Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
* Joel Becker wrote: The latest ocfs2 is always in mainline. Any distro building a recent kernel an including ocfs2 will have it. As Sunil says, this includes Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and OpenSuSE. Whether ocfs2 is enabled in the CentOS kernel is up to CentOS. Linux 2.6.39-rc7 has version 1.5.0 in Linus'es tree: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=fs/ocfs2/ver.c;h=e2488f4128a20f563459ba936cf263160e7350b2;hb=693d92a1bbc9e42681c42ed190bd42b636ca876f From what I can tell from the changelog, you use the upstream-linus branch of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jlbec/ocfs2 to sync with mainline, which also carries version 1.5.0. However, the latest version seems to be 1.6.3, available in the unbreakable linux kernel tree: http://oss.oracle.com/git/?p=linux-2.6-unbreakable.git;a=blob;f=fs/ocfs2/ver.c;h=8da71cb480f9cdd4cb0ff67f70a9b863f62b9a8b;hb=HEAD It was bumped in september last year... [~/linux-2.6-unbreakable]$ git log fs/ocfs2/ver.c commit c15e040971a341ca7e62448eac77385f91f6702f Author: Sunil Mushran sunil.mush...@oracle.com Date: Tue Sep 14 14:02:49 2010 -0700 ocfs2: Ups the version from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 ... It's a bit confusing that mainline ver.c was last updated in 2007, at the same time there are ocfs2 patches continuously accepted in mainline, and the unbreakable kernel is at 1.6.3... is ver.c simply forgotten or are there other differences between the trees? ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
On 05/17/2011 06:00 AM, Sven Karlsson wrote: * Joel Becker wrote: The latest ocfs2 is always in mainline. Any distro building a recent kernel an including ocfs2 will have it. As Sunil says, this includes Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and OpenSuSE. Whether ocfs2 is enabled in the CentOS kernel is up to CentOS. Linux 2.6.39-rc7 has version 1.5.0 in Linus'es tree: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=fs/ocfs2/ver.c;h=e2488f4128a20f563459ba936cf263160e7350b2;hb=693d92a1bbc9e42681c42ed190bd42b636ca876f From what I can tell from the changelog, you use the upstream-linus branch of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jlbec/ocfs2 to sync with mainline, which also carries version 1.5.0. However, the latest version seems to be 1.6.3, available in the unbreakable linux kernel tree: http://oss.oracle.com/git/?p=linux-2.6-unbreakable.git;a=blob;f=fs/ocfs2/ver.c;h=8da71cb480f9cdd4cb0ff67f70a9b863f62b9a8b;hb=HEAD It was bumped in september last year... [~/linux-2.6-unbreakable]$ git log fs/ocfs2/ver.c commit c15e040971a341ca7e62448eac77385f91f6702f Author: Sunil Mushransunil.mush...@oracle.com Date: Tue Sep 14 14:02:49 2010 -0700 ocfs2: Ups the version from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 ... It's a bit confusing that mainline ver.c was last updated in 2007, at the same time there are ocfs2 patches continuously accepted in mainline, and the unbreakable kernel is at 1.6.3... is ver.c simply forgotten or are there other differences between the trees? The version number place holder in the mainline is not useful. Because a mainline kernel ships with only one ocfs2 module, we don't need the version# in the module. Hence we've stopped updating it. Maybe we should just remove it. But that does not mean it does not have the features. If you are looking for the list of features in the mainline, then just look at mkfs.ocfs2's manpage. It lists the mainline kernel version the feature was added in. The ocfs2 module version was only required because we were shipping ocfs2 outside of the kernel (for RHEL). OCFS2 1.4 is the last release under that model. Going forward, ocfs2 will only be available with the kernel. (I mean there is nothing stopping a person from distributing it however they want. But that's highly unlikely.) OL, SLES, Fedora, Debian, OpenSUSE, ubuntu all ship ocfs2 along with the kernel. If it is not in your distro, ping the vendor. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
Joel Becker skrev 2011-05-13 22:32: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 09:53:37PM +0200, Kristian Jörg wrote: We are using CentOS (based on RHEL5). So this basically means we are stuck with ocfs2 1.4 forever when it comes to official releases? But I guess when you release the source code for 1.6 I could try and compile it myself for CentOS? 1.6 is still GPL right? Yes, you absolutely can compile it yourself. There is no guarantees that the specfiles will exist or work, but if you create working specfiles please sent a patch. Ok, great. We have been testing ocfs2 since we have been having huge problems with GFS with the kind of filesystems we have (lots and lots of small files and mostly read access). Ocfs2 seems to solve all these performance problems and we had high hopes for it. However the news that 1.6 and forward will not be available for RHEL/CentOS is bad news. I do hope you will reconsider. A big user base is the best way to make successful products IMHO. The latest ocfs2 is always in mainline. Any distro building a recent kernel an including ocfs2 will have it. As Sunil says, this includes Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and OpenSuSE. Whether ocfs2 is enabled in the CentOS kernel is up to CentOS. Nice, I must have misunderstood Sunil's answer and thought the relaese would be available for Oracle linux distro only. Since CentOS follows RHEL closely, and their choice if sared FS is GFS, it is unlikely they will include it if RHEL does not. However, we do have an option to change distro. Thanks Kristian Joel ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
On 05/13/2011 03:13 AM, Kristian Jörg wrote: Hello! When is it planned ocfs2 1.6 will be available for RHEL? /Kristian No plans. Only OL/UEK. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
Hi Sunil, can you clarify - I understood that OCFS2 1.6 on RHEL would be supported, as long as you use RHEL with UEK and an Oracle Support agreement - per MOS note 1253272.1? Thanks! Regards! Keith Fahrenfort Solutions Architect - HP-Oracle Competency Center Americas Shared Solutions Architecture (SSA) Hewlett-Packard Company 281 475 8632 / Tel kei...@hp.com / Email Reach the team at s...@hp.com -Original Message- From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com [mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Mushran Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: Kristian Jörg Cc: ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL? On 05/13/2011 03:13 AM, Kristian Jörg wrote: Hello! When is it planned ocfs2 1.6 will be available for RHEL? /Kristian No plans. Only OL/UEK. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
Support is a whole different ballgame. I am only talking about availability. And I interpreted that qs to be asking whether ocfs2 1.6 be available for the standard rhel kernels. And the answer is no. It will be available only for uek. On 05/13/2011 08:34 AM, Fahrenfort, Keith (HP Shared Solutions Architect for Oracle) wrote: Hi Sunil, can you clarify - I understood that OCFS2 1.6 on RHEL would be supported, as long as you use RHEL with UEK and an Oracle Support agreement - per MOS note 1253272.1? Thanks! Regards! Keith Fahrenfort Solutions Architect - HP-Oracle Competency Center Americas Shared Solutions Architecture (SSA) Hewlett-Packard Company 281 475 8632 / Tel kei...@hp.com / Email Reach the team at s...@hp.com -Original Message- From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com [mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Mushran Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: Kristian Jörg Cc: ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL? On 05/13/2011 03:13 AM, Kristian Jörg wrote: Hello! When is it planned ocfs2 1.6 will be available for RHEL? /Kristian No plans. Only OL/UEK. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
We are using CentOS (based on RHEL5). So this basically means we are stuck with ocfs2 1.4 forever when it comes to official releases? But I guess when you release the source code for 1.6 I could try and compile it myself for CentOS? 1.6 is still GPL right? We have been testing ocfs2 since we have been having huge problems with GFS with the kind of filesystems we have (lots and lots of small files and mostly read access). Ocfs2 seems to solve all these performance problems and we had high hopes for it. However the news that 1.6 and forward will not be available for RHEL/CentOS is bad news. I do hope you will reconsider. A big user base is the best way to make successful products IMHO. /Kristian Sunil Mushran skrev 2011-05-13 18:46: Support is a whole different ballgame. I am only talking about availability. And I interpreted that qs to be asking whether ocfs2 1.6 be available for the standard rhel kernels. And the answer is no. It will be available only for uek. On 05/13/2011 08:34 AM, Fahrenfort, Keith (HP Shared Solutions Architect for Oracle) wrote: Hi Sunil, can you clarify - I understood that OCFS2 1.6 on RHEL would be supported, as long as you use RHEL with UEK and an Oracle Support agreement - per MOS note 1253272.1? Thanks! Regards! Keith Fahrenfort Solutions Architect - HP-Oracle Competency Center Americas Shared Solutions Architecture (SSA) Hewlett-Packard Company 281 475 8632 / Tel kei...@hp.com / Email Reach the team at s...@hp.com -Original Message- From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com [mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Mushran Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: Kristian Jörg Cc: ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL? On 05/13/2011 03:13 AM, Kristian Jörg wrote: Hello! When is it planned ocfs2 1.6 will be available for RHEL? /Kristian No plans. Only OL/UEK. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
If big user base is the best way... then we have no worries because ocfs2 1.6 is available on fedora, opensuse, ubuntu and debian. On 05/13/2011 12:53 PM, Kristian Jörg wrote: We are using CentOS (based on RHEL5). So this basically means we are stuck with ocfs2 1.4 forever when it comes to official releases? But I guess when you release the source code for 1.6 I could try and compile it myself for CentOS? 1.6 is still GPL right? We have been testing ocfs2 since we have been having huge problems with GFS with the kind of filesystems we have (lots and lots of small files and mostly read access). Ocfs2 seems to solve all these performance problems and we had high hopes for it. However the news that 1.6 and forward will not be available for RHEL/CentOS is bad news. I do hope you will reconsider. A big user base is the best way to make successful products IMHO. /Kristian Sunil Mushran skrev 2011-05-13 18:46: Support is a whole different ballgame. I am only talking about availability. And I interpreted that qs to be asking whether ocfs2 1.6 be available for the standard rhel kernels. And the answer is no. It will be available only for uek. On 05/13/2011 08:34 AM, Fahrenfort, Keith (HP Shared Solutions Architect for Oracle) wrote: Hi Sunil, can you clarify - I understood that OCFS2 1.6 on RHEL would be supported, as long as you use RHEL with UEK and an Oracle Support agreement - per MOS note 1253272.1? Thanks! Regards! Keith Fahrenfort Solutions Architect - HP-Oracle Competency Center Americas Shared Solutions Architecture (SSA) Hewlett-Packard Company 281 475 8632 / Tel kei...@hp.com / Email Reach the team at s...@hp.com -Original Message- From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com [mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Mushran Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: Kristian Jörg Cc: ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL? On 05/13/2011 03:13 AM, Kristian Jörg wrote: Hello! When is it planned ocfs2 1.6 will be available for RHEL? /Kristian No plans. Only OL/UEK. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
I think the UEK will work on Centos as well. Thanks, Herbert. On May 13, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Kristian Jörg k...@devo.se wrote: We are using CentOS (based on RHEL5). So this basically means we are stuck with ocfs2 1.4 forever when it comes to official releases? But I guess when you release the source code for 1.6 I could try and compile it myself for CentOS? 1.6 is still GPL right? We have been testing ocfs2 since we have been having huge problems with GFS with the kind of filesystems we have (lots and lots of small files and mostly read access). Ocfs2 seems to solve all these performance problems and we had high hopes for it. However the news that 1.6 and forward will not be available for RHEL/CentOS is bad news. I do hope you will reconsider. A big user base is the best way to make successful products IMHO. /Kristian Sunil Mushran skrev 2011-05-13 18:46: Support is a whole different ballgame. I am only talking about availability. And I interpreted that qs to be asking whether ocfs2 1.6 be available for the standard rhel kernels. And the answer is no. It will be available only for uek. On 05/13/2011 08:34 AM, Fahrenfort, Keith (HP Shared Solutions Architect for Oracle) wrote: Hi Sunil, can you clarify - I understood that OCFS2 1.6 on RHEL would be supported, as long as you use RHEL with UEK and an Oracle Support agreement - per MOS note 1253272.1? Thanks! Regards! Keith Fahrenfort Solutions Architect - HP-Oracle Competency Center Americas Shared Solutions Architecture (SSA) Hewlett-Packard Company 281 475 8632 / Tel kei...@hp.com / Email Reach the team at s...@hp.com -Original Message- From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com [mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Mushran Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: Kristian Jörg Cc: ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL? On 05/13/2011 03:13 AM, Kristian Jörg wrote: Hello! When is it planned ocfs2 1.6 will be available for RHEL? /Kristian No plans. Only OL/UEK. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
We are running UEK (for OL5) on CentOS 5.5 for about four months without a single problem. Just fallow the public repository - http://public-yum.oracle.com/ - instructions for Oracle Linux 5. Regards, Sérgio Em Fri, 13 May 2011 13:06:06 -0700 Herbert van den Bergh herbert.van.den.be...@oracle.com escreveu: I think the UEK will work on Centos as well. Thanks, Herbert. On May 13, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Kristian Jörg k...@devo.se wrote: We are using CentOS (based on RHEL5). So this basically means we are stuck with ocfs2 1.4 forever when it comes to official releases? But I guess when you release the source code for 1.6 I could try and compile it myself for CentOS? 1.6 is still GPL right? We have been testing ocfs2 since we have been having huge problems with GFS with the kind of filesystems we have (lots and lots of small files and mostly read access). Ocfs2 seems to solve all these performance problems and we had high hopes for it. However the news that 1.6 and forward will not be available for RHEL/CentOS is bad news. I do hope you will reconsider. A big user base is the best way to make successful products IMHO. /Kristian Sunil Mushran skrev 2011-05-13 18:46: Support is a whole different ballgame. I am only talking about availability. And I interpreted that qs to be asking whether ocfs2 1.6 be available for the standard rhel kernels. And the answer is no. It will be available only for uek. On 05/13/2011 08:34 AM, Fahrenfort, Keith (HP Shared Solutions Architect for Oracle) wrote: Hi Sunil, can you clarify - I understood that OCFS2 1.6 on RHEL would be supported, as long as you use RHEL with UEK and an Oracle Support agreement - per MOS note 1253272.1? Thanks! Regards! Keith Fahrenfort Solutions Architect - HP-Oracle Competency Center Americas Shared Solutions Architecture (SSA) Hewlett-Packard Company 281 475 8632 / Tel kei...@hp.com / Email Reach the team at s...@hp.com -Original Message- From: ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com [mailto:ocfs2-users-boun...@oss.oracle.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Mushran Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:06 AM To: Kristian Jörg Cc: ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL? On 05/13/2011 03:13 AM, Kristian Jörg wrote: Hello! When is it planned ocfs2 1.6 will be available for RHEL? /Kristian No plans. Only OL/UEK. ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users -- .:':. .:'` Sérgio Surkamp | Gerente de Rede :: ser...@gruposinternet.com.br `:..:' `:, ,.:' *Grupos Internet S.A.* `: :'R. Lauro Linhares, 2123 Torre B - Sala 201 : : Trindade - Florianópolis - SC :.' :: +55 48 3234-4109 : ' http://www.gruposinternet.com.br ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
Re: [Ocfs2-users] OCFS2 1.6 for RHEL?
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 09:53:37PM +0200, Kristian Jörg wrote: We are using CentOS (based on RHEL5). So this basically means we are stuck with ocfs2 1.4 forever when it comes to official releases? But I guess when you release the source code for 1.6 I could try and compile it myself for CentOS? 1.6 is still GPL right? Yes, you absolutely can compile it yourself. There is no guarantees that the specfiles will exist or work, but if you create working specfiles please sent a patch. We have been testing ocfs2 since we have been having huge problems with GFS with the kind of filesystems we have (lots and lots of small files and mostly read access). Ocfs2 seems to solve all these performance problems and we had high hopes for it. However the news that 1.6 and forward will not be available for RHEL/CentOS is bad news. I do hope you will reconsider. A big user base is the best way to make successful products IMHO. The latest ocfs2 is always in mainline. Any distro building a recent kernel an including ocfs2 will have it. As Sunil says, this includes Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and OpenSuSE. Whether ocfs2 is enabled in the CentOS kernel is up to CentOS. Joel -- Life's Little Instruction Book #232 Keep your promises. http://www.jlbec.org/ jl...@evilplan.org ___ Ocfs2-users mailing list Ocfs2-users@oss.oracle.com http://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-users
