Re: [oi-dev] illumos

2013-06-21 Thread Jean-Pierre

G B wrote:

OI has used Illumos for 2 years or so I'd say.  Someone can correct my
timeframe if they'd like. Illumos is an open source continuation of the
Solaris kernel though.



IMHO this just means that the Solaris kernel has been recompiled,
with some value added to the building process.

I have yet to identify where is the value added to the kernel
itself, it is still identified as SunOS 5.11 (c) 2010
In particular the support of newer hardware appears to be
deficient.

Jean-Pierre


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Re: [oi-dev] illumos

2013-06-21 Thread Saso Kiselkov
On 21/06/2013 07:52, Jean-Pierre wrote:
 I have yet to identify where is the value added to the kernel
 itself,

See https://www.illumos.org/projects/illumos-gate/activity for just some
of the stuff within the last 1 month.

 it is still identified as SunOS 5.11 (c) 2010

That's because tons of configure and platform detection scripts depend
on this. Notice that Sun hasn't changed the signature from 'SunOS' to
'Solaris' when going forward from SunOS 2.4 some 20 years ago either.

 In particular the support of newer hardware appears to be
 deficient.

Illumos is open-source, so if you think it should support a particular
piece of hardware, feel free to pick up the DDI and write your own
driver. Unfortunately unless you pay other people's paychecks, you can't
really do much more than either politely request somebody write a driver
(and accept when people have other things to do), or do it yourself.

Cheers,
-- 
Saso

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Re: [oi-dev] new (minor) dependency issue in hipster repo

2013-06-21 Thread Andrzej Szeszo
Have you got packages from publishers other than openindiana.org installed?

Can you provide output of the command below?

pkg list | grep -v -- i--

Cheers,

Andrzej


On 21 June 2013 00:50, Chad Cantwell c...@iomail.org wrote:
 Yes, I noticed a commit about an issue with the hipster repo that was said to 
 be fixed
 before I ran across the issue.  Anyway, I just checked another machine (since 
 I don't
 want to reboot the first machine into the older BE), and it has the same 
 error I run
 'pkg uninstall netcat' and then 'pkg install netcat'.  Uninstall completes
 uneventfully but then it can't reinstall:

 Creating Plan -
 pkg install: The requested change to the system attempts to install multiple 
 actions
 for legacy 'SUNWftpr' with conflicting attributes:

 1 package delivers 'legacy category=system desc=FTP Server Configuration 
 Files hotline=Please contact your local service provider na me=FTP 
 Server, (Root) pkg=SUNWftpr vendor=Project OpenIndiana 
 version=11.11,REV=2009.11.11':
 
 pkg://openindiana.org/service/network/ftp@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130305T144949Z
 1 package delivers 'legacy category=system desc=FTP Server Configuration 
 Files hotline=Please contact your local service provider na me=FTP 
 Server, (Root) pkg=SUNWftpr vendor=Illumos version=11.11,REV=2009.11.11':
 pkg://openindiana.org/SUNWcs@0.5.11,5.11-0.151.1.8.1:20130619T222328Z

 These packages may not be installed together.  Any non-conflicting set may
 be, or the packages must be corrected before they can be installed.


 Chad


 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:44:50AM +0100, Andrzej Szeszo wrote:
 There was a short period when /hipster repo was broken a little bit.
 Are you still having the same problem?

 Andrzej

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Re: [oi-dev] illumos

2013-06-21 Thread Jonathan Adams
On 21 June 2013 08:18, Saso Kiselkov skiselkov...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 21/06/2013 07:52, Jean-Pierre wrote:
  I have yet to identify where is the value added to the kernel
  itself,

 See https://www.illumos.org/projects/illumos-gate/activity for just some
 of the stuff within the last 1 month.


Please also note that Oracle cannot use code changes contributed to Illumos
and keep their source code hidden.  The developers at Oracle have been told
not to look at this project _at all_ because of this so improvements that
happen in the Illumos kernel (Major ZFS changes including a major new
compression algorithm, KVM host ability, etc) cannot go into the Solaris
kernel. Any changes that happen to Solaris have to happen independently.

Jon
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