Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2024 OSGeo Oceania board objectives
I've apparently lost edit access to the document itself, so I'll mention it here. Be a central "official" voice to approach all levels of Govt for better access to Data for OSM mapping. Thanks Graeme On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 at 20:45, John Bryant via Oceania < oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Hi all, the OSGeo Oceania board is meeting this Friday 12 Jan, and one of > the agenda items is setting some objectives for 2024. > > There was some interesting input from the audience at FOSS4G SotM Oceania > in October, which helps guide this exercise, but we would love to get > further input from the community. What do you think we should focus on in > the coming year? And of course, what would you be willing to put your own > time and energy into? > > Here's what we've got so far (work in progress): > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0l_I15T-zm4LyLuwePq6ZfgS3OL9LEm > > Obviously we need to pick our battles and not every idea will be a focal > point, but it will be helpful to hear what's important to you. > > Your thoughts? > > Cheers > John > ___ > Oceania mailing list > Oceania@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania > ___ Oceania mailing list Oceania@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania
Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2024 OSGeo Oceania board objectives
Thanks Graeme, Interesting thought. There's been some great work on obtaining OSM waivers in the last several years and it would be good to see the momentum continue. Would you see this as being via the Oceania OSM local chapter, should it become more formally active? Or does OSGeo Oceania have an elevated status as a coordinating body? Cheers John On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 at 07:01, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I've apparently lost edit access to the document itself, so I'll mention > it here. > > Be a central "official" voice to approach all levels of Govt for better > access to Data for OSM mapping. > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 at 20:45, John Bryant via Oceania < > oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >> Hi all, the OSGeo Oceania board is meeting this Friday 12 Jan, and one of >> the agenda items is setting some objectives for 2024. >> >> There was some interesting input from the audience at FOSS4G SotM Oceania >> in October, which helps guide this exercise, but we would love to get >> further input from the community. What do you think we should focus on in >> the coming year? And of course, what would you be willing to put your own >> time and energy into? >> >> Here's what we've got so far (work in progress): >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0l_I15T-zm4LyLuwePq6ZfgS3OL9LEm >> >> Obviously we need to pick our battles and not every idea will be a focal >> point, but it will be helpful to hear what's important to you. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> Cheers >> John >> ___ >> Oceania mailing list >> Oceania@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania >> > ___ Oceania mailing list Oceania@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania
Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2024 OSGeo Oceania board objectives
Hi Graeme and John We financially managed to get the Tasmanian State Government to sign a waiver. I understand Queensland is one of the holdouts still. Anyone can convince them to do it, but I think it's a great role for OO to take on in terms of advocacy and knowing who needs to sign what. Getting more waivers signed is incremental, but impactful in the long term. Cheers, On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 at 12:36, John Bryant via Oceania < oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Thanks Graeme, > > Interesting thought. There's been some great work on obtaining OSM waivers > in the last several years and it would be good to see the momentum continue. > > Would you see this as being via the Oceania OSM local chapter, should it > become more formally active? Or does OSGeo Oceania have an elevated status > as a coordinating body? > > Cheers > John > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 at 07:01, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> I've apparently lost edit access to the document itself, so I'll mention >> it here. >> >> Be a central "official" voice to approach all levels of Govt for better >> access to Data for OSM mapping. >> >> Thanks >> >> Graeme >> >> >> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 at 20:45, John Bryant via Oceania < >> oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, the OSGeo Oceania board is meeting this Friday 12 Jan, and one >>> of the agenda items is setting some objectives for 2024. >>> >>> There was some interesting input from the audience at FOSS4G SotM >>> Oceania in October, which helps guide this exercise, but we would love to >>> get further input from the community. What do you think we should focus on >>> in the coming year? And of course, what would you be willing to put your >>> own time and energy into? >>> >>> Here's what we've got so far (work in progress): >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0l_I15T-zm4LyLuwePq6ZfgS3OL9LEm >>> >>> Obviously we need to pick our battles and not every idea will be a focal >>> point, but it will be helpful to hear what's important to you. >>> >>> Your thoughts? >>> >>> Cheers >>> John >>> ___ >>> Oceania mailing list >>> Oceania@lists.osgeo.org >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania >>> >> ___ > Oceania mailing list > Oceania@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania > -- *Alex Leith* m: +61 419 189 050 https://auspatious.com ___ Oceania mailing list Oceania@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania
Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2024 OSGeo Oceania board objectives
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 at 11:36, John Bryant wrote: > it would be good to see the momentum continue. > Certainly would! > Would you see this as being via the Oceania OSM local chapter, should it > become more formally active? > Yes, it would be good if it could do so! Personally (& I think it may be the case for quite a few others?), my only geo / QGIS activity / exposure is mapping via OSM, so that would be more meaningful for me, at least. Or does OSGeo Oceania have an elevated status as a coordinating body? > That one could be an either / or? Which has the greater public "presence / recognition"? > We financially managed to get the Tasmanian State Government to sign a > waiver. I understand Queensland is one of the holdouts still. > Yeah :-( I bit the bullet early last year & wrote straight to the Qld Premier asking if we could be given access to all Qld Govt Open Data. "She" acknowledged & said that my query was being redirected to teh appropriate Minister. Unfortunately, though, there was a Cabinet reshuffle only a few weeks later, which apparently killed that :-( Tried to follow-up a few months later but no response, not even an acknowledgement! & seeing that hse has herself now resigned, so a new Premier & Cabinet, with teh distinct possibility of a change of Govt this year, I'm not holding my breath! Anyone can convince them to do it, but I think it's a great role for OO to > take on in terms of advocacy and knowing who needs to sign what. Getting > more waivers signed is incremental, but impactful in the long term. > Yep! Thanks Graeme ___ Oceania mailing list Oceania@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania
Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2024 OSGeo Oceania board objectives
Hi John, everyone I didn't have the ability to comment on the document, so here goes: - create an osgeo.org gitlab instance and move all this stuff there so we can interact via issues:D (that one is half serious... I know the community doesn't necessarily want to interact with git ) I have just a few thoughts on a couple of areas: Comms: heavy plus to more open comms. In the news OSgeo just got a discourse instance running, maybe check in to see if a channel can be run there? OR set up an OO-administered discourse instance. Finances Paid memberships should be avoided, even if they're optional. It'll set up an expectation of service which I think is long-term harmful to OO. OO really needs to hold strongly to its current power to make decisions in the interests of the whole community. Direct sponsorship of OO is a good option to explore Education A question really: is OO planning to deliver education / training? is this more oriented at support, eg a grant program? Thanks, Adam On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 at 21:45, John Bryant via Oceania < oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Hi all, the OSGeo Oceania board is meeting this Friday 12 Jan, and one of > the agenda items is setting some objectives for 2024. > > There was some interesting input from the audience at FOSS4G SotM Oceania > in October, which helps guide this exercise, but we would love to get > further input from the community. What do you think we should focus on in > the coming year? And of course, what would you be willing to put your own > time and energy into? > > Here's what we've got so far (work in progress): > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0l_I15T-zm4LyLuwePq6ZfgS3OL9LEm > > Obviously we need to pick our battles and not every idea will be a focal > point, but it will be helpful to hear what's important to you. > > Your thoughts? > > Cheers > John > ___ > Oceania mailing list > Oceania@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania > ___ Oceania mailing list Oceania@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania
Re: [OSGeo Oceania] 2024 OSGeo Oceania board objectives
Hi everyone, Thanks for taking the time and sending us so many interesting inputs, we'll do our best to capture and integrate all. Adam, to answer your question about education: After speaking with other members of OO, especially in the Pacific area, we have identified what could be a potential obstacle to learning OS GIS software. If we support only with grants, as we have tried to do up to now, we leave to the - usually - single organiser, who could be based in remote areas with scarce internet connection, the burden to find resources and/or capable trainers, and that could bring the initiative to a stop, We all know all too well how much time and energy you have to dedicate to organise free events as volunteers! For this reason, I think we should discuss the opportunity to provide a basic set of resources - maybe QGIS and QGIS field training material? Anything else? - for people interested in running free training events that we can provide on request (along with a grant, of course). That material would also be useful for single user members who want to upskill in QGIS but have not the time or capability to follow a training course. There is so much free stuff online that shouldn't take too long to put together something, especially if people from the community are willing to help with what they have! In my vision, we could also help people who organise free training in the Pacific region to get in contact with QGIS trainees willing to help them, but I understand here we could step in a conflict of interest with private companies that do it for work, so happy to ditch this part! cheers, Elisa Il giorno lun 8 gen 2024 alle ore 23:56 Adam Steer via Oceania < oceania@lists.osgeo.org> ha scritto: > Hi John, everyone > > I didn't have the ability to comment on the document, so here goes: > > - create an osgeo.org gitlab instance and move all this stuff there so we > can interact via issues:D (that one is half serious... I know the community > doesn't necessarily want to interact with git ) > > I have just a few thoughts on a couple of areas: > > Comms: > heavy plus to more open comms. In the news OSgeo just got a discourse > instance running, maybe check in to see if a channel can be run there? OR > set up an OO-administered discourse instance. > > Finances > Paid memberships should be avoided, even if they're optional. It'll set up > an expectation of service which I think is long-term harmful to OO. OO > really needs to hold strongly to its current power to make decisions in the > interests of the whole community. > > Direct sponsorship of OO is a good option to explore > > Education > A question really: is OO planning to deliver education / training? is this > more oriented at support, eg a grant program? > > Thanks, > > Adam > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 at 21:45, John Bryant via Oceania < > oceania@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >> Hi all, the OSGeo Oceania board is meeting this Friday 12 Jan, and one of >> the agenda items is setting some objectives for 2024. >> >> There was some interesting input from the audience at FOSS4G SotM Oceania >> in October, which helps guide this exercise, but we would love to get >> further input from the community. What do you think we should focus on in >> the coming year? And of course, what would you be willing to put your own >> time and energy into? >> >> Here's what we've got so far (work in progress): >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L0l_I15T-zm4LyLuwePq6ZfgS3OL9LEm >> >> Obviously we need to pick our battles and not every idea will be a focal >> point, but it will be helpful to hear what's important to you. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> Cheers >> John >> ___ >> Oceania mailing list >> Oceania@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania >> > ___ > Oceania mailing list > Oceania@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania > -- Potrebbe andar peggio...potrebbe piovere! ___ Oceania mailing list Oceania@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania
