[old-chevy-truck] cool Luke woody
I saw the final sequence of the 1967 Paul Newman movie and after he is shot he's loaded into the back door of the prison warden's vehicle I want one too. The red Chevy has the hood, emblem, grill, front fenders and headlites of the 48-54 trucks, but looks like a 4 door station wagon, not a Suburban? Is this the infamous Sedan Delivery?. What's the chance of finding one or is this a one of a kind Hollywood creation with gleaming polished wood sides? "I think what we have here is a failure to communicate". Larry Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket
It surely doesn't ! . You should make up some silk screen shirts with that picture... -Nate Tom wrote: > > Thanks, Nate and John. Just wanted a picture that didn't look like all the other ones I have of my truck. > Tom Caperton > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - Original Message - > From: vwnate1 > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:49 AM > Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket > > > > That's neat . > > I am always amazed at the interesting things people do with Photoshop. > > -Nate > Tom wrote: > > > > the new photo is there if anyone wants to see it. The link > is .. > > http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy- > truck/photos/view/e2fc?b=3 > > > > It's a pic I put together in Photoshop Elements, just to have a photo > of my truck that looks "different." > > Tom Caperton > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > tcaperton@ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 Power steering Pump
Janice ! 1/2" is _WAAAYYY_ too much toe in ! unsafe in fact as it'll make the truck ' twitchy ' @ speed . 1/16" to 1/8" MAX and I like the 1/16" better . Spend your time getting all the play out of the front end then grease the Bejeebers out of it (heat recalcitrant Zerk fittings) untill there's _no_ resistance when you turn the wheels with the tires off the ground - takes some time but is well worth the effort . If you disconnect the drag link , you can use a fishing scale to set the steering box's worm gear bearing pre-load to about 10 INCH pounds pull... I am certain you know by now that the steering box ONLY uses OIL and never , _EVER_ grease although it might have a big Zerk fitting in the filler plug ~ if you've allready added grease , not to worry ~ remove the filler plug and insert a funnel , pour in gear oil or if it leaks really badly , STP typ gooey " Motor Honey " oil . Caster shims are little wedge shaped things that fit between the front axle and the springs , they go in from _behind_ and you may be missing them as many fall out & get lost by careless mechanics in years gone by ~ easy to install and make a _BIG_ differance in return to center when you're driving ~ when you come barreling 'round a 90° street corner @ 35 MPH , you should be able to let go the steering wheel as you begin to accellerate out of the corner and the sterring wheel should become a blur as it rapidly unwinds back to center ~ if it doesn't , or if you have to manually unwind it after a turning manoever , your front end isn't right yet . Keep up the good work ! . -Nate Janice wrote: > > Nate, > > I was beginning to wonder if there might be something wrong with my truck. I just found out that if I put on radial tires, and I did, P235 75R15's, then the tech fellow at Jim Carter's said then the toe in has to be adjusted to 1/8" instead of around 1/2". He also said I should make sure I have the proper shims on the front end to allow the proper caster. Finally an old mechanic guy I just met told me that I might have to "tip the axle a bit with shims". I am not sure what that means, maybe the same shims as for the caster. > > I think I will check up on my front end first. Power steering is just too, how do YOU say, $pendy!! > > Janice Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Tired arms when parking
Real D rater )or better) TRUCK tires will require 50 PSI or so and will reduce steering effort greatly... I'm using Dayton LT D rated truck radials and I love'em ~ no appreciable wear in over 40,000 miles of commercial service yet . About $125.00 / Ea. in most tires shops . -Nate Janice wrote: > > Bill, > > Your post made me laugh - "I don't really favour any of these". Thanks. > > Janice > > Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tired arms when parking: One solution is to put more air in your front > tires. Second would be to use narrow tires ...in cross-section. Third > would be to use old bias-ply tires rather than radial tires. I don't > really favor any of these. ...bill > > --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Janice Bell > wrote: > > > > Allen, > > > > No, an entire reporoduction front end is not available at JC yet. I > have decided to NOT put power steering in my truck, because I do not > want to hot rod it. My arms just get tired steering, especiallly > parallel parking, but I don't want to redo the entire front end either. > Thanks for letting me know the Pacer doesn't drop the front end. I > might look around for one, just in case and then, who knows. Thanks for > your input Allen. > > > > Janice > > > > > > > - > All new Yahoo! Mail - > - > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket
Hi Tom, Charlie here in AZ. What caption on the yahoo group site is yours? I can't seem to figure out which photo is yours. Thanks. --- vwnate1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It surely doesn't ! . > > You should make up some silk screen shirts with that > picture... > > -Nate > Tom wrote: > > > > Thanks, Nate and John. Just wanted a picture that > didn't look like > all the other ones I have of my truck. > > Tom Caperton > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: vwnate1 > > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:49 AM > > Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket > > > > > > > > That's neat . > > > > I am always amazed at the interesting things > people do with > Photoshop. > > > > -Nate > > Tom wrote: > > > > > > the new photo is there if anyone wants to see > it. The link > > is .. > > > > http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy- > > truck/photos/view/e2fc?b=3 > > > > > > It's a pic I put together in Photoshop > Elements, just to have a > photo > > of my truck that looks "different." > > > Tom Caperton > > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > > tcaperton@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! > > To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no > body, just the email), to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: cool Luke woody
I don't remember the vehicle although I am a Paul Newman fan. Did it look like this? Did is have the wood or was it all metal? http://www.97330.com/1949Chevy.html = --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, "winchester54947" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw the final sequence of the 1967 Paul Newman movie and after he is > shot he's loaded into the back door of the prison warden's vehicle I > want one too. The red Chevy has the hood, emblem, grill, front fenders > and headlites of the 48-54 trucks, but looks like a 4 door station > wagon, not a Suburban? Is this the infamous Sedan Delivery?. What's the > chance of finding one or is this a one of a kind Hollywood creation > with gleaming polished wood sides? "I think what we have here is a > failure to communicate". Larry Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] cool Luke woody
COOL HAND LUKE. Hugely influential film for guys my age. On Apr 11, 2007, at 12:00 AM, winchester54947 wrote: I saw the final sequence of the 1967 Paul Newman movie and after he is shot he's loaded into the back door of the prison warden's vehicle I want one too. The red Chevy has the hood, emblem, grill, front fenders and headlites of the 48-54 trucks, but looks like a 4 door station wagon, not a Suburban? Is this the infamous Sedan Delivery?. What's the chance of finding one or is this a one of a kind Hollywood creation with gleaming polished wood sides? "I think what we have here is a failure to communicate". Larry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 Power steering Pump
YES! 1/2" is way too much. The stock specs call for 1/16" to 3/16" of toe in for 1/2 and 3/4 ton models (early 50s). I have tall, skinny radials on stock 16" wheels and I set the toe at 1/16". Drives like a dream up to 80 mph. Allen '50 3100 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vwnate1 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:57 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: 235 Power steering Pump Janice ! 1/2" is _WAAAYYY_ too much toe in ! unsafe in fact as it'll make the truck ' twitchy ' @ speed . 1/16" to 1/8" MAX and I like the 1/16" better . Spend your time getting all the play out of the front end then grease the Bejeebers out of it (heat recalcitrant Zerk fittings) untill there's _no_ resistance when you turn the wheels with the tires off the ground - takes some time but is well worth the effort . If you disconnect the drag link , you can use a fishing scale to set the steering box's worm gear bearing pre-load to about 10 INCH pounds pull... I am certain you know by now that the steering box ONLY uses OIL and never , _EVER_ grease although it might have a big Zerk fitting in the filler plug ~ if you've allready added grease , not to worry ~ remove the filler plug and insert a funnel , pour in gear oil or if it leaks really badly , STP typ gooey " Motor Honey " oil . Caster shims are little wedge shaped things that fit between the front axle and the springs , they go in from _behind_ and you may be missing them as many fall out & get lost by careless mechanics in years gone by ~ easy to install and make a _BIG_ differance in return to center when you're driving ~ when you come barreling 'round a 90° street corner @ 35 MPH , you should be able to let go the steering wheel as you begin to accellerate out of the corner and the sterring wheel should become a blur as it rapidly unwinds back to center ~ if it doesn't , or if you have to manually unwind it after a turning manoever , your front end isn't right yet . Keep up the good work ! . -Nate Janice wrote: > > Nate, > > I was beginning to wonder if there might be something wrong with my truck. I just found out that if I put on radial tires, and I did, P235 75R15's, then the tech fellow at Jim Carter's said then the toe in has to be adjusted to 1/8" instead of around 1/2". He also said I should make sure I have the proper shims on the front end to allow the proper caster. Finally an old mechanic guy I just met told me that I might have to "tip the axle a bit with shims". I am not sure what that means, maybe the same shims as for the caster. > > I think I will check up on my front end first. Power steering is just too, how do YOU say, $pendy!! > > Janice Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket
Howdy, Charlie. The pics of my truck are under "Tom C's '478-2nd"...on the last page of the photos. Let me know if you have trouble finding it. Tom Caperton '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: charles olson To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket Hi Tom, Charlie here in AZ. What caption on the yahoo group site is yours? I can't seem to figure out which photo is yours. Thanks. --- vwnate1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It surely doesn't ! . > > You should make up some silk screen shirts with that > picture... > > -Nate > Tom wrote: > > > > Thanks, Nate and John. Just wanted a picture that > didn't look like > all the other ones I have of my truck. > > Tom Caperton > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: vwnate1 > > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:49 AM > > Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket > > > > > > > > That's neat . > > > > I am always amazed at the interesting things > people do with > Photoshop. > > > > -Nate > > Tom wrote: > > > > > > the new photo is there if anyone wants to see > it. The link > > is .. > > > > http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy- > > truck/photos/view/e2fc?b=3 > > > > > > It's a pic I put together in Photoshop > Elements, just to have a > photo > > of my truck that looks "different." > > > Tom Caperton > > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > > tcaperton@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! > > To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no > body, just the email), to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket
Great idea, Nate! I hadn't even thought about that. There's a site on the 'Net that lets you make your own T-shirts (http://www.zazzle.com/custom/tshirts/mens). Might be worth a try. Cost is pretty reasonable. Tom Caperton '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: vwnate1 To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket It surely doesn't ! . You should make up some silk screen shirts with that picture... -Nate Tom wrote: > > Thanks, Nate and John. Just wanted a picture that didn't look like all the other ones I have of my truck. > Tom Caperton > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - Original Message - > From: vwnate1 > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:49 AM > Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket > > > > That's neat . > > I am always amazed at the interesting things people do with Photoshop. > > -Nate > Tom wrote: > > > > the new photo is there if anyone wants to see it. The link > is .. > > http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy- > truck/photos/view/e2fc?b=3 > > > > It's a pic I put together in Photoshop Elements, just to have a photo > of my truck that looks "different." > > Tom Caperton > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > tcaperton@ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket
Tom, I really liked the snow and fire circle views. My 3100 is red, not as pretty, but I would love a Tee shirt of your photo, too, just like the Natester, Best regards, Charlie Olson in AZ --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great idea, Nate! I hadn't even thought about that. > There's a site on the 'Net that lets you make your > own T-shirts > (http://www.zazzle.com/custom/tshirts/mens). Might > be worth a try. Cost is pretty reasonable. > Tom Caperton > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: vwnate1 > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:47 AM > Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket > > > > It surely doesn't ! . > > You should make up some silk screen shirts with > that picture... > > -Nate > Tom wrote: > > > > Thanks, Nate and John. Just wanted a picture > that didn't look like > all the other ones I have of my truck. > > Tom Caperton > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: vwnate1 > > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:49 AM > > Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tom's Red Rocket > > > > > > > > That's neat . > > > > I am always amazed at the interesting things > people do with > Photoshop. > > > > -Nate > > Tom wrote: > > > > > > the new photo is there if anyone wants to see > it. The link > > is .. > > > > http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy- > > truck/photos/view/e2fc?b=3 > > > > > > It's a pic I put together in Photoshop > Elements, just to have a > photo > > of my truck that looks "different." > > > Tom Caperton > > > '47-2nd Series ... in Whiteville, NC > > > tcaperton@ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! > > To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no > body, just the email), to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
