Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia

2008-09-25 Terurut Topik abdulrahim abdulrahim
Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu?

Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu,
apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep?

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar?

 Salam,
 Cumi, Cuma Mimpi


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 Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia,

 Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie  Brothers (BNBR)
 Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the company.
 In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a brief
 period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in
 the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner.

 Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta
 Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti.

 On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75
 million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom (BMTR)
 controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest, used
 by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business.

 Collaterals of the facility are:
 1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion.

 2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal
 value of Rp68 billion, and

 3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value of
 these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455).
 It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals
 from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the assets.
 Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45 million
 in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report, the
 facility has been fully recovered.

 Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had
 fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007.
 On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL) amended
 the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of the
 exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20
 warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for
 111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the
 current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion.

 On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman Brothers
 Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100
 million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec
 2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to
 US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion.

 Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to get
 better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely get
 significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing.

 DAVOmas
 In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with Lehman
 with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a fixed
 rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008,
 Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from 6.37%
 (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman shares
 in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has divested
 the shares.

 Intikeramik
 Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially
 planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to
 disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah
 Indonesia Finance (ALIF).

 Gajah Tunggal
 Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah Tunggal.
 Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes issued
 by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah Tunggal Group, with combined
 outstanding of US$102 million late last year.


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia

2008-09-25 Terurut Topik Juragan Cumi
Orang bangkrut mah dah gak punya waktu panjang buat mainin, jadi
paling-paling ya diobral aja, abis itu terserah si penampung buangannya mau
dibawa kemana.

Kali sama kayak orang mau cerai yah, likuidasi harta secepatnya supaya
segera bisa dibagi jadi harta gono-gini. Makanya kalo mau cari rumah murah
ya cari yang mau cerai. Aih, bukan ndoain yang jelek yah ...

Salam,
Cumi, Cuma Mimpi


On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu?

 Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu,
 apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep?

 On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar?
 
  Salam,
  Cumi, Cuma Mimpi
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
 
 
  Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia,
 
  Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie  Brothers
 (BNBR)
  Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the
 company.
  In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a
 brief
  period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in
  the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner.
 
  Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta
  Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti.
 
  On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75
  million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom
 (BMTR)
  controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest,
 used
  by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business.
 
  Collaterals of the facility are:
  1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion.
 
  2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal
  value of Rp68 billion, and
 
  3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value
 of
  these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455).
  It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals
  from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the
 assets.
  Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45
 million
  in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report,
 the
  facility has been fully recovered.
 
  Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had
  fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007.
  On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL)
 amended
  the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of
 the
  exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20
  warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for
  111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the
  current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion.
 
  On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman
 Brothers
  Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100
  million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec
  2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to
  US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion.
 
  Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to
 get
  better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely
 get
  significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing.
 
  DAVOmas
  In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with
 Lehman
  with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a
 fixed
  rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008,
  Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from
 6.37%
  (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman
 shares
  in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has
 divested
  the shares.
 
  Intikeramik
  Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially
  planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to
  disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah
  Indonesia Finance (ALIF).
 
  Gajah Tunggal
  Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah
 Tunggal.
  Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes
 issued
  by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah Tunggal Group, with combined
  outstanding of US$102 million late last year.

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia

2008-09-25 Terurut Topik SSTrader-03
juragan cumi nich dapet beritanya yg jitu2 nich..thanks for sharing 



On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Orang bangkrut mah dah gak punya waktu panjang buat mainin, jadi
 paling-paling ya diobral aja, abis itu terserah si penampung buangannya mau
 dibawa kemana.

 Kali sama kayak orang mau cerai yah, likuidasi harta secepatnya supaya
 segera bisa dibagi jadi harta gono-gini. Makanya kalo mau cari rumah murah
 ya cari yang mau cerai. Aih, bukan ndoain yang jelek yah ...

 Salam,
 Cumi, Cuma Mimpi


 On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu?

 Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu,
 apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep?

 On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar?
 
  Salam,
  Cumi, Cuma Mimpi
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
 
 
  Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia,
 
  Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie  Brothers
 (BNBR)
  Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the
 company.
  In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a
 brief
  period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions
 in
  the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner.
 
  Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta
  Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti.
 
  On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75
  million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom
 (BMTR)
  controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest,
 used
  by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business.
 
  Collaterals of the facility are:
  1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion.
 
  2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal
  value of Rp68 billion, and
 
  3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The
 value of
  these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455).
  It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the
 collaterals
  from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the
 assets.
  Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45
 million
  in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report,
 the
  facility has been fully recovered.
 
  Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had
  fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August
 2007.
  On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL)
 amended
  the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of
 the
  exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20
  warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for
  111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the
  current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion.
 
  On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman
 Brothers
  Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100
  million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of
 Dec
  2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to
  US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion.
 
  Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to
 get
  better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely
 get
  significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing.
 
  DAVOmas
  In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with
 Lehman
  with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a
 fixed
  rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008,
  Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from
 6.37%
  (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman
 shares
  in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has
 divested
  the shares.
 
  Intikeramik
  Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially
  planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to
  disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah
  Indonesia Finance (ALIF).
 
  Gajah Tunggal
  Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah
 Tunggal.
  Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes
 issued
  by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah Tunggal Group, with
 combined
  outstanding of US$102 million late last year.

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia

2008-09-25 Terurut Topik simon bolenang
Kalau Macquire Bank di Australia ada hubungannya ngak ya?
Mungkin ada yg tau.

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, SSTrader-03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: SSTrader-03 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 7:09 AM







juragan cumi nich dapet beritanya yg jitu2 nich..thanks for sharing 




On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:







Orang bangkrut mah dah gak punya waktu panjang buat mainin, jadi paling-paling 
ya diobral aja, abis itu terserah si penampung buangannya mau dibawa kemana.

Kali sama kayak orang mau cerai yah, likuidasi harta secepatnya supaya segera 
bisa dibagi jadi harta gono-gini. Makanya kalo mau cari rumah murah ya cari 
yang mau cerai. Aih, bukan ndoain yang jelek yah ...

Salam,
Cumi, Cuma Mimpi






On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] com wrote:




Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu?

Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu,
apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep?




On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
 Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar?

 Salam,
 Cumi, Cuma Mimpi


 -- Forwarded message --


 Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia,

 Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie  Brothers (BNBR)
 Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the company.
 In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a brief
 period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in
 the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner.

 Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta
 Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti.

 On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75
 million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom (BMTR)
 controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest, used
 by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business.

 Collaterals of the facility are:
 1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion.

 2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal
 value of Rp68 billion, and

 3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value of
 these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455).
 It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals
 from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the assets.
 Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45 million
 in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report, the
 facility has been fully recovered.

 Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had
 fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007.
 On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL) amended
 the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of the
 exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20
 warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for
 111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the
 current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion.

 On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman Brothers
 Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100
 million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec
 2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to
 US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion.

 Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to get
 better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely get
 significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing.

 DAVOmas
 In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with Lehman
 with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a fixed
 rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008,
 Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from 6.37%
 (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman shares
 in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has divested
 the shares.

 Intikeramik
 Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially
 planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to
 disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah
 Indonesia Finance (ALIF).

 Gajah Tunggal
 Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah Tunggal.
 Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes issued
 by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia

2008-09-25 Terurut Topik Maneh Lobateing
klo melihat skala penetrasi bisnis Lehman , ada kemungkinan MacQ jug terkena, 
masalah nya seberapa besar ? signifikan ato tidak ?
klo bank lokal, baru BNI yg melaporkan adany exposure akibat kolapsnya Lehman. 
sedangkan utk bank asing yg beroperasi di Indo, HAMPIR SEMUANYA YA (citi, scb, 
hsbc)




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