Re: [oi-dev] Xnv_161 JDS updates

2013-07-22 Thread Nikola M.
On 07/22/13 07:00 AM, Milan Jurik wrote:
 Hi,

 On po, 2013-07-22 at 06:31 +0200, Nikola M. wrote:
 On 07/19/13 09:28 AM, Nikola M. wrote:

 On 07/18/13 06:47 PM, ken mays wrote:


 Hello,


 Please update your systems for test and review of Milan Jurik's
 JDS update:


 1. /hipster (= 07-18-2013 edition)
 2. JDS (07-15-2013
 edition, http://pkg.opensolaris.cz/osol/en/index.shtml)
 This is so great, I feel so good knowing that things get updated. :)
 (I added again JDS publisher, this time on top of Hipster, using
 'pfexec pkg set-publisher --non-sticky -O
 http://pkg.opensolaris.cz/osol/ jds.openindiana.org)'
 Ok, upgrading from 151a7 to new JDS now does not work for me.

 Milan, can you check updating from 151a7 to JDS without Hipster, it
 seems like it is not working here. (worked on Hipster few weeks ago).

 no big surprise, JDS on opensolaris.cz is built on top of dev-test, not
 a7.

 You have to look at verbose update to see what is broken.

 Milan
Oh, wow. I didn't know /dev-test exists till now.
a7 does not give any info on pkg update -v after adding JDS.

I guess ken mays was thinking of /dev-test for testing JDS, then.
N.


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Re: [oi-dev] Xnv_161 JDS updates

2013-07-22 Thread Nikola M.
On 07/22/13 06:25 AM, Nikola M. wrote:
 On 07/22/13 12:32 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:
 Okay, I've upgraded to /hipster as of 21-jul ~ 10pm ish

 gnome-wm still fails for me ... maybe I'm doing something wrong.

 gnome-wm --replace in a terminal gives:

 gtk-window-decorator: Screen 0 on display :0.0 already has a
 decoration manager; try using the --replace option to replace the
 current decoration manager.
 Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
 Core dumped sounds like the unfortunate benefit of upgrading from
 zlib 1.2.3 to 1.2.8 without testing of any kind...
 Try booting from old BE of 151a7 (and keep it for direct upgrade in the
 future)
 and setting pfexec pkg freeze pkg:/library/zlib@1.2.3 . and then
 update keeping zlib at that version.
 I don't know how to directly downgrade zlib to older version without
 old BE and freezing,
 but I know changes need to be tested before going into the Hipster.

Nevermind this, seems like like newest Hipster update comes with zlib
1.2.8 that is fixed for this kind of problems with dumping core
(https://www.illumos.org/issues/3896) (-O2)

Jonathan Adams:
Try updating hipster and see if problems are gone.
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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Garrett D'Amore garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote:

  CDDL should not contain changes to itself, nor additional copyright
  notices of any kind.

 Its inappropriate (and in violation of the license terms) to modify the CDDL 
 license or boilerplate on code that you are not the sole author of.  That 
 boiler plate has *nothing* to do do with the copyright notices, except that 
 without a copyright notice, it becomes impossible to verify *ownership* of 
 the contribution, which is vital.

I am not sure what you understand by boilerplate, but I believe that people 
usually understand by boilerplate the copyright notice that is typically at the 
beginning of a file.

It is of course apropriate to change the boilerplate, in special as Sun agreed 
with the community to put CDDL version 1.0 only in that text and this text 
was 
later mofified to read any CDDL version...

Now that Sun was sold to Oracle and Oracle stopped contributing to the project, 
we need to be very careful and I thus strongly recommend to change the CDDL 
boilerplate to again contain CDDL version 1.0 only in case someone edited a 
file. Without doing that, Oracle could in theory create a CDDL-1.x or a CDDL-2.x
that says everything could be used by Oracle as closed source.

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Re: [oi-dev] Another hipster zlib/gcrypt issue?

2013-07-22 Thread David Höppner
Looks like SHA224 is missing from libgcrypt. I try to solve it.

-- David


On 22 July 2013 12:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:
 My personal build of AIDE (Intrusion detection program) stopped running.
 When I tried to build again (static linkage), configure dies when it hits
 zlib and says that it can't find deflate(). Configuring for dynamic linkage
 works for the git head (not the last official release with gcc 4.7 because
 of missing definitions like off_t) and builds fine.  When it runs it
 complains:

 DBG: md_enable: algorithm 7 not available

 which sounds more like a gcrypt issue.  Anyone see this before?

 Gary


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Re: [oi-dev] Another hipster zlib/gcrypt issue?

2013-07-22 Thread David Höppner
On 22 July 2013 12:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:
 of missing definitions like off_t) and builds fine.  When it runs it
 complains:

 DBG: md_enable: algorithm 7 not available

Sorry, mixed up the numbers looked at 11.

GCRY_MD_TIGER   = 6,   /* TIGER/192 as used by gpg = 1.3.2. */
GCRY_MD_HAVAL   = 7,   /* HAVAL, 5 pass, 160 bit. */
GCRY_MD_SHA256  = 8,
GCRY_MD_SHA384  = 9,
GCRY_MD_SHA512  = 10,
GCRY_MD_SHA224  = 11,

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Re: [oi-dev] Xnv_161 JDS updates

2013-07-22 Thread Jonathan Adams
unless the update is in the RPM package, I don't think updating it now will
fix it ...

the changes may not have made their way into the system yet though, so I
will try again later.

root@jadlaptop:~# pkg publisher
PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS   URI
jds.openindiana.org   origin   online
http://opensolaris.cz:1/
openindiana.org   origin   online
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/
sfe-encumberedorigin   online
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe-encumbered/
sfe  (non-sticky) origin   online
http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/
localhost(non-sticky, disabled) origin   online
http://localhost:1/

root@jadlaptop:~# pkg update -v | tee jul-22-update.log
Packages to update: 1
 Estimated space available:  13.09 GB
Estimated space to be consumed: 154.35 MB
   Create boot environment:No
Create backup boot environment:   Yes
  Rebuild boot archive:No

Changed packages:
openindiana.org
  package/rpm
0.5.11,5.11-0.151.1.8.1:20130721T121727Z -
0.5.11,5.11-0.151.1.8.1:20130722T124104Z
Update Phase ...  Done
Package State Update Phase ...  Done
Package Cache Update Phase ...  Done
Image State Update Phase ...  Done
Reading Existing Index ...  Done
Indexing Packages ...  Done

---
NOTE: Please review release notes posted at:

http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Release+Notes
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On 22 July 2013 07:52, Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 07/22/13 06:25 AM, Nikola M. wrote:
  On 07/22/13 12:32 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote:
  Okay, I've upgraded to /hipster as of 21-jul ~ 10pm ish
 
  gnome-wm still fails for me ... maybe I'm doing something wrong.
 
  gnome-wm --replace in a terminal gives:
 
  gtk-window-decorator: Screen 0 on display :0.0 already has a
  decoration manager; try using the --replace option to replace the
  current decoration manager.
  Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
  Core dumped sounds like the unfortunate benefit of upgrading from
  zlib 1.2.3 to 1.2.8 without testing of any kind...
  Try booting from old BE of 151a7 (and keep it for direct upgrade in the
  future)
  and setting pfexec pkg freeze pkg:/library/zlib@1.2.3 . and then
  update keeping zlib at that version.
  I don't know how to directly downgrade zlib to older version without
  old BE and freezing,
  but I know changes need to be tested before going into the Hipster.
 
 Nevermind this, seems like like newest Hipster update comes with zlib
 1.2.8 that is fixed for this kind of problems with dumping core (
 https://www.illumos.org/issues/3896) (-O2)

 Jonathan Adams:
 Try updating hipster and see if problems are gone.
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Re: [oi-dev] Xnv_161 JDS updates

2013-07-22 Thread Alexander Pyhalov

On 07/22/2013 02:32, Jonathan Adams wrote:

Okay, I've upgraded to /hipster as of 21-jul ~ 10pm ish

gnome-wm still fails for me ... maybe I'm doing something wrong.

gnome-wm --replace in a terminal gives:


gnome-wm doesn't pass --replace option to the actual window manager. 
What are you trying to do?



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Re: [oi-dev] xchat, Firefox dumps core, OI logo xlock broken, last 2 hipster updates

2013-07-22 Thread Nikola M.
On 07/21/13 10:22 PM, a...@sfedu.ru wrote:
 I've tried with FF 10 coming with /hipster and Adobe Flash 10.1r85.3
 (it was a version Jon Tibble advised in oi-discuss).
 It worked, didn't crash, but was extremely slow (tried to watch vimeo
 - it was hardly possible).
 Perhaps, it's related to VirtualBox environment, I don't know.
 What exact version do you use?
Hi, can you please answer blow quotes on public list, thanks a lot.

Latest Flash for Solaris x86 is 11.2 r202
It works just fine up to OI /dev 151a7 , and is crashing in Hipster from
the start.
I am yet to test /dev-test+JDS.
I am on hardware (C2Duo, i945),
Flash is not very performant but it was running much better for youtube
videos, then HTML5.

I also think that making Flash working again is most important.
If needed I could try older Flash, but I guess that is not the final goal.


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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith

On 07/22/13 07:30 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:

unless it had explicit approval to do so from any joint contributors.


Remember the terms of the Sun Contributor Agreement granted Sun co-ownership
and the right to release the code under any license of Sun's choosing, such
as a proprietary license in any Solaris 10 backport.

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Re: [oi-dev] libtool update

2013-07-22 Thread David Höppner
On 21 July 2013 13:15, Alexander Pyhalov a...@rsu.ru wrote:

 It is installed:

 $ pkg list |grep automake
 developer/build/automake  1.11.2-0.151.1.8.1 i--
 developer/build/automake-110  1.10-0.151.1.8.1   i--
 developer/build/automake-111  1.11.2-0.151.1.8.1 i--
 developer/build/automake-19   1.9.6-0.151.1.8i--

 I'm just a bit worried about testing.

Strange, maybe automake-110 was installed later. From the log:

autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf --force
autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoheader --force
autoreconf: running: automake --add-missing --copy --force-missing
configure.ac:130: require Automake 1.11.1, but have 1.10
autom4te: closing standard output: Broken pipe
autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1
gmake[2]: *** 
[/data/jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/libtool/libtool-2.4.2/.prep]
Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/data/jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/libtool'

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Re: [oi-dev] Another hipster zlib/gcrypt issue?

2013-07-22 Thread David Höppner
On 22 July 2013 12:39, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote:
 My personal build of AIDE (Intrusion detection program) stopped running.
 When I tried to build again (static linkage), configure dies when it hits
 zlib and says that it can't find deflate().

Can't see a static version in the zlib package.

 Configuring for dynamic linkage
 works for the git head (not the last official release with gcc 4.7 because
 of missing definitions like off_t) and builds fine.  When it runs it
 complains:

 DBG: md_enable: algorithm 7 not available

 which sounds more like a gcrypt issue.  Anyone see this before?

libgcrypt has no implementation of HAVAL. I pushed libmhash to hipster.

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Garrett D'Amore

On Jul 22, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:

 On 2013-07-22 17:59, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
 
 On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com 
 wrote:
 
 On 07/22/13 07:30 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
 unless it had explicit approval to do so from any joint contributors.
 
 Remember the terms of the Sun Contributor Agreement granted Sun co-ownership
 and the right to release the code under any license of Sun's choosing, such
 as a proprietary license in any Solaris 10 backport.
 
 Oh right.  The SCA.  Damn, forgot about that!
 
 Would I be wrong to assume that this was in place for OpenSolaris code
 (and indeed Oracle closed up their Solaris), while the new illumos
 contributors did not sign an SCA with Sun and thus are not subject to
 its terms? Did the (ex-)Sun/Oracle employees, including those currently
 active in illumos community, sign it? Even if yes, does it hold valid
 for post-split codebase?

I think this needs a lawyer to answer.  My feeling is that even for those of 
who did sign the SCA (I did), I think it would be difficult for Oracle to state 
that contributions to illumos constitute contributions to OpenSolaris and are 
therefore subject to the SCA.  If they did, I'd be willing to go to court to 
fight that.

- Garrett



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[oi-dev] subversion update

2013-07-22 Thread Alexander Pyhalov

Hello.
I have updated subversion
https://github.com/pyhalov/oi-userland/compare/subversion

Two notable things:
1) This upgrade removes perl 5.10 subversion component ( 
library/perl-5/subversion). subversion component doesn't support perl 
versioning, so we ship only perl 5.16 subversion modules (in 
library/perl-5/subversion).


2) svn repositories should be upgraded to work with this version.

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith

On 07/22/13 09:19 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

Well, the CDDL does not mention unmodifyable parts,


http://opensource.org/licenses/CDDL-1.0 section 3.3:

   You must include a notice in each of Your Modifications that identifies
   You as the Contributor of the Modification. You may not remove or alter
   any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered
   Software, or any notices of licensing or any descriptive text giving
   attribution to any Contributor or the Initial Developer.

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:

 Would I be wrong to assume that this was in place for OpenSolaris code
 (and indeed Oracle closed up their Solaris), while the new illumos
 contributors did not sign an SCA with Sun and thus are not subject to
 its terms? Did the (ex-)Sun/Oracle employees, including those currently
 active in illumos community, sign it? Even if yes, does it hold valid
 for post-split codebase?

BTW: Sun was not very effective with their attempt to get a signed SCA.

The Joliet and ISO-9660:1999 extensions in hsfs have been written by me and 
added to OpenSolaris without a written SCA.

As a result, Oracle cannot legally distribute hsfs as closed source...

Jörg

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Adam Števko
Hi guys,

I will be removing copyright templates with old CCDL with the illumos one in 
oi-userland. This will cause that running make sample-manifest will generate 
p5m with current licensing. Other packages should get changed to the newer one, 
but keeping Oracle copyright. However, I am not entirely sure if we can change 
the license.. anyone on this?

Cheers,
Adam

On Jul 22, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Joerg Schilling 
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:

 Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
 
 On 07/22/13 09:19 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Well, the CDDL does not mention unmodifyable parts,
 
 http://opensource.org/licenses/CDDL-1.0 section 3.3:
 
You must include a notice in each of Your Modifications that identifies
You as the Contributor of the Modification. You may not remove or alter
any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered
Software, or any notices of licensing or any descriptive text giving
attribution to any Contributor or the Initial Developer.
 
 But this does not cover the CDDL template text...
 
 ...anyway, this template text needs a change in any case as opensolaris.org 
 is 
 no longer existent. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing does not 
 reproduce 
 the license text.
 
 Jörg
 
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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:

 On 07/22/13 09:19 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
  Well, the CDDL does not mention unmodifyable parts,

 http://opensource.org/licenses/CDDL-1.0 section 3.3:

 You must include a notice in each of Your Modifications that identifies
 You as the Contributor of the Modification. You may not remove or alter
 any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered
 Software, or any notices of licensing or any descriptive text giving
 attribution to any Contributor or the Initial Developer.

But this does not cover the CDDL template text...

...anyway, this template text needs a change in any case as opensolaris.org is 
no longer existent. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing does not reproduce 
the license text.

Jörg

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Adam Števko
Basically, moving this into the oi-userland transforms dir - 
https://hg.openindiana.org/users/xenol/oi-build/file/3e7752f531e1/transforms/manifest-metadata-template
 and also modifying 
https://hg.openindiana.org/users/xenol/oi-build/file/3e7752f531e1/transforms/copyright-template
 this to contain illumos CDDL.

Adam


On Jul 22, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Joerg Schilling 
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:

 Adam ?tevko adam.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I will be removing copyright templates with old CCDL with the illumos one in 
 oi-userland. This will cause that running make sample-manifest will generate 
 p5m with current licensing. Other packages should get changed to the newer 
 one, but keeping Oracle copyright. However, I am not entirely sure if we can 
 change the license.. anyone on this?
 
 You cannot change the license.
 
 BTW: What kind of license change do you have in mind?
 
 Jörg
 
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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Adam ?tevko adam.ste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Basically, moving this into the oi-userland transforms dir - 
 https://hg.openindiana.org/users/xenol/oi-build/file/3e7752f531e1/transforms/manifest-metadata-template
  and also modifying 
 https://hg.openindiana.org/users/xenol/oi-build/file/3e7752f531e1/transforms/copyright-template
  this to contain illumos CDDL.

Doing this in general does not look OK.

In special if you did not change content...

Jörg

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Garrett D'Amore
The prototypes follow this (the following is the file usr/src/prototypes/README 
in illumos-gate):

To ensure that everyone can use the same boilerplate text without triggering
copyright ownership because of the boilerplate itself, I hereby place the
following text in the public domain, which should be used to reference the
CDDL version 1.0 for each new file introduced in illumos.

- Garrett D'Amore

/*
 * This file and its contents are supplied under the terms of the
 * Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0.
 * You may only use this file in accordance with the terms version
 * 1.0 of the CDDL.
 *
 * A full copy of the text of the CDDL should have accompanied this
 * source.  A copy of the CDDL is also available via the Internet at
 * http://www.illumos.org/license/CDDL.
 */

/*
 * Copyright 2012 contributor.  All rights reserved.
 */


On Jul 22, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Joerg Schilling 
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:

 Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
 
 On 07/22/13 09:19 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Well, the CDDL does not mention unmodifyable parts,
 
 http://opensource.org/licenses/CDDL-1.0 section 3.3:
 
You must include a notice in each of Your Modifications that identifies
You as the Contributor of the Modification. You may not remove or alter
any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered
Software, or any notices of licensing or any descriptive text giving
attribution to any Contributor or the Initial Developer.
 
 But this does not cover the CDDL template text...
 
 ...anyway, this template text needs a change in any case as opensolaris.org 
 is 
 no longer existent. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing does not 
 reproduce 
 the license text.
 
 Jörg
 
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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Adam Števko
Garret,

but is legal for us to change that stuff in oi-userland? I personally don't see 
any reasons why I shouldn't, but I am not a lawyer, so I am asking as you two 
seem to know more than me..

Adam

On Jul 22, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Garrett D'Amore garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote:

 The prototypes follow this (the following is the file 
 usr/src/prototypes/README in illumos-gate):
 
 To ensure that everyone can use the same boilerplate text without triggering
 copyright ownership because of the boilerplate itself, I hereby place the
 following text in the public domain, which should be used to reference the
 CDDL version 1.0 for each new file introduced in illumos.
 
- Garrett D'Amore
 
 /*
 * This file and its contents are supplied under the terms of the
 * Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0.
 * You may only use this file in accordance with the terms version
 * 1.0 of the CDDL.
 *
 * A full copy of the text of the CDDL should have accompanied this
 * source.  A copy of the CDDL is also available via the Internet at
 * http://www.illumos.org/license/CDDL.
 */
 
 /*
 * Copyright 2012 contributor.  All rights reserved.
 */
 
 
 On Jul 22, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Joerg Schilling 
 joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote:
 
 Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:
 
 On 07/22/13 09:19 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Well, the CDDL does not mention unmodifyable parts,
 
 http://opensource.org/licenses/CDDL-1.0 section 3.3:
 
   You must include a notice in each of Your Modifications that identifies
   You as the Contributor of the Modification. You may not remove or alter
   any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered
   Software, or any notices of licensing or any descriptive text giving
   attribution to any Contributor or the Initial Developer.
 
 But this does not cover the CDDL template text...
 
 ...anyway, this template text needs a change in any case as opensolaris.org 
 is 
 no longer existent. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing does not 
 reproduce 
 the license text.
 
 Jörg
 
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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Garrett D'Amore garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote:

 The prototypes follow this (the following is the file 
 usr/src/prototypes/README in illumos-gate):

 To ensure that everyone can use the same boilerplate text without triggering
 copyright ownership because of the boilerplate itself, I hereby place the
 following text in the public domain, which should be used to reference the
 CDDL version 1.0 for each new file introduced in illumos.

 - Garrett D'Amore

 /*
  * This file and its contents are supplied under the terms of the
  * Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0.
  * You may only use this file in accordance with the terms version
  * 1.0 of the CDDL.
  *
  * A full copy of the text of the CDDL should have accompanied this
  * source.  A copy of the CDDL is also available via the Internet at
  * http://www.illumos.org/license/CDDL.
  */

 /*
  * Copyright 2012 contributor.  All rights reserved.
  */


Schillix-ON uses this:

/*
 * This file and its contents are supplied under the terms of the
 * Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0.
 * You may only use this file in accordance with the terms of version
 * 1.0 of the CDDL.
 *
 * A full copy of the text of the CDDL should have accompanied this
 * source.  A copy of the CDDL is also available via the Internet at
 * http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cddl1.txt
 */

/*
 * Copyright 2011 contributor.  All rights reserved.
 */

I believe it is better to refer to a neutral entity such as opensource.org.

Jörg

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Adam ?tevko adam.ste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Garret,

 but is legal for us to change that stuff in oi-userland? I personally don't 
 see any reasons why I shouldn't, but I am not a lawyer, so I am asking as you 
 two seem to know more than me..

I am not sure if I understand you correctly.

If you modify a file, I would recommend to modify the CDDL header to point to 
something neutral that still exists. This is why I use 

http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cddl1.txt

If you like to be sure, I also recommend to mention CDDl version 1.0 only.
If you don't change files, I do not recommend such a change.


Jörg

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Re: [oi-dev] Copyright for contributors - not in files, OI branded zones, binary compatibility

2013-07-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith

On 07/22/13 12:10 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote:


On 07/22/13 09:19 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

Well, the CDDL does not mention unmodifyable parts,


http://opensource.org/licenses/CDDL-1.0 section 3.3:

 You must include a notice in each of Your Modifications that identifies
 You as the Contributor of the Modification. You may not remove or alter
 any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered
 Software, or any notices of licensing or any descriptive text giving
 attribution to any Contributor or the Initial Developer.


But this does not cover the CDDL template text...


The CDDL template text sounds like any notices of licensing to me - but I'm
neither a lawyer nor a corporate spokesman, so I can't say definitively.


...anyway, this template text needs a change in any case as opensolaris.org is
no longer existent. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing does not reproduce
the license text.


It redirects to https://solaris.java.net/ which has a License link at the
top which provides the CDDL text.

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