akan hancur jika fund
 rate turun ... thx
 
 
 
 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
minggu ini banyak US data akan keluar seperti consumer credit , 
consumer spending , trade balance , retail sales dll ... semoga tidak 
sejelek seperti forecast ...



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Jadwal pengumuman, silakan dipilih mana yang kira-kira ijo, mana yang merah.

Monday: 3:00 PM - Consumer Credit
Tuesday: 8:30 AM - Trade Balance
Wednesday: 10:30 AM - Crude Inventories
Thursday: 8:30 AM - Initial Claims
Friday: 8:30 AM - Retail Sales


Regards,
DE

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 minggu ini banyak US data akan keluar seperti consumer credit ,
 consumer spending , trade balance , retail sales dll ... semoga tidak
 sejelek seperti forecast ...



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik ihsg 88
Selasa:
8:30 Trade Balance
10.00 ECB President Trichet Speaks
11.00 Fed Cahirman Bernanke Speaks

Rabu:
10.30 Crude Oil Inventories

Kamis:
8.30 Unemployment claims

Jumat:
Retail Sales  Core Retail Sales
Industrial Production
Consumer Sentiment
Current Account
Import Price Index


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
itu bule-bule kebanyakan data... Bikin pusing sendiri and nyusahin orang lain 
aja. 

Kalo datanya bagus ya sukur kalo jelek ya biarin aja deh. Yg penting kita semua 
jangan panik karena menurut saya dalam kondisi market kaya sekarang ini yg 
paling BERBAHAYA adalah rasa takut yg berlebihan alias parno. 

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network

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Jadwal pengumuman, silakan dipilih mana yang kira-kira ijo, mana yang merah.

Monday: 3:00 PM - Consumer Credit
Tuesday: 8:30 AM - Trade Balance
Wednesday: 10:30 AM - Crude Inventories 
Thursday: 8:30 AM - Initial Claims
Friday: 8:30 AM - Retail Sales


Regards,
DE


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akan keluar seperti consumer credit , 
consumer spending , trade balance , retail sales dll ... semoga tidak
sejelek seperti forecast ...



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- China's inflation accelerated to the highest 
rate in more than 10 years, adding pressure on the central bank to 
raise interest rates for a fifth time since March to cool the world's 
fastest-growing major economy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?
pid=20601087sid=aKEmtjspguBkrefer=home#



RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Semua negara tahan/naikin rate, US malah disuruh turun..

Apa bisa?


Regards,
DE

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:31 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- China's inflation accelerated to the highest 
rate in more than 10 years, adding pressure on the central bank to 
raise interest rates for a fifth time since March to cool the world's 
fastest-growing major economy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?
pid=20601087sid=aKEmtjspguBkrefer=home#



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Fed : Fund Rate Unchange

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik Eka Suwandana
Iya ini juga pertanyaan saya bisa nggak the fed fund rate turun disaat seluruh 
dunia naikan suku bunganya?

bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sept. 11 (Bloomberg) -- 
China's inflation accelerated to the highest 
rate in more than 10 years, adding pressure on the central bank to 
raise interest rates for a fifth time since March to cool the world's 
fastest-growing major economy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?
pid=20601087sid=aKEmtjspguBkrefer=home#