Re: [Ocfs2-users] future of ocfs2

[Sérgio Surkamp]

> It would also be helpful to hear if anyone has done wide deployments
> of OCFS. (How many systems do you have running it?) Or any other 
> experiences/stories about working with ocfs2. I'm curious - how many 
> people on the oracle-l list are running ocfs2?
> 

Our story:

In 2006 we have the need to switch from FreeBSD to another
operating system with any filesystem that supported shared disk
concurrent. Since our storage support two connected servers and we was
working with a fail-over FreeBSD cluster that get from 40 minutes to
more than one hour to bring the unit again in case of failure, due to
filesystem checks.

So we evaluated RHEL (GFS) and SLES (ocfs2) for a month and half as
possible solutions to our problem. Our final decision was to adopt ocfs2
running with SuSE SLES for some reasons:

* Was stable on the linux kernel.
* Proved stable and secure on our tests.
* Was supported by the vendor without additional support contracts.
* Some other commercial stuff that I can't remember.

So in 2007 we deployed the solution in the production env. and in the
first days we hit a bug on NFS handling due to our FreeBSD NFS clients.
Mr. Sunil and his team helped on everything possible to find and fix the
problem.

Since then we are running very stable with our 2 node clustered
application servers, 4 FreeBSD NFS clients and 1 OpenSuSE NFS client. We
just rebooted the servers to upgrade from SLES SP1 to SLES SP2, witch
upgraded the OCFS2 version from 1.2 to 1.4 without problems.

I known its a small deployment, but our deployment case shows the
commitment of Oracle and SuSE (as Mr. Sunil added some SuSE employees
to fallow the case) in supporting users and solving problems quickly.

Cluster information overview:

Main objectives: Concurrent access to a shared disk; Fail-over NFS
servers; General file storage.
Nodes: 2
Storage size: 800GB
Storage connection type: Fibber-channel

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Re: [Ocfs2-users] future of ocfs2

[Ulf Zimmermann]

> -Original Message-
> From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com [mailto:ocfs2-users-
> boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Schneider
> Sent: 02/06/2009 11:19
> To: Sunil Mushran
> Cc: oracl...@freelists.org; ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com
> Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] future of ocfs2
> 



> It would also be helpful to hear if anyone has done wide deployments
of
> OCFS. (How many systems do you have running it?) Or any other
> experiences/stories about working with ocfs2. I'm curious - how many
> people on the oracle-l list are running ocfs2?
> 
> Thanks again for all the feedback; I'll be sure to post an update
later
> with some of the outcomes!

My company has been running OCFS since begin of 2003. 1.5 years ago we
changed over to OCFS2.
With the exception of timing tuning we have had relative little
problems. We ran twice into bugs
which at that time were already fixed and we just upgraded. At this
point we run OCFS2 on four 2-node
clusters, one 4-node cluster and one 6-node cluster.

The OCFS2 file system is used to hold the voting and ocr files on one
5GB OCFS2 volume for each cluster
and several other OCFS2 volumes per cluster to hold Datafiles or Archive
files. We use SnapClone on our
3Par SANs to provide the development environment with copies from the
production database. OCFS2 so far
has worked very well with SnapClone, recovery takes less than a minute
and using this method our refresh
went from taking 7+ hours to about 1 hour.

In total we hold about 10TB on OCFS2 at this point.

Ulf.


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Re: [Ocfs2-users] future of ocfs2

[Jeremy Schneider]

Sunil Mushran wrote:
> Your qs is not new. I have heard people speculate about ocfs2's future 
> for many years now. First it was ASM. Now something else.

Thanks for the responses, everyone. These aren't new questions - of 
course - but they are persistent; and sometimes rumors about new 
features coupled with someone who "worked at Oracle at heard that ocfs2 
had some problems" and a pinch of psychological bias (c.f. 
http://carymillsap.blogspot.com/2009/02/on-usefulness-of-software.html ) 
can prevail over reasonable dialog. :)

I've been pretty enthusiastic about ocfs ever since I contributed that 
little bugfix to ocfs1 years ago but I haven't been keeping up-to-date 
on recent ocfs2 developments. I didn't do any major deployments on ocfs 
while I was consulting (we generally deployed RAC with ASM and 
local-storage only) and the company I'm with now hasn't had any 
experience with it. And since there's a little internal resistance to 
this technology for the reasons outlined above, I need to sell it 
internally.

Thanks especially to Sunil for mentioning Suse and the RH Linux Cluster 
Group and to Joel for the point-by-point reply. Also thanks to Andrew, 
LS, Julio and Alan for the non-Oracle-Corp perspectives - I need to hear 
back from some people who don't work at Oracle.  (The oracle-l list is 
great for that!)

It would also be helpful to hear if anyone has done wide deployments of 
OCFS. (How many systems do you have running it?) Or any other 
experiences/stories about working with ocfs2. I'm curious - how many 
people on the oracle-l list are running ocfs2?

Thanks again for all the feedback; I'll be sure to post an update later 
with some of the outcomes!

-Jeremy

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Re: [Ocfs2-users] RAC OS Migration

[Sunil Mushran]

Ask Novell whether you should upgrade or reinstall the OS. It is
afterall a large jump. From sles9 sp3 to sles10 sp2.

But when you do the change, install the latest sles10 sp2 kernel.

The file system can be used as is. There is no need to enable new features
immediately. Most of them are not useful for database use anycase.

You could always enable the new features as and when you get comfortable
in the new env.

Sunil

Karim Alkhayer wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>   
>
>   
>>> We've been finally given the green light to consider the upgrade to the
>>>   
> latest available OCFS2 version
>   
>>> Currently, we're running RAC 10.1.0.5 on a two-nodes cluster, and there
>>>   
> are no plans at the moment to upgrade Oracle software version
>
>   
>>> My concerns are the following:
>>>   
>
>   
>>> 1) The OS upgrade vs. OS fresh install
>>> We're running SLES9 SP3 Kernel 2.6.5-7.257. SLES10 SP2 is the target that
>>>   
> ships ocfs2 1.4.1.
>
>   
>>> 2) OCFS2 upgrade via tune.ocfs2 vs. mkfs after OS upgrade. 
>>> Obviously, if we did the fresh OS install, we will have to rebuild the
>>>   
> RAC cluster/software again. 
>   
>>> However, using tune.ocfs2 to enable the new features might cause
>>>   
> stability issues with respect to operating the 
>   
>>> cluster file system.
>>>   
>
>   
>>> I'd like to place a safe/simple migration plan so that we can place the
>>>   
> RAC back to business ASAP 
>
> Appreciate your input
> Karim
>
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Re: [Ocfs2-users] help with adding a node....

[Sunil Mushran]

Node 0 does not know about this node. Run the o2cb_ctl command
on node 0 to add a node to a live cluster as listed in 1.4 user's guide.

Andrew Deagman wrote:
> I am receiving the following error when I attempt to add a node to the 
> cluster:
>
> o2net: connected to node bapp02 (num 5) at 10.10.16.12: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bapp04 (num 7) at 10.10.16.14: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bapp05 (num 8) at 10.10.16.15: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bdb02 (num 10) at 10.10.20.12: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bdb01 (num 9) at 10.10.20.11: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bapp03 (num 6) at 10.10.16.13: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bapp06x (num 13) at 10.10.16.16: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bsip01x (num 15) at 10.10.16.17: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bnosey (num 11) at 10.10.8.20: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bws01 (num 1) at 10.10.12.11: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bws02 (num 2) at 10.10.12.12: 
> 
> o2net: connected to node bws03 (num 3) at 10.10.12.13: 
> 
> OCFS2 1.4.1 Wed Jul 23 12:06:08 PDT 2008 (build 
> 3fc82af4b5669945497b322b6aabd031)
> (1279,0):o2net_connect_expired:1637 ERROR: no connection established 
> with node 0 after 30.0 seconds, giving up and returning errors.
> (3303,0):dlm_request_join:1033 ERROR: status = -107
> (3303,0):dlm_try_to_join_domain:1207 ERROR: status = -107
> (3303,0):dlm_join_domain:1485 ERROR: status = -107
> (3303,0):dlm_register_domain:1732 ERROR: status = -107
> (3303,0):ocfs2_dlm_init:2662 ERROR: status = -107
> (3303,0):ocfs2_mount_volume:1251 ERROR: status = -107
> ocfs2: Unmounting device (202,33) on (node 16)
> o2net: no longer connected to node bws01 (num 1) at 10.10.12.11: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bws02 (num 2) at 10.10.12.12: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bws03 (num 3) at 10.10.12.13: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bapp02 (num 5) at 10.10.16.12: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bapp03 (num 6) at 10.10.16.13: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bapp04 (num 7) at 10.10.16.14: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bapp05 (num 8) at 10.10.16.15: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bdb01 (num 9) at 10.10.20.11: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bdb02 (num 10) at 10.10.20.12: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bnosey (num 11) at 10.10.8.20: 
> 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bapp06x (num 13) at 
> 10.10.16.16: 
> o2net: no longer connected to node bsip01x (num 15) at 
> 10.10.16.17: 
>
> Other nodes in the cluster can mount the shared file system without 
> any issues. I have checked over /etc/ocfs2/cluster.conf and the file 
> is correct, no typos's or anything else. When I run o2cb_ctl to get 
> information about the node it shows the following:
>
> bash-3.2# o2cb_ctl -I -n bftp01x
> node:
> name = bftp01x
> cluster = cfi_cl01
> number = 16
> ip_address = 10.10.12.14
> ip_port = 
> status = configured
>
> I am a little stumped as to what can be going on. Is there a way I can 
> delete the node and start from scratch on a running cluster? I 
> attempted to use o2cb_ctl to do this however I get the following error:
>
> bash-3.2# o2cb_ctl -D -n bftp01x -u
> o2cb_ctl: Not yet supported
> bash-3.2#
>
> Any help on this  would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
>
> 
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Re: [Ocfs2-users] Copying data from ocfs2 to an ocfs volume

[Sunil Mushran]

Unsure what the confusion is. The answer was correct. fscat can read
certain unmounted fs. The list is mentioned on the home page. ext2, ext3,
ocfs and ocfs2. It does not write to these file systems when they are
unmounted. It can write to any mounted file system.


Mehmet Can ÖNAL wrote:
> Hi everyone;
>
> I wnat to ask you a question about migration processes. I know that we can 
> use both fscat and backup/restore method for migrating data from ocfs to 
> ocfs2.
>
> I am in situation that i should wonder about a disaster solution that i have 
> to copy an ocfs2 volume to an ocfs volume. 
>
> Does fscat package can copy (fscp) an unmounted ocfs2 volume to an mounted 
> ocfs volume?
>
> İ have read at oss.oracle.com that it supports ext2,ext3,ocfs and ocfs2 
> umounted file systems but i have asked this question long ago but i could not 
> get a clear answer. (except the answer " > No, the fscat tools can only read 
> certain unmounted file systems.
>   
>> They cannot write. You can use it to copy data from ocfs
>> to ocfs2 on a box running the 2.6 kernel (sles9/10, el4/5). ")
>> 
>
> Could anyone give a clear explanation about this stuff?
>
>
> Thanx for your time
> Mehmet Can ONAL 
>
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Re: [Ocfs2-users] future of ocfs2

[Sunil Mushran]

One point I missed out earlier is that ocfs2 should not be viewed as
an Oracle only product. When the fs was pushed into the mainline kernel,
it was because we wanted it to become a community project. Like Linux
itself.

Until some time ago, we would credit non-oracle people who contributed
patches to it. No more. It is getting very complicated. For example,
let's review the parentage of two new features we've added recently.

1. Extended attributes: Added in 2.6.28. The spec was first written by
Suse, later enhanced by Oracle. Coded by Oracle. Patches reviewed by Suse
and Oracle. Tested by Oracle. Being currently tested in Suse as it is part
of their next release.

2. Quotas: Added in 2.6.29. Spec-ed and developed by Suse (by the kernel's
quota subsystem maintainer). Reviewed by Oracle and Suse. Tested by Oracle.

And it is not just Suse. Even as I write, I am debugging an issue pointed
to by Red Hat's Linux Cluster group. It has to do with ocfs2 working with
the new cman.

OCFS2, in more ways than one, is very much a product of this decade.

Sunil


Joel Becker wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 06:28:51PM -0600, Jeremy Schneider wrote:
>   
>> We're internally debating whether or not we should include OCFS2 in this 
>> design right now, and I'm curious if anyone has arguments one way or the 
>> other to share. Our standard design on Solaris does utilize a cluster 
>> filesystem and we would welcome a similar design, but there are some 
>> concerns about the readiness, stability and future of OCFS2.
>> 
>
>   Short answer: It's been ready for years, it's been stable for
> years, and it has a bright future.
>
>   
>> OCFS2 is being considered for these four use cases:
>> - database binaries (vs local files or NFS)
>> - diag top (11g) or admin tree (10g) (vs local files or NFS)
>> - archived logs
>> - backups
>> 
>
>   These are the most standard and basic of ocfs2 uses outside of
> data files.  Almost all customers running ocfs2 are using it for most or
> all of these files.
>
>   
>> I have seen mention in blogs such as 
>> http://bigdaveroberts.wordpress.com/ of something called ASMFS in 11gR2 
>> and I'm wondering - will this feature (if included) have any impact on 
>> Oracle's commitment to OCFS2 development? Could Oracle conceivably 
>> develop a whole new cluster filesystem and put their full weight behind 
>> it as they did for ASM storage, leaving OCFS2 as a lower priority for 
>> new features and improvements? Has Oracle demonstrated significant 
>> commitment to OCFS2 development and support in the past, and is this a 
>> mature enough technology for wide-scale deployment?
>> 
>
>   Oracle continually works to improve the power and usability of
> of its products.  Sometimes features overlap, but that doesn't mean they
> must exclude each other.  For example, you are planning to use ASM
> storage for datafiles, but a filesystem of some type (ocfs2, NFS,
> whatever) for other files.  This works just fine.  Those of us who work
> on ocfs2 are not stopping.
>   Let's revisit your questions at the top.  First up is readiness.
> ocfs2 1.2, the older of the two currently supported production releases,
> was released in February 2006.  That's three years ago.  Customers have
> been running it for the use cases you describe ever since.
>   Next is stability.  Oracle does extensive testing on each
> release of ocfs2 to provide the best stability we can.  The 1.2 release
> ironed out most of its bugs long ago.  The new 1.4 release, released in
> August 2008, provides some significant performance improvements and is
> already being adopted by our customers.
>   What about the future?  We just released the 1.4 version, and
> we're not done yet.  As Sunil pointed out in his email, we have a number
> of significant features landing in the mainline Linux kernel; this is
> where we do the development of ocfs2.  These features will make their
> way into ocfs2 1.4 or a future release as they become stable.
>   I hope that covers Oracle's commitment to the development of
> ocfs2.  For support, let's look at
> http://oss.oracle.com/projects/ocfs2/ (you can go there for all sorts of
> information about ocfs2):
>
> -8<
> SUPPORT
>
> Oracle provides full support for the OCFS2 file system for Oracle's
> Unbreakable Linux Network subscribers.
>
> Oracle also extends support for the OCFS2 file system to Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux users for use with Oracle's database product.
>
> Novell provides full support for the OCFS2 file system to SUSE Linux
> Enterprise Server users. 
> ->8
>
>   I hope this answers your questions and helps you in making your
> decision.
>
> Joel
>
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[Ocfs2-users] RAC OS Migration

[Karim Alkhayer]

>> Hello All,

>> We've been finally given the green light to consider the upgrade to the
latest available OCFS2 version
>> Currently, we're running RAC 10.1.0.5 on a two-nodes cluster, and there
are no plans at the moment to upgrade Oracle software version

>> My concerns are the following:

>> 1) The OS upgrade vs. OS fresh install
>> We're running SLES9 SP3 Kernel 2.6.5-7.257. SLES10 SP2 is the target that
ships ocfs2 1.4.1.

>> 2) OCFS2 upgrade via tune.ocfs2 vs. mkfs after OS upgrade. 
>> Obviously, if we did the fresh OS install, we will have to rebuild the
RAC cluster/software again. 
>> However, using tune.ocfs2 to enable the new features might cause
stability issues with respect to operating the 
>> cluster file system.

>> I'd like to place a safe/simple migration plan so that we can place the
RAC back to business ASAP 

Appreciate your input
Karim


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[Ocfs2-users] help with adding a node....

[Andrew Deagman]

I am receiving the following error when I attempt to add a node to the
cluster:

o2net: connected to node bapp02 (num 5) at 10.10.16.12:
o2net: connected to node bapp04 (num 7) at 10.10.16.14:
o2net: connected to node bapp05 (num 8) at 10.10.16.15:
o2net: connected to node bdb02 (num 10) at 10.10.20.12:
o2net: connected to node bdb01 (num 9) at 10.10.20.11:
o2net: connected to node bapp03 (num 6) at 10.10.16.13:
o2net: connected to node bapp06x (num 13) at 10.10.16.16:
o2net: connected to node bsip01x (num 15) at 10.10.16.17:
o2net: connected to node bnosey (num 11) at 10.10.8.20:
o2net: connected to node bws01 (num 1) at 10.10.12.11:
o2net: connected to node bws02 (num 2) at 10.10.12.12:
o2net: connected to node bws03 (num 3) at 10.10.12.13:
OCFS2 1.4.1 Wed Jul 23 12:06:08 PDT 2008 (build
3fc82af4b5669945497b322b6aabd031)
(1279,0):o2net_connect_expired:1637 ERROR: no connection established with
node 0 after 30.0 seconds, giving up and returning errors.
(3303,0):dlm_request_join:1033 ERROR: status = -107
(3303,0):dlm_try_to_join_domain:1207 ERROR: status = -107
(3303,0):dlm_join_domain:1485 ERROR: status = -107
(3303,0):dlm_register_domain:1732 ERROR: status = -107
(3303,0):ocfs2_dlm_init:2662 ERROR: status = -107
(3303,0):ocfs2_mount_volume:1251 ERROR: status = -107
ocfs2: Unmounting device (202,33) on (node 16)
o2net: no longer connected to node bws01 (num 1) at 10.10.12.11:
o2net: no longer connected to node bws02 (num 2) at 10.10.12.12:
o2net: no longer connected to node bws03 (num 3) at 10.10.12.13:
o2net: no longer connected to node bapp02 (num 5) at 10.10.16.12:
o2net: no longer connected to node bapp03 (num 6) at 10.10.16.13:
o2net: no longer connected to node bapp04 (num 7) at 10.10.16.14:
o2net: no longer connected to node bapp05 (num 8) at 10.10.16.15:
o2net: no longer connected to node bdb01 (num 9) at 10.10.20.11:
o2net: no longer connected to node bdb02 (num 10) at 10.10.20.12:
o2net: no longer connected to node bnosey (num 11) at 10.10.8.20:
o2net: no longer connected to node bapp06x (num 13) at 10.10.16.16:
o2net: no longer connected to node bsip01x (num 15) at 10.10.16.17:

Other nodes in the cluster can mount the shared file system without any
issues. I have checked over /etc/ocfs2/cluster.conf and the file is correct,
no typos's or anything else. When I run o2cb_ctl to get information about
the node it shows the following:

bash-3.2# o2cb_ctl -I -n bftp01x
node:
name = bftp01x
cluster = cfi_cl01
number = 16
ip_address = 10.10.12.14
ip_port = 
status = configured

I am a little stumped as to what can be going on. Is there a way I can
delete the node and start from scratch on a running cluster? I attempted to
use o2cb_ctl to do this however I get the following error:

bash-3.2# o2cb_ctl -D -n bftp01x -u
o2cb_ctl: Not yet supported
bash-3.2#

Any help on this  would be great.

Thanks
Andrew
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[Ocfs2-users] Copying data from ocfs2 to an ocfs volume

[Mehmet Can ÖNAL]

Hi everyone;

I wnat to ask you a question about migration processes. I know that we can use 
both fscat and backup/restore method for migrating data from ocfs to ocfs2.

I am in situation that i should wonder about a disaster solution that i have to 
copy an ocfs2 volume to an ocfs volume. 

Does fscat package can copy (fscp) an unmounted ocfs2 volume to an mounted ocfs 
volume?

İ have read at oss.oracle.com that it supports ext2,ext3,ocfs and ocfs2 
umounted file systems but i have asked this question long ago but i could not 
get a clear answer. (except the answer " > No, the fscat tools can only read 
certain unmounted file systems.
> They cannot write. You can use it to copy data from ocfs
> to ocfs2 on a box running the 2.6 kernel (sles9/10, el4/5). ")

Could anyone give a clear explanation about this stuff?


Thanx for your time
Mehmet Can ONAL 



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Re: [Ocfs2-users] future of ocfs2

[Joel Becker]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 06:28:51PM -0600, Jeremy Schneider wrote:
> We're internally debating whether or not we should include OCFS2 in this 
> design right now, and I'm curious if anyone has arguments one way or the 
> other to share. Our standard design on Solaris does utilize a cluster 
> filesystem and we would welcome a similar design, but there are some 
> concerns about the readiness, stability and future of OCFS2.

Short answer: It's been ready for years, it's been stable for
years, and it has a bright future.

> OCFS2 is being considered for these four use cases:
> - database binaries (vs local files or NFS)
> - diag top (11g) or admin tree (10g) (vs local files or NFS)
> - archived logs
> - backups

These are the most standard and basic of ocfs2 uses outside of
data files.  Almost all customers running ocfs2 are using it for most or
all of these files.

> I have seen mention in blogs such as 
> http://bigdaveroberts.wordpress.com/ of something called ASMFS in 11gR2 
> and I'm wondering - will this feature (if included) have any impact on 
> Oracle's commitment to OCFS2 development? Could Oracle conceivably 
> develop a whole new cluster filesystem and put their full weight behind 
> it as they did for ASM storage, leaving OCFS2 as a lower priority for 
> new features and improvements? Has Oracle demonstrated significant 
> commitment to OCFS2 development and support in the past, and is this a 
> mature enough technology for wide-scale deployment?

Oracle continually works to improve the power and usability of
of its products.  Sometimes features overlap, but that doesn't mean they
must exclude each other.  For example, you are planning to use ASM
storage for datafiles, but a filesystem of some type (ocfs2, NFS,
whatever) for other files.  This works just fine.  Those of us who work
on ocfs2 are not stopping.
Let's revisit your questions at the top.  First up is readiness.
ocfs2 1.2, the older of the two currently supported production releases,
was released in February 2006.  That's three years ago.  Customers have
been running it for the use cases you describe ever since.
Next is stability.  Oracle does extensive testing on each
release of ocfs2 to provide the best stability we can.  The 1.2 release
ironed out most of its bugs long ago.  The new 1.4 release, released in
August 2008, provides some significant performance improvements and is
already being adopted by our customers.
What about the future?  We just released the 1.4 version, and
we're not done yet.  As Sunil pointed out in his email, we have a number
of significant features landing in the mainline Linux kernel; this is
where we do the development of ocfs2.  These features will make their
way into ocfs2 1.4 or a future release as they become stable.
I hope that covers Oracle's commitment to the development of
ocfs2.  For support, let's look at
http://oss.oracle.com/projects/ocfs2/ (you can go there for all sorts of
information about ocfs2):

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SUPPORT

Oracle provides full support for the OCFS2 file system for Oracle's
Unbreakable Linux Network subscribers.

Oracle also extends support for the OCFS2 file system to Red Hat
Enterprise Linux users for use with Oracle's database product.

Novell provides full support for the OCFS2 file system to SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server users. 
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I hope this answers your questions and helps you in making your
decision.

Joel

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