Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Aurélien Larcher писал 17.08.2016 00:11:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Michael Kruger 
 wrote:

On 08/16/16 03:50 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:


Now checked on a real desktop (Asus P6T/X58/Core i7 980X/Quadro FX
1800), and all is working correctly... no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.



I am seeing this alsoit occurs when playing either audio or video 
in

firefox.
In fact, Firefox does not even show up as an active application in the 
sound

preferences applet (accessed by right clicking the system tray speaker
icon).


Firefox does not use pulseaudio but OSS directly.


You can control it if you select in volume properties audiohd#0 
directly.
BTW, does someone know why pulseaudio is disabled during FF build in 
userland-gate?

Will try to rebuild it with "--enable-pulseaudio"...

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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Udo Grabowski (IMK) писал 16.08.2016 22:50:


no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.


Could you describe in more details steps to reproduce the issue?


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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 16/08/2016 18:20, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/16/16 07:07 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:



We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
(in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...


Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if
there are any
messages in ~/.xsession-errors?


ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not
starting
correctly; if jack has an empty password


It's jack/jack

These two lines are bad...



Connection failure: Connection refused



The program caja received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
minor_code 0)


If I new what connection is refused...  The closest thing I find is
https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=55441 , but this looks strange.
Will look if we can reproduce this locally.



Now checked on a real desktop (Asus P6T/X58/Core i7 980X/Quadro FX
1800), and all is working correctly... no, wait, sound volume cannot
be changed after fiddling with the sound control settings, no
way to set volume with any controls anymore, no way to set volume
html5 youtube video, etc. Something is broken there.
Otherwise seemingly working, performance of Youtube videos even
in 4k is decent, better than with Flash. The first firefox version
where HTML5 video stuff is implemented correctly with all functions
actually working.

So the qemu-kvm failure is specific to using a virtual machine instead
of a real one.




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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

ken mays via oi-dev писал 16.08.2016 20:18:

Alex,
I'm using the latest MATE Live-DVD ISO.
Not having as many problems 'yet' - but the key things from my point 
are:

1. Murrine GTK+ Cairo Engine is missing. Certain appearance themes
don't look correctly without it (i.e. almost any theme thumbnail with
the MATE symbol on it).Ref:
https://download.gnome.org/sources/murrine/0.98/


Will look at it.


2. Support for NTFS/exFAT-formatted storage USB devices. We can do
this by including the Tuxera NTFS/exFAT and/or FOSS fuse support.


We have system/file-system/ntfsprogs with fuse support.



3. Boot menu still reads '2016.04'


We are still 2016.04

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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[ken mays via oi-dev]

Alex,
I'm using the latest MATE Live-DVD ISO.
Not having as many problems 'yet' - but the key things from my point are:
1. Murrine GTK+ Cairo Engine is missing. Certain appearance themes don't look 
correctly without it (i.e. almost any theme thumbnail with the MATE symbol on 
it).Ref: https://download.gnome.org/sources/murrine/0.98/
2. Support for NTFS/exFAT-formatted storage USB devices. We can do this by 
including the Tuxera NTFS/exFAT and/or FOSS fuse support.

3. Boot menu still reads '2016.04'
Then, focus on VMware/Virtualbox support issues.
Thanks,Ken


 

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 9:21 AM, Alexander Pyhalov  wrote:
 

 On 08/16/16 07:07 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
> On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>>
 We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
 snapshot
 (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
 are enough.
 We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
 (in 2017).

 Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
 needs,
 then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).
>>>
>>> Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
>>> in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
>>> mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...
>>
>> Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if
>> there are any
>> messages in ~/.xsession-errors?
>
> ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not
> starting
> correctly; if jack has an empty password

It's jack/jack

These two lines are bad...


> Connection failure: Connection refused

> The program caja received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
> lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
> minor_code 0)

If I new what connection is refused...  The closest thing I find is 
https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=55441 , but this looks strange.
Will look if we can reproduce this locally.
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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Adam Števko]

Hi,

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK)  
> wrote:
> 
> On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
>> 
 We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
 snapshot
 (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
 are enough.
 We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
 (in 2017).
 
 Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
 needs,
 then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).
>>> 
>>> Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
>>> in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
>>> mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...
>> 
>> Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if there are 
>> any
>> messages in ~/.xsession-errors?
> 
> ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not 
> starting
> correctly; if jack has an empty password, the sshd configuration
> denies logins with empty passords. But I can get a terminal after
> the Caja processes seemingly all died, the desktop still black,
> no border decoration, the terminal constantly moving to the lower
> right...after patient double typing  get these .xsession-errors:
> ---
> mate-settings-daemon MateDesktop-Warning: Call to screen_info_new
> is too frequent, skipping...
> caps.c Normally all extra capabilities would be dropped down, but
> that's impossible because PulseAudio was built without capabilities
> support.
> /usr/bin/dispswitch exiting: too few crtcs: 1
> pygobject_register_sinkfunc is  deprecated (GtkWindow,GtkInvisible,Gtkobject)
> mate-panel: couldn't get background pixmap
> Connection failure: Connection refused
> Initializing gksu extension
> The program caja received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
> lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
> minor_code 0)
> ---
> This goes on for a while, then the caja clients are killed:
> --
> Maximum number of clients reached
> caja: MateDesktop-Warning: Unable to open display :0 when setting
> background pixmap
> caja: Gdk-critical: IA__gdk_cairo_create asserttion 'GDK_IS_DRAWABLE
> (drawable) failed.
> recvmsg: Connection refused
> 
> a couple of those messages, then
> -
> process 3535 (one PID beyond the caja PID): arguments to dbus_message_unref()
> were incorrect, assertion "!message->in_cache" failed in file
> /jenkins/jobs/oi_userland/workspace/components/library/dbus/dbus-1.10.8/dbus/dbus-message.c
>  line 1719.
> This is normally a bug in some application using the D_Bus Llibrary.
> D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace.
> -
> and more of the caja background pixmap and cairo IA__... messages.
> Then a heap of Xlib messages related to the caja breakdown:
> ---
> Bug in window manager: Unexpected X error: BadLength (poly request too
> large or internal Xlib
> lenght error (Details: serial 815 error_code 16 request_code 72
> minor_code 0)
> --
> the same messages repeating endlessly with other serials like
> 832 and 835. The terminal flickers endlessly while bumping into
> the lower right corner like a dumb zombie and is nearly unusable.
> 
> Hope that helps.

I will see if I can reproduce this. Just to clarify: are you running this on 
illumos qemu-kvm?

Cheers,
Adam



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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 16/08/2016 17:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:



We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
(in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...


Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if there are any
messages in ~/.xsession-errors?


ssh connection refused (sshd is running) - either misconfigured or not starting
correctly; if jack has an empty password, the sshd configuration
denies logins with empty passords. But I can get a terminal after
the Caja processes seemingly all died, the desktop still black,
no border decoration, the terminal constantly moving to the lower
right...after patient double typing  get these .xsession-errors:
---
mate-settings-daemon MateDesktop-Warning: Call to screen_info_new
is too frequent, skipping...
caps.c Normally all extra capabilities would be dropped down, but
that's impossible because PulseAudio was built without capabilities
support.
/usr/bin/dispswitch exiting: too few crtcs: 1
pygobject_register_sinkfunc is  deprecated (GtkWindow,GtkInvisible,Gtkobject)
mate-panel: couldn't get background pixmap
Connection failure: Connection refused
Initializing gksu extension
The program caja received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib
lenght error (Details: serial 262 error_code 16 request_code 72
minor_code 0)
---
This goes on for a while, then the caja clients are killed:
--
Maximum number of clients reached
caja: MateDesktop-Warning: Unable to open display :0 when setting
background pixmap
caja: Gdk-critical: IA__gdk_cairo_create asserttion 'GDK_IS_DRAWABLE
(drawable) failed.
recvmsg: Connection refused

a couple of those messages, then
-
process 3535 (one PID beyond the caja PID): arguments to dbus_message_unref()
were incorrect, assertion "!message->in_cache" failed in file
/jenkins/jobs/oi_userland/workspace/components/library/dbus/dbus-1.10.8/dbus/dbus-message.c 
line 1719.

This is normally a bug in some application using the D_Bus Llibrary.
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace.
-
and more of the caja background pixmap and cairo IA__... messages.
Then a heap of Xlib messages related to the caja breakdown:
---
Bug in window manager: Unexpected X error: BadLength (poly request too
large or internal Xlib
lenght error (Details: serial 815 error_code 16 request_code 72
minor_code 0)
--
the same messages repeating endlessly with other serials like
832 and 835. The terminal flickers endlessly while bumping into
the lower right corner like a dumb zombie and is nearly unusable.

Hope that helps.
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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

On 08/16/16 06:22 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote:

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:



We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next
snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one
are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot
(in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it
needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...


Can you start with ssh enabled, login as jack remotely and see if there 
are any messages in ~/.xsession-errors?

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Re: [oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 16/08/2016 17:10, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

Hello, people.

I wanted to announce availability of Mate some time ago, but there were some
issues, especially when I tried to build Mate Live CD. Good news is that now
most irritating issues (or at least those which I found) are fixed.
...
Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal (we
tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it doesn't
deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these are test images
and not official snapshots.

We would be glad for you to test them.

We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next snapshot
(supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and Gnome one are enough.
We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image after next snapshot (in 2017).

Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it needs,
then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).


Good work ! But under qemu-kvm, the MATE iso fails by starting Caja
in an endless loop (visible in the lower panel), so the desktop remains
mostly black, and Mate does not stop starting...
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[oi-dev] Mate is here (as well as new test ISOs)

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Hello, people.

I wanted to announce availability of Mate some time ago, but there were 
some issues, especially when I tried to build Mate Live CD. Good news is 
that now most irritating issues (or at least those which I found) are 
fixed.


So, let me introduce Mate 1.14. To facilitate installing, I've created 
pkg:/mate_install, which should be shortly available. Unfortunately, 
when you have both Gnome 2 and Mate installed, both of them try to use 
the same applications, so you'll have interesting time removing Gnome 2 
applications from Mate and vice versa.


Currently Mate packages are

desktop/pdf-viewer/atril
desktop/mate/caja
desktop/archive-manager/engrampa
desktop/mate/marco
desktop/mate/mate-applets
desktop/mate/mate-dictionary
desktop/mate/mate-disk-usage-analyzer
desktop/mate/mate-screenshot
desktop/mate/mate-search-tool
desktop/mate/mate-system-log
desktop/mate/caja/caja-extensions
desktop/mate/mate-backgrounds
desktop/mate/mate-calc
desktop/mate/control-center
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme-faenza
desktop/mate/mate-icon-theme
desktop/mate/mate-media
desktop/mate/mate-notification-daemon
desktop/mate/mate-panel
desktop/mate/mate-session-manager
desktop/mate/mate-settings-daemon
terminal/mate-terminal
desktop/mate/mate-themes
desktop/mate/mate-user-guide
desktop/system-monitor/mate-system-monitor
desktop/xdg/menu-editor/mozo
editor/pluma
image/viewer/eom
library/desktop/mate/mate-desktop
# Not strictly mate, but gdm brings in too much gnome2
system/display-manager/lightdm
system/display-manager/lightdm/gtk-greeter

Known MATE issues:
- power management is based on upower (hal support removed), so it 
doesn't work (affects mate-applets(batstat), mate power manager)
- nautilus zfs integration uses illumos private interfaces and wasn't 
ported to caja
- compiz integration to GNOME control center uses gconf settings. To 
work with mate code should be migrated to gsettings

- GUI interface to reboot to specific BE is not preserved

As for LightDM, it worked for me, but there was one issue, which I 
didn't manage to catch:
- On some conditions when ligthdm is disabled, it fails to switch active 
VT back to /dev/vt/0. If you can reproduce it or have some ideas why it 
happens (and lightdm does it in sigterm handler), I'll be glad to hear.


Now, about ISOs:
They are available at http://dlc-int.openindiana.org/hipster/20160816/ , 
sha256 checksums are in 
http://dlc-int.openindiana.org/hipster/20160816/sha256sums.txt .


Two new image types: OI_MATE - this is Mate-based LiveDVD and OI_minimal 
(we tried to strip down OI a bit). One thing about minimal image - it 
doesn't deliver sudo, so initial user just gets root role. Note, these 
are test images and not official snapshots.


We would be glad for you to test them.

We'd like to hear your opinion, which images are necessary for next 
snapshot (supposedly, 2016.10). We think that minimal one, Mate and 
Gnome one are enough. We are going to avoid delivering Gnome ISO image 
after next snapshot (in 2017).


Also we are interested to hear if community needs VM images, and if it 
needs, then what exactly (qcow2, vmdk or something else).

--
Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department

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