RE: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : Executive Summary; below Rp8000 is safe level!

2006-08-31 Terurut Topik T Halim



Where is it going ? After last week analysis today it ends up at 5400. Bought to test the water few lots.Forecas Westpac harga nikel thn depan bisa anjlog krn perlambatan pertumbuhan ekonomi.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086sid=au5qz3SPw2UoSementara Financial Times cerita persediaan nikel dihitung dalam jam skrg ini bukan lagi day inventory. Volatilitas masih tetap tinggi walau LME sudah intervensi.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ft/20060830/bs_ft/fto083020061259185608th 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : Executive Summary; below Rp8000 is safe level!, berhitung

2006-08-30 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





Q106 - 131.034.151.000 EPS q1 68,7, ann 
274
H106 - 515.190.211.000EPS h1 270.1 ann 
540.

Dengan mengurangkan result H1 dengan Q1, didapatkan 
EPS q2 = 270.1-68.7= 201.4
Melihat harga nickel soar pada bulan Juli, Agustus 
dan perkiraan harga bulan September, ane yakin kinerja q3 dapat dipertahankan 
sedikitnya seperti q2.
Sehingga, EPS YTD Q3 ane prediksi = 
68.7+201.4+201.4=471.5
Jadi Annualized EPS Q3minimnya = 
471.5*4/3 = 628.6

Untuk q4 agak susah prediksinya, 3 bulan ke depan 
ane ga tau apa yang akan terjadi (only GOD knows).
Konservatif sekali kinerja Q4 EPSnya sama dgn Q1, 
maka EPS annualized = 540
Kalo optimis kinerja Q3 melebihi Q2, Q4 lebih 
bagus dari Q1, EPS sekitar 700-800






  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  EKA 
  SUWANDANA 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:05 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : 
  Executive Summary; below Rp8000 is safe level!
  
  
  
  Minimum Fair Value is Rp 8000/share, I have that when the nickel 
  price was 8-9 USD/lb (FENI III not counted). I also had Rp 7000-8000/share as 
  fair value when the nickel price still was 6,7 USD/lb (FENI III is 
  counted).
  
  So below Rp 8000,-, it is, i can say , a safe 
  lavel.Now the nickel price, for 3 month future is between 
  13,1-13,5 USD/lb, the spot however is around 15 USD/lb.
  Please read the news about nickel below from REUTERS:
  
  Nickel near high on stocks, but growth 
  worries
  Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:46 PM GMT
  
  
  By Nick Trevethan
  LONDON (Reuters) - Nickel hovered near a record $29,950 a tonne on 
  Thursday as available stocks held at about half a day of global consumption, 
  but slowing economic growth may dampen the longer term outlook for 
  metals.
  "Nickel is tight, but stocks are holding. Medium term, there is potential 
  for more on the upside in copper, nickel and zinc," BaseMetals.com analyst 
  William Adams said.
  But the risk of slowing economic growth, particularly in the United 
  States, meant the longer-term outlook was less bright.
  "We will see firm demand from Asia, but I am concerned about a slowdown 
  in the United States," Adams said.
  "The impact of higher rates and a weaker housing market may take time to 
  feed into metals, but if the U.S. consumer slows there will be a knock-on 
  effect for China and other Asian manufacturers."
  New orders for U.S.-made durable goods fell by 2.4 percent in July, which 
  was much more than expected, as civilian aircraft and car orders tumbled, a 
  government report showed.
  On Wednesday the National Association of Realtors reported U.S. July 
  existing homes sales fell to their lowest since January 2004.
  "The housing market doesn't seem to be cooling; it actually seems to be 
  getting frigid," said Michael Metz, chief investment strategist at Oppenheimer 
   Co. in New York.
  Nickel gained $975 or 3.4 percent to $29,675/29,700 at midday, but 
  volumes were limited at 155 lots as investors steered clear of a market 
  crippled by low stocks.
  LME-monitored warehouse stocks fell 240 tonnes to 6,426 tonnes, of which 
  only 1,716 were available to the market to support global consumption of 3,600 
  tonnes a day.
  "I am amazed that the price is this high, but the supply situation 
  probably justifies it," a dealer said.
  He added that the high prices might hurt the market in the longer term as 
  nickel consumers, mostly stainless steel mills, looked for alternatives.
  Copper was up $50 at $7,660 and aluminium rose $14 to $2,497.
  Traders said investors would track events at BHP Billiton's giant 
  Escondida copper mine in Chile, where a 2-1/2-week strike has cut production 
  by half at the operation, which produces 8 percent of the world's 
copper.
  "This isn't a bad thing for BHP Billiton. They have a lot of other 
  producing mines and their shares are going up on the back of stronger copper 
  prices," the dealer said.
  "A settlement will have a kneejerk reaction and prices will drop, but 
  speculators may use a sell-off to pick up a few bargains as later this year 
  there are more pay talks that cover about 20 percent of the world's 
  production," he said.
  Luis Troncoso, president of the 2,052-member union at Escondida, said: 
  "We are back at step one. At this time there are no talks with the 
  company...because they said they've given all they are going to give, so the 
  dialogue was shut off immediately."
  On Wednesday BHP Billiton announced a record $10.45 billion profit for 
  fiscal 2006. The company's shares were little changed at about 1007 
  pence.
  Chip Goodyear, chief executive of BHP Billiton Ltd./Plc., the world's top 
  miner, said late on Wednesday that demand for goods such as washing machines, 
  air conditioners and cars in developing nations like China was unlikely to let 
  up, driving up demand for metals.
  Zinc was at $3,395/3,41

RE: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : Executive Summary; below Rp8000 is safe level!

2006-08-24 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Minimum Fair Value is Rp 8000/share, I have that when the nickel price was 8-9 USD/lb (FENI III not counted). I also had Rp 7000-8000/share as fair value when the nickel price still was 6,7 USD/lb (FENI III is counted).So below Rp 8000,-, it is, i can say , a safe lavel.Now the nickel price, for 3 month future is between 13,1-13,5 USD/lb, the spot however is around 15 USD/lb.  Please read the news about nickel below from REUTERS:Nickel near high on stocks, but growth worries  Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:46 PM GMT  By Nick
 Trevethan  LONDON (Reuters) - Nickel hovered near a record $29,950 a tonne on Thursday as available stocks held at about half a day of global consumption, but slowing economic growth may dampen the longer term outlook for metals.  "Nickel is tight, but stocks are holding. Medium term, there is potential for more on the upside in copper, nickel and zinc," BaseMetals.com analyst William Adams said.  But the risk of slowing economic growth, particularly in the United States, meant the longer-term outlook was less bright.  "We will see firm demand from Asia, but I am concerned about a slowdown in the United States," Adams said.  "The impact of higher rates and a weaker housing market may take time to feed into metals, but if the U.S. consumer slows there will be a knock-on effect for China and other Asian manufacturers."  New orders for U.S.-made durable goods fell by 2.4 percent in July, which was much more
 than expected, as civilian aircraft and car orders tumbled, a government report showed.  On Wednesday the National Association of Realtors reported U.S. July existing homes sales fell to their lowest since January 2004.  "The housing market doesn't seem to be cooling; it actually seems to be getting frigid," said Michael Metz, chief investment strategist at Oppenheimer  Co. in New York.  Nickel gained $975 or 3.4 percent to $29,675/29,700 at midday, but volumes were limited at 155 lots as investors steered clear of a market crippled by low stocks.  LME-monitored warehouse stocks fell 240 tonnes to 6,426 tonnes, of which only 1,716 were available to the market to support global consumption of 3,600 tonnes a day.  "I am amazed that the price is this high, but the supply situation probably justifies it," a dealer said.  He added that the high prices might hurt the market in the longer term as nickel
 consumers, mostly stainless steel mills, looked for alternatives.  Copper was up $50 at $7,660 and aluminium rose $14 to $2,497.  Traders said investors would track events at BHP Billiton's giant Escondida copper mine in Chile, where a 2-1/2-week strike has cut production by half at the operation, which produces 8 percent of the world's copper.  "This isn't a bad thing for BHP Billiton. They have a lot of other producing mines and their shares are going up on the back of stronger copper prices," the dealer said.  "A settlement will have a kneejerk reaction and prices will drop, but speculators may use a sell-off to pick up a few bargains as later this year there are more pay talks that cover about 20 percent of the world's production," he said.  Luis Troncoso, president of the 2,052-member union at Escondida, said: "We are back at step one. At this time there are no talks with the company...because they said they've
 given all they are going to give, so the dialogue was shut off immediately."  On Wednesday BHP Billiton announced a record $10.45 billion profit for fiscal 2006. The company's shares were little changed at about 1007 pence.  Chip Goodyear, chief executive of BHP Billiton Ltd./Plc., the world's top miner, said late on Wednesday that demand for goods such as washing machines, air conditioners and cars in developing nations like China was unlikely to let up, driving up demand for metals.  Zinc was at $3,395/3,415, up $51.  Zinifex Ltd., the world's second-largest zinc producer, on Thursday forecast a strong year ahead on further growth in metals prices as global demand for industrial raw materials, led by China, outran supply.© Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.   Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 At the moment, ANTM couldn’t reach round number (i.e.6,000) as strong resistence – so it’s pulling-back right now…Anyhow,
 I still believe that it wants to trying to breaking-up again that round number coming soon - continously reflecting such sound fundamental, higher metal prices then  -Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com] On Behalf Of Frederick SchubertSent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:06 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : Executive Summary; fundamental fair value : USD 1++/share  i know exactly the different of SGD and USD.my comment was aimedto jokingly observe the reference of the chart which combinestrade volume and preferences ofinvestors
 enthusiasm...anyway, there was an old story of ANTM regarding its failure to convinceregulatory