Re: [oi-dev] (Laptop) Keyboard locking up when in kmdb panic handler

2012-10-08 Thread Jim Klimov

2012-10-07 4:35, Richard Lowe пишет:

Sorry for being unclear.  I was not suggesting you switch to a
USB keyboard.  I was asking if you were using one already.


There are two reasons this tends to happen:

1) You have a USB keyboard, that we can't actually use from kmdb at all
2) You've crashed at a point where the state of the world is such that
we can't use the keyboard _right now_

If it's failing sporadically, I'd be assuming #2 though #1 is far from
impossible even then.

Are you crashing too early to get a crash dump?  It's nearly always
preferable to get a dump (if you can), than to debug the system
in-situ.


Well, I am not sure how the laptop is wired - I can't exclude
that its kbd/touchpad are (or aren't) USB devices.

As for the use-case - I'm trying to switch the rpool between
SATA/LegacyIDE modes in BIOS, and track the boot progress via
kmdb (until the panic occurs due to inability to import rpool
from the expected device listed in the found ZFS label).
Much more often than not, I have to poweroff-poweron the laptop
instead of soft-rebooting it by continuing.

I had this also happen when importing the physical partition
as a VirtualBox machine from another OS (this laptop has a
choice among quad-boot now), and attaching the resulting disk
to a virtual SATA HBA - this also panicked, virtual kbd also
failed to type :c, but rebooting a VM is much more swift ;)

Thanks,
//Jim


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Re: [oi-dev] (Laptop) Keyboard locking up when in kmdb panic handler

2012-10-06 Thread Jim Klimov

2012-10-05 18:34, Gordon Ross пишет:

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:

...

to continue (:c) to reboot the system.
Unfortunately, something like 19 times out of 20 the keyboard is
locked up, so it ignores my attempts to continue, ctrl+alt+del

...

Ideas welcome,
//Jim Klimov


USB keyboard?



I guess I'll go find one to test. Should it be plugged before the
panic and kmdb prompt or can be added after?

Still, I thought the USB stack is another dimension of complexity
and that would be less likely to work than the built-in kbd (the
only one I used so far). I don't think the laptop has the option
to legacy-emulate the HID devices (as happens on desktops with
USB kbd/mice), but I'll look into it too.

//Jim

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Re: [oi-dev] (Laptop) Keyboard locking up when in kmdb panic handler

2012-10-06 Thread Gordon Ross
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
 2012-10-05 18:34, Gordon Ross пишет:

 On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:

 ...

 to continue (:c) to reboot the system.
 Unfortunately, something like 19 times out of 20 the keyboard is
 locked up, so it ignores my attempts to continue, ctrl+alt+del

 ...

 Ideas welcome,
 //Jim Klimov


 USB keyboard?



 I guess I'll go find one to test. Should it be plugged before the
 panic and kmdb prompt or can be added after?

 Still, I thought the USB stack is another dimension of complexity
 and that would be less likely to work than the built-in kbd (the
 only one I used so far). I don't think the laptop has the option
 to legacy-emulate the HID devices (as happens on desktops with
 USB kbd/mice), but I'll look into it too.

 //Jim


Sorry for being unclear.  I was not suggesting you switch to a
USB keyboard.  I was asking if you were using one already.


-- 
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Nexenta Systems, Inc.  www.nexenta.com
Enterprise class storage for everyone

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Re: [oi-dev] (Laptop) Keyboard locking up when in kmdb panic handler

2012-10-06 Thread Richard Lowe
 Sorry for being unclear.  I was not suggesting you switch to a
 USB keyboard.  I was asking if you were using one already.

There are two reasons this tends to happen:

1) You have a USB keyboard, that we can't actually use from kmdb at all
2) You've crashed at a point where the state of the world is such that
we can't use the keyboard _right now_

If it's failing sporadically, I'd be assuming #2 though #1 is far from
impossible even then.

Are you crashing too early to get a crash dump?  It's nearly always
preferable to get a dump (if you can), than to debug the system
in-situ.

-- Rich

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Re: [oi-dev] (Laptop) Keyboard locking up when in kmdb panic handler

2012-10-05 Thread Gordon Ross
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote:
 While tracing my laptop's bootup, I pass the -k option to the
 kernel boot line in GRUB. Whenever a panic happens, instead of
 rebooting instantly the laptop does display a list of loaded
 modules, stacktrace, etc. and a kmdb prompt with an invitation
 to continue (:c) to reboot the system.

 Unfortunately, something like 19 times out of 20 the keyboard is
 locked up, so it ignores my attempts to continue, ctrl+alt+del
 or otherwise reboot the system. This being a laptop and lacking
 a reset button, I can only hold the power button to turn it off
 and then back on, which is inconvenient and induces unneeded wear
 on the mechanics (hdd, fans, etc.)

 I've seen discussions of similar problems a while ago, and hoped
 they were sorted out by now. Well, as of oi_151a5 they are still
 here :(

 Ideas welcome,
 //Jim Klimov

USB keyboard?

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[oi-dev] (Laptop) Keyboard locking up when in kmdb panic handler

2012-10-04 Thread Jim Klimov

While tracing my laptop's bootup, I pass the -k option to the
kernel boot line in GRUB. Whenever a panic happens, instead of
rebooting instantly the laptop does display a list of loaded
modules, stacktrace, etc. and a kmdb prompt with an invitation
to continue (:c) to reboot the system.

Unfortunately, something like 19 times out of 20 the keyboard is
locked up, so it ignores my attempts to continue, ctrl+alt+del
or otherwise reboot the system. This being a laptop and lacking
a reset button, I can only hold the power button to turn it off
and then back on, which is inconvenient and induces unneeded wear
on the mechanics (hdd, fans, etc.)

I've seen discussions of similar problems a while ago, and hoped
they were sorted out by now. Well, as of oi_151a5 they are still
here :(

Ideas welcome,
//Jim Klimov

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