[oi-dev] LibreOffice: librevenge, libodfgen, libwpd, libwpg

2015-07-27 Thread Aurélien Larcher
Hi,
I submitted the PRs for the aforementioned libraries compiled in 32bit only
as LibreOffice will certainly be their only consumer: they can be added as
64bit later on if needed.

The Wiki was updated accordingly: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/LibreOffice

If someone wants to contribute one of the remaining libs please drop me a
line.
Best

Aurelien
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[oi-dev] Hipster News 2015W31: First issue !

2015-07-27 Thread Aurélien Larcher
Hello,
this message is the first instance of the Hipster News Bi-weekly.

Every two weeks, we will try to give a comprehensive overview of the recent
progress:

- developments,
- new and updated packages,
- current known issues,
- works-in-progress and future goals.

This will hopefully allow you to get better understanding of the current
activity and give you the opportunity to provide insights and feedback.
We will also post these news to a blog entry (yet to be defined).

There has been a lot of activity in the past weeks in oi-userland [1],
summarized below: most notable being the encumbered repository.



1. Hipster encumbered repository

The encumbered repository for Hipster [2] was created to provide multimedia
software which used to be part of sfe-encumbered.
As a first step ffmpeg 2.7.2 and dependencies were added.

You can find a list of components which ought to be added in the coming
weeks, on the Wiki page [3].

Contributing new components is as easy as:

- forking + cloning the oi-userland repository,
- copying one subdirectory of components/encumbered to get started,
- modify the Makefile and add patches if necessary such that ‘gmake
install’ succeeds,
- generating a manifest with ‘gmake sample-manifest’ and modifying it if
necessary,
- creating a pull-request.



2. Summary of oi-userland activity

Additions:

- encumbered: ffmpeg 2.7.2 + dependent libraries
- openal 1.16.0
- bullet 2.83
- inkscape 0.48.5

Updates:

- Apache 2.4.16
- Lighttpd 1.4.36
- Perl 5.22 (in progress)
- PHP 5.5.27, 5.4.43
- freetype 2.5.5
- libdrm to 2.4.62
- nodejs 0.12.7
- several X11 components and libraries, in sync with x-s12-clone
- Boost 1.58 with MPI support
- Compiz Fusion 8.10

Deprecations:

- Apache 1.3
- MySQL 5.1
- Perl 5.10 (see Heads-up below !)

Current goals:

- add GTK3: requires atk, gobject-introspection update first
- port of LibreOffice 4.4.x: warm thanks to Apostolos Syroupolos for
contributing the librevenge component, any help is appreciated ! [4]
- update Pulseaudio to 6.0: in progress
- add more components to hipster-encumbered, priority being VLC and
gstreamer bad/ugly codecs



 3. Heads-up: Perl 5.10 deprecation

Removal of Perl 5.10 means that default illumos.sh will not work any longer
and you need to add :

 export PERL_VERSION="5.22";
 export PERL_PKGVERS="-522"

to illumos.sh  while compiling illumos-gate.



Thank you for reading us !

[1] https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland
[2] http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/
[3] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Multimedia
[4] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/LibreOffice
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[oi-dev] [HEADSUP] Perl 5.22 integration in OpenIndiana Hipster

2015-07-27 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
We now have Perl 5.22 as our main Perl version. During Perl 5.22 
integration
some old packages, including Apache 1.3, MySQL 5.1 and Perl 5.10, were 
removed.


We deliver all perl 5.22 modules which were delivered for Perl 5.16 
earlier. Almost all perl 5.16 modules and Perl 5.16 are kept (the only 
removed module is graphviz perl module, which had conflicts with Perl 
5.22 module).


Removal of Apache 1.3 means that you can't longer build old illumos-gate 
versions. Luckily, illumos-gate builds nicely with Apache 2.2 since 
February.


We suggest you to use either percona-server or mariadb instead of mysql.

Removal of Perl 5.10 is more important. It was a relict inherited from 
OI /dev and still is used in OI /dev to build illumos-gate. This means 
that to build illumos-gate
1) you should have runtime/perl-522/module/sun-solaris and 
library/perl-5/xml-parser-522 installed (they will be installed 
automatically on pkg update),

2) you should set
export PERL_VERSION="5.22"
export PERL_PKGVERS="-522"

in your illumos.sh.

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Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus

2015-07-27 Thread Aurélien Larcher
Yes that was it, editor was enabled.

Aurelien

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Peter Tribble 
wrote:

> That doesn't seem right. Dconf itself doesn't need gtk3, although
> dconf-editor does.
>
> Generally I've found those parts of MATE I've used to build fairly cleanly.
>
> -Peter
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 27 Jul 2015, at 22:57, Aurélien Larcher 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> OK, that is weird because altough I built part of MATE with GTK2, there is
> a dependency to dconf which requires GTK3.
> Maybe I missed some flag.
> Best
>
> Aurelien
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:38 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Hi Aurélien,
>>
>> I actually didn't meet this issue as I partially built MATE against GTK2.
>> I supposed I assumed that building something that looks like Gnome 2
>> would be easier on a platform that supports Gnome 2 already.
>> This was my first mistake learning wisdom is a long path.
>>
>> These dependencies are related to GTK3, when I come back in September
>> I'll try to set up a GTK3 build.
>> Then, I'll see what breaks.
>>
>> Desktop wise, I was thinking would it be wiser to keep a close look to
>> what the BSD guys are doing as they have the same issue than OI which is
>> more and more dependencies on linux core features (systemd, udev,
>> authentication/authorisation mechanism,... ).
>>
>> Best regards.
>> Ben
>>
>> - Mail original -
>> De: "Aurélien Larcher" 
>> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" 
>> Envoyé: Mardi 28 Juillet 2015 02:20:24
>> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Welcome Ben !
>> I also tried to build MATE but I encountered dependency issues
>> immediately.
>> atk 2.14 would be a first target [2] but requires also building a newer
>> gobject-introspection and make sure that nothing breaks.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> Aurelien
>>
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.10+Sandbox
>> [2] https://www.illumos.org/issues/6055
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, < benta...@chez.com > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got
>> a GTK3 to build on.
>>
>> I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop.
>> GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application.
>>
>> Best regards.
>> Franck
>>
>> - Mail original -
>> De: "Alexander Pyhalov" < a...@rsu.ru >
>> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" < oi-dev@openindiana.org >
>> Cc: benta...@chez.com
>> Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09
>> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>>
>> benta...@chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07 :21:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in
>> > particular Hipster.
>> > I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an
>> > alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and
>> > started to compile Midori.
>> >
>> > Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the
>> > place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an
>> > interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but
>> > not the main modules (panel, ...)
>> >
>> > Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,)
>> >
>> > I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit)
>> > and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you.
>> > Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME
>> > 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ?
>> > Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are
>> > designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on
>> > building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ?
>>
>> Hi.
>> I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making
>> it work,
>> but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it
>> functional.
>>
>> What about GTK3, you can look at
>> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ ,
>> it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec.
>> They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you
>> can witch branches
>> int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to
>> gnome-2-30-s12
>> branch to see the specs.
>>
>> ---
>> System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus

2015-07-27 Thread Peter Tribble
That doesn't seem right. Dconf itself doesn't need gtk3, although dconf-editor 
does.

Generally I've found those parts of MATE I've used to build fairly cleanly.

-Peter

Sent from my iPad

> On 27 Jul 2015, at 22:57, Aurélien Larcher  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> OK, that is weird because altough I built part of MATE with GTK2, there is a 
> dependency to dconf which requires GTK3.
> Maybe I missed some flag.
> Best 
> 
> Aurelien
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:38 PM,  wrote:
>> Hi Aurélien,
>> 
>> I actually didn't meet this issue as I partially built MATE against GTK2.
>> I supposed I assumed that building something that looks like Gnome 2 would 
>> be easier on a platform that supports Gnome 2 already.
>> This was my first mistake learning wisdom is a long path.
>> 
>> These dependencies are related to GTK3, when I come back in September I'll 
>> try to set up a GTK3 build.
>> Then, I'll see what breaks.
>> 
>> Desktop wise, I was thinking would it be wiser to keep a close look to what 
>> the BSD guys are doing as they have the same issue than OI which is more and 
>> more dependencies on linux core features (systemd, udev, 
>> authentication/authorisation mechanism,... ).
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Ben
>> 
>> - Mail original -
>> De: "Aurélien Larcher" 
>> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" 
>> Envoyé: Mardi 28 Juillet 2015 02:20:24
>> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Welcome Ben !
>> I also tried to build MATE but I encountered dependency issues immediately.
>> atk 2.14 would be a first target [2] but requires also building a newer 
>> gobject-introspection and make sure that nothing breaks.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> 
>> Aurelien
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.10+Sandbox
>> [2] https://www.illumos.org/issues/6055
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, < benta...@chez.com > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got a 
>> GTK3 to build on.
>> 
>> I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop.
>> GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application.
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Franck
>> 
>> - Mail original -
>> De: "Alexander Pyhalov" < a...@rsu.ru >
>> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" < oi-dev@openindiana.org >
>> Cc: benta...@chez.com
>> Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09
>> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>> 
>> benta...@chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07 :21:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in
>> > particular Hipster.
>> > I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an
>> > alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and
>> > started to compile Midori.
>> >
>> > Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the
>> > place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an
>> > interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but
>> > not the main modules (panel, ...)
>> >
>> > Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,)
>> >
>> > I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit)
>> > and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you.
>> > Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME
>> > 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ?
>> > Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are
>> > designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on
>> > building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ?
>> 
>> Hi.
>> I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making
>> it work,
>> but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it
>> functional.
>> 
>> What about GTK3, you can look at
>> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ ,
>> it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec.
>> They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you
>> can witch branches
>> int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to
>> gnome-2-30-s12
>> branch to see the specs.
>> 
>> ---
>> System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus

2015-07-27 Thread Aurélien Larcher
Hi,
OK, that is weird because altough I built part of MATE with GTK2, there is
a dependency to dconf which requires GTK3.
Maybe I missed some flag.
Best

Aurelien


On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:38 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Aurélien,
>
> I actually didn't meet this issue as I partially built MATE against GTK2.
> I supposed I assumed that building something that looks like Gnome 2 would
> be easier on a platform that supports Gnome 2 already.
> This was my first mistake learning wisdom is a long path.
>
> These dependencies are related to GTK3, when I come back in September I'll
> try to set up a GTK3 build.
> Then, I'll see what breaks.
>
> Desktop wise, I was thinking would it be wiser to keep a close look to
> what the BSD guys are doing as they have the same issue than OI which is
> more and more dependencies on linux core features (systemd, udev,
> authentication/authorisation mechanism,... ).
>
> Best regards.
> Ben
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Aurélien Larcher" 
> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" 
> Envoyé: Mardi 28 Juillet 2015 02:20:24
> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Welcome Ben !
> I also tried to build MATE but I encountered dependency issues immediately.
> atk 2.14 would be a first target [2] but requires also building a newer
> gobject-introspection and make sure that nothing breaks.
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Aurelien
>
>
> [1] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.10+Sandbox
> [2] https://www.illumos.org/issues/6055
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, < benta...@chez.com > wrote:
>
>
> Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got
> a GTK3 to build on.
>
> I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop.
> GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application.
>
> Best regards.
> Franck
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Alexander Pyhalov" < a...@rsu.ru >
> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" < oi-dev@openindiana.org >
> Cc: benta...@chez.com
> Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09
> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>
> benta...@chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07 :21:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in
> > particular Hipster.
> > I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an
> > alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and
> > started to compile Midori.
> >
> > Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the
> > place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an
> > interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but
> > not the main modules (panel, ...)
> >
> > Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,)
> >
> > I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit)
> > and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you.
> > Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME
> > 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ?
> > Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are
> > designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on
> > building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ?
>
> Hi.
> I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making
> it work,
> but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it
> functional.
>
> What about GTK3, you can look at
> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ ,
> it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec.
> They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you
> can witch branches
> int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to
> gnome-2-30-s12
> branch to see the specs.
>
> ---
> System Administrator of Southern Federal University Computer Center
>
>
>
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Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus

2015-07-27 Thread bentahyr
Hi Aurélien,

I actually didn't meet this issue as I partially built MATE against GTK2.
I supposed I assumed that building something that looks like Gnome 2 would be 
easier on a platform that supports Gnome 2 already.
This was my first mistake learning wisdom is a long path.

These dependencies are related to GTK3, when I come back in September I'll try 
to set up a GTK3 build.
Then, I'll see what breaks.

Desktop wise, I was thinking would it be wiser to keep a close look to what the 
BSD guys are doing as they have the same issue than OI which is more and more 
dependencies on linux core features (systemd, udev, 
authentication/authorisation mechanism,... ).

Best regards.
Ben

- Mail original -
De: "Aurélien Larcher" 
À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" 
Envoyé: Mardi 28 Juillet 2015 02:20:24
Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus






Hello, 

Welcome Ben ! 
I also tried to build MATE but I encountered dependency issues immediately. 
atk 2.14 would be a first target [2] but requires also building a newer 
gobject-introspection and make sure that nothing breaks. 

Best regards 


Aurelien 


[1] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.10+Sandbox 
[2] https://www.illumos.org/issues/6055 







On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, < benta...@chez.com > wrote: 


Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got a 
GTK3 to build on. 

I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop. 
GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application. 

Best regards. 
Franck 

- Mail original - 
De: "Alexander Pyhalov" < a...@rsu.ru > 
À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" < oi-dev@openindiana.org > 
Cc: benta...@chez.com 
Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09 
Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus 

benta...@chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07 :21: 
> Hi, 
> 
> I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in 
> particular Hipster. 
> I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an 
> alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and 
> started to compile Midori. 
> 
> Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the 
> place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an 
> interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but 
> not the main modules (panel, ...) 
> 
> Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,) 
> 
> I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit) 
> and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you. 
> Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME 
> 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ? 
> Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are 
> designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on 
> building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ? 

Hi. 
I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making 
it work, 
but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it 
functional. 

What about GTK3, you can look at 
https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ , 
it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec. 
They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you 
can witch branches 
int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to 
gnome-2-30-s12 
branch to see the specs. 

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Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus

2015-07-27 Thread Aurélien Larcher
Hello,
Welcome Ben !
I also tried to build MATE but I encountered dependency issues immediately.
atk 2.14 would be a first target [2] but requires also building a newer
gobject-introspection and make sure that nothing breaks.
Best regards

Aurelien

[1] http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/MATE+1.10+Sandbox
[2] https://www.illumos.org/issues/6055



On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM,  wrote:

> Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got
> a GTK3 to build on.
>
> I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop.
> GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application.
>
> Best regards.
> Franck
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Alexander Pyhalov" 
> À: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" 
> Cc: benta...@chez.com
> Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09
> Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus
>
> benta...@chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07:21:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in
> > particular Hipster.
> > I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an
> > alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and
> > started to compile Midori.
> >
> > Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the
> > place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an
> > interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but
> > not the main modules (panel, ...)
> >
> > Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,)
> >
> > I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit)
> > and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you.
> > Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME
> > 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ?
> > Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are
> > designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on
> > building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ?
>
> Hi.
> I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making
> it work,
> but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it
> functional.
>
> What about GTK3, you can look at
> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ ,
> it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec.
> They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you
> can witch branches
> int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to
> gnome-2-30-s12
> branch to see the specs.
>
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Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus

2015-07-27 Thread bentahyr
Having GTK3 spec files are a good news. I'll focus on that then so we got a 
GTK3 to build on.

I'll leave MATE aside for the moment as we have a working desktop.
GTK3 will open more option to desktops alternative or application.

Best regards.
Franck

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De: "Alexander Pyhalov" 
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Cc: benta...@chez.com
Envoyé: Lundi 27 Juillet 2015 17:17:09
Objet: Re: [oi-dev] Effort focus

benta...@chez.com писал 27.07.2015 07:21:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been trying for the last 2 month to get some updates to OI in
> particular Hipster.
> I tried to update the DE by compiling MATE, then I tried to get an
> alternative browser to work copnsidering the issue with Firefox and
> started to compile Midori.
> 
> Of course, MATE is a hell to compile as it is fragmented all over the
> place with each modules having its on dependencies. But I reach an
> interesting point where quite a lot of application were compile but
> not the main modules (panel, ...)
> 
> Midori is hard on dependencies as well (GTK+3 <- Glib <- automake,)
> 
> I have a very limited time to dedicate (and skills, I have to admit)
> and would like to make the best out of it so I ask you.
> Does it make sense to try to get MATE up and running to replace GNOME
> 2, or get another type desktop, or keep the current one ?
> Midori has already moved to GTK+3 and more and more applications are
> designed on top of it, does it make sense to focus the effort on
> building a functionnal GTK+3 on OI as a starting point ?

Hi.
I think that MATE would be a valuable thing, and it worth to try making 
it work,
but you can underestimate the work wich is necessary to make it 
functional.

What about GTK3, you can look at 
https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/ ,
it has base-specs/gtk3.spec, SUNWgtk3.spec and SUNWgtk3-engines.spec.
They are a valuable starting point. Note, that I couldn't find when you 
can witch branches
int web ui, perhaps you'll have to clone the repo and switch manually to 
gnome-2-30-s12
branch to see the specs.

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