Re: [obsnw] Re: ONW Monthly Meeting - 29 June 2016 at 6pm

2016-06-30 Thread mail37404 
Re the fence along the railway line,
I believe it is PRASA property (or railways /Metro Rail use etc) and they are 
not likely to respond to our needs anytime soon... but what if some were to  
simply ‘informally’ fix it section by section (starting with the worst pieces) 
with some minor additional supports and tensile cable where required anchored 
appropriately and then as each section is made more secure, attach “flat wrap” 
barbed wire coil across the existing fence, where holes are, starting with the 
lower levels and then adding the appropriate height to make it secure. 
This should be relatively inexpensive if upgraded section by section without 
causing any problems. 
As each section is done, the unwanted creepers could be limited or trimmed off 
so the point raise by Stephen is taken  appropriately into account.

A few people issued with good gloves, pliers, a sledge hammer a few fence posts 
and rolls of strong wire can quickly ensure it gets repaired in no time. 
First by making the existing stable..in sections, then add flat wrap where 
needed and that should work as an interim measure to the worst parts until one 
day, a new fence can be done from scratch.. if PRASA or the equivalent 
eventually gets their act together. depending on advice received, Obs sends 
them the bill in the interim for essential work done?
We need to live long enough to see it happen and protect our children and 
animals plus stop the criminals in the short term.
Marc

From: stephen van der spuy 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:15 PM
To: Obs NW Chairman 
Cc: obsnw@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [obsnw] Re: ONW Monthly Meeting - 29 June 2016 at 6pm

Hi Everyone,  I did not attend last night s meeting.  On the agenda was the 
railway fence.  In this regard I wish to say that vegetation should not be 
grown up the fence as a solution.  I regularly use the Wrensch Road subway and 
I need visibility of the other side before entering the subway.  Vegetation on 
the fence would obscure my visibility placing me at risk because I would not 
know who I would be passing in the middle of the tunnel.   Furthermore, the 
vegetation would make yet another hiding place for criminals.   Also, the 
Police, OBSID Patrols, etc would not be able to see what is happening on the 
other side of the railway line if there was vegetation on the fence.  We need 
visibility.   Thanks, Stephen

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Obs NW Chairman  
wrote:

  Hello, 

  It's our monthly meeting this Wednesday evening at the Obs Community Center.

  Please find the agenda attached. 


  Please spread the word. New comers are especially welcome. We look forward to 
seeing you there.

  Thanks and regards,

  Steve

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Re: [obsnw] ONW monthly meeting postponed

2016-05-17 Thread mail37404 
Maybe everyone knows, but I cant find the details about the “woodstock CPF 
election meeting”?
A time and venue would help plus some kind of agenda about duration etc?
Marc


From: Steve Killick 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:12 PM
To: The Observatory Neighbourhood Watch 
Subject: [obsnw] ONW monthly meeting postponed

Please note that we have decided to postpone our monthly ONW meeting to next 
Wednesday eve to allow people to attend the woodstock CPF election meeting 
instead. 

This is a great opportunity for Obs to get good representation on the CPF 
committee. So please support  tommorow evening if you can. 

Thanks and regards, 
Seve

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Re: [obsnw] Noise from house parties

2016-02-14 Thread mail37404 
My understanding is that if a noise is disturbing you inside your home, you 
have grounds for complaint.
Henk is the expert on noise issues in Obs, having battled the difficulty of 
being affected by unreasonable loud neighbours for many years.

It is not easy to curtail completely but careful action does help!
He can be contacted via OCA.

It is true that on calling 'the noise police', there is a first warning they 
issue and then if it occurs again, a fine procedure is imposed as stated by 
James.
The struggle is that people are reluctant to call authorities and then fail 
to record the trail of abuse so when it comes to a formal hearing on an 
issue by authorities, there tends to be a lack of evidence, so the abuse 
continues.
There needs to be some support available so people do actually take action 
and set the protocol clear, that neighbours cant simply do what ever they 
like!
People have to limit their noise and sound proof their venues if they make 
noise.
Private parties can be very inconsiderate since they do not have a licence 
to protect and on hot nights keep all their windows and doors open. Party 
goers also tend to arrive and leave with loud music in their cars.


I know someone who resorted to heavy hosepipe spray into the windows of a 
next door house after midnight and at some of these noise polluting cars 
with open windows, in a desperate attempt to get them to grasp that not only 
sound travels across and over the boundary, but this may not be encouraged 
at this time of water restrictions! (Legal advice is also worth being 
consulted before reacting with this level of frustration!)


There needs to be a good code that when people plan a special event they 
should notify neighbours and even then the level of noise and the duration 
should be limited.


Regards,
Marc Turok


-Original Message- 
From: Anique van der Vlugt

Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 12:20 AM
To: obsnw@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [obsnw] Noise from house parties

The Metro Police asked that we rather call 021-596-1999 for noise
complaints.

Thanks, Anique

On 16/02/2015 15:27, James Cowley wrote:

Hi Jonah
OPS can be called but suspect they too can only ask the revelers to pipe
down 021 447 1066.
Woodstoclk SAPS can be requested and should be able to get the party to
cool down - 10111 or 442 3121 or vehicle Sector 1: 082 302 5525.
Metro Police is effeminately able to attend to the call but are often
thins stretched and can be very effective to give 1 st warning and
secondly a fine on the spot tel 021 480 7700.
James

On 15 February 2015 at 12:05, Jonah Sack > wrote:

I hope this is an acceptable topic for this forum.

In the last few days there have been a couple of very loud house
parties in Alfred Street. In both cases they didn't go on very late
- by 11pm they were nearly silent, in one case after I had asked
them to turn down the music. But leading up to that time they were
really unpleasantly noisy, even for someone living several houses
away. We have small children trying to sleep, as do many people in
this part of the neighbourhood.
What is the protocol in these cases? Do house parties, like the
nightclubs, need to keep their noise inside the property? Both of
these had their music systems out in the garden. Can we call OPS if
they don't respond to reasonable requests to turn it down?

Thanks

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