Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-17 Thread Christopher Chan

But 3.6.x currently has winbind issues.

On Sunday, April 15, 2012 08:54 PM, Bayard Bell wrote:

A version of 3.6.4 is pending for the illumos-userland head.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Martin Walterm...@uni-freiburg.de  wrote:

Hi,

yesterday I updated to oi_151a3 and saw:

# pkg list | grep samba
library/samba/libsmbclient3.5.5-0.151.1.3   
 i--
service/network/samba 3.5.5-0.151.1.3   
 i--

Is there any newer version without the security bug from

https://www.samba.org/samba/security/CVE-2012-1182

?

Best regards,
Martin

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-17 Thread Christopher Chan
I can confirm that 3.5.14 builds with sun cc and runs fine without the 
winbind issues found in 3.5.5-7



On Monday, April 16, 2012 06:20 AM, Gordon Ross wrote:

Bayard has 3.5.14 building in userland, I think (the latest in the
samba 3.5 branch).
That would be a reasonable choice for the stable branch, because changes
along the samba 3.5.x branch are generally just maintenance changes.
(Like CVE-2012-1182, which bumped 3.5.13 to 3.5.14)

Gordon

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Alasdair Lumsdenalasdai...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Martin,

We've obtained the Debian security patches for 3.5.6 which should hopefully 
apply fairly cleanly against our 3.5.5:

http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/samba

We're looking into things.

Cheers,

Alasdair
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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-17 Thread Martin Walter
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 09:20:52PM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
 I can confirm that 3.5.14 builds with sun cc and runs fine without

3.5.14 as immediate measure would be fine!
and sometimes later 3.6.4 .

martin

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-17 Thread Christopher Chan

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 09:44 PM, Martin Walter wrote:

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 09:20:52PM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:

I can confirm that 3.5.14 builds with sun cc and runs fine without


3.5.14 as immediate measure would be fine!
and sometimes later 3.6.4 .


I'm not touching 3.6.4 with a ten foot pole until the samba chums sort 
out their issues with winbind on 3.6.x.


I'm not desperate for SMB2 support.

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Bayard Bell
A version of 3.6.4 is pending for the illumos-userland head.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Martin Walter m...@uni-freiburg.de wrote:
 Hi,

 yesterday I updated to oi_151a3 and saw:

    # pkg list | grep samba
    library/samba/libsmbclient                        3.5.5-0.151.1.3          
   i--
    service/network/samba                             3.5.5-0.151.1.3          
   i--

 Is there any newer version without the security bug from

    https://www.samba.org/samba/security/CVE-2012-1182

 ?

 Best regards,
 Martin

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 15 Apr 2012, at 13:54, Bayard Bell wrote:

 A version of 3.6.4 is pending for the illumos-userland head.

Hi Walter,

Unfortunately however the new version probably won't make the stable branch. 
The stuff in illumos-userland will be destined for /experimental followed by 
/dev.

Cheers,

Alasdair
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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Gary Driggs
On Apr 15, 2012, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:

 Unfortunately however the new version probably won't make the stable branch. 
 The stuff in illumos-userland will be destined for /experimental followed by 
 /dev.

You may wish to reconsider...

A remote, pre-authentication vulnerability is essentially the most
severe kind of flaw that can crop up in a software package such as
Samba. An attacker who found a vulnerable installation of Samba would
not need to authenticate in order to launch an exploit.

http://m.threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/remote-pre-authentication-flaw-fixed-samba-041112

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Martin Walter
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 02:18:11PM +0100, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
 On 15 Apr 2012, at 13:54, Bayard Bell wrote:
 
  A version of 3.6.4 is pending for the illumos-userland head.
 

Hi Alasdair,

 Unfortunately however the new version probably won't make the stable branch. 
 The stuff in illumos-userland will be destined for /experimental followed by 
 /dev.

pkg.openindiana.org/experimental is last updated at 2011-11-19 !?

I think such critical security holes should be fixed asap. Otherwise
it is really a risk to run Openindiana on big fileservers.
 
Best regards,
Martin

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Gary Driggs
On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Martin Walter wrote:

 I think such critical security holes should be fixed asap. Otherwise it is 
 really a risk to run Openindiana on big fileservers.

That service should never be exposed to the Internet in the first
place. But otherwise I'd agree it ought to be considered for inclusion
since the Samba team has decided it important enough that they're also
patching some end of lifed versions as well.

-Gary

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Martin Walter
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 08:57:56AM -0700, Gary Driggs wrote:
 On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Martin Walter wrote:
 
  I think such critical security holes should be fixed asap. Otherwise it is 
  really a risk to run Openindiana on big fileservers.
 
 That service should never be exposed to the Internet in the first
 place. 

Yes, of course.
But 25000 internal users (students) are enough for me to feel uncomfortable 
with this bug! ;-)

Martin

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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi Martin,

On 15 Apr 2012, at 15:10, Martin Walter wrote:
snip
 Unfortunately however the new version probably won't make the stable branch. 
 The stuff in illumos-userland will be destined for /experimental followed by 
 /dev.
 
 pkg.openindiana.org/experimental is last updated at 2011-11-19 !?
 
 I think such critical security holes should be fixed asap. Otherwise
 it is really a risk to run Openindiana on big fileservers.

The binary repo was last updated quite a while ago, but work continues on the 
source side at:

https://hg.openindiana.org/illumos-userland/
and
https://hg.openindiana.org/upstream/oracle/userland-gate

The challenge is manpower - 151a was built using a collection of highly 
unpalatable build systems that few of our developers want to work on. The 
reason for the delay between oi_151 and our next big release (not the stable) 
is that we're completely re-tooling around a single build system. Once done, 
we'll be able to churn out updates far more easily.

However the retooling effort has been derailed and held up by the fact it 
started life as oi-build and became a collaborative effort with Nexenta called 
illumos-userland, which they are going to also use for Illumian. A lot of 
resources have had to be diverted to sorting out collaborating with them and 
dealing with the consequences of this. We're nearly there and hopefully things 
will speed up again once we get into the swing of things.

If you'd like things to proceed faster, I'd like to point out that the devs 
working on OI are contributing their free time to do this. If you value OI then 
you're welcome to assist us and help get things updated faster.

The stable release is about backporting critical security fixes, and this one 
sounds like the kind of thing we should look at backporting. So we will look 
into it and see what can be done. But it probably won't involve a version bump, 
more a patch to the older version.

Cheers,

Alasdair





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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 15 Apr 2012, at 18:59, Martin Walter wrote:

 Would it be not easier and better to just make the newest version available?
 E.g. I would much more prefer just a samba-3.6.4 package than an updated 
 samba-3.5.5.

Yes, if we were on the new build system. So updating samba for /experimental 
wouldn't be too hard.

But samba for oi_151a is stuck in an old build system, so updating it would 
require more effort than anyone we have is willing to take on. And as Rich 
pointed out, isn't really what the stable branch is about.

If you have time you could have a look to see if there is a patch that applies 
against samba-3.5.5 that fixes the CVE. The usual place to look is other 
distro's patch sets against samba where their version is close to ours. *That* 
would be genuinely helpful and more use to us than building stuff :-)

Cheers,

Alasdair


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Re: [oi-dev] samba security

2012-04-15 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi Martin,

We've obtained the Debian security patches for 3.5.6 which should hopefully 
apply fairly cleanly against our 3.5.5:

http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/samba

We're looking into things.

Cheers,

Alasdair
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