Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers...(Lucu Ya)
apa lagi kite ye, gegegege --- Pada Sel, 16/9/08, dario kurniawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: Dari: dario kurniawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers...(Lucu Ya) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 16 September, 2008, 8:32 AM Saya kadang bingung nyikapin orang2 analis sekelas Merryl Linch, Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan, dsb yang notabene orang2 yang analisanya didengar market sedunia, tapi kenyataannya perusahaan mereka malah bangkrut, analisa tempat lain jago tapi analisa diri sendiri gak becus...LOL. .. dario --- Pada Sel, 16/9/08, Lindt menulis: Dari: Lindt Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Selasa, 16 September, 2008, 7:14 AM Transaksi repo kyk nya ya Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: Hanif Mantiq Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:56:58 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers... *buat yang suka fundamental analyst, Apakah kebangkrutan lehman bisa didapat dari indikasi laporan keuangan 5 tahun terakhir, silahkan cek annual report tahun 2007 revenue growth terus, net income growth terus, shareholders equity growth terus selama 5 tahun terakhir. Gila yah bisa menyembunyikan kebusukan sedemikian rapinya http://www.lehman. com/annual/ 2007/fin_ highlights/ index.htm Apakah kualitas lehman buruk di mata para pelaku market? tidak juga bahkan lehman dapat penghargaan sebagai investment banking yang top di tahun 2007, memang kalo lagi masalah harus banyak melakukan pencitraan diri yah, bener juga kata temen orang yang habis habisan melakukan promo yah mungkin karena memang kurang baik jadi harus dipromosikan terus. Throughout 2007, we made significant progress in executing our growth and diversification strategy — balanced investments across regions, segments and products. For the fifth consecutive year, Lehman Brothers ranked #1 in Institutional Investor's U.S. equity research poll in 2007. We are developing a tradition of firsts: no other firm has achieved a #1 ranking in both Equity and Fixed Income research in the same year, and we have now done it five years running. Apa yang dapat dijadikan pelajaran untuk mengindikasikan kebangkrutan lehman? sejarah didapat dari wikipedia yang menunjukan fase awal kehancuran lehman dimulai dari subprime mortgage 1. Subprime mortgage crisis In August 2007, the firm closed its subprime lender, BNC Mortgage, eliminating 1,200 positions in 23 locations, and took an after-tax charge of $25 million and a $27-million reduction in goodwill. Lehman said that poor market conditions in the mortgage space "necessitated a substantial reduction in its resources and capacity in the subprime space". [31] In 2008, Lehman faced an unprecedented loss to the continuing subprime mortgage crisis. Lehman's loss was apparently a result of having held on to large positions in subprime and other lower-rated mortgage tranches when securitizing the underlying mortgages; whether Lehman did this because it was simply unable to sell the lower-rated bonds, or made a conscious decision to hold them, is unclear. In any event, huge losses accrued in lower-rated mortgage-backed securities throughout 2008. In the second fiscal quarter, Lehman reported losses of $2.8 billion and was forced to sell off $6 billion in assets.[32] In the first half of 2008 alone, Lehman stock lost 73% of its value as the credit market continued to tighten.[32] In August 2008, Lehman reported that it intended to release 6% of its work force, 1,500 people, just ahead of its third- quarter-reporting deadline in September.[32] On August 22, 2008, shares in Lehman closed up 5% (16% for the week) on reports that the state-controlled Korea Development Bank was considering buying the bank. [33] Most of those gains were quickly eroded as news came in that Korea Development Bank was "facing difficulties pleasing regulators and attracting partners for the deal."[34] It culminated on September 9, when its shares plunged 44.95% to $7.79, after it was reported that the state-run South Korean firm had put talks on hold.[35] Investor confidence continued to erode as Lehman's stock lost roughly half its value and pushed the S&P 500 down 3.4% on September 9. The Dow Jones lost 300 points the same day on investors' concerns about the security of the bank.[36] The U.S. government did not announce any plans to assist with any possible financial crisis that emerged at Lehman.[37] On September 10, 2008, Lehman announced a loss of $3.9 billion and their intent to sell off a majority stake in their investment-manageme nt business, which includes Neuberger Berman.[38][ 39] The stock slid 7 percent that day.[39][40] Lehman, after earlier rejecting questions on
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers...(Lucu Ya)
too greedy, sama spt kita lah, too greedy ke saham tambang...he3x...siap2x great depression On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:32 AM, dario kurniawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Saya kadang bingung nyikapin orang2 analis sekelas Merryl Linch, Lehman > Brothers, JP Morgan, dsb yang notabene orang2 yang analisanya didengar > market sedunia, tapi kenyataannya perusahaan mereka malah bangkrut, analisa > tempat lain jago tapi analisa diri sendiri gak becus...LOL... > > dario > > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers...(Lucu Ya)
salah satu contoh kalo perusahaan yang tidak didasari kejujuran ya seperti ini. semua dianggap sah sah saja. skrg liat apa kata dunia?? (tiru tiru mode) 2008/9/16 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , > dario kurniawan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Saya kadang bingung nyikapin orang2 analis sekelas Merryl Linch, > Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan, dsb yang notabene orang2 yang analisanya > didengar market sedunia, tapi kenyataannya perusahaan mereka malah > bangkrut, analisa tempat lain jago tapi analisa diri sendiri gak > becus...LOL... > > > > dario > > > > Simpel aja, semua manusia bisa salah > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers...(Lucu Ya)
Saya kadang bingung nyikapin orang2 analis sekelas Merryl Linch, Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan, dsb yang notabene orang2 yang analisanya didengar market sedunia, tapi kenyataannya perusahaan mereka malah bangkrut, analisa tempat lain jago tapi analisa diri sendiri gak becus...LOL... dario --- Pada Sel, 16/9/08, Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: Dari: Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 16 September, 2008, 7:14 AM Transaksi repo kyk nya ya Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: Hanif Mantiq Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:56:58 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lehman brothers... *buat yang suka fundamental analyst, Apakah kebangkrutan lehman bisa didapat dari indikasi laporan keuangan 5 tahun terakhir, silahkan cek annual report tahun 2007 revenue growth terus, net income growth terus, shareholders equity growth terus selama 5 tahun terakhir. Gila yah bisa menyembunyikan kebusukan sedemikian rapinya http://www.lehman. com/annual/ 2007/fin_ highlights/ index.htm Apakah kualitas lehman buruk di mata para pelaku market? tidak juga bahkan lehman dapat penghargaan sebagai investment banking yang top di tahun 2007, memang kalo lagi masalah harus banyak melakukan pencitraan diri yah, bener juga kata temen orang yang habis habisan melakukan promo yah mungkin karena memang kurang baik jadi harus dipromosikan terus. Throughout 2007, we made significant progress in executing our growth and diversification strategy — balanced investments across regions, segments and products. For the fifth consecutive year, Lehman Brothers ranked #1 in Institutional Investor's U.S. equity research poll in 2007. We are developing a tradition of firsts: no other firm has achieved a #1 ranking in both Equity and Fixed Income research in the same year, and we have now done it five years running. Apa yang dapat dijadikan pelajaran untuk mengindikasikan kebangkrutan lehman? sejarah didapat dari wikipedia yang menunjukan fase awal kehancuran lehman dimulai dari subprime mortgage 1. Subprime mortgage crisis In August 2007, the firm closed its subprime lender, BNC Mortgage, eliminating 1,200 positions in 23 locations, and took an after-tax charge of $25 million and a $27-million reduction in goodwill. Lehman said that poor market conditions in the mortgage space "necessitated a substantial reduction in its resources and capacity in the subprime space". [31] In 2008, Lehman faced an unprecedented loss to the continuing subprime mortgage crisis. Lehman's loss was apparently a result of having held on to large positions in subprime and other lower-rated mortgage tranches when securitizing the underlying mortgages; whether Lehman did this because it was simply unable to sell the lower-rated bonds, or made a conscious decision to hold them, is unclear. In any event, huge losses accrued in lower-rated mortgage-backed securities throughout 2008. In the second fiscal quarter, Lehman reported losses of $2.8 billion and was forced to sell off $6 billion in assets.[32] In the first half of 2008 alone, Lehman stock lost 73% of its value as the credit market continued to tighten.[32] In August 2008, Lehman reported that it intended to release 6% of its work force, 1,500 people, just ahead of its third- quarter-reporting deadline in September.[32] On August 22, 2008, shares in Lehman closed up 5% (16% for the week) on reports that the state-controlled Korea Development Bank was considering buying the bank. [33] Most of those gains were quickly eroded as news came in that Korea Development Bank was "facing difficulties pleasing regulators and attracting partners for the deal."[34] It culminated on September 9, when its shares plunged 44.95% to $7.79, after it was reported that the state-run South Korean firm had put talks on hold.[35] Investor confidence continued to erode as Lehman's stock lost roughly half its value and pushed the S&P 500 down 3.4% on September 9. The Dow Jones lost 300 points the same day on investors' concerns about the security of the bank.[36] The U.S. government did not announce any plans to assist with any possible financial crisis that emerged at Lehman.[37] On September 10, 2008, Lehman announced a loss of $3.9 billion and their intent to sell off a majority stake in their investment-manageme nt business, which includes Neuberger Berman.[38][ 39] The stock slid 7 percent that day.[39][40] Lehman, after earlier rejecting questions on the sale of the company, was reportedly searching for a buyer as its stock price dropped another 40 percent on September 11, 2008.[40] 2. Bankruptcy On September 13, 2008, Timothy F. Geithner, the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York called a meeting on the future of Lehman, which included the possibility of an em
