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FYI Barclay Bank kalau bangkrut bagaimana mungkin…. Katanya mau beli ABNAMRO ….? _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laksono dwighty Sent: 31 Mei 2007 12:03 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RISET INCO FROM BK You mean barclays (with s ) pak not not barclay bank...gak ada di company code tuh... bangkrut waaa. hehehehe-the largest bank in U.K. bangkrut...? kalau iya sudah rontoklah sistem perbankan dunia ini... dibawah ada story mengenai barclays-mudah2an bahasa inggrisnya gak terlalu sulit buat dipahami... salam †Barclays Asks Court To Dismiss Suit Stemming From SEC Probe † +Barclays+ PLC (BCS) says a former employee accusing the bank of turning a blind eye to the questionable trading practices of its distressed-investin-g desk wasn't entirely upfront about his own role in the affair, which has spurred a federal securities investigation. The U.K. bank is asking a U.S. district court in New York to throw out a lawsuit filed by Michael Econn, a former investment analyst who worked for +Barclays+ Capital's debt-trading desk. Econn claims he was punished for refusing to cover up the desk's trading of +bankrupt+-company debt while in possession of confidential information gained by sitting on bankruptcy creditor committees. Econn, who left +Barclays+ in 2004, said his compensation was cut and he was forced to cover his own legal fees after the bank found out he had revealed information about the desk's trading activities during a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation begun in 2004. +Barclays+, however, said it stopped paying Econn's legal fees during the SEC probe because he withheld from it crucial information about the debt-trading practices. In April 2006, +Barclays+ learned that during the two years of the investigation Econn had concealed from +Barclays+ important information about efforts of his co-workers to obstruct internal and external investigations,- the bank said. Econn only revealed that information when compelled to testify pursuant to SEC subpoena. +Barclays+ called Econn's claim that he's entitled to unpaid bonuses and equity awards frivolous. An attorney for Econn wasn't available to comment Friday afternoon. The bank said Econn himself failed to inform its legal department, compliance department or his supervisor on the distressed-trading desk that he had signed a form specifically prohibiting transactions in the debt of Galey Lord after joining the creditors committee in the company's Chapter 11 bankruptcy case. After the official creditors committee formation meeting, the desk continued to trade in Galey Lord debt, +Barclays+ said. Econn said the distressed-trading desk, which held and traded the debt of companies in or approaching bankruptcy, began joining the committees that represent unsecured creditors in Chapter 11 cases in 2002. Members of creditors committees receive non-public information and are often barred from buying or selling a company's debt. Econn claims the +Barclays+ desk kept trading the debt even after getting a seat on such committees, explaining that the trades were allowed if the counterparty signed a big boy letter acknowledging that +Barclays+ might have access to non-public information. In the March lawsuit, Econn said he made it clear that he would not participate in a cover-up. +Barclays+, in turn, chose to impose penalties on Econn and eventually force him to leave, breaching its compensation obligations.- The trading activity caught the eye of the SEC in April 2004, about a year after the Galey Lord creditors committee sought the distressed desk's records on suspicion that the desk had traded the textile company's debt in violation of the agreement Econn signed. The SEC has expressed concern that investment firms, notably hedge funds, have misrepresented the extent of their holdings to get on a +bankrupt+ company's creditors committee and have allowed confidential information obtained by sitting on such a committee to pass on to its traders. The agency took notice when Blue River Capital LLC founder Van Greenfield was accused of lying to get on the creditors committee in WorldCom Inc.'s Chapter 11 case. Greenfield, who paid a $150,000 fine to settle the charges in November 2005, was also accused of allowing insider information he obtained from the committee to pass to his firm's traders. After the inquiry from the Galey Lord committee, +Barclays+ tapped law firm Allen Overy to conduct its own inquiry. The bank said it actively encouraged cooperation with the SEC investigation. James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: udah dong uncle suruh bozz jual aja portfolionya daripada kena margin call. Saya lupa tuh ada FUND MANAGER yang pintar banget bikin Barclay Bank bangkrut more than the bank profit margin. Ingat FUND MANAGER juga manusia yang bisa buat salah. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RISET INCO FROM BK
cincailah ama teman ... hehheh ... kayaknya bukan ini deh, sayang udah mulai pikun setahu saya bank tersebut adalah bank terbesar dan tertua di Inggris cuma lupa, rugi karena spekulasi pergerakan Yen vs USD? Waduh2 benar2 lupa nih. Anyway, I prefer safe trader than to much speculation. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean barclays (with s ) pak not not barclay bank...gak ada di company code tuh... bangkrut waaa. hehehehethe largest bank in U.K. bangkrut...? kalau iya sudah rontoklah sistem perbankan dunia ini... dibawah ada story mengenai barclaysmudah2an bahasa inggrisnya gak terlalu sulit buat dipahami... salam †Barclays Asks Court To Dismiss Suit Stemming From SEC Probe † +Barclays+ PLC (BCS) says a former employee accusing the bank of turning a blind eye to the questionable trading practices of its distressed-investing desk wasn't entirely upfront about his own role in the affair, which has spurred a federal securities investigation. The U.K. bank is asking a U.S. district court in New York to throw out a lawsuit filed by Michael Econn, a former investment analyst who worked for +Barclays+ Capital's debt-trading desk. Econn claims he was punished for refusing to cover up the desk's trading of +bankrupt+-company debt while in possession of confidential information gained by sitting on bankruptcy creditor committees. Econn, who left +Barclays+ in 2004, said his compensation was cut and he was forced to cover his own legal fees after the bank found out he had revealed information about the desk's trading activities during a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation begun in 2004. +Barclays+, however, said it stopped paying Econn's legal fees during the SEC probe because he withheld from it crucial information about the debt-trading practices. In April 2006, +Barclays+ learned that during the two years of the investigation Econn had concealed from +Barclays+ important information about efforts of his co-workers to obstruct internal and external investigations, the bank said. Econn only revealed that information when compelled to testify pursuant to SEC subpoena. +Barclays+ called Econn's claim that he's entitled to unpaid bonuses and equity awards frivolous. An attorney for Econn wasn't available to comment Friday afternoon. The bank said Econn himself failed to inform its legal department, compliance department or his supervisor on the distressed-trading desk that he had signed a form specifically prohibiting transactions in the debt of Galey Lord after joining the creditors committee in the company's Chapter 11 bankruptcy case. After the official creditors committee formation meeting, the desk continued to trade in Galey Lord debt, +Barclays+ said. Econn said the distressed-trading desk, which held and traded the debt of companies in or approaching bankruptcy, began joining the committees that represent unsecured creditors in Chapter 11 cases in 2002. Members of creditors committees receive non-public information and are often barred from buying or selling a company's debt. Econn claims the +Barclays+ desk kept trading the debt even after getting a seat on such committees, explaining that the trades were allowed if the counterparty signed a big boy letter acknowledging that +Barclays+ might have access to non-public information. In the March lawsuit, Econn said he made it clear that he would not participate in a cover-up. +Barclays+, in turn, chose to impose penalties on Econn and eventually force him to leave, breaching its compensation obligations. The trading activity caught the eye of the SEC in April 2004, about a year after the Galey Lord creditors committee sought the distressed desk's records on suspicion that the desk had traded the textile company's debt in violation of the agreement Econn signed. The SEC has expressed concern that investment firms, notably hedge funds, have misrepresented the extent of their holdings to get on a +bankrupt+ company's creditors committee and have allowed confidential information obtained by sitting on such a committee to pass on to its traders. The agency took notice when Blue River Capital LLC founder Van Greenfield was accused of lying to get on the creditors committee in WorldCom Inc.'s Chapter 11 case. Greenfield, who paid a $150,000 fine to settle the charges in November 2005, was also accused of allowing insider information he obtained from the committee to pass to his firm's traders. After the inquiry from the Galey Lord committee, +Barclays+ tapped law firm Allen Overy to conduct its own inquiry. The bank said it actively encouraged cooperation with the SEC investigation. *James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: udah dong uncle suruh bozz jual aja portfolionya daripada kena margin call. Saya lupa tuh ada FUND MANAGER yang pintar banget bikin Barclay Bank bangkrut more than the bank profit margin. Ingat FUND MANAGER juga manusia yang bisa buat salah. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL
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Ings Barring? Tradernya Nick siapa ya...Nick gleason? nick leason? hehe lupa juga. Bank Inggris tertua tapi hancur gara2 spekulasi dia. Thn 90-an kan pak. James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cincailah ama teman ... hehheh ... kayaknya bukan ini deh, sayang udah mulai pikun setahu saya bank tersebut adalah bank terbesar dan tertua di Inggris cuma lupa, rugi karena spekulasi pergerakan Yen vs USD? Waduh2 benar2 lupa nih. Anyway, I prefer safe trader than to much speculation. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean barclays (with s ) pak not not barclay bank...gak ada di company code tuh... bangkrut waaa. hehehehethe largest bank in U.K. bangkrut...? kalau iya sudah rontoklah sistem perbankan dunia ini... dibawah ada story mengenai barclaysmudah2an bahasa inggrisnya gak terlalu sulit buat dipahami... salam Barclays Asks Court To Dismiss Suit Stemming From SEC Probe +Barclays+ PLC (BCS) says a former employee accusing the bank of turning a blind eye to the questionable trading practices of its distressed-investing desk wasn't entirely upfront about his own role in the affair, which has spurred a federal securities investigation. The U.K. bank is asking a U.S. district court in New York to throw out a lawsuit filed by Michael Econn, a former investment analyst who worked for +Barclays+ Capital's debt-trading desk. Econn claims he was punished for refusing to cover up the desk's trading of +bankrupt+-company debt while in possession of confidential information gained by sitting on bankruptcy creditor committees. Econn, who left +Barclays+ in 2004, said his compensation was cut and he was forced to cover his own legal fees after the bank found out he had revealed information about the desk's trading activities during a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation begun in 2004. +Barclays+, however, said it stopped paying Econn's legal fees during the SEC probe because he withheld from it crucial information about the debt-trading practices. In April 2006, +Barclays+ learned that during the two years of the investigation Econn had concealed from +Barclays+ important information about efforts of his co-workers to obstruct internal and external investigations, the bank said. Econn only revealed that information when compelled to testify pursuant to SEC subpoena. +Barclays+ called Econn's claim that he's entitled to unpaid bonuses and equity awards frivolous. An attorney for Econn wasn't available to comment Friday afternoon. The bank said Econn himself failed to inform its legal department, compliance department or his supervisor on the distressed-trading desk that he had signed a form specifically prohibiting transactions in the debt of Galey Lord after joining the creditors committee in the company's Chapter 11 bankruptcy case. After the official creditors committee formation meeting, the desk continued to trade in Galey Lord debt, +Barclays+ said. Econn said the distressed-trading desk, which held and traded the debt of companies in or approaching bankruptcy, began joining the committees that represent unsecured creditors in Chapter 11 cases in 2002. Members of creditors committees receive non-public information and are often barred from buying or selling a company's debt. Econn claims the +Barclays+ desk kept trading the debt even after getting a seat on such committees, explaining that the trades were allowed if the counterparty signed a big boy letter acknowledging that +Barclays+ might have access to non-public information. In the March lawsuit, Econn said he made it clear that he would not participate in a cover-up. +Barclays+, in turn, chose to impose penalties on Econn and eventually force him to leave, breaching its compensation obligations. The trading activity caught the eye of the SEC in April 2004, about a year after the Galey Lord creditors committee sought the distressed desk's records on suspicion that the desk had traded the textile company's debt in violation of the agreement Econn signed. The SEC has expressed concern that investment firms, notably hedge funds, have misrepresented the extent of their holdings to get on a +bankrupt+ company's creditors committee and have allowed confidential information obtained by sitting on such a committee to pass on to its traders. The agency took notice when Blue River Capital LLC founder Van Greenfield was accused of lying to get on the creditors committee in WorldCom Inc.'s Chapter 11 case. Greenfield, who paid a $150,000 fine to settle the charges in November 2005, was also accused of allowing insider information he obtained from the committee to pass to his firm's traders. After the inquiry from the Galey Lord committee, +Barclays+ tapped law firm Allen Overy to conduct its own inquiry. The bank said it actively encouraged cooperation with the
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Ings Barring? Tradernya Nick siapa ya...Nick gleason? nick leason? hehe lupa juga. Bank Inggris tertua tapi hancur gara2 spekulasi dia. Thn 90-an kan pak. James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cincailah ama teman ... hehheh ... kayaknya bukan ini deh, sayang udah mulai pikun setahu saya bank tersebut adalah bank terbesar dan tertua di Inggris cuma lupa, rugi karena spekulasi pergerakan Yen vs USD? Waduh2 benar2 lupa nih. Anyway, I prefer safe trader than to much speculation. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean barclays (with s ) pak not not barclay bank...gak ada di company code tuh... bangkrut waaa. hehehehethe largest bank in U.K. bangkrut...? kalau iya sudah rontoklah sistem perbankan dunia ini... dibawah ada story mengenai barclaysmudah2an bahasa inggrisnya gak terlalu sulit buat dipahami... salam Barclays Asks Court To Dismiss Suit Stemming From SEC Probe +Barclays+ PLC (BCS) says a former employee accusing the bank of turning a blind eye to the questionable trading practices of its distressed-investing desk wasn't entirely upfront about his own role in the affair, which has spurred a federal securities investigation. The U.K. bank is asking a U.S. district court in New York to throw out a lawsuit filed by Michael Econn, a former investment analyst who worked for +Barclays+ Capital's debt-trading desk. Econn claims he was punished for refusing to cover up the desk's trading of +bankrupt+-company debt while in possession of confidential information gained by sitting on bankruptcy creditor committees. Econn, who left +Barclays+ in 2004, said his compensation was cut and he was forced to cover his own legal fees after the bank found out he had revealed information about the desk's trading activities during a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation begun in 2004. +Barclays+, however, said it stopped paying Econn's legal fees during the SEC probe because he withheld from it crucial information about the debt-trading practices. In April 2006, +Barclays+ learned that during the two years of the investigation Econn had concealed from +Barclays+ important information about efforts of his co-workers to obstruct internal and external investigations, the bank said. Econn only revealed that information when compelled to testify pursuant to SEC subpoena. +Barclays+ called Econn's claim that he's entitled to unpaid bonuses and equity awards frivolous. An attorney for Econn wasn't available to comment Friday afternoon. The bank said Econn himself failed to inform its legal department, compliance department or his supervisor on the distressed-trading desk that he had signed a form specifically prohibiting transactions in the debt of Galey Lord after joining the creditors committee in the company's Chapter 11 bankruptcy case. After the official creditors committee formation meeting, the desk continued to trade in Galey Lord debt, +Barclays+ said. Econn said the distressed-trading desk, which held and traded the debt of companies in or approaching bankruptcy, began joining the committees that represent unsecured creditors in Chapter 11 cases in 2002. Members of creditors committees receive non-public information and are often barred from buying or selling a company's debt. Econn claims the +Barclays+ desk kept trading the debt even after getting a seat on such committees, explaining that the trades were allowed if the counterparty signed a big boy letter acknowledging that +Barclays+ might have access to non-public information. In the March lawsuit, Econn said he made it clear that he would not participate in a cover-up. +Barclays+, in turn, chose to impose penalties on Econn and eventually force him to leave, breaching its compensation obligations. The trading activity caught the eye of the SEC in April 2004, about a year after the Galey Lord creditors committee sought the distressed desk's records on suspicion that the desk had traded the textile company's debt in violation of the agreement Econn signed. The SEC has expressed concern that investment firms, notably hedge funds, have misrepresented the extent of their holdings to get on a +bankrupt+ company's creditors committee and have allowed confidential information obtained by sitting on such a committee to pass on to its traders. The agency took notice when Blue River Capital LLC founder Van Greenfield was accused of lying to get on the creditors committee in WorldCom Inc.'s Chapter 11 case. Greenfield, who paid a $150,000 fine to settle the charges in November 2005, was also accused of allowing insider information he obtained from the committee to pass to his firm's traders. After the inquiry from the Galey Lord committee, +Barclays+ tapped law firm Allen Overy to conduct its own inquiry. The bank said it actively encouraged cooperation with the
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were due to his financial gambling, as he placed his trades based upon his emotions rather than by taking calculated risks. After the collapse of Barings, a worldwide outrage ensued, decrying the use of derivatives. The truth, however, is that derivatives are only as dangerous as the hands they are placed in. In this case, Nick Leeson was reckless and dishonest. Derivatives can be tremendously useful if used for hedging and controlling risk or even careful trading. After a series of lies, cover ups and falsified documents, Leeson and his wife fled Singapore for Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. By then, Barings' senior management had discovered Nick Leeson's elaborate scheme. The total damage suffered by Barings was £827 million, or $1.4 billion. In February 1995, England's oldest, most established bank was unable to meet SIMEX's margin call, and was declared bankrupt. Leeson and his wife were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany on March 3 rd , 1995. That same day, the Dutch bank, ING, purchased Barings for a mere £1 and assumed all of its liabilities (eRisk). Nick Leeson was placed on trial in Singapore and was convicted of fraud. He was sentenced to six and a half years in a Singaporean prison, where he contracted cancer (Risk Glossary). He survived his cancer, and while imprisoned, wrote an autobiography called Rogue Trader, detailing his role in the Barings scandal. Rogue Trader was eventually made into a movie of the same name. Nick Leeson was released from prison in July 1999 for good behavior. ... - Original Message - From: laksono dwighty To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RISET INCO FROM BK You mean barclays (with s ) pak not not barclay bank...gak ada di company code tuh... bangkrut waaa. hehehehethe largest bank in U.K. bangkrut...? kalau iya sudah rontoklah sistem perbankan dunia ini... dibawah ada story mengenai barclaysmudah2an bahasa inggrisnya gak terlalu sulit buat dipahami... salam ?Barclays Asks Court To Dismiss Suit Stemming From SEC Probe ? +Barclays+ PLC (BCS) says a former employee accusing the bank of turning a blind eye to the questionable trading practices of its distressed-investing desk wasn't entirely upfront about his own role in the affair, which has spurred a federal securities investigation. The U.K. bank is asking a U.S. district court in New York to throw out a lawsuit filed by Michael Econn, a former investment analyst who worked for +Barclays+ Capital's debt-trading desk. Econn claims he was punished for refusing to cover up the desk's trading of +bankrupt+-company debt while in possession of confidential information gained by sitting on bankruptcy creditor committees. Econn, who left +Barclays+ in 2004, said his compensation was cut and he was forced to cover his own legal fees after the bank found out he had revealed information about the desk's trading activities during a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation begun in 2004. +Barclays+, however, said it stopped paying Econn's legal fees during the SEC probe because he withheld from it crucial information about the debt-trading practices. In April 2006, +Barclays+ learned that during the two years of the investigation Econn had concealed from +Barclays+ important information about efforts of his co-workers to obstruct internal and external investigations, the bank said. Econn only revealed that information when compelled to testify pursuant to SEC subpoena. +Barclays+ called Econn's claim that he's entitled to unpaid bonuses and equity awards frivolous. An attorney for Econn wasn't available to comment Friday afternoon. The bank said Econn himself failed to inform its legal department, compliance department or his supervisor on the distressed-trading desk that he had signed a form specifically prohibiting transactions in the debt of Galey Lord after joining the creditors committee in the company's Chapter 11 bankruptcy case. After the official creditors committee formation meeting, the desk continued to trade in Galey Lord debt, +Barclays+ said. Econn said the distressed-trading desk, which held and traded the debt of companies in or approaching bankruptcy, began joining the committees that represent unsecured creditors in Chapter 11 cases in 2002. Members of creditors committees receive non-public information and are often barred from buying or selling a company's debt. Econn claims the +Barclays+ desk kept trading the debt even after getting a seat on such committees, explaining that the trades were allowed if the counterparty signed a big boy letter acknowledging that +Barclays+ might have access to non-public information. In the March lawsuit, Econn said he made it clear that he would not participate in a cover-up. +Barclays+, in turn, chose to impose penalties on Econn and eventually force him
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Murah meriah. Borong ah hari ini. Reward lebih lebih besar dari Risk. Jangan lupa Money Managementnya. Dilarang ikutan bagi yang jantungnya tidak kuat. hihihihi.. On 5/31/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he..he... kalau yakin murah sikat aja... banyak yang mau keluar euy.. lagi tungguin panic selling.. siapa tahu bisa dapat 40.000 ha..hatarget ngak jauh-jauh...51.000 aja.. emang cuman segitu harganya On 5/31/07, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards
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Bagus lah, murah gw beli lagi. Sakit deh kalau tiap hari ngeliatin dan Inco toh bukan pop and mom store yg hari dagang nikel besok jual perkedel. Bukan ngebelain Inco tapi be realistic aja. Utk trading emang ga bagus sekarang Inco.
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my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
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i am with u On 5/31/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Murah meriah. Borong ah hari ini. Reward lebih lebih besar dari Risk. Jangan lupa Money Managementnya. Dilarang ikutan bagi yang jantungnya tidak kuat. hihihihi.. On 5/31/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he..he... kalau yakin murah sikat aja... banyak yang mau keluar euy.. lagi tungguin panic selling.. siapa tahu bisa dapat 40.000 ha..hatarget ngak jauh-jauh...51.000 aja.. emang cuman segitu harganya On 5/31/07, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards
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saya ngeSHORT hanya setengah LOT saja harga udah jatuh dari 66700, kalu ngeSHORT 2-3 lot kasihan sama yang lain ntar harga jadi 40rb ha just kidding On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak *Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards -- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotelshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47094/*http://farechase.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFicDJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-with Yahoo! FareChase.
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gue nggak naked short aja turun, cuma gudang jadi kinclong ama lebih lega ... mau ganti ama Ferrari aja nggak tertarik ama Bentley. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak *Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards -- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotelshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47094/*http://farechase.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFicDJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-with Yahoo! FareChase.
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kok posisi beli...? bukannya indek mo ke 1850..? hasil kongkow2 kemaren..? James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gue nggak naked short aja turun, cuma gudang jadi kinclong ama lebih lega ... mau ganti ama Ferrari aja nggak tertarik ama Bentley. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
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Selamat pagi semuanya... Salam Perkenalan dari saya, Reiza Afriansyah. Mau tanya saham CTTH, apa ada yang punya info? kenapa naik cukup signifikan kemarin... Terima kasih. - Original Message - From: laksono dwighty To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RISET INCO FROM BK kok posisi beli...? bukannya indek mo ke 1850..? hasil kongkow2 kemaren..? James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gue nggak naked short aja turun, cuma gudang jadi kinclong ama lebih lega ... mau ganti ama Ferrari aja nggak tertarik ama Bentley. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards -- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. -- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. The information contained in this communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Unless otherwise specifically stated by the sender, any documents or views presented are solely those of the sender and do not constitute official documents or views of PT Bank Niaga Tbk. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by responding to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then delete it from your system. PT Bank Niaga Tbk is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt.
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oh baru ngerti maksud pak james tentang FERRARI dan BENTLEY kalau udah di jalan TOL, FERRARI ngebut LUAR BIASA ini lagi PERANG bandar di MILLIS he. regards On 5/31/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hahahah ... emang bilang 1850 langsung terjun yah boss, perlu waktu dong sama seperti bilang ke 2600 juga perlu waktu. Selama itu yah trading dong masak melongo aja market naik turun. Terus apa saya bilang beli??? Ferrari paling disukai karena warnanya yang merah menantang ... Bentley biru memang menarik tapi merah lebih seksi dan kebut On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kok posisi beli...? bukannya indek mo ke 1850..? hasil kongkow2 kemaren..? *James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com* wrote: gue nggak naked short aja turun, cuma gudang jadi kinclong ama lebih lega ... mau ganti ama Ferrari aja nggak tertarik ama Bentley. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak *Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards -- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotelshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47094/*http://farechase.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFicDJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-with Yahoo! FareChase. -- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48246/*http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/;_ylc=X3oDMTE5cDF2bXZzBF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDZ3JlZW4tY2VudGVy
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nggak jelas. hehehehe ngomongnya bentley and ferrari...padahal cuma punya innova tapi lucu juga... never in this world that a fund manager would have their loss more than their profit margin territory within a month...? 1850..? bisa aja sih...kalau semua fund manager buta... capek deh... James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hahahah ... emang bilang 1850 langsung terjun yah boss, perlu waktu dong sama seperti bilang ke 2600 juga perlu waktu. Selama itu yah trading dong masak melongo aja market naik turun. Terus apa saya bilang beli??? Ferrari paling disukai karena warnanya yang merah menantang ... Bentley biru memang menarik tapi merah lebih seksi dan kebut On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kok posisi beli...? bukannya indek mo ke 1850..? hasil kongkow2 kemaren..? James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote: gue nggak naked short aja turun, cuma gudang jadi kinclong ama lebih lega ... mau ganti ama Ferrari aja nggak tertarik ama Bentley. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.
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udah ah uncle Schubert ... anak kecil juga ngerti tuh apa bedanya BENTLEY ama FERRARI ... qiqiqiiq On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nggak jelas. hehehehe ngomongnya bentley and ferrari...padahal cuma punya innova tapi lucu juga... never in this world that a fund manager would have their loss more than their profit margin territory within a month...? 1850..? bisa aja sih...kalau semua fund manager buta... capek deh... *James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: hahahah ... emang bilang 1850 langsung terjun yah boss, perlu waktu dong sama seperti bilang ke 2600 juga perlu waktu. Selama itu yah trading dong masak melongo aja market naik turun. Terus apa saya bilang beli??? Ferrari paling disukai karena warnanya yang merah menantang ... Bentley biru memang menarik tapi merah lebih seksi dan kebut On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kok posisi beli...? bukannya indek mo ke 1850..? hasil kongkow2 kemaren..? *James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com* wrote: gue nggak naked short aja turun, cuma gudang jadi kinclong ama lebih lega ... mau ganti ama Ferrari aja nggak tertarik ama Bentley. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest support for you pak. biasanya yang ngomong negative dah gak punya barang and kalaupun ngeshort paling banter 2 lot atau 3 lot yang penting ngomongnya gede pak *Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: dah gw baca. ternyata tp naik dari 36500 jadi 44500. rating netral, rekomen buy buat short term. kalo pake skenario 1 tp 61721. pake skenario 2 tp 98179. ternyata di milis banyak plintiran heheheh. asik jg gw ngeliat banyak yg dah gak punya barang tapi rajin banget komen negatif. artinya masih ngarepin dapet barang murah kan heheh. masih banyak yg cinta mining euy. harap2 cemas hahahahah ayo donk jgn omdo. ngeshort donk. biar gw pungut di bawah neh. kalo emang bandar dibikin turun lagi donk. 45000 gicu. kalo cuma ritel kayak gw mending diem aja deh. gak epek soalnya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TARGET 44500 selamat membaca regards -- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotelshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47094/*http://farechase.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFicDJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-with Yahoo! FareChase. -- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48246/*http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/;_ylc=X3oDMTE5cDF2bXZzBF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDZ3JlZW4tY2VudGVy -- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48518/*http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/;_ylc=X3oDMTE3NWsyMDd2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDY2FyLWZpbmRlcg--+
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You mean barclays (with s ) pak not not barclay bank...gak ada di company code tuh... bangkrut waaa. hehehehethe largest bank in U.K. bangkrut...? kalau iya sudah rontoklah sistem perbankan dunia ini... dibawah ada story mengenai barclaysmudah2an bahasa inggrisnya gak terlalu sulit buat dipahami... salam Barclays Asks Court To Dismiss Suit Stemming From SEC Probe +Barclays+ PLC (BCS) says a former employee accusing the bank of turning a blind eye to the questionable trading practices of its distressed-investing desk wasn't entirely upfront about his own role in the affair, which has spurred a federal securities investigation. The U.K. bank is asking a U.S. district court in New York to throw out a lawsuit filed by Michael Econn, a former investment analyst who worked for +Barclays+ Capital's debt-trading desk. Econn claims he was punished for refusing to cover up the desk's trading of +bankrupt+-company debt while in possession of confidential information gained by sitting on bankruptcy creditor committees. Econn, who left +Barclays+ in 2004, said his compensation was cut and he was forced to cover his own legal fees after the bank found out he had revealed information about the desk's trading activities during a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation begun in 2004. +Barclays+, however, said it stopped paying Econn's legal fees during the SEC probe because he withheld from it crucial information about the debt-trading practices. In April 2006, +Barclays+ learned that during the two years of the investigation Econn had concealed from +Barclays+ important information about efforts of his co-workers to obstruct internal and external investigations, the bank said. Econn only revealed that information when compelled to testify pursuant to SEC subpoena. +Barclays+ called Econn's claim that he's entitled to unpaid bonuses and equity awards frivolous. An attorney for Econn wasn't available to comment Friday afternoon. The bank said Econn himself failed to inform its legal department, compliance department or his supervisor on the distressed-trading desk that he had signed a form specifically prohibiting transactions in the debt of Galey Lord after joining the creditors committee in the company's Chapter 11 bankruptcy case. After the official creditors committee formation meeting, the desk continued to trade in Galey Lord debt, +Barclays+ said. Econn said the distressed-trading desk, which held and traded the debt of companies in or approaching bankruptcy, began joining the committees that represent unsecured creditors in Chapter 11 cases in 2002. Members of creditors committees receive non-public information and are often barred from buying or selling a company's debt. Econn claims the +Barclays+ desk kept trading the debt even after getting a seat on such committees, explaining that the trades were allowed if the counterparty signed a big boy letter acknowledging that +Barclays+ might have access to non-public information. In the March lawsuit, Econn said he made it clear that he would not participate in a cover-up. +Barclays+, in turn, chose to impose penalties on Econn and eventually force him to leave, breaching its compensation obligations. The trading activity caught the eye of the SEC in April 2004, about a year after the Galey Lord creditors committee sought the distressed desk's records on suspicion that the desk had traded the textile company's debt in violation of the agreement Econn signed. The SEC has expressed concern that investment firms, notably hedge funds, have misrepresented the extent of their holdings to get on a +bankrupt+ company's creditors committee and have allowed confidential information obtained by sitting on such a committee to pass on to its traders. The agency took notice when Blue River Capital LLC founder Van Greenfield was accused of lying to get on the creditors committee in WorldCom Inc.'s Chapter 11 case. Greenfield, who paid a $150,000 fine to settle the charges in November 2005, was also accused of allowing insider information he obtained from the committee to pass to his firm's traders. After the inquiry from the Galey Lord committee, +Barclays+ tapped law firm Allen Overy to conduct its own inquiry. The bank said it actively encouraged cooperation with the SEC investigation. James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: udah dong uncle suruh bozz jual aja portfolionya daripada kena margin call. Saya lupa tuh ada FUND MANAGER yang pintar banget bikin Barclay Bank bangkrut more than the bank profit margin. Ingat FUND MANAGER juga manusia yang bisa buat salah. On 5/31/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nggak jelas. hehehehe ngomongnya bentley and ferrari...padahal cuma punya innova tapi lucu juga... never in this world that a fund manager would have their loss more than
